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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:14 pm



Quoting Mictheslik (Reply 100):

1: oversharpened

2: contrast

3:looks fine


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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:17 pm



Quoting Gabriel3630 (Reply 99):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/2819829642_b9338825a5_o.jpg

Quality isnt there and the view is not interesting
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:52 pm



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 92):
Night pannings are very, very, very difficult and hard to make look good, which is why there aren't any in the database.

Reality check man.....those are just the ones I can remember, surely there are many more.



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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:28 pm



Quoting INNflight (Reply 103):
those are just the ones I can remember, surely there are many more

That Dash 8 pic is really great! I see, I will have to practice a bit until I'll be as good as the above shown examples, but taking the pics was much fun, and this is what this hobby should be all about.

Another one:

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:28 pm



Quoting INNflight (Reply 103):
Reality check man

I didn't say cant. I said they are incredibly difficult. And the SYD ones are not in the dark. There's plenty of light for a panning shot. The HKG ones are impressive, I will admit. And the Dash-8 shot is phenomenal, but then Javier Guerrero is just an out of this world photographer.

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:46 pm



Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 104):

Well, theyre a lot better than I could ever do, I'll admit that. You manage to track the aircraft well in very low light conditions, and with practise we could see something like Javiers shots but by you!
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:26 pm

Andres left me a personal note saying I should drop this off here, so I am this time:
Rejected for level all previous times. He said for me to level off the crossbar on the window in the back, just overtop of the drone, so I did:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/2307/606940bigbfi5or2.jpg

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:41 pm



Quoting Chachu201 (Reply 106):
Well, theyre a lot better than I could ever do, I'll admit that. You manage to track the aircraft well in very low light conditions, and with practise we could see something like Javiers shots but by you!

Hey Gabriel,
thanks for your nice words, I'll definitely try it out again. Those were all taken handheld, I think I'll use a monopod next time....

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:15 am

Your opinions on this one please folks.
Thanks in advance,
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https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/ILIVN_TAPA_Rare_1649_290808.jpg
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:54 am

ok, had this one rejected for color/contrast...

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20080902_CI744YVR180608.jpg

adjusted the color/contrast a little and came up with this...

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/CI744YVR180608b.jpg

but I'm still not sure... is that enough or does it need more adjustment? I just have the damnedest time when it comes to getting the right color when the sun is low... any suggestions welcomed...

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:21 am

hi guys,

I am not sure about this picture. I really do like it but I am not sure if I should leave it in the queue.
Thats the pic I am talking about:

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/D-ALCD_2.jpg

Thanks for your input.

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:02 pm

I had this photo rejected first for dark with a note from the screener to brighten and resubmit. Photo was the rejected for soft (there was some information problems as well.)

I went back to the original RAW and reprocessed. Your input would be appreciated:

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/N277HC_2_ml_reproc1.jpg
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:11 pm

What about this one?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2822086348_fcb7a46d97_o.jpg

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:44 pm

Awesome shot Bill! Tho it really doesn't need the creative thing because it stands on it's own merit as a top notch depature shot. Tho I would place the aircraft a tad lower in the frame and give it a touch more USM. Great shot!
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:53 pm

Suggestions?

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:34 am

 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:50 am

There is a chance?

Comment this photo:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2826849280_26e303f14f_o.jpg


Gabriel Nogueira.

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:22 am

Again the creative or crap thing... what do you think on chances?

http://www.lars-tretau.de/forumbilder/110.jpg

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:23 am

I asked about this one a few days ago but didn't get any replies so here it is again.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/WithaK_01/20080531_HIND714_1_E2.jpg
I working on the laptop and are having troubles judging quality. To me the tail looks a little wrong. Are my eyes deceiving me?

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:00 pm

I'm putting this one up:

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/9VSKC_DSC_0519_yssy.jpg

I can't see any big issues with it - but then I don't have very sharp eye. I wish I was closer to the plane (I was across the other side of the airport, a long distance away from it).
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:06 pm

Hi All,

Lots of questions and few replies...nobody wants to help out?
This thread lives (and dies) depending on the help photographers can give to each other, so please contribute with some good advice!
With so many requests, I am going to have to be brief...

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 107):
Rejected for level all previous times. He said for me to level off the crossbar on the window in the back, just overtop of the drone, so I did:

Maybe it's an optical illusion, but it still looks like it would need some more CCW?

Quoting AviatorG (Reply 109):
Your opinions on this one please folks

Too grainy and dark, and a bit oversaturated.

Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 110):
is that enough or does it need more adjustment?

Colours look better, but I think it needs a kick extra contrast in the dark tones.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 111):
I am not sure about this picture.

Quality is not there, very grainy and strange looking colours.

Quoting Michlis (Reply 112):
Your input would be appreciated:

Is soft in parts and oversharpened in others, will depend on how many are already in the DB.

Quoting Njgtr82 (Reply 113):
What about this one?

Halos, and black lines are a bit oversharp.

Quoting Flamedude707 (Reply 115):
Suggestions?

Alaska: bit soft and needs a kick more contrast.
AA: same as above.

Quoting Gabriel3630 (Reply 116):
Whay do you think about this?

JAL: Halos and black lines a bit oversharp.
TAM: That's not TAM's red, and colours are overstaurated.

Quoting Deradere (Reply 118):
what do you think on chances?

Give it a try (no guarantees, though!). Would have preferred to have the landing gear lights either full in or out, and the fuselage maybe better centered, but it sure gives a new perspective on a classic Sabre.

Quoting WithaK (Reply 119):
so here it is again.

Soft in parts, too much contrast in the dark tones (and thus too dark), and a bit oversharp in a few parts.

Quoting Cpd (Reply 120):
I'm putting this one up:

Too much contrast and too soft, nose maybe even a bit blurry.

Now, back to screening...
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:39 pm



Quoting Acontador (Reply 121):
Maybe it's an optical illusion, but it still looks like it would need some more CCW?

The rear window is curved, like a panoramic display... on top of that, there are so many clashing levels and lines in the photo.... I want to get it on here, but I'm starting to give up hope.
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:00 pm

I attempted this shot under the "new" creative rules, and I thought it was a awesome shot. Apparently it has flaws that are unseen by me, as it was rejected by the headscreeners for dark, and blurry.
Now to me, it was on the inside of a black balloon. The metering was off the colors at the top of the photo, therefore the black is dark. If I lighten the black, the colors are overexposed. Also, as for the blurry, I was focused and locked when the pilot hit the burner for me, so the blur is from the heat rising in the balloon. That is what made a cool shot.
Suggestions?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2827366805_2aa762b9a5_o.jpg
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:54 pm

Hi, I took this photo in San Andres, Colombia......I know that its not the best photo, but I couldnt find any photo of a plane landing on that airport (ADZ), so I think that this will be a good point...what do you think?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/2828313722_9870f8cfb3.jpg?v=0

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:06 pm



Quoting ReyRex (Reply 124):

For a start, it's way too small and the aircraft isn't central.

Can't really comment on quality simply due to the size of the photograph.

Tom Big grin
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:19 pm



Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 125):
due to the size of the photograph

your picture has to be at least 1024pixels wide.

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:38 pm

 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:53 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 114):

Thanks Nick, I'll give it another try in Photoshop.
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:01 pm



Quoting ReyRex (Reply 127):
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn0504oq9.jpg

Quality is pretty far off from out standards, sorry but this will never make it.

Quoting JonathanJet (Reply 123):
I attempted this shot under the "new" creative rules, and I thought it was a awesome shot. Apparently it has flaws that are unseen by me, as it was rejected by the headscreeners for dark, and blurry.
Now to me, it was on the inside of a black balloon. The metering was off the colors at the top of the photo, therefore the black is dark. If I lighten the black, the colors are overexposed. Also, as for the blurry, I was focused and locked when the pilot hit the burner for me, so the blur is from the heat rising in the balloon. That is what made a cool shot.
Suggestions?

I can see the quality issues, but I would have probably gone for a different crop too, focus on the color and burner and leave the edges out.
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:48 pm

Have just uploaded this to the queue... Opinions please...  Smile

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/9V-SVL_MAN_06_07_08.jpg
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:27 am

Is that better now?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2828875441_91b8807e1b_o.jpg


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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:33 am

About this other one?

What do you guys think?


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2358/2829858272_aa7d0b1f1d_o.jpg



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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:08 am

Any advice on this one? I know it's a bit grainy but I've seen pics on this site with ISO1600 and more. This was done with ISO500 and it was quite some time after sunset.

https://www.airliners.net/uf/536881730/php6VZnN3.jpg
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:52 am



Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 133):
Any advice on this one? I know it's a bit grainy but I've seen pics on this site with ISO1600 and more. This was done with ISO500 and it was quite some time after sunset.

Too blurry

May I just say that find this thread rather pointless at times. I just had to rejected a photo I already commented on here and said would never make it.

I dont see the point in pre-screening if shots are just left in the queue anyway.

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:12 pm

Can I get some opinions on this shot?

Click for full size:


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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:19 pm

...and also these two.



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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:28 pm

Ok, not very often in prescreening but here's my go ... (click on the thumbnails for full version!)
this was taken with the very last daylight (sun was completely gone byt then though)


creative?




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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:31 pm



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 135):
Can I get some opinions on this shot?

Chris, is it possible the perspective makes the twr SEEM unlevel ? (I'm not saying it is, since the rest looks perfectly level to me  Wink )
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:35 pm



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 138):

Possible yeah, since the lower buildings are attached to the tower. But the shot is definitely level - at least, I'm pretty sure it is.  Smile
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:36 pm



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 136):

The TWR shot looks nice, give it a try.
The 2 shots of the 73 look a bit darkish.
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:20 pm



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 140):
Possible yeah, since the lower buildings are attached to the tower. But the shot is definitely level - at least, I'm pretty sure it is.

yes, that's why I emphasized on the "perception", cause looking at the lower buildings and the horizon it looks perfectly level  Smile
btw, where is thw location? nice looking tower and nice shot Big grin
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:23 pm



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 141):

ATL of course. Where else?  Smile

Tallest ATC tower in North America btw.
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:27 pm

Screeners - do you buy the white balance on these shots? Camera setting was AWB of course, which I use 90% of the time. The sunrise was very unusual. All shots are from the same morning.



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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:35 pm



Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 134):
May I just say that find this thread rather pointless at times. I just had to rejected a photo I already commented on here and said would never make it.

Well I'm not going to upload it now that I got an opinion  Smile
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:33 pm



Quoting Acontador (Reply 121):
Is soft in parts and oversharpened in others, will depend on how many are already in the DB.

Thanks for the input. I left it in and it was accepted today.  thumbsup 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:35 pm

Am I asking for a motive or distance rejection?

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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:14 pm

All,
Still trying to iron out my workflow. But some of the camera settings I've been using up 'till now may be kicking me in the rear. I need to turn off in-camera processing and probably remove my cheap UV haze filter to try and sharpen up my shots.

Thoughts?



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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:12 am



Quoting NSMike (Reply 146):
Am I asking for a motive or distance rejection?

I would crop just the plane.

Quoting AndrewC75 (Reply 147):
All,
Still trying to iron out my workflow. But some of the camera settings I've been using up 'till now may be kicking me in the rear. I need to turn off in-camera processing and probably remove my cheap UV haze filter to try and sharpen up my shots.

Thoughts?

It looks a bit oversharpened in the front and soft towards the rear. I also see some grain on the dark colored parts, but maybe it's just my monitor
 
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RE: Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:47 am

Quoting NSMike (Reply 146):
Am I asking for a motive or distance rejection?

Too much distance - not centre - and I don't see the motive for this crop. The background doesn't add anything much. Crop closer if the original image has enough quality to allow it.

Quoting AndrewC75 (Reply 147):
All,
Still trying to iron out my workflow. But some of the camera settings I've been using up 'till now may be kicking me in the rear. I need to turn off in-camera processing and probably remove my cheap UV haze filter to try and sharpen up my shots.

Thoughts?

Oversharpened, soft/blurry, grainy, quality.

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 143):
Screeners - do you buy the white balance on these shots? Camera setting was AWB of course, which I use 90% of the time. The sunrise was very unusual. All shots are from the same morning.

I think it should be okay - I've seen some even more unusual coloured photos accepted in very late afternoon sunlight that did look even more bizarre. I won't link the particular photo I'm thinking of though (it'd be rude to do so). Watch the level on the 757 as well, it looks like it needs CCW rotation.


Now, I need some help. This was rejected - dark and contrast (personal: very harsh contrast):

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20080903_DSC_0465VHEBE080802.jpg

I've done another edit (see below). Is this better?

http://www.racerplanet.com/photoplog/images/2082/1_DSC_0465VHEBE080802_3.jpg

This one, I just sharpened - no other editing. I was a little bit surprised by this rejection because I didn't think the image was very dark at all.

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