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KPDX wrote:Hello all.
This is particularly for my fellow Nikon photogs. I'm noticing when I drop my shutter speed to pan or get good prop blur, I'm having an issue where the camera seems to alternate between blurring the nose and the tail.
Here's an example, granted it's not the best quality but this is purely for illustrative purposes. This is a P-3 I shot at 1/125 F/10 ISO 31 tonight in continuous mode. These are two consecutive frames. Equipment was D850 with the 70-200 f/2.8.
My current settings are AF-C with 153 focus points selected and if it helps, I had Sport mode (Vibration Reduction) ON.
Any suggestions or ideas what's going on? I feel my panning technique is fairly sound and I also have confirmed with other fellow Nikon photogs on this website that they too have encountered the exact same issue.
Thanks in advance,
ftorre82 wrote:For example, if an aircraft is rotating on the runway, you will see two movements: one is the aircraft rolling on the runway, and the other one is the aircraft nose lifting off the pavement, so those different motion are very difficult to "copy" with the camera.
JakTrax wrote:ftorre82 wrote:For example, if an aircraft is rotating on the runway, you will see two movements: one is the aircraft rolling on the runway, and the other one is the aircraft nose lifting off the pavement, so those different motion are very difficult to "copy" with the camera.
Precisely. Too many photographers get caught in the trap of believing IS will come to the rescue in all circumstances, however IS is most effective when nothing in the frame is moving. Similarly, when you're panning an aircraft with all wheels on the deck you're still getting different parts of the aircraft moving through different planes, although the effect is lessened the further away with aircraft is. IS won't really help.
If you've ever watched a 757 or 767 start its take-off roll you'll see that the horizontal stabs vibrate like mad! This is the case with all aircraft of course but it's particularly noticeable with these two types. No amount of IS is going to help and you'll always get some degree of micro-blur.
JakTrax wrote:Just to add that having IS/VR (or whatever you wanna call it) turned on for panning is better than having it turned off. But it is not the magical tool some think it is. It is subject to physics, like everything else. I used to relieve the boredom between movements at my local by doing panning shots, but I eventually gave up as, although I was getting generally sharp results, there'd always be a slightly blurry winglet or horizontal stab here and there. Even if you perfect your technique there are some elements outside your control.
Not saying no one should ever try panning shots — I've seen some lovely examples — I'm just saying that you shouldn't expect the same results as a side-on taken at f/9 at 1/640th. Since I'm a terrible pixel-peeper slow-shutter panning just wasn't for me.
JakTrax wrote:Indeed, but I was shooting 320s at 50-60mm and it just wasn't happening as the winglet would be moving relative to me much faster than the rest of the aircraft (or the tailplane would be blurry due to the vibration). Not a lot I could do, irrespective of whether my technique was any good or not. 200-300mm and I'd have more success but I found myself having to take 10-15 shots to get one or two sharp ones... and at times they'd all be crap! Too much of a drain on my camera's shutter and I'm not really a distance shooter.
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