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Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:00 am

For the ones who are using Canon's and shooting with long telephoto lenses (600mm and above / especially with the 1.4 and 2x converter) , I would like to see some RAW stuff, right out of the camera. If you have the post processed image as well to compare those 2, that would be great!

Specs would be nice too.

Thanks
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:04 am

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:03 am

Vasco,

These were shot full-frame on the D60 with only minor retouching:

600mm F4 IS

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500mm F4 IS

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I have some shots in the DB where I used the 70-200mm F2.8 L with a 2x telelconverter as well.

I can't promise you EXIF data or RAW files. It's all buried in the archives...  Smile Maybe if you ask specific questions I could try answers? What is is you're looking into?

wm

 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:21 am

Great topic. This time next year I will be buying my 500mm F/4 L with both converters. I would love to see some photos taken with that lens.

 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:54 pm

VASCO

Can you link a few of your 400 f2.8 Nikon?

I am going to buy that lens soon, any hints you can give? I am thinking using a 1.4 tele not 2x because worried the loss of quality and fstop.

Thanks in advance

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:26 pm

Sam,

following are pics with the Nikon 400mm 2.8F


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next 2 pics with 400mm 2.8F with 2x TC


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with the 2x TC u r getting close to what is good quality, the Flyair shoot I had probs to get accepted, cuase the weather was not perfect.

Robin

Ps: 1st shoots I plug since 6 months, hope u guys undertsand that ....
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:33 pm

Robin

Thanks for showing the pics. Is the 1.4x on the 400 faster and better in focus than the 2x on the 400mm?

If you shoot far away on the 2.8 400mm with the converter, how is the heat haze distortion come out?

The main motive for me to buy it is on the 80 -400mm VR f4.5-5.6, on top end 400mm it is f5.6. and Hope the f2.8 can help to focus better, getting a sharper pic on super tele range stuff.

I also know they have a 1.7x ? any idea on that?

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:43 pm

I didnt notice that the AF is faster on the 1.4 than on the 2.0 , in terms of sharpness the 2.0 is getting really borderline under not perfect conditions, if u have heat haze and using any of the TC , u can throw the pics right into the bin  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I would personally go now for the 1.7 instead of the 2.0. the main reason for me to buy the 400mm AFS was the AF, I used to work with the 80-400mm and had probs focusing fast enough on fast objects, also the 2.8F gives you some more space , if light is vanishing, though the VR on the 80-400 equlas that a bit. overall the 400mm is a great lens, but quite heavy and a lot to wear if you are on a trip ... , I bought mine 2nd hand ... , didnt want to spend that much money on a new one ....

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:36 pm

Sam,

e-mail me, maybe we can work something out here.

The 400mm f2.8 is a great lens, tack sharp, AF is a tad slower when you slap on the 2x converter but you are looking at an unbeatable 800mm f2.8 plus the crop factor = 1200mm.

Heat haze indeed is killing every moment. That is why I head to the airport early (at least in the summer) and leave around 10.00......

Since you asked here are some samples, all taken with the 2x at 1200mm


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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:44 pm

The 400mm f2.8 is a great lens, tack sharp, AF is a tad slower when you slap on the 2x converter but you are looking at an unbeatable 800mm f2.8 plus the crop factor = 1200mm.

I meant 1200mm f5.6



 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:00 pm

thanks guys

V--I sent an email to your yahoo mail.

There is 2

AI-AFS EF ID (II) 400mm f2.8

And

AI-AFS EF ID 400mm f2.8

Not sure what is the first and (II) different?

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:06 pm

i am owning the II , guess the other one is just an older one ... , not so sure about that ...

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:07 pm

I guess you have to own a big lens to post in this thread! lol

Just have to say that all the images produced with these super teles look awesome!!! Lovely to see some images dragged from the archives!

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:47 am

It looks like the Nikon folks hijacked this thread. Thanks for nothing guys.  Big grin
 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:55 am

LOL Chad, its not different than you hijacking every Canon thread buy saying "in 2 years i'm buying this" or "I'm saving up for this" etc etc.

 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:18 am

Damn Royal,

I guess you are right. Woohhhezz me. I just wanted to see the images taken with this lens.


Sorry Vasco,
I read deeper into this thread and realized you had a darkside. <--------JOKE  Big grin  Big thumbs up I didnt know you shot both Canon and Nikon.







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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:53 pm

Actually I wanted to see some long telephoto shots right out of the box, but since no one really replied, we figured let's turn this into a Nikon thread.

Still there are so many shooters who are using Canon primes, seems there is no one really interested in showing off.

Where are Colin, Ryan, Joe P when you need them ??????  Big grin Big grin


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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:11 pm

Vasco - since you specifically asked for 600mm or bigger, didn't think you'd be interested in shots with a ticthy 500mm - but if you want, I'm happy to send you a RAW file (or unprocessed jpg) from a 500 +2x convertor

Cheers,

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:22 pm

Colin

Can you also send it to me. I just sent you my email thru the profile.

Cheers

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:51 am

Ok, I am especially interested in everything taken with prime lenses and the 1.4 and 2x converter.

shots taken with a 300mmf2.8 and above are welcome.

Additionally If anyone is willing to post stuff from the 100-400mm plus a converter I'd be interested in seeing these as well.

Vasco

 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:22 am

Indeed, I second Vasco here. I wouldn't mind seeing unprocessed 100-400 w/ converters. Especially at the long end!

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:41 am

Actually I wanted to see some long telephoto shots right out of the box, but since no one really replied,

I replied Vasco. But you decided to ignore me.  Confused

I have some time today and I can dig up the RAW file. But I won't go through the trouble if you're not interested.

I have shots with the Canon 600, 500 and 300 primes. I have shots using the 300 + 2x and also the 70-200 + 2x. I have not used the 600 or 500 with a teleconverter.

I am glad to help, but if it ain't appreciated... why should I bother?

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:06 am

Willam

sorry my bad, I'd be interested to see the first three, the RAW files if you have.

Vasco

 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:10 am

Vasco,
I just e-mailed you some links. Check your A.net e-mail address...

wm

 
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:23 am

Vasco, check your mail...

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:49 am

Got the files, checked out the images. Well done, I have to say!!!!

You guys now how to handle a big lens!!!!!

William, the Eva Air is a killer. I love every detail of that shot.

Ryan, you are the master....Those stacked TC shots are extraordinary.

Since you did not want to plug the photos, I will do it.


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and there are many more!

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:57 am

I am so tempted to sell my 100-400 L IS and buy a 300 F4 IS + 1.4 TX.

I see a lot of people use the longer primes, but what about the medium length primes such as the 85 and 135?
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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:03 pm

Vasco, Thanks. What's really ironic is I have the 100-400 IS L in my kit that is now almost never used. I once thought I could never use a fixed lens for action shots but nothing could be further from the truth. I love watching my subject in the viewfinder as it fills the frame to my liking. I'm still experimenting with the stacked TC's though. The AF has to nail your subject spot-on for optimum results, plus the combined weight of the 1D2, 300 2.8 & TC's will destroy your arm and neck if you swing it for a full day. It's especially hard on my 45 year old frame  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:00 pm

but what about the medium length primes such as the 85 and 135

If you're referring to the Canon primes, these are exceptional quality lenses indeed. My old FD 85mm f1.2 was perhaps my favorite lens ever - but perhaps of limited use as an aviation lens. The 135 is a bit of an odd one - IMHO too long for portrait work, not long enough for most normal tele applications.

The 135 used to be a very common lens. I think I read somewhere that this was an arbitrary length - possibly something to do with a limit on old rangefinder cameras?

The fact is that these days quality mid range zooms are SO good its hard to justify lugging around a bunch of primes to cover the same range. People using them usually have a specialist requirement - esp. low light cpability.

Cheers,

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:55 pm

Ryan,
May I ask what combination of TCs you use with that 300 to get those shots? They are indeed stunning!

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:21 pm

SAA A340-600: "Canon 1D2 - 300mm F2.8L + 2X & 1.4X TC's stacked - ISO250 - F11 for 1/800th @ 840mm."

Hope that helps Sebastian.  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Canon Images Right Out Of The Box.....

Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:27 pm

Hi Rez,
Thanks! I only opened up the Martinair shot, and there was no detail, so I got curious Big grin.

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