Pre-Screening Thread No. 3

flynavy · Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:29 am

Topic is self-explanatory.

What do you all think of this shot under the new rules?

Also, are crops like this acceptable now?

Thanks,
Chris

[Edited 2008-08-25 22:39:27]

othic · Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:22 am

how about this one?

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s5aafogz8.jpg

boeingfreak · Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:01 am

Hi Chris,
just my opinion: Both are nice pics and if they were mine I'd upload them. If they get in, great, if not, well then upload to ATI and make money

@Othic: I'd resize it down to 1024 or 1000 pix, quality just isn't there to upload it at 1200.

Cheers,
Florian

EDIT: Forgot to ask: What about this one now, acceptable under the new creativity rules?

Big version: Width: 500 Height: 333 File size: 183kb

[Edited 2008-08-26 02:02:17]

timdegroot · Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:53 am

Quoting Flynavy (Thread starter):
What do you all think of this shot under the new rules?

I like both

Quoting Othic (Reply 1):
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s5aafogz8.jpg

looks good

timdegroot · Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:06 am

Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 2):
EDIT: Forgot to ask: What about this one now, acceptable under the new creativity rules?

I like it.

pre-screening makes difficult in these cases though as images are going t be discussed by more people. All I can do is say whether I personally would find them acceptable or not.

Tim

mnazarinia · Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:06 pm

Dear All,

Can I get your opinions on this shot please?
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/middle/ready/IMG_7609_ver1.jpg

Thanks,
Mehdi.

deaphen · Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:45 pm

Opinions?

a tad bit grainy?

Nitin

flynavy · Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:28 pm

Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 2):

I sure hope so - that shot is awesome!

EZEIZA · Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:42 pm

These shots are awesome bigthumbsup

That's what this new rule should be about

boeingfreak · Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:45 pm

Thanks for your nice words, Chris and thank you also for your opinion, Tim! I'll upload it and see what happens! Smile

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 6):
Opinions?

Woooow, one hell of a great pic! I'd add some cw rotation though...

ANITIX87 · Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:50 pm

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 5):
Can I get your opinions on this shot please?

Way too small. We need to see the full-size uploaded image (at least 1024 pixels across, and maximum 1600).

TIS

flynavy · Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:22 pm

What do you all think of this simulator shot I dug up? Took it last year...

As well as this shot of B-HUL. Thoughts?

[Edited 2008-08-26 14:31:17]

jgr · Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:15 pm

Hi Medhi,

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 5):

Can I get your opinions on this shot please?
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/m...1.jpg

On the small photo you show us I think A/C is not centered (a bit low in frame) and picture is a bit dark : only my opinion !

Regards,
Javier

flynavy · Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:22 pm

How's this for being creative?

jgr · Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:29 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 13):
How's this for being creative?

Wow ! 100% creative

Javier Wink

ANITIX87 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:23 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 11):
As well as this shot of B-HUL. Thoughts?

Maybe a bit more contrast. Looks a little flat. Nose may also be a tad soft.

TIS

NIKV69 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:13 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 13):
How's this for being creative?

You nailed it Chris! I would upload.

flynavy · Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:15 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 15):

How's this? Kicked up the contrast a few clicks...

damien846 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:00 am

To Hell with my acceptance ratio, i have taken the risk and added these 4 shots to the queue all hopefully creative!!!!
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/gearup.jpg
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/scarytow2.jpg
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/f2airliners.jpg
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/smokin1.jpg
Cheers
Damien

jgr · Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:24 am

Kinda shots Damien !
Javier

EMA747 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:36 pm

Can you guys please give me some opinions on these two?

Thanks.

Andy S

airkas1 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:07 pm

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 20):
Can you guys please give me some opinions on these two?

1: Level (bigtime) and it seems a bit darkish
2: Motive (catering truck & loading device)

EMA747 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:45 pm

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 21):

Thanks for the reply.

The first one was kind of in the shaddow of the viewing deck so I though it might be a bit too dark.

No chance for the second one then?

Is the sharpening ok? This is one of the main things I want to know as I am on a new laptop.

Andy S

Chamer · Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:07 pm

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/CM140708078.jpg

First time posting, have this one in the que at the moment. I have never had a picture accepted and have a crappy 4M camera. I have had many problem. My first uploads where very bad and my PS skill have improved since the start. I would be delighted to hear some view as the e-mails from the screeners tend to be brief sometimes leaving me confused. Will have new camera soon Sony A200 which hopefully will improve my sucess rate.

FYODOR · Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:09 pm

Hi folks,

Is that kind of shots are accaptable for the new creative rules?

Permission from people is granted indeed.

Your advises are very welcome!

Regards,

Fyodor

TupolevTu154 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:21 pm

Quoting FYODOR (Reply 24):

It looks like you've used alot of shadow/highlight in that shot!

Quoting Chamer (Reply 23):

Not bad at all for a newbie! You have exactly the right idea, but the photograph lacks sufficient quality.

As for me:

Tom

flynavy · Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:29 pm

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 13):

The thing is - I'm not sure that flight simulators are acceptable here. I emailed the screeners about this but as yet have received no response.

aadc10137 · Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:32 pm

Hey Guys,
I haven't had a need to use the pre-screen thread for a while, but I need opinions on this airport overview as it is my first one. It is showing the new runway at ORD. Any critiques would be helpful..Thanks!!

Andy

[Edited 2008-08-27 14:46:13]

mnazarinia · Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:00 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 10):

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 5):
Can I get your opinions on this shot please?

Way too small. We need to see the full-size uploaded image (at least 1024 pixels across, and maximum 1600).

TIS

Oh sorry here is the maximum res I have uploaded:
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_7609_ver1.jpg

Thanks,
Mehdi.

andrewC75 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:22 am

OK... I've finally bitten the bullet and started editing on a half decent monitor, and I've also gone back and looked at the suggested workflow and tried to adhere more strictly to it. Let's see how I did with some reprocessing:

Previously rejected for soft:

Previously rejected for quality, contrast, level:
[removed from queue]

[Edited 2008-08-27 18:34:22]

flynavy · Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:25 am

Quoting AndrewC75 (Reply 29):

Andrew - any chance you could provide the originals? You have my email.

At first glance number 1 has some quality issues, slightly grainy.

No. 2 - is this the full size image? Looks a bit small.

andrewC75 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:26 am

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 28):

Oh sorry here is the maximum res I have uploaded:
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_7609_ver1.jpg

Unfortunately, this one doesn't have a chance. There's heat-haze around the wings, it's extremely grainy on the bottom, and it generally doesn't stand out from the background. On a sunny day, this photo might be salvageable.

flynavy · Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:29 am

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 28):

Challenging lighting conditions for sure - care to provide the original file? Can't really comment until we see the original.

andrewC75 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:31 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 30):

Andrew - any chance you could provide the originals? You have my email.

Headed your way shortly.

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 30):
No. 2 - is this the full size image? Looks a bit small.

Drat! I saved it at 800px for something else and accidentally uploaded that one. I'll have to re-upload.

mnazarinia · Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:24 am

Quoting AndrewC75 (Reply 31):

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 28):

Oh sorry here is the maximum res I have uploaded:
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_7609_ver1.jpg

Unfortunately, this one doesn't have a chance. There's heat-haze around the wings, it's extremely grainy on the bottom, and it generally doesn't stand out from the background. On a sunny day, this photo might be salvageable.

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 32):
Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 28):

Challenging lighting conditions for sure - care to provide the original file? Can't really comment until we see the original.

Thanks all for your comments, I know the weather was not good at that day, you know here is Winter in down under, Melbourne!
Definitely I am going to remove it from queue but BTW here is the original version:

Big version: Width: 3888 Height: 2592 File size: 1852kb

Cheers,
Mehdi.

ANITIX87 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:05 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 17):

How's this? Kicked up the contrast a few clicks...

Still needs a bit more. The tires should be almost black, unless there was a reflective object below that shot the sun up from underneath, but it doesn't look like there was.

Quoting Chamer (Reply 23):
First time posting, have this one in the que at the moment.

Sorry, it just doesn't have sufficient quality. The cockpit windows look a bit bizarre (heat haze?) and the shot would also need some CW rotation anyway. I think this shot is for your personal collection only, unfortunately.

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 25):
As for me:

I love the shot, but it's far too backlit. Try adding some "fill light" in photoshop or Lightroom, depending on which you use, but I think this shot may be a lost cause. It's very, very tough to get backlit shots accepted here. Mine, for example, was luck of the draw as I got a screener who liked it as much as I did.

Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 28):
Oh sorry here is the maximum res I have uploaded:

Link doesn't work.

Quoting AndrewC75 (Reply 29):

Previously rejected for soft:

Yes. I believe this shot was way too blurry to begin with and cannot be saved regardless of how much sharpening you apply. Personal collection, I'm afraid.

TIS

whappeh · Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:07 am

How is this for a creative shot? It was once rejected before for motive, but I gave it a new crop, and with the new rules, maybe it stands a chance.

mnazarinia · Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:07 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 35):
Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 28):
Oh sorry here is the maximum res I have uploaded:

Link doesn't work.

TupolevTu154 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:47 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 35):
I love the shot, but it's far too backlit. Try adding some "fill light" in photoshop or Lightroom, depending on which you use, but I think this shot may be a lost cause. It's very, very tough to get backlit shots accepted here. Mine, for example, was luck of the draw as I got a screener who liked it as much as I did.

That was my intention, to get a silhouette of the aircraft with just the burners showing.

Oh well, I think I'll leave it in there for now Smile

Tom

TupolevTu154 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:44 am

And another one from me;

(Click for the proper version)

Fire away!

Tom Big grin

jfktowerfan · Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:06 pm

"creative" or crap?

Corey

Jetfreak · Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:08 pm

Quoting JFKTOWERFAN (Reply 40):

It's a high quality shot, but I think it looks a bit weird that you don't see the other engine.

Regards,

Jetfreak

EZEIZA · Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:58 pm

Quoting JFKTOWERFAN (Reply 40):
"creative" or crap?

Not blurry enough duck

I think the quality is very nice to see, but as a person that likes to surf around enjoying aviation pictures, I personally don't like something that is so cut off.

regards Smile

NWA783 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:03 pm

I would have to agree with EZEIZA, in that there is so little of the plane showing. Maybe with more of the other wing it might stand a better chance.

- Josh -

FYODOR · Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:17 pm

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 25):
It looks like you've used alot of shadow/highlight in that shot!

Not realy. I used curves but such light is the result of 1/1 flash.

deradere · Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:48 pm

Hi a.netters,

is it wrong to crop like that? (I thought the window frame is not much of interest but I wanted to leave it in to give it more of a "sitting in a B744" feeling.)

What do you think?

I guess I screwed up because after leveling I can't manage to keep the whole frame line in crop (well at least not in 3:4 ratio, and as I understand there is no way... or other more suitable formats I could use.)

Lars

iamlucky13 · Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:28 pm

Rats...second rejection on this one. First time was "quality, soft." This time just "soft."

I think I improved it greatly after the first, almost unedited submission, and now I'm unsure which parts are too soft. It looks like just a bit over the nose, and of course the background, which is natural since it's outside the depth of focus and I was panning.

Any suggestions how to improve it? Much more sharpening and it will start showing jaggies and look artificial.

Might it be worth an appeal, especially since there's only 1 picture in the DB of this aircraft actually in flight? Or maybe a screener mistook the blurry light pole behind the cockpit as part of the aircraft?

braby · Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:10 am

Can i get some opions on whether this shot would make the grade?

Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 800 File size: 802kb

Regards
Braby

Jetfreak · Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:47 am

Quoting Braby (Reply 47):

i think it's a bit underexposed, but i'm not really sure about that.

Regards,
Jetfreak

acontador · Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:52 pm

Hi,

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 39):
And another one from me;

An interesting picture, but quality is really on the edge here, and in the end, by fully including the rotor blades, the helo itself becomes rather distant.

Quoting JFKTOWERFAN (Reply 40):
"creative" or crap?

Crap crop, crap light, crap quality - you choose...

Quoting Deradere (Reply 45):
is it wrong to crop like that?

Yes. For such a shot to get in, you'll need the full window frame visible, no reflections (you have a lot), much higher quality and hopefully something more interesting to see that a big wing and some blue sky Wink

.

Quoting Iamlucky13 (Reply 46):
Any suggestions how to improve it?

Not worth an appeal right now, but nothing more needed but a few minutes of careful selective sharpening being applied to the softer areas.

Quoting Braby (Reply 47):
Can i get some opinions on whether this shot would make the grade?

It won't - would be rejected for soft and contrast.

I think that was 'short and sweet' enough devil

.

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