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swabur
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Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:45 am

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/unrealpics.html

Sixth one down. Is this a real pic? If so when was this? BTW, when the link says "unreal" pics I think it means "NO WAY!!" pics. Could be wrong though.
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AlitaliaMD11
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:48 am

Pretty sure thats fake and the water has been photoshoped into the photo.
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dogfighter2111
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:50 am

hehe,

Well if you look at teh URL you posted, it says 'unrealpics' ...lol

That is fake. An aircraft wouldn't go through water that deep.

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:51 am

Basically if its on ebaums world there is a 95% chance its a fake. But I must admit thats a damn good edit.

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Oz777
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:56 am

Well sorry to burst your bubble folks ....but

The picture is real.

Aircraft was there first, huge downpour, blocked drains and presto!!!!

Scratch one 737 for the next couple of days.

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:57 am

Well, at least the one above it is real (car hanging from the ceiling). I've seen that one myself at HAM airport. The text below it says: "Warning! Fixed with cheap glue only. (We couldn't afford more, thanks to our extremely low fares.)"
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:03 am


This one looks pretty real for me!
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dogfighter2111
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:06 am

Well, because there are flaps down and you can see the pilots in the cockpit (slightly) then this aircraft must be taxiing.

A drain will not flood, nor will rainfall this heavy whislt that aircraft is taxiing. It is nothing more than a good edit.

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:20 am

The reflection is a good touch, but the edit doesn't look right to me. A bit fake looking especially around the engines.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:28 am

If you look at the reflection of the engines on the fuselage of the aircraft, you can see the water line repeated. I'm with Oz777, this 'looks' real to me.
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:33 am

That photo is real...

Think the pilots misgauged the depth of the water on the taxiway. Why is that so hard to believe?
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:46 am

Some of you are easily fooled! It's a photoshop plug-in, might be able to pull it up somewhere in the photography forum. I have a photo of a buddy of mine drinking a beer in his 'flooded' apartment.



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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:50 am

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 7):

I agree, the flaps are down, and you can see some heat blur from the engines.

I think it is a fake.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:53 am

The pic is a fake. Look at the engine reflection on the hull. You can clearly see the bottom of the engine and it's not covered by water
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:58 am

There was a thread on this a while back, and it was concluded by most that it is indeed a fake. I was one who thought it was real at first, but I crossed over to the "fake" crowd after being convinced.  Smile

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:06 am

http://www.flamingpear.com/flood.html

There we go. Sorry to burst bubbles!
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:10 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 10):
That photo is real...

Think the pilots misgauged the depth of the water on the taxiway. Why is that so hard to believe?

Pilots don't taxi their jets through standing water. No matter how deep it is.
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:07 pm

Quoting Wmupilot (Reply 13):
The pic is a fake. Look at the engine reflection on the hull. You can clearly see the bottom of the engine and it's not covered by water

I agree!
that's the clue!
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:26 pm

Nice try ...

My two observations

1) You can see the plane not directly on taxi marking line

2) There are no taxi light poles by the plane

[Edited 2005-12-03 07:29:16]
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:46 pm

Look behind the engines, there is lots of heat coming out the back. The engines are running and no 2 inlet is in the water yet there is not even any spray. Impossible.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:31 pm

Some people are WAY too easily fooled by their eyes. This doesn't even look real at all. The water looks very computer generated, much like a 3D rendered video game. The next major clue, the engines are running in this picture, yet NO water is being ingested. Look at the #1 engine. If an engine can suck water off of wet surfaces (which they often do) I'd say it would be sucking this puddle up like crazy and you would see the water line enter the #1 engine instead of sitting there at a few inches below the inner wall of the nacelle. But that brings us to the question...could an engine even survive running under water this deep???
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:38 pm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 20):
But that brings us to the question...could an engine even survive running under water this deep???

Yeah I was wondering the same thing, how much water would it take to "flood" an engine. Ive seen video of Boeing testing their engines with jets of water to simulate rain. It looked like enough to maybe kill an engine but who am I to guess these things.
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:57 pm

Yeah, those engines would have certainly ceased to run by the point that water is coming up into the fan blades. Good edit, but no.

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Oz777
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:04 pm

OK

Let's refine the mystery a little.

What airport is it - should be easy to determine given Easy's route network. Then all we have to do is check their incident log.

As to the individual who has never seen a 'drain' block and overflow, can I suggest you get out of the desert and go to Asia and a few other airports around Europe - plenty of water there!!!

Come on, we need a few more 'experts' here before we check another forum that just happens to have an EasyJet section for tech crew (and their comments on this photo).

Does that give you a clue?

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:10 pm

Quoting Oz777 (Reply 4):

I guess that would be why the engines are running (note the heat coming out the back) but not ingesting water?

Edit: Also looks like somebody finally found my baby Big grin

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dogfighter2111
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:32 pm

Quoting Oz777 (Reply 23):
As to the individual who has never seen a 'drain' block and overflow, can I suggest you get out of the desert and go to Asia and a few other airports around Europe - plenty of water there!!!

Come on, we need a few more 'experts' here before we check another forum that just happens to have an EasyJet section for tech crew (and their comments on this photo).

Hey,

I posted my solution a while back, and a few people have agreed with me. NO, and i repeat NO pilots is going to steer their aircraft directly into water.

If that ever did happen, the airport would measure the depth and if it were too deep then the taxiway would simply be closed.

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:08 pm

The airport actually looks like Aberdeen Airport.

No floods here...  Confused
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mikedlayer
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:37 pm

Its obviously a fake, I can whip something like that up in photoshop in a couple of minutes!!
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:29 pm

Wouldn't there be ripples coming from the gear and engines if it was moving. Seems fake to me but whoever did, did a really good job.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:34 pm

It looks real enough, but it's fake!!!
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm

OK

Lets add further for the experts.

Who said the water was there first?. Could it be that the aircraft was there when the level rose quickly? (waiting for a gate).

Ever heard of pilot error - nah that never happens!!!! (But tell that to certain SQ and KLM 747 drivers!!!)

Are the taxiways and runways behind the aircraft in the same wet condition as the prime piece of the photo?

Come on folks - have you checked the incident logs yet.

Sadly, this exposes how much this forum 'guesses'. Lets not allow hard facts to get in the way of (dis)proving a good story (photo).

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:24 pm

Quoting Oz777 (Reply 30):
Who said the water was there first?. Could it be that the aircraft was there when the level rose quickly? (waiting for a gate).

Sorry but that's a ridiculous suggestion, particularly after the pretty strong evidence i.e. running engines already provided in this thread.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:30 pm

Quoting Oz777 (Reply 30):
Who said the water was there first?. Could it be that the aircraft was there when the level rose quickly? (waiting for a gate).

As many other people have already said: there's no water being ingested by the engines, and yet they're clearly running. You can clearly see the haze.

Please explain that one.

Quoting Oz777 (Reply 30):
Sadly, this exposes how much this forum 'guesses'. Lets not allow hard facts to get in the way of (dis)proving a good story (photo).

Like you're not letting the cold hard fact that this water here is apparently so heavy that it doesn't get sucked up by a running engine get in the way of your otherwise completely unsupported insistence that the picture is real?

The picture's a fake. It was discussed before, and someone found the original there, but I can't seem to find that thread.

[Edited 2005-12-03 13:31:14]
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:53 pm

NoW we know how Stelios got the idea for Easy Cruise.  Silly



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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:35 pm

its a 100% fake. I know the steps required to do it in photoshop. First you need to select the top half of the image (non-water part), flip it vertically, and place the top edge where the "water" will start @ the top of the image. simply use the "ocean ripple" filter on the new mirrored layer and presto you have that.
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Amy
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:40 pm

This has been discussed a thousand times.

It's fake. Look at the depth of the water. It should be flwoing into the starboard engine which i'm sure wouldn't be a good thing. IF this was a real incident we would have heard of it.
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:52 pm

The starboard landing gear is almost submerged. A mere 25 feet or so behind this gear we have dry pavement. It’s much the same thing on the port side where the water's almost deep enough to flow into the engine. Not far behind this engine we have dry land. Surely no airport would have such dips in the terrain, eh? The water's been added to an otherwise dry picture.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:53 pm

So we have established that it is a fake (has been discussed before millions of times) so end of this thread............
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:21 am

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 37):
So we have established that it is a fake (has been discussed before millions of times) so end of this thread............

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:24 am

Quoting Lutenist (Reply 36):
Surely no airport would have such dips in the terrain, eh?

Lagos certainly does..... oh, those are potholes.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:30 am

Wasn't this photo made by Gary Watt (screener here at A.net)??
 
stirling
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:54 am

Points used in support of the picture being fake:

1) Flaps deployed.

As evidenced in this photo, easyJet taxies with such deployed. Besides, I don't understand how these being extended, automatically makes the photo fake.
http://images.airliners.net/photos/photos/2/4/3/966342.jpg

2) Heat mirage from exhaust.

The engines could very well be on idle, running, but not generating forward thrust, therefore water is not being ingested...nor are there waves indicating movement.

3) No Airport would have this much water standing.

Airports are not perfectly flat enviroments.
Why couldn't this aircraft have been taxying, saw the water ahead but assumed it was just a thin covering; not knowing the terrain in the location was actually much lower than the surrounding area; entered the area and became stuck.
It is stationary when this photo was taken, not using reverse thrust to back out for fear of ingesting water...Looks like it is waiting for a tow.

4) Photoshop Add-In.

If this such an easy hoax to produce, I would like to see some additional examples...please post some here.
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AeroVodochody
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:15 am

FAKE!

Notice the reflection of the taxiway centerline on the plane's nose.

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airworlda320
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:33 am

One question has to be asked:- why would you want to show a 737 in 3 to 4 feet of water, beats me!!!

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:34 am

How's this for an obvious clue?


While the left-hand engine could be reflected in the water, the grass behind it couldn't - it's at the wrong angle.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:36 am

Quoting AeroVodochody (Reply 42):
Notice the reflection of the taxiway centerline on the plane's nose.

Good observation AeroVodochody. I have never heard of water proof reflections  Wink

I have been looking for a dry version of this picture on Airliners.net, Jetphotos.net, Planepictures.net and MyAviation.net.
Found nothing, but I found out that the airport is ABZ. Look at

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Has there been any local flooding at ABZ in the last 5 years or so?

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dogfighter2111
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:40 am

Quoting JHSfan (Reply 45):

Yer, you got it. That is an EZY B737 @ ABZ.

It is sooooo FAKE, but people still believe it.

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:44 am

Quote:
Wasn't this photo made by Gary Watt (screener here at A.net)??

That's what I was thinking - I seem to recall that Gary started a thread in the photography forum to show what this then-new photoshop feature could do. That the photo is from Aberdeen would seem to support my memory.
 
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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:11 am

I also remember that Gary took this photo - I recall seeing it in a thread here some time ago and I am sure Gary hosted the original that time - with no water  no .

I have had a quick search to find that thread, but with no luck.

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RE: Real Or Fake?

Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:16 am

Yes its Aberdeen

bet you wish you put a copyright logo on it now eh Gary  Wink

if the airport flooded that much the rest of aberdeen would be floating in the middle of the north sea by now
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