Pre-Screen Thread #2

diamond · Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:17 pm

This is the continuation of "Pre-Screen Thread #1" which had reached over 270 replies.

Old thread: https://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...tion_photography/read.main/309552/

flynavy · Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:20 pm

Since my reply was towards the end right before thread no. 1 was super-ceded by this one:

DABZF · Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:30 pm

Can I stick these here again as well?

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Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 680 File size: 431kb

... and I know boring shots... but would still appreciate a comment. Thanks! Smile

flynavy · Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:52 pm

Quoting DABZF (Reply 2):

They both appear to be slightly over-sharpened as I can see some jaggies on the leading edges (more so in the Avro). Also, the Avro looks to be a little low in the frame. Good luck! Big grin

bubbles · Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:55 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 1):

All look good to me.

Quoting DABZF (Reply 2):

CSA: Contrast is high. Small jaggies in places.
OO-DJL: Contrast is also high. The plane is a little low in frame. Colour is slightly off. And a dust spot in sky. Small jaggies in places.

_Hongyin_

[Edited 2008-07-09 15:56:38]

ANITIX87 · Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:16 am

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 4):
All look good to me.

Look quite soft on my screen. Which sort of worries me, since that means that the ones I have uploaded are way too sharp, assuming you're on your screening computer.

Therefore, here are just a few of mine. Comments on sharpness, please?

Thanks.

TIS

flynavy · Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:36 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 5):

The EasyJet is definitely over-sharp, at least on my end.

bubbles · Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:05 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 5):
Therefore, here are just a few of mine. Comments on sharpness, please?

I am not on my screening monitor at the moment. But I still could say that I see jaggies on all photos you posted here.

_Hongyin_

damien846 · Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:56 pm

What do you guys and girls think of this one in the queue.
Cheers
Damien
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSC_4896.jpg

ANITIX87 · Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:37 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 7):
I am not on my screening monitor at the moment. But I still could say that I see jaggies on all photos you posted here.

Not what I wanted to hear, haha. If a screener happens to look at mine on their Dell, I'd love some comments. Most of my shots are this sharp, and I don't want 12/12 rejected for sharpness, which has always been my achilles heel, though I usually make them too soft!

Quoting Damien846 (Reply 8):
What do you guys and girls think of this one in the queue.

I LOVE it!!! I can't comment on sharpness (see above disastrous examples) but the motive, contrast, color, and quality look very good!

TIS

bubbles · Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:57 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 9):
If a screener happens to look at mine on their Dell, I'd love some comments.

Checked them all on Dell. Yes, oversharpened.

_Hongyin_

chachu201 · Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:35 pm

Quoting Damien846 (Reply 8):

Yes, absolutely, it looks stunning!

Shanwick · Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:22 pm

Hi,
need some help with this rejected photo (reasons: level and qualitiy) Any chance to improve the quality and what's the point I have to pay attention? Presently I have no idea what's the reason for (bad) quality.

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ections/big/20080710_IMG_5752c.jpg

bubbles · Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:42 am

Quoting Shanwick (Reply 12):
Presently I have no idea what's the reason for (bad) quality.

Several minor issues, such as, slightly harsh contrast, a little too bright, and oversaturated colour, lead to this quality rejection.

Hope this helps!

_Hongyin_

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:22 am

Quoting Damien846 (Reply 8):

Beautiful shot! Hope it gets in!

ANITIX87 · Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:58 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 10):
Checked them all on Dell. Yes, oversharpened.

Ok, thanks. Have pulled all since I don't want to waste a screener's time and don't want to reduce my ratio. Will re-edit and re-upload and will ask here again on Sunday night when I'm back home.

Very glad to see these threads working so well, and screeners more than willing to help out!

TIS

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:32 pm

I'm unsure about this shot's crop; it just looks strange to me. Input? BTW - I leveled to the Renny Hotel in the background.

Thanks,
Chris in ATL

ANITIX87 · Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:08 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 16):
I'm unsure about this shot's crop; it just looks strange to me. Input? BTW - I leveled to the Renny Hotel in the background.

I think the crop is ok, but the shot is definitely not level. Did you use the roof of the hotel, or the vertical right edge? You should ALWAYS use verticals when leveling, never horizontals. This is because a vertical is vertical no matter what, but unless you are looking at a building DEAD ON, the roof will not be vertical due to the perspective our eyes use when looking at distances.

This shot definitely needs some CCW rotation.

TIS

bubbles · Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:15 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 16):
I'm unsure about this shot's crop

Crop should be okay. But it's not level. CCW rotation needed. And some specks in sky need to be removed.

_Hongyin_

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:46 pm

How's this? BTW thanks for the input.

bubbles · Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:48 pm

Hi Chris

This time I feel the image needs very tiny CW rotation.

_Hongyin_

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:54 pm

Leveling shots in ATL can be a pain in the arse!

How's this?

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:17 pm

A few more:

UltimateDelta · Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:29 pm

Quoting Shanwick (Reply 12):
Presently I have no idea what's the reason for (bad) quality

it's also a tiny bit grainy in the background. Not much, but enough to get it rejected.

kentauta · Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:16 pm

Any chance on this one? Oversharpened ?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2314/2658518463_d8b1c87d3f_o.jpg

Thank you in advance.

[Edited 2008-07-11 11:19:12]

[Edited 2008-07-11 11:30:40]

[Edited 2008-07-11 11:48:38]

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:22 pm

Quoting Kentauta (Reply 24):

Image no workie.

kentauta · Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:33 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 25):

Image no workie.

Sorry. I fixed the url.

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:36 pm

Quoting Kentauta (Reply 26):

I'm seeing some quality issues on my end - did you compress the photo, or did Picasa compress during upload?

Nice catch of the AA 763 at SAN btw.

kentauta · Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:47 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 27):

It seems that the image is not displayed at 100% for some reasons..
Does the following work?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2314/2658518463_d8b1c87d3f_o.jpg

flynavy · Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:11 pm

kentauta · Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:28 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 27):
Nice catch of the AA 763 at SAN btw.

Wow. you could tell that it was SAN. Thanks, by the way.

Unfortunately, I am very new to photography so I cannot leave any technical comment on
your picture in Reply 29. But, it looks nice to me.

Shanwick · Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:21 am

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 13):

Thank you (also to Ultimate Delta) for the hints. Perhaps I'll try it again in a couple of months. By then the next two photos, which are presently in the queue, should be rejected... Wink

bubbles · Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:39 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 29):

Nice shot, but insufficient contrast.

_Hongyin_

bubbles · Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:44 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 22):
A few more:

US Airways: slight jaggies around the titles.
UA: Nice one, but flat - you could increase a bit contrast.
Delta: Looks a little reddish. And tiny CW rotation needed.

_Hongyin_

chuck9941 · Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:26 am

Thoughts?

About the best I could do with the crop with where the aircraft was framed.

GST · Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:02 am

Just a sample of some pics I taken at RAF Waddington Airshow 08. Any likely to be accepted?

Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1692 File size: 961kb

Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1286 File size: 759kb

Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1289 File size: 881kb

flynavy · Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:13 am

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 32):

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 33):

Thanks for the reply. I'll revisit these shots for sure.

mnazarinia · Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:52 am

Dear All,

What do you think about this photo? Shall I keep it in the queue?

Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 812 File size: 409kb

Cheers,
Mehdi.

flynavy · Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:00 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 32):

How's this? Bumped up the contrast a tad.

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 33):
UA: Nice one, but flat - you could increase a bit contrast.

Same here, kicked up the contrast.

Brought down red ten clicks on the ASA:

flynavy · Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:03 pm

Quoting Chuck9941 (Reply 34):

The Alitalia is out of focus unfortunately.

flynavy · Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:16 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 33):
US Airways: slight jaggies around the titles.

Revisited this shot...

UltimateDelta · Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:48 pm

How 'bout this one?

Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1200 File size: 1232kb

UltimateDelta · Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:59 pm

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 41):
How 'bout this one?

Check that, make it this one:

Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1200 File size: 1212kb

bubbles · Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:30 pm

Quoting Chuck9941 (Reply 34):
Thoughts?

Alitalia: Blurry.
N811QS: Insufficient contrast.

Quoting GST (Reply 35):
Any likely to be accepted?

They all look soft. And ...

#1, dark, not well centered, wrong size.
#3, not well centered, distant (should crop it tighter).

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 37):
What do you think about this photo? Shall I keep it in the queue?

Looks dark to me.

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 38):
How's this? Bumped up the contrast a tad.

Still looks flat. Others look better.

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 42):
Check that, make it this one:

Grainy, not level, soft, too much JPG compression, and maybe motiv (due to the reflections near the lower left corner).

_Hongyin_

[Edited 2008-07-14 06:31:33]

Scotland1979 · Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:41 pm

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 42):
Check that, make it this one:

Need CCW abit - terminal and tower look lean to right abit

flynavy · Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:03 pm

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 42):

No chance. Quality just isn't there.

AF340 · Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:37 pm

How about these two?

or the tower?

Liam

bubbles · Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:55 pm

Quoting AF340 (Reply 46):
How about these two?

Sorry, but both shots won't be accepted due to ...

#1, bad crop + fence (motiv), not center, soft
#2, not motivated shot (motiv), not level, not center, dust spots (dirty), soft, insufficient contrast.

_Hongyin_

GST · Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:55 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 43):
Quoting GST (Reply 35):
Any likely to be accepted?

They all look soft. And ...

#1, dark, not well centered, wrong size.
#3, not well centered, distant (should crop it tighter).

Thank you for the info. Whilst looking closer I agree with the soft observation for all, and have gone back and sharpened. I also agree entirely for #3.

with regards to #1 however, I'm not sure about how it is not well centred. I assume you are referring to the cable, as I think the helicopter looks better for having the entire rotors visible, and cropped around the rotor tips. I attempted to give it the cable tip the same clearance down and to the left to the edge of the frame, as otherwise it looked ugly. Is this what you referred to? Also, when I re-upload the image to the que, is this the type of thing that I should put as a note to the screener?

AF340 · Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:39 pm

Quoting Bubbles (Reply 47):

Ok, well thanks anyway!

Liam spin

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