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sleekjet
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Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:20 am

I' ve noticed that the most recent photos of SXM are from last October. Given the incredible runway/beach dynamics, why isn't there a steady stream of spectacular shots from this venue? The ones on file are spectacular and famous - seems like a photographer would wanna hang around there for the great potential shot and perhaps, the time when an AF 747 finally clips the fence.
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Staffan
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:39 am

From what I've heard, it is very expensive to go there.

 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:45 am

"...AF 747 finally clips the fence."

If that would have happened when I was there I would have lost my head!!!
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 3:00 am

Yes, its very expensive from what I have heard. Also I would guess the frequency of flights isnt to good.

LGW
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 3:12 am

St. Maarten is extremely expensive. My wife and I spent 2 weeks there on our honeymoon and it was a FORTUNE. The tickets, hotel, dining, entertainment, shopping, etc, etc...It all added up very quickly. But, if you are just there for a couple of days to shoot aircraft, it shouldn't be too outrageous, but still enough to put you in the poor house for a little while.  Smile


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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 3:23 am

Probably because of traffic. Yes, the shots are very very nice but the traffic is very very limited compared to a trip to FRA, ZRH, LAX, MIA, LON...ah, you get the point. You get "more aircraft for your money" at other airports.

Michael
 
sleekjet
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 4:00 am

Ah, but just think...the beach, the sand, the views (ahem)...you could tolerate the lack of steady airborne traffic.
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 4:13 am

It surley has to worth the fee for when the AF 747 clips the fence......... ahhhhhhhhhh i can see the words now ! "ACCEPTED WITHOUT WARNING"  Innocent



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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 4:37 am

I hope that if (not when) an AF 747 clips the fence, no-one is hurt or killed.
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 6:58 am

One of the reasons is that it's kinda expensive to get there. It mostly costs $700.00 to $800 dollars on any airline and you also have to put in hotel and other stuff in like what DSM8 said. I would do is save up your money cause it'll be a lot ok?
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 8:17 am

I wish I could go there someday! Maybe I will, but from ANC RT is $1300 way to much, I would rather go to LAX. Or, I could go to HNL 3 times from ANC!

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TimMSP
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 9:29 am

I recently got back from a week's vacation at St. Martin.

We found airfare for $500 from MSP to SXM on American and the extra leg room was nice.

Took most of the day to get there though because we had to stop at O'Hare and San Juan.

Food and drinks weren't that outrageous. In fact, the Sunset Beach Bar which is right on the beach by the runway was serving rum & cokes for $3 and Carib beer for $2. Hotels were a bit on the pricey side for what they were worth. We spent $185 a night and rented a car for 3 days at $30 a day.

I'm sure if you looked harder than we did you could find car and hotel cheaper.

All in all I was fairly unimpressed with SXM as there was only traffic that was other than what I would term as "dead slow" was between noon and 4:00 pm

Also, the variety of aircraft was very sparse as well. Mostly American, American Eagle, Continental and US Airways apart from the smaller carriers of Liat and WinAir.

The island itself was pretty interesting with a lot great beaches and several nearby islands for day trips. If you are traveling with your significant other be prepared for a jewelery purchase because the island is loaded with jewelery shops and once they find your not on a cruise ship they offer you 60-70% of the price which makes the price somewhat cheaper than buying in the US.

If you go, plan to spend only a couple hours of the day photographing and the rest enjoying the island.
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 10:23 am

Well, an aircraft did clip the fence, I can't remember the details (although I believe it was an Air France 747). I just hope my fathers flight on an Air France A340 on Saturday isn't the one!!! (this is a flight from French Guiana, that makes a stop at SXM, i'd just like to congratulate everyone at the ESA and Arianespace for the successful launch just minutes ago of the Envisat satellite on Ariane 5, which my Dad was a part of!!!).

Regards

Dan
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 10:34 am

According to some of the locals, an Air France 747 supposedly clipped the fence, sometime within the last 10 years or so the story goes, and drug about 700 ft of chain link all the way down the runway.

Haven't come across anything to either prove or disprove the story. Anyone have any info?

 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 10:45 am

that is just an old story, noting is stopping you from writing to the airport asking for confirmation is this happened, it will be kept on record.
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Dazed767
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 11:17 am

The air fare down there is really high (when I was looking from MCO, it was around $900!). Hotels $150 a night or so. God, I'd love to see that A340 landing there...

Justin
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 11:36 am

Justin,
get 3 or 4 other guys and you can reduce the cost of the hotel atleast- the airfare- youre gonna pay and pay dearly- thats the price of paradise

Joe
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 11:45 am

If you fly from Mexico City to St. Maarten. It´s around $600 usd. MEX-MIA-SXM. Go around trip, and you paid another $300 usd for 3 days. I´m planning to make a trip with some friends in my next summer vacations, hope I can do it by myself... (I still have to talk that with my Mom ha  Big thumbs up)

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Dazed767
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Fri Mar 01, 2002 12:45 pm

I think if too many of us photographers visited SXM, it would ruin the 'magic' of that place.
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Sun Mar 03, 2002 2:17 pm

Yes, Justin is absolutely right!
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RE: Why St. Maarten's?

Mon Mar 04, 2002 9:21 pm

Never been there but I must ask: After seeing the astonishing photos, and in some cases experiencing the place first hand, how many of you think the danger of landing there in a large (4-engine widebody) aircraft is significantly greater than at most other airports?
 
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RE: Why St. Maarten's?

Mon Mar 04, 2002 9:26 pm

Just a bit greater....since there is no ILS, it's up to the pilots not to put her on the beach  Big grin
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Tue Mar 05, 2002 6:10 am

Yes, after a quick run of the cost from BOS, it would cost me $600 on CO/NW. Oh well, might as well wait. And the lack of action, MHT drives me crazy being slow and they get twice the amount of action SXM gets...

Jeff
 
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RE: Why Not St. Maarten's?

Tue Mar 05, 2002 7:13 am

If this cold weather continues in London, and if the weather remains abismal in Houston as it has been for the last week, I may take a trip down to St Maartan for the day to watch some planes and take some pictures..

Look for my blurry, under-exposed pictures to arrive here soon... (post rejection that is...)

Jer

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