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Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 11:59 am
by joe pries
https://www.airliners.net/open.file/239080/L/

best photo on airliners.net in my opinion- simply outrageous

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 12:05 pm
by serge
Wow!  Wow! Thats one of the best photos I've seen on here as well!

Well done Josef!

...Serge

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 12:14 pm
by Dazed767
WHOA, how did I miss seeing that one. Awsome!

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 12:28 pm
by ExitRow
Is that condensation between the contrails?

Incredible photograph.


RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 2:07 pm
by Bruce
How can trails be THAT big??????

wow......

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 4:39 pm
by Guest

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Photo © Josef P. Willems




AWESOME

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 4:41 pm
by Sabena 690
Wow...  Wow!  Wow!

This is just a great picture!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Great work Josef!!

Rgds
Frederic

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 4:46 pm
by EGGD
Oh my goodness!!! That is awesome, and before anyone says, I don't think there is any chance that this is fake, those contrails are just too detailed to be faked. Awesome shot!

Shame its so big  Sad  Big grin

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 5:25 pm
by OH-LZA
Awesome pic!!!!!!

Bruce,
The plane is 1000ft below, one usually sees the contrails at around 30,000->40,000 above. And yes, 1000ft vertical separation is allowed in European and Northern Atlantic Airspace. They decided to implement this because the airspace has been so crowded and this doubled the capacity, as radars nowadays are good enough for 'seeing' planes 1000ft vertically apart it isn't a security risk either.

Alexander

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 5:34 pm
by EGFF
An amazing and truely outstanding photo, that's quality at it's best...
Well done Josef  Big thumbs up
EGFF

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 5:38 pm
by will
Josef,

Great photo, good work.

Will.......

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 6:22 pm
by Guest
Thats CRAZY! Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Those contrails look like they are wider then the plane itself!!!!

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 6:37 pm
by GOT
An absolutely wonderful picture. I just can't get enough of all these great contrail pics, keep 'em coming  Smile.

GOT

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 7:38 pm
by patroni
Oh well, the aircraft is blurry and the horizon is not level... Big grin
- Just kidding of course  Big grin

This photo is really one of the best I have seen here on airliners.net! Congratulations Josef and Thanks for sharing this picture!!!

Cheers,

Tom


RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 12:48 am
by Vulindlela
 Wow!

















-that space is me being speechless Big grin Two threads about this picture? It must be good. Don't get a big head Josef.

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 7:39 am
by atco
Hi Alexander,

Sorry to sound picky (I'm not honestly !!) but I do want to correct a bit of info.

There is no radar coverage over Atlantic airspace, the separation is the same as before totally procedural.........vertical, longitudinal, speed or latitude.

The intorduction of RVSM is based on improved altimitry and each airliner to gain RVSM status must meet strict altitude reporting criteria.
Not all aircraft are RVSM approved.
Of course RVSM has now been implemented over Europe in domestic as well as Oceanic airspace.

Cheers

Garry

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 8:01 am
by OH-LZA
Hi Garry,

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I was typing in a hurry so I forgot to mention Northern Atlantic procedures.

W in the part in the flightplan telling aircraft equipment stands for RVSM capable, doesn't it?

Alexander

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 8:18 am
by donder10
Garry,
I notice you work at West Drayton!Do you control the overflights over LHR(127.42 etc) from time to time?
Thanks,Alex

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 9:21 am
by H. Simpson
I'm sorry to say this but the pic looks like....fake

when you look at the light direction on the cloud below, the sunlight was coming from the upper right corner, when you look at the contrail, the sunlight came directly from the right.

2nd:

the contrail looks separated "from the background". the cloud below are hazy and brown colored, while on the contrail, you see a very bright white and the shadow on the left side contrail looks "detached" from the background.

what do u think

mike

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 9:22 am
by flpuck6
Normally, I am not a fan of science, but I'm curious to know the physics behind that. What causes such a huge contrail?

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 10:41 am
by Guest
Mike,

I seriously doubt that it's fake. I spent a lot of time with that one, and even sent it to another screener who was online at the same time, and we both agreed that it looked legit...a very lucky shot...

FLPuck,

I think it has to do with the inner two contrails combining together with the outer two.

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 1:25 pm
by BO__einG
marvelous shot.. I edited it and put it up as my wallpaper!

well done!!!

Oh and I finally have a total of 100000 views on all my pictures..

 Big thumbs up and I only have 191 pictures..

A Happy Bo!

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 1:45 pm
by LH738
I'm amazed. GREAT shot.

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 2:02 pm
by flyingbronco05

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 12:04 am
by boeingholiday
Yes, that's a really great photo - believe me, it's real, I know Josef, he's copilot and it seems he's got the time to make such beautiful photos.
Great work, Josef!  Laugh out loud

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 1:10 am
by lanpie
Yes, a very nice photo. To be at the right place at the right time.

Pierre

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 6:50 am
by apuneger
Already posted a comment on this pictures in the civil aviation forum, but I'm willing to post it again:

WOW. AMAZING!!

Ivan

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 5:06 pm
by atco
Hi Alexander,

Yes you are correct the W after the vortex category and type would mean RVSM compliant.

Example:

H/B744/W

For non-RVSM it would simply show the aircraft has standard Mode C altitude reporting:

M/B752/C

To Alex,

No I work in Terminal Control, which handles flights departing and arriving in the South East UK from ground level to approx 24,000 ft.
The high altitude traffic is worked by our shiny new (well it was when it was built!) centre at Swanwick.

Cheers

Garry

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Wed May 29, 2002 5:35 pm
by p51
Thank you all for the appreciation of my photo! Until yesterday I didn't even notice that there are several forum threads about that.
First, when I saw the contrails myself, I didn't believe they were true. Even the captain admitted never having seen contrails that large. The reason in this case is a unusual high humidity of the air above the closed layer of clouds below. Then there's the 747 without wingtips, causing (visibly) powerful wake vortices. As I remember, there has also been a strong crosswind.
I'm still working out what's the registration of this 747. I've contacted a colleague who was a flight engineer with KLM, maybe he can help.

Rgds

Josef

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Wed May 29, 2002 9:43 pm
by boeingholiday
Hi Josef, this is Markus! Good to hear from you again! Have you received my e-mails? Good flight, and good luck to make again one of these great photos!

Not!

Posted: Wed May 29, 2002 10:44 pm
by TechRep
The most beautiful picture is not on A.Net but in my collection. Taken over Lake Powell.



TechRep

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 3:07 am
by FLYING MACHINE
GREAT GREAT GREAT PHOTO!FOR THE GREATEST BIRD EVER BUILD.

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 3:34 am
by TechRep
I guess you mean the 328.

TechRep

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 7:19 am
by p51
Markus,

thanks a lot for your postings - currently I'm quite busy and will contact you when I've got a bit more time!

Rgds

Josef

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 8:08 am
by donder10
Cheers Garry,
could you tell me the Northolt approach frequency please as I keep seeing stuff over LHR heading for NLT yet I don't know the frequencies there!Kind of weird to think that I must have heard you on the air waves before while listening to London TMA!
Cheers,Alex

RE: Unbelievable Photo

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 8:48 am
by donder10
Garry,
could you email me at [email protected] please as I have a question I would like to ask you.
Many thanks,Alex