Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

sovietjet · Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:51 pm

I'm debating on whether I should upload this one.

This was shot during heavy rain. The "noise" you see is actually rain and I thought it was a cool effect to see. All that "condensation around the wings/tail is water and not vapor/clouds/etc...

What do you think?

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 161kb

varig767 · Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:08 pm

Hello all !

Two years ago, I gave up uploading to airliners.net; I couldn't get up with the good work with my point-and-shoot dimage z3. This summer I bought a Sony Alpha 200 and I am looking forward to your opinions. The pics below are shot in RAW, so I think I should be able to do some pre-processing if the pics are too dark / bright or so. Am I on the right way back???

Kind regards, Martijn

whappeh · Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:15 pm

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 45):
OK, Next try:
Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1067 File size: 651kb

Pretty good motive and a nice line up, but will still get rejected for quality.

deaphen · Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:25 pm

Is this a motive reject?

sovietjet · Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:18 pm

Quoting Varig767 (Reply 51):

Those look good to me if they aren't even processed yet. I'm 99% sure they'll get in after some editing.

sovietjet · Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:41 pm

I have a second photo which I'm having doubts about. This was taken at sunset with a low sun, I'm wondering if the colors and contrast seem OK.

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varig767 · Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:53 pm

I enhanced my 'long-shutter-speed' KLM 737; what do you think of the picture?

kind regards, Martijn

mjgbtv · Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:04 am

Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 50):
What do you think?

Cool indeed! My worry, though, would be that the effect of the rain just looks too much like everyday graininess.

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 53):
Is this a motive reject?

Looks like a good motive to me.

Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 55):
I have a second photo which I'm having doubts about. This was taken at sunset with a low sun, I'm wondering if the colors and contrast seem OK.

I think so. The light in the port engine is a nice touch.

Marty

iamlucky13 · Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:48 am

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 53):
Is this a motive reject?

I sure hope not! That's really nice in my opinion.

swiftski · Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:16 am

Can we have it so that you don't post a question about your own picture without first commenting (at least) on the previous picture?

TupolevTu154 · Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:51 pm

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 59):
Can we have it so that you don't post a question about your own picture without first commenting (at least) on the previous picture?

In theory, it would work. But there are plenty of people here that are asking about their shots, which may be flawed. If they can't find problems with their own pictures they certainly aren't going to find flaws in someone elses.

Quoting Varig767 (Reply 51):

The first one would probably be a winner with some colour and brightness adjustments. The KLM 737, although a brilliant panning shot, I think is a little too blurry, backlit and the colour's a bit off.

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 53):

Very nice shot, I personally would include the whole SkyTeam logo, though.

Tom Big grin

swiftski · Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:09 pm

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 60):
But there are plenty of people here that are asking about their shots, which may be flawed. If they can't find problems with their own pictures they certainly aren't going to find flaws in someone elses.

I think it's often a lot easier to find flaws with others shots as you can disconnect from the personal side of the picture.

airkas1 · Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:48 pm

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 17):
IMHO, the second one is an awful crop. I like the first one, but I'd prefer it at 3:2 rather than 4:3.

Thanks. A 3:2 version will look like this (more empty space on both sides):

(sorry for the late reply btw)

Another one though, was rejected a while ago for motive, with a personal note saying "bad crop". Is it really that bad?

Thanks,

Kas

thetford569 · Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:54 pm

Here are a couple of photos I would like to submit but I'm not too shure about:

http://www.3alarmmedia.com/anet/82-0034-f15c-eg-58fs-2.jpg

http://www.3alarmmedia.com/anet/82-0034-f15c-eg-58fs-3.jpg

Thanks!

Brandon

ANITIX87 · Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:21 pm

Quoting Thetford569 (Reply 63):
Here are a couple of photos I would like to submit but I'm not too shure about:

I'd go for the first one (you can't upload both since they're the same aircraft). However, you should add some contrast and crop much tighter to the aircraft.

TIS

mjgbtv · Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:28 am

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 62):
Another one though, was rejected a while ago for motive, with a personal note saying "bad crop". Is it really that bad?

Kas,

I would consider cropping wide enough to at least include all of the landing gear. As it is there just seem to be too many cut-off parts.

Marty

dwitty · Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:17 am

I captured this Southwest beauty landing at SNA. The levels are slightly adjusted, and I sharpened it up just a tad. Anything else I can do that might improve the chances of it being accepted (or is it even worthy of being submitted)?

Thank you in advance for any comments!

whappeh · Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:54 am

Quoting Dwitty (Reply 66):
I captured this Southwest beauty landing at SNA. The levels are slightly adjusted, and I sharpened it up just a tad. Anything else I can do that might improve the chances of it being accepted (or is it even worthy of being submitted)?

Thank you in advance for any comments!

Lower the size from 1600 to 1024. Also, make sure your aspect ratios are acceptable (4:3 or 3:2). Do those and I'd upload if it was my shot.

thetford569 · Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:00 pm

Quoting Mjgbtv (Reply 65):

thanks! I thought the first was better. I wish I could get the other one sharper without adding so much noise but I just needed a longer lens. I'll crop more on the first one. I left it like that because I didn't want to crop so much of the afterburners out but for airliners I know you need a tight crop so I'll do it on that one.

Brandon

bottie · Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:17 pm

a few months since I've been uploading again:

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/VT-JWE-EBBR-15092008.jpg

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/HA-LOE-EBBR-15092008.jpg

Lanas · Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:10 pm

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 53):
Is this a motive reject?

No, very good one! Smile

I don´t know why I´d maybe try framing the nose and engine a bit higher.

Quoting Bottie (Reply 69):
a few months since I've been uploading again:

Can´t comment on quality right now but:

Jet: Centering´s off. You should put the aircraft higher in the frame. Also, the crop is too tight on the engine on the right.
This pic needs a bit of CCW rotation as well.

Malev: Centering is a bit more balanced here, but I don´t know how screeners will take it.

Cheers! thumbsup

Lanas.-

JakTrax · Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:38 pm

Hi all,

How's this one? Quite rare I believe, and in the queue now.

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I've ticked it as a business jet but I'm really not sure - will that be OK?

Cheers,

Karl

mjgbtv · Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:23 pm

Hi Karl,

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 71):
How's this one?

The red door outline looks just a bit jagged to me.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 71):
I've ticked it as a business jet but I'm really not sure

Maybe government?

Marty

TransIsland · Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:40 pm

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 71):
How's this one? Quite rare I believe, and in the queue now.

Could use a kick more contrast.

jobu7282 · Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:47 pm

Big version: Width: 1100 Height: 733 File size: 437kb

Big version: Width: 1100 Height: 733 File size: 328kb

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JakTrax · Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:23 pm

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 46):
Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 45):

If that is your final edit, there's no chance. Re-size to 1024x683 and it should make a difference. An impressive lineup!

An impressive line-up indeed but a clearly unlevel one.

Level, re-crop then resize to 1024x683.

Karl

airkas1 · Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:00 pm

Quoting Mjgbtv (Reply 65):
I would consider cropping wide enough to at least include all of the landing gear. As it is there just seem to be too many cut-off parts.

Thanks Marty. In my opinion in doesn't look as good as the closer crop, but there's a version with the complete gear in the Q.

withak · Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:22 pm

Quoting Jobu7282 (Reply 74):

They all look good to me (mind you I'm working off the laptop.) The only thing I can see is perhaps the third shot needs a little bit of clockwise rotation. At first glace I felt the shot was leaning a bit to the left.

Now my turn. I'm just not sure on these two.

Kris

sluger020889 · Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:13 pm

So what's the ruling on a crooked horizon shot while in a turn?

(Please excuse the border and size)

Joey

wilco737 · Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Quoting Sluger020889 (Reply 78):

Eiher it's me or something is wrong with the link, doesn't work for me.

WILCO737 (MD11F)
airplane

TransIsland · Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:26 am

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 79):

Link doesn't work for me either.

michlis · Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:30 am

Some input on FRED?

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/87-0038_1_mjl.jpg

whappeh · Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:45 am

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 79):

Eiher it's me or something is wrong with the link, doesn't work for me.

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 80):
Link doesn't work for me either.

Drag and drop the link into the address bar.

iamlucky13 · Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:57 am

Quoting Michlis (Reply 81):
Some input on FRED?

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...l.jpg

The upper side could stand to be a little less bright. There's some sharpening noise on the underside and jaggies on the starboard trailing edges, but I don't know if it's enough to bother fixing.

I like how you caught it as the landing gear was rotated to retract, but that watermark location covers the best feature of the picture in my opinion.

sluger020889 · Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:59 pm

huh, the picture was there when i posted the message...owell.

Try this...

http://www.pbase.com/sluger020889/image/103273449

Again, I'm just wondering about the horizon, please excuse the size and the border.

Joey

Jetfreak · Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:09 pm

Quoting Sluger020889 (Reply 84):

it's a bit too small to see better if it's good enough, but it doesn't look bad. it maybe is too dark, but as i said, it's too small for me to be sure.

Regards,

Bernhard

withak · Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:32 pm

Sorry to post again but the photos I posted previously are only 800px wide for whatever reason. Here they are at their proper size (I hope.)

Also I put this one in the queue. Should I leave it there?

Any help as always would be much appreciated.

Kris

jobu7282 · Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:25 pm

Here is another one

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eyes2thesky · Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:31 am

This has basically no editing, except for a resolution downsize. I think this can be sharpened nicely. But I don't have a good feel for how the colors, contrast, exposure should be changed:

https://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...d=536926391&filename=php39zzVR.jpg

Dreamliner84 · Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:05 am

I reuploaded my Beluga's shot after having increased the contrast to make it darker like the screener suggested me to do after his rejection.

Here's the first version initially rejected by the screener for "contrast" reason:

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...080917_Anet_TRN08092008_F-GSTB.jpg

Instead here there's the one I uploaded in queue yesterday:

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/TRN08092008_F-GSTB_2.jpg

Well... how's the second one in your opinion?? Is it better than the first one?? Could it be acceptable now??

All your comments'll be appreciated!!!

BTW - I decided to write this message also in this topic because it's a pre and post-screening one at the same time...

Andy.

[Edited 2008-09-19 01:08:47]

wilco737 · Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:24 pm

Hi guys,

2 in the queue. Back from 2005. Do they stand any chance?

Any comment appreciated.

WILCO737 (MD11F)
airplane

Dreamliner84 · Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:35 pm

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 90):
2 in the queue. Back from 2005. Do they stand any chance?

You shouln't have any problems for their acceptance I think!!! Wink

What do you think about the one of the Beluga I reuploaded and linked to you in reply#89?

Regards!!! Smile

Andrea.

wilco737 · Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:37 pm

Quoting Dreamliner84 (Reply 91):
You shouln't have any problems for their acceptance I think!!! Wink

I'm not so sure Wink

But thanks.

Quoting Dreamliner84 (Reply 91):
What do you think about the one of the Beluga I reuploaded and linked to you in reply#89?

I am no expert. But it looks to me if it could need a tad more contrast. You see it on the fuselage. But that's just my opinion.

WILCO737 (MD11F)
airplane

michlis · Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:18 pm

Quoting Iamlucky13 (Reply 83):
I like how you caught it as the landing gear was rotated to retract, but that watermark location covers the best feature of the picture in my opinion.

Good point. If it makes the cut I'll re-submit the photo with the watermark positioned not to cover the landing gear.

varig767 · Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:45 pm

Hello all !

Got this one rejected for 'colour' and 'dark' (as you predicted Tom...).

Now, I modified the RAW-file; I changed the white balance to 'daylight' (Sony Alpha 200) and I set EV to 0 (was -0.33). I am looking forward to your comments at these corrections.

mjgbtv · Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:02 am

Hi,

Is there any chance for this one? Is the fuselage too blown out? Other problems?

Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 900 File size: 303kb

Thanks,

Marty

ranger703 · Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:40 pm

Hi,

My previous upload of this shot was eventually, after much consideration and a final viewing by the headscreeners, rejected for dark. This is a slightly different approach although the image is basically the same. I have increased the brightness around the approach lights and the image overall. It is currently sat in the queue awaiting screening but would appreciate comments as to whether it has a better chance this time.

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/BXETNET270308.jpg

Regards

Andy

UnitedJumboJet · Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:09 am

Any opinions for this one?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2876562387/sizes/l/

mjgbtv · Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:55 am

Quoting Ranger703 (Reply 96):
would appreciate comments as to whether it has a better chance this time.

Hi Andy,

I think it's a great shot; I would like it even without the lights from the plane. The lighting looks about right to me. I would leave it in the queue if it was mine, especially since you apparently cleared the motive hurdle with the first attempt.

What airport is this? Interesting approach lights!

Marty

whappeh · Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:25 pm

The impossible photo!

Someone help me level this, please:

According to the cone and the white piling, this is a level photograph, however, the wings (Aircraft is slightly damaged, somehow) and the grass slope suggest otherwise. The fence in the background was damaged from a hurricane, and so the posts lean is all different directions, and is not a good indication:

(image shown is not full res, because full res was too large to upload, however image is uncroped and untouched otherwise)

[Edited 2008-09-22 07:30:31]

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