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javibi
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Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:22 am

I have no words:


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Congratulations, Norbert.

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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:18 am

Yes a great shot indeed, I have to say Norbert now is clearly standing out as the best photographer in Sydney, he don't have very fancy equipment, just lot of dedication to spotting and photography, he don't travel much and he likes to take picture of just airplanes, not anyother categories so he deserve all this and a job well done! He owns Sydney airport now!  Big grin

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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:19 am

I have two word:IS and VR. That is Canon's Image Stabilization and Nikon's Vibration Reduction. Great photo. Thank you Norbert Genci for showing your photos to us all.

Anders

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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:14 am

SYD seems to be right place to do it:


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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:02 pm

Other extreme forms of panning.....


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Alas, that was Kai Tak, which means no such photo opportunities anymore!!
 
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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:06 pm

Gordon

those were great. I was mean to ask for a long time, how did you do it? I think those were done on prints those days?



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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:10 pm

Those are some truly fantastic shots!  Big thumbs up

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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:05 pm

Great shots!! I gonna practise more  Big thumbs up

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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:54 pm

Hi Sam,

Yes, those were done on print film, mostly 400's or 800's from Fuji, depending on how bright a lens you've got (and how much coffee you drink on an average day!!).

I guess we were lucky with Kai Tak, with aircraft sweeping by at such close proximity plus the bright lights of Kowloon City coming from below at night. Short to medium telephoto was enough for those shots, with 85mm being the optimal. I personally used a 85 f/1.8 wide open, iso800 film (most of the time), focus set manually to infinity, shutter speeds of 1/15 sec or lower, and just let the exposure latitude of the print film take care of the rest. I tried to follow the aircraft as closely as I could and fired off several shots in succession, hoping at least one would be sharp enough. Nights with low clouds tend to work better, as the clouds reflected the city lights downward onto the planes fuselage tops. Still, with such low shutter speeds, I'd feel lucky if I got 3 sharp prints out of a roll of 36!!

Other guys with brighter lens (e.g. 85 f/1.4 or 1.2) tend to experiment with lower speed film, with some pushing it by going to 200 or even 100 film!! Needless to say, shutter speeds were ridiculously low, and I won't speculate on their success rate. We sure burned through tons of film in those days for these shots, but we thought, what the heck, Kai Tak would be history soon; either shoot now or forever regret!!

 
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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:46 pm

My two most popular  Big thumbs up

1/4s F4 ISO 200 respectively 1/80 F? ISO100


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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:10 pm

Gordon - Wonderful shots, and interesting story. I am shooting mostly panning lately and I am thankful to IS and digital, because, as you said, the success rate is quite low, but it feels real good when you get it right!  Smile

See some more nice examples:


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Enjoy!!!

One question: I've experienced that it is real difficult to get the whole aircraft in focus while panning, e.g. the tail and center area is focused but the nose is not, no matter what you do. Anybody can explain the reason for that? Anybody knows tricks to avoid this?

Thanks

j

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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:35 pm

Its about relative angle to the sensor,

the aircraft nose and tail are moving away or closer to you in the yaw direction and the middle of the fuselage is almost stationary as it is the point of pivot.

I would guess that would be reasons
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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:40 pm

One of my first attempts some 20 years ago:

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Last year:

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.... and still practicing  Smile
 
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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:01 am

those are all examples of panning that have been posted above...and i don't usually do this but felt compelled...all with the canon 75-300 IS



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and a couple that aren't for a.net...





just some of my panning shots...i love the effect of motion blur.

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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:47 am

Thank you all for the complements, much appreciated  Smile The lens I used was the standard Canon 75-300mm, no IS. I was very surprised the photo turned out as sharp as it did.

There are great examples of motion blur in this thread. It's not an easy thing to do at all once it's close to dead set dark.

Sam, when will we see more shots from the ground at SYD? I guess the 900mm is keeping you from the airport, after all, not everyone can do banking shots  Yeah sure

Norbert
 
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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:23 pm

awesome shot Norbert! one of the best shot's you've submitted! well done!
 
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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:56 pm

Hi Norbert

You can add my vote of appreciation for this shot as well. And without IS, this is amazing!

CB
 
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RE: Panning, Anyone?

Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:28 pm

Really nice photos Norbert and everyone else. Also thanks for plugging in one of mine...even though I think this one is my best motion blur shot (at 1/20 shutter)


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sorry about the self-plug... Laugh out loud I just love motion blur!

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