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Shawn Patrick
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Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:49 pm

It's always refreshing to see what I would call a "photo" here on airliners.net, instead of the regular documentary-style photos even if they do have some pretty tight action going on in them.

I'd just like to recognize some (recent) excellent compositions that I've found here on airliners.net. This photos seem to convey a message, which is what all well-composed photos will do.

Feel free to show us some more that you've found.


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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:03 pm

Don't forget:


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I love the composition of this photo. So much more interesting than an average cockpit photo.

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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:11 pm

Hey thanks guys. I sincerely appreciate the comments. I really enjoy getting to show some of my pictures to others that enjoy the hobby. After 20 years of shooting planes, my wife is glad she doesn't have to see them anymore!

v/r
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 3:59 pm

Yo shawn,

thanks for the comment, I like to try different things... I seem to have run into some trouble lately to get things right... Perhaps when i get some new equipment, things will change...

Wietse
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 4:09 pm

I never thought that NWA B742 I shot would get more than usual attention.

I like these:


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Photo © Joe Pries



And that is my pic from Joe's pics, there are a lot more, just can't post them all.

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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:12 pm

Shawn, I couldn't agree more with you. These photos are the ones that proove aviation photographers don't just take documentary "side shots" of aircrafts. A very good topic, some very good photos and some very talented photographers.

I love that Joe Pries photo in the midle there.  Smile

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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 7:08 pm

I couldn't have put it better myself .... great shots guys  Smile
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 7:20 pm

Ya know .. the images as you see above in my opinion are what everyone would like to achieve ....... Excellent stuff


I think i speak for everyone ?

I particularly like the Edelweiss reflection and the Mark "does it again" Garfinkel shots


cheers Tony

 
wietse
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 7:47 pm

Hmmm, that middle one reminds me of something  Smile


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sorry for the plug guys  Smile

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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:16 pm

Composition is what it's mainly about, and without such photographers on A.net, I don't think I would have learned as much as I know today. And with still so much more to learn.

It's like a feeding frenzy when I surf through this site, gaining ideas, concepts and blending them with my own ideas to create what I see and capture it on film or in pixels.


I really love the Joe Pries, NW shot. I have tried similar,

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but having a good eye really helps!

I hope everyone keeps up the good work!

Good topic too!!


DM
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 14, 2002 11:25 pm

thanks gents. Keep in mind that its not necessarily talent that gets you the interesting shots- its taking the time to look through the viewfinder and instead of just clicking away, picture the shot and picture it cropped a bit or back more, etc- when you give each individual shot more attention you'll be surprised at how you'll get more out of your photos.

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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:13 am

The composition isn't everything. It is the combination of colour and composition, and that's why Joe's Northwest shot is light years ahead of the other two by David and Wietse. But this is only my opinion of course. And I'm not saying I'm an authority in this.

Now don't all go and look at my pictures and tell me what you think of them .Or in fact, please do, I'm a sucker for more hits.

I've uploaded a few composition shots, and there are more in the upload queue, but the screener's idea of best composition is a biggest and baddest plane smack-dab- in-the-middle of the frame.

I'm trying to wear them out but so far they're winning  Innocent
 
Shawn Patrick
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:48 am

The composition isn't everything. It is the combination of colour and composition.

Color is an important aspect of composition as well.  Smile
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:15 am

"Now don't all go and look at my pictures and tell me what you think of them .Or in fact, please do, I'm a sucker for more hits.

Closet Clicker
When you tell everyone you don't care about hits, but really do.

 Big thumbs up

https://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/70074/

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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 15, 2002 2:51 am

screener's idea of best composition is a biggest and baddest plane smack-dab- in-the-middle of the frame

Don't include me in that! I'm always delighted to see something visually stimulating - having said that, "different" composition does not equal good composition. I'm not referring to anyone in particular (honest  Smile) but there are photographers on this site who are technically excellent but SHOULD stick to the 50mm ramp shot because they simply don't have an eye for a picture.

In all art forms, interesting results come from breaking the rules, great results come from people who learn the rule book by heart before throwing it away.

What I really dislike is "creativity" being used as an excuse for poor quality work ("but its meant to be out of focus"  Smile )

Some recent examples of my opinion of above average composition:


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Perfect symmetry - one fraction of a second earlier or later on the shutter and the shot is ruined.


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One of the few cabin shots I've looked at by choice  Smile - the eye is just drawn along the aisle giving a great sense of depth and perspective.


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This shot could almost be titled "the rule of thirds" - if the plane was just a tad higher, it would be absolutely perfect, but still great as it is.

Cheers,

Colin



 
Shawn Patrick
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:26 am

It looks like we get some pretty good compositions at DEN. Woo hoo!
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Sat Nov 16, 2002 5:34 am

I'm a sucker for hometown shots, but I just gotta say, my friend Paul Paulsen has been doing some amazing stuff with his D30:


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Look at the detail on the nosegear, and in the cockpit! The lighting!

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Photo © Paul Paulsen


Great colors, light, detail, contrasts

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Photo © Paul Paulsen


Considering the limited number of UA 744s that go in and out of LAX at the same time, this is awesome.

That aside, here are some other pics I think are not "The Norm"


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Midway really is an Inner City airport...  Smile

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Photo © Brian Stevenson - SPOT THIS!


Sorry to bring up LAX again, but this shot is AWESOME! Brian, you probably dont know but this captures everything I love about LAX! There's In-N-Out burger, Sepulveda Blvd, The Flyaway! Bus that I use so often to get to Van Nuys airport from LAX, Asian 747s! (thai,JAL,etc...) and finally blue skies and warm weather! Thanks dude...

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NWA Red against the dark colors of the Boston Skyline...

-Clovis  Smile
 
wietse
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:57 am

I had to look it up, but I think one of my best pics (composition wise) is this one:

It is not aviation related, I know, but the way my eye follows the curve and then gets trapped under the bridge itself is very cool.

Wietse
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:13 am

Cool Wietse! I agree.....! Now, where is that?

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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:27 am

since wer'e into some composition shots now, some d60 action from the city of Corfu.....



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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:42 am

Joe,
Nice, but in the top photo you have "BAD POLE"!!

You have sold me on the D60. I just don't think the others can see the difference, or won't admit it. To me it is almost "night and day".

Can't wait to get some action and landscapes up in the mountains. I could probably make a killing selling prints to the snowboarders! You know how those guys are.... They love seeing themself upside down 15 feet in the air.

v/r
Jeff
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:49 am

Jeff,
just keep one thing in mind- panning with an airplane is one thing, its a big bulky sob, snowboarders- its gonna require alot more effort to get em razor sharp- just want to let you know pal. Thats one thing the 1D has over the D60, much more nimble focusing, especially for the sports photogs. For the other stuff, you will be very very pleased with the results, the camera is spectacular.

Joe
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:27 am

Here's a shot I took this past March 2002... the 6 month anniversary.
Took the shot from Bayonne, NJ. Wanted to get the red, white and blue Empire State Building, Tribute Lights and Statue of Liberty all in one shot.



And one that I took last summer 2001. From West Street...



~Los
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:31 am

Jeff:

Where? Tower Bridge London.

Carlos:

Very impressive, that first shot...

Wietse
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:02 am

Here are 2 that caught my eye recently...

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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:54 am

All excellent photos!!!  Big thumbs up
 
Shawn Patrick
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 12:44 pm

Nice compositions guys!

Especially yours, Wietse. Perhaps the best picture I've seen from you! hehe. BTW, was that Provia?
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:16 pm

Shawn,

Yes, Provia 100F.

Wietse
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:22 am

Thanks Wietse.. like yours too, very interesting tilted angle you chose for it.
Just curious... what type of zoom setting were you at when you shot it?

Here are some more of the "Tribute in Lights" shots that I took back in March 2002. Took these from a pier in Jersey City, NJ. The bottom one shows the blinking lights of a passing jet on it's way to LGA. Both were shot with Nikon N90s, K64, f~8, 10-12 second exposure using my 80-200mm f~2.8 lens.
"Ground Zero" is actually to the right of the light beams... you can see the glow from the recovery/construction equipment.




~Los
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:28 am

Excellent Carlos, looks just like some of the postcards I saw in Central Park this summer. Great work.

v/r
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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:41 am

I must say that I enjoy these "artsy" shots more than the boring side-on shots. So I have actually started taking some new shots that stray away from the normal side shots. A few days ago I took a photo from on top of the PHX parking garage (terminal 4) that consisted of an HP A320 sitting at the gate while just below the aircraft I had my trucks sideview mirror that had a wonderful reflection of a Delta 757 just tucking in the gear on the opposite runway behind me. I think it is an absolutely beautiful shot. I will try to upload it here, but I know that the track record here isnt all too geat for bold shots like mine.

But we will see
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:53 am

Michael,

Sounds interesting to me! Put it up somewhere so we can see it.

Jeff
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:04 pm

Well Jeff, I am getting them developed as we speak, so I should have it, among others, within a few days. As soon as I receive them I will post it up here for you all to check out. Smile

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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 3:10 pm

Thanks Jeff.... they were shot at Owen Grundy Pier in Jersey City, NJ which is a public pier. Just about everyone around here in NJ must have been there every night for those couple weeks they had the beams on. Sure was a beautiful solemn sight to see....

~Los

JeffM writes:

>>Excellent Carlos, looks just like some of the postcards I saw in Central Park this summer. Great work.

v/r
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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 3:42 pm

Carlos:

It was close to 28mm on my EOS 300. Pretty crappy lense, but it doesnt show in this format...

Wietse
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:09 pm

I like how I positioned the Cessna 172 in this shot.



It detracts less from the skyline of Vancouver's False Creek. Smile



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RE: Excellent Composition

Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:07 am


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This one is my all-time fave.

 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 21, 2002 6:09 pm

I have yet to take too many well composed aviation photos, but here are some pictures from my website:







Not the best quality here on the web, but ok.  Smile

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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 21, 2002 9:24 pm

Actually [email protected] you seem to have a rather sharp eye. Frankly it is refreshing to see that some here can be every bit as creative with other disciplines of photography as they are with their aviation work.

I hope to see more of these on you site soon.

Thomas
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 21, 2002 10:18 pm

Thomas,

Great minds think alike I guess... Smile






















These are some examples of pictures taken in the last year.

Wietse

 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Thu Nov 21, 2002 10:28 pm

Thomas, thank you for the compliment. I will have to take some more photos first, but I hope to have some more pics there by christmas time.  Smile

Wietse, yeah I couldn't resist to point the camera upwards. Your wheel pic is good too, but mine had nicer weather, hehe.  Big grin

Well done with the bottom picture btw.  Big thumbs up

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Re:Excellect Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 12:05 am

[email protected],

I'll look forward to seeing them soon....

Wieste,

You know, for the longest time my impression of you was one who was more concerned about the technical aspects of photography. So many of your earlier posts seem to be quoting text books or photographic manuals rather than just taking a chance and taking control of the camera rather than the other way around. I am very happy to say that my assumptions about you were very wrong and you do indeed appear to have a photographers soul afterall. I am rather impressed with your and [email protected]'s use of B&W especially considering your ages. So many up and coming photographers tend to snub B&W, dismissing out of hand it's beauty and artistry. I am happy to see that some of the next generation of photographers have an appreciation for this often neglected format.

All in all very nice......

Keep up the good work and remember "In art there are NO rules".

Thomas
 
wietse
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 4:24 am

Thanks for the comments Thomas and Thomas  Smile

I like to use B&W, and I dont mean converted in photoshop, but real B&W film like Ilford and Kodank Tmax. It can bring out beauty in object where color film shows it in an ordinary way. With the arrival of the D60, I will still continue to use the EOS300 with B&W and films like Velvia just for the beauty of it... The D60 will be used a lot as well, but mainly for aviation and wildlife.

Wietse
 
joe pries
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 4:27 am

Wietse, ive done some D60 shots converted to B&W in photoshop- it comes out just beautiful fyi.

Joe
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 4:29 am

Joe,

Perhaps, I will try it out myself... ouch.. I got a really great Christmas Holiday coming up with lots and lots of photographing in one of the most pitoresque settings in Europe: The Swiss Alps...

Wietse
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 5:54 am

I have tons of black and white photos I have shot on Tmax 400, I'll try to scan some negs soon, there mostly for my photogrpahy class.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 7:25 am

Well here are some of my contributions from the past 5 months







Martin
 
Shawn Patrick
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 7:39 am

Excellent, Martin. "Photo not available."  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 7:47 am

None of them? Ah boll**x. They worked for me......
I'll fix it tomorrow. Here u might as well try here instead. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=247142
They're all there.....
 
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RE: Excellent Composition

Fri Nov 22, 2002 5:47 pm

My photos are still just my attempts to take b/w photos. I'm still learning, but some day I might take a nice b/w photo.  Smile

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