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The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:22 am

Hello everyone,


It has been a bit more than 8 months since I have a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM Lens . I have used it for spotting using a 1.4x converter and it gives me really great results. Still have to find time to edit those pics and upload them.
Otherwise I have extensively used this lens for concert photography and for portraits.
All I can say is that the price I paid has definitely been worth it. Its hard to find fast telezoom lenses which give that quality of an image! I have the impression that it can be used for many situations unlike the canon 100-400mm which is good for spotting but less good for lower light situations.

Does anyone here also own one of these lenses ? What is your opinion ?



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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:28 am



Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
Does anyone here also own one of these lenses ? What is your opinion ?

I mostly use the 100-400mm from Canon. And it is great. I love it, great shots, amazing quality. I am very happy that I bought it.

You are right though about the light. During low light it is struggling a bit, but with the IS it is fine.
I never tried the 70-200, but I heard a lot of good things about it. But for me the 400mm is the more important thing as I need the max zoom Big grin

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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:10 am

I had a 75-300 USM, I always struggled with quality and had alot of rejections for 'soft'.
My friend a fellow A.net photographer Karl Nixon talked me into 70-200 F4 L and WOW!! what a difference to my work. Lots of acceptances, its a nice light weight lens and perfect for every airfield I've visited so far, sometimes I think what difference a 100-400 would've been, But as far as i'm concerned the 70-200 is a great all-rounder  Smile
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:44 pm

This is a lense that according to most experts should be in everybody's bag. Sharpness, range, and speed that everybody can use, and as well built as anything out there. Quite possibly THE best all around lense for any Canon SLR. It can make average photogs like me look like a hero!
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:31 pm

I have both the 100-400L and the 70-200 f4L IS, the 100-400 is good if not real good in most situations, but the 70-200 is absolutely incredible. The sharpness of this lens is awesome. If I could get away with it, the 70-200 would never come off the camera! In some of the photography forums I have read, some of the experts seem to agree the f4 outperforms the 2.8 70-200. The only downside is the f4 does not come with a tripod ring, and since I do alot of night shooting I had to purchase one at about 150.00. Not sure why Canon does not include it, and just raise the price accordingly.

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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:44 pm

I've got both the 100-400 and the 70-200 F/2.8 IS and for the spotting I do the 100-400 is great. I've tried the 70-200 a few times and because it's not got the same reach and I had to crop a lot more. With the 100-400 I fill a lot more of the frame and get better detail.

Of course inside of 200mm the 70-200 would beat the 100-400 but, most of my shots are at more than 200mm
 
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:54 pm



Quoting Andrew50 (Reply 4):
and the 70-200 f4L IS



Quoting Andrew50 (Reply 4):
but the 70-200 is absolutely incredible. The sharpness of this lens is awesome.

+1

I keep getting amazed with how sharp the shots I take with my 70-200 f4 IS are and how good the IS is on it. It's prime-sharp. It works very well with the 1.4x extender too.

BTW, there are rumors that Canon will be announcing a 70-200 f/2.8 IS II soon.

http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/07/70-200-f2-8l-is-ii-in-september/

As with eveything on CR, take it with a big grain of salt!

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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:55 pm

If the OP had asked the best lens then I would've said the 100-400mm for its versitality alone. I'm loving the mid-ranged 24-105mm though, which has proved a real gap filler for me.
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:28 am

I believe most of you guys are talking about spotting lenses, but I'm going to go just slightly off topic.

When I had Canon gear, one friend of mine told me to get a 50mm f/1.8. He let me use one for a while and I was impressed by the way those 50mm seem to be very much the same as your "view".

I bought one after that, have to say that I was really impressed that the piece of lens was just $80 or something, quite cheap, but the quality of the pictures it delivers makes it at least for me the best Canon lens I've used. It is an incredible combination of price, quality and image detail (also that f/1.8 comes handy). I've used the 70-200 f/2.8 IS and the 100-400 also, both are great lenses for sure, awesome for spotting.

Never got the chance of using a 300mm prime, or a 500mm prime, but I surely imagine that those lenses are just mind blowing!

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Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:31 am

Yeah, I second the good review of the "nifty fifty" 50mm F/1.8. I love taking pictures of my 20 month old daughter with it. It also scares her less then the big white thing.
 
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:05 pm



Quoting Andrew50 (Reply 4):
tripod ring, and since I do alot of night shooting I had to purchase one at about 150.00.

This one area where I don't mind buying 3rd party stuff. I have the 70-200 F4L IS and agree with the posters above that it is marvellous. I bought the ring for EUR15 from ebay and it works fine.

I also have an 50mm f1.8 and although I don't use it much, it is a funny little lens that can do great things for the price.
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Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:49 am

I was asked once, if I can only take one lens with me what would it be, and every time its the 70-200/2.8 LIS. Its a cracking lens though I am getting very used to my 300/2.8. Man that is one sweet lens!!!!

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Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:16 pm

I have the 70-200 f/4L (non-IS). Love every thing about it. If I would have had the money I would have gotten the f/4L IS.

Upgrading from a $120 Tamron 75-300 which was horrendous to L glass was a great feeling. I need to buy the 1.4x though. Big grin
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Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:51 pm

I'm loving my 85mm too, not so much for aviation purposes but for portrait work, wow!! The bokeh is amazing!
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:48 pm



Quoting Spencer (Reply 13):
I'm loving my 85mm too,

Is that the L or the 1.8?

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Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:05 pm



Quoting SNATH (Reply 14):
Is that the L or the 1.8?

Tone, that would be the cheaper of the two, ha ha. No, seriously though, I read up on the f/1.2 (?) and weighed up the pros/cons with how much it would've set me back and to be honest I'm happy with the choice I made. Although the L would certainly produce sharper images, the general concensus was that the f/1.8 was not far behind in terms of image quality. I would strongly recommend it if anyone else had to make the same choice I made. Only drawback is it doesn't quite look as good as the L, but then that thing is a mad looking beast at the best of times!!
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Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:14 pm

#1 Canon 70-200 L IS USM F2.8 Best lens and most flexible. Also a 1.4 extender can be added without a loss of quality.

#2 Canon 135 L F2.0 Best indoor sports lens i have ever come across. Fast,sharp and a joy to work with. Built like a tank. Hit by 2 Ice Hockey pucks at full force and it still works.

#3 Canon 400 L F5.6. The super tube is the best quality 400 mm lens i have come across at a resonable price.
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Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:32 pm



Quoting Spencer (Reply 15):
Tone, that would be the cheaper of the two, ha ha. No, seriously though, I read up on the f/1.2 (?) and weighed up the pros/cons with how much it would've set me back and to be honest I'm happy with the choice I made. Although the L would certainly produce sharper images, the general concensus was that the f/1.8 was not far behind in terms of image quality. I would strongly recommend it if anyone else had to make the same choice I made. Only drawback is it doesn't quite look as good as the L, but then that thing is a mad looking beast at the best of times!!
Spence.

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Yeah, I'm also looking at the 1.8 too. Sure, the 1.2 would be amazing, but I really cannot justify the price tag as I won't use it that much. I borrowed the 1.8 from a friend for a bit and I quite liked it. It is on my to-get list.

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Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:18 pm

Have used the 70-200 2.8L IS for just abouit a year now and I really love it. Bought a 1.4 extender in HK and that combo is really good and I got 2 images on here that I shot with that combo. Unfortunately I haven't been out spotting that much due to different reasons, but I have used it a lot shooting other stuff and it's superb!
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:33 pm

The 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS is nothing short of amazing and I've had great success with it in all areas of photography.

Recently, there was a thread on here with a debate about image stabilization and whether it was necessary. One guy was swearing up and down that it wasn't and was so certain he was right but, if I recall correctly, he didn't even have a lens with IS (so how would he know?). Well, if he wants to shoot during the daytime and outdoors exclusively, that might be fine for him. But for me, I like the additional flexibility that IS gives in low light.

For example, this shot was taken with the 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS without a tripod at 1/8 of a second exposure:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/3807705366_e2aa84d7be_b.jpg

I was shocked when seeing the exposure time on this afterward because I didn't realize it when shooting. The extra cost of the IS is worth every penny.
 
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:32 pm

Shouldn't the IS be turned off though if you're tripodded?
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:33 pm

My bad, thought you said you was on a tripod.....
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:07 pm



Quoting Spencer (Reply 13):
I'm loving my 85mm too, not so much for aviation purposes but for portrait work, wow!! The bokeh is amazing!



Quoting SNATH (Reply 17):
Yeah, I'm also looking at the 1.8 too.

There is a catch though if an amazing bokeh is required.
Great on a medium resolution APS/c
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/16...18-usm-test-report--review?start=2

One of the worst I've ever seen on a 15MP.
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/421-canon_85_18_50d?start=1

As always, a perfectly good lens on body A doesn't make it good for body B and this is a good example of that.
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:57 pm



Quoting Spencer (Reply 20):
Shouldn't the IS be turned off though if you're tripodded?

Not on the 70-200, it detects whether it is on a tripod.
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:34 pm

The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS is stupidly sharp... it is the sharpest zoom I've ever come across with! It is prime-sharp through the whole range of both focal lengths and apertures.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 23):
Not on the 70-200, it detects whether it is on a tripod.

Are you sure? AFAIK the 70-200s don't have tripod IS. My f/4L IS doesn't, at least... I have to turn the IS off so as not to mess the shots!
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:14 pm



Quoting NicolasRubio (Reply 24):
The Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS is stupidly sharp...

 Smile I second this.

Quoting NicolasRubio (Reply 24):
Are you sure? AFAIK the 70-200s don't have tripod IS. My f/4L IS doesn't, at least... I have to turn the IS off so as not to mess the shots!

I think it is. As Bryan says in his review page:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/

(sorry, the direct link to the review doesn't work...)

all latest versions of Canon's IS (I believe the 70-200 f4 IS has 3rd generation IS) should be tripod sensitive. Having said that, it's a good idea to turn it off (I do too), so that you do not unnecessarily drain your camera's battery.

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Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:29 pm

I have a Canon 28-300L IS USM and gives very good results. It's a real allrounder, and sometimes I think to heavy to take with me for a days spotting tour abroad. But when on holidays, this lens is supurb!
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:10 pm



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 26):
I have a Canon 28-300L IS USM and gives very good results.

That is THE lens for red carpet photographers! But as you said, it gets quite heavy sometimes! I tried it for some minutes only and I noticed how heavy it was!
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:35 am

Quoting SNATH (Reply 25):
so that you do not unnecessarily drain your camera's battery.

Does it really drain the battery that much? VR on my Nikon 200-400mm lens appears to have little or no effect on battery life when used in normal mode (11.1V 2500maH Nikon EN-EL4a battery). I've never tried active mode.

Someone above mention the Canon 400mm F/5.6L - having seen what that lens is capable of, I'm consistently suprised. Top quality for a very reasonable price.

I wish Nikon had something like that - but they sadly don't. Some of you might wonder why I care about anything Canon related - although I use Nikon most of the time, I also have a Canon SLR which I do still use sometimes.  Wink

[Edited 2009-08-17 17:47:19]
 
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:06 am

Hi folks,


Just got back from Scotland so I couldn't go on A.net all this time! I am happy to see people have positive experiences with the 70-200 8 L.

I have two questions
1) The 100-400mm uses the push pull system! Doesn't this system allow dust to get more easily in?

2) Is there loss of autofocus using a 2x converter on 100-400mm as its the case with the 70-200 ?


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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:16 am

BM, you don't lose AF with the 70-200 with the 2x extender, you lose sharpness and it can hunt a bit. You will have AF on lenses with an aperture of at least F4, anything over that you will lose it. So yes, putting a 1.4x or 2x on a 100-400 means loss of autufocus. And also an apperture of F9-11.2, so not ideal for anything but a bright sunny day.
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:50 am



Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 30):
you don't lose AF with the 70-200 with the 2x extender, you lose sharpness and it can hunt a bit. You will have AF on lenses with an aperture of at least F4

You need a F2.8 lens to keep AF with a 2xTC only a 1D series camera will keep AF with a F4 and 2xTC

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 29):
The 100-400mm uses the push pull system! Doesn't this system allow dust to get more easily in?

No it has to do with sealing or better the lack of it.
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Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:06 am



Quoting Aviopic (Reply 31):
You need a F2.8 lens to keep AF with a 2xTC only a 1D series camera will keep AF with a F4 and 2xTC

Thanks, now I have learned something today as well  Smile Good thing I bought the 2.8 then, not that I am planning on getting the 2x, but if...
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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:56 am



Quoting RootsAir (Reply 29):
1) The 100-400mm uses the push pull system! Doesn't this system allow dust to get more easily in?

Certainly, it works pretty much like an air pump.
The locking mechanism is the biggest wekness of the 100-400, it needs to be readjusted after some time of use and in the worst case it doesn't work at all...  Wow!  banghead 



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RE: The Best Canon Lens Imho!

Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:26 pm



Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 30):
So yes, putting a 1.4x or 2x on a 100-400 means loss of autufocus. And also an apperture of F9-11.2, so not ideal for anything but a bright sunny day.

That's the shameful thiong about extenders! Loss of aperture !

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 31):
You need a F2.8 lens to keep AF with a 2xTC only a 1D series camera will keep AF with a F4 and 2xTC

Didn't know that with a2.8 you could still have AF..interesting information

Quoting Whisperjet (Reply 33):
The locking mechanism is the biggest wekness of the 100-400, it needs to be readjusted after some time of use and in the worst case it doesn't work at all...

Hopw Canon will rectify that soon. Quite a lot of people seem to have problems with their 100-400


Thanks for your answers..always nice to know something new

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