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Canon Eos 550d

Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:52 am

I am going to buy a Canon EOS 550D + 18-55 IS & 55-250 IS any comments on this would be highly regarded. Thanks
 
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:18 am

Quoting shgeat (Thread starter):

What is your budget like? Could you afford to splash out on a little bit more for maybe the 70-300mm? Not saying that the 55-250mm is bad but the quality is better in more expensive lenses. And it also depends on where you are - I don't know where abouts you are so I can't really give anymore advice on if you might be better off with a little extra focal length. The camera is fine though, no problems there. You'll find that the lens will give you the quality of pictures, not particularly the body. Practicing with the gear is the most important and it might take a little while to get used to the optimal settings etc.
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:20 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
What is your budget like? Could you afford to splash out on a little bit more for maybe the 70-300mm? Not saying that the 55-250mm is bad but the quality is better in more expensive lenses.

I had the predecessor of the 55-250, and it was soft as hell. Switched to the 70-300, and that is much better, indeed, while not even being that more expensive.

I can only second what you said - skip the 55-250, and get the 70-300 mm instead.
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:07 pm

We are talking about the 70-300 IS , right?
 
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:23 pm

Quoting Columbia3 (Reply 3):
We are talking about the 70-300 IS , right?

I assume so. The only other 70-300s in the Canon line-up are the new L (only just announced and VERY expensive!) and the DO (also pretty expensive!). Many people confuse the 70-300 IS with the 75-300 range (which is pretty crappy!).

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:01 pm

I also would suggest going with the 70-300 IS (NOT to be confused with the rubbish 75-300). I have the 55-250 and while it is pretty cheap, the quality just isn't there and I kind of regret holding off and going for a 70-300. The 70-300 is marked improvement over the 55-250 in terms of image quality and sharpness (especially in the corners). They are both decently sharp in the dead center, but outside of that the 70-300 is an improvement. The extra reach of the 70-300 is nice, but it does get a bit soft at the 300 end as well. Plus the 70-300 is ultrasonic which makes for faster and quieter and more accurate autofocus so you wont have it focus hunting in the middle of a shot like the 55-250 tends to do at times.

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:08 am

Quoting Columbia3 (Reply 3):

Of course, no point in telling him to get a lens which isn't on the market yet! Also it'll be more expensive than the 70-200 L series. I've got the 70-300mm IS USM now but I'm waiting for the right time to get the 100-400mm.
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:09 am

Quoting shgeat (Thread starter):
I am going to buy a Canon EOS 550D + 18-55 IS & 55-250 IS any comments on this would be highly regarded.

If you're going to buy it, or already bought it, what is there for us to say? Good purchase/bad purchase?
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:15 am

To be precise, it's the Canon EF 70-300mm 1:4,0-5,6 IS USM:



I'd go as far as saying it is probably one of Canon's best non-L lenses.

Of course, the L series is again much better in quality, but I suppose the OP has a certain budget...  

I'm thinking about replacing the 70-300 with the EF 28-300 1:3.5-5.6 L IS USM one day, but I sure don't have the money right now...
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:45 am

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 8):
I'd go as far as saying it is probably one of Canon's best non-L lenses.

Well, for its range, yes. But it doesn't have any UD elements like the 10-22mm or 17-55mm have - both of which are excellent lenses and considered to be L-quality although they are EF-S.
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:54 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
Well, for its range, yes. But it doesn't have any UD elements like the 10-22mm or 17-55mm have - both of which are excellent lenses and considered to be L-quality although they are EF-S

The 70-300 IS has one UD element. And the two lenses you mention are perhaps on a par with some of the poorer-performing L lenses.

One of the best non-L lenses Canon do (did actually as it's discontinued) is the 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 USM II (not to be confused with the other, much cheaper versions). Very sharp, good colour/contrast and exceptionally good for a £300 lens. It's certainly not too far behind the much more expensive 24-105 L, although distortion is less well controlled.

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:15 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
Well, for its range, yes.

Right you are - I was indeed thinking about that range only.  
Quoting JakTrax (Reply 10):
One of the best non-L lenses Canon do (did actually as it's discontinued) is the 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 USM II (not to be confused with the other, much cheaper versions). Very sharp, good colour/contrast and exceptionally good for a £300 lens. It's certainly not too far behind the much more expensive 24-105 L, although distortion is less well controlled.

I heard the EF 17-85mm 1:4-5.6 IS USM is quite okay as well, and I am currently considering it as an addition to my 70-300 mm lens.
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:03 pm

Me on your side, would take the 70-200L 4 USM (without IS). It's a very sharp and famous lense. Why buy a lense for 400€ , when you can get a better one ((L) Lense) for just 100€ more?

Sure, 100€ is 100€, I know that very well, 'cause I'm a student and always take a look at my money.
Currently I've the 55-250IS and I already thought about the next lense too and finally as mentioned before I'll take the 70-200 even if I can afford it at least in a year  

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:14 pm

The 17-85 is apparently very good, however I wouldn't compare it to the L series in general. Sure, there are not-so-good L lenses but examples like the 70-200s are simply stunning.

The 75-300 f/4-5.6 USM III isn't great but it's pretty sharp up to about 200mm and costs significantly less than the 70-300 IS. You get what you pay for but some are happy with the results cheap(er) lenses offer.

A lens one person may be unhappy with may be fantastic to someone else. We see examples of this all the time here and it just goes to show that this forum isn't always 100% gospel.

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:25 pm

Just to get back on track and answer the OP's next question regarding the 1000D (from another thread which I imagine will soon be locked), it is a very capable and reasonably priced little camera. Gav Bowler uses one with the 70-300 IS lens - you can see his images here:

https://www.airliners.net/search/phot..._id+desc&page_limit=15&thumbnails=

It doesn't have a very fast buffer for RAW files but seeing as many people these days prefer to re-compose between shots (rather than simply hold 'rapid fire') that doesn't really matter too much. It does everything you need it to do and the image quality is very nice; if not a little processed.

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:54 pm

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 10):
The 70-300 IS has one UD element.

Oh, right. Thanks for that. Would you mind naming those 'poorer performing L lenses' for me? Cheers.

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 11):
I heard the EF 17-85mm 1:4-5.6 IS USM is quite okay as well, and I am currently considering it as an addition to my 70-300 mm lens.

My friend had one and it died on him. I can't remember what actually went wrong- whether the camera didn't accept it or the AF motor died or something.. But now that Canon has released the 15-85mm with the 7D, I think that this lens would be the nicer of the 2 to have.

Quoting Columbia3 (Reply 12):
Me on your side, would take the 70-200L 4 USM (without IS). It's a very sharp and famous lense. Why buy a lense for 400€ , when you can get a better one ((L) Lense) for just 100€ more?

Depends on if you need the extra focal length. I decided I needed 300mm so I stuck with getting the 70-300mm as a replacement for the Sigma one I owned (piece of crap!).
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:25 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 15):
But now that Canon has released the 15-85mm with the 7D, I think that this lens would be the nicer of the 2 to have.

Sorry - it was indeed the new 15-85 mm that I had in mind.
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:42 pm

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 16):
Sorry - it was indeed the new 15-85 mm that I had in mind

Yes, the new 15-85 is supposed to be very much up there.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 15):
Would you mind naming those 'poorer performing L lenses' for me?

The 17-40L springs to mind. Know a couple of people who had them and sent them straight back. Also the 28-300L is supposedly quite soft, but given the focal length range I reckon it kind of has an excuse.

Don't forget too that there are some very soft copies of the 100-400L out there.

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:01 pm

I'd have to disagree with Karl there, re the 17-40. It's a very capable lens and IQ is what I'd expect it to be. You also mentioned the 24-105L, surprisingly you didn't seem to give that much credit either? Do you own any of them Karl or are you just repeating something you overheard someone else say? Unless I have very good copies of these lenses, (doubtful really considering they ARE good lenses), then what are you actually saying?
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:05 pm

Quoting spencer (Reply 18):
You also mentioned the 24-105L, surprisingly you didn't seem to give that much credit either?

The 24-105L is my favorite lens in my bag.
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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:43 pm

The things I've heard about the 17-40 have come from various people. I guess there are bad copies but these folks certainly didn't rate it.

Here's what I said about the 24-105...

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 10):
It's certainly not too far behind the much more expensive 24-105 L, although distortion is less well controlled

How that can be construed as 'not giving it any credit' I don't know. Having used both the 28-105 USM II and the 24-105L my position is impartial. The 24-105 is of course better, but costs over three times as much. 'Better' becomes a different kettle of fish when/if price is factored in.

I maintain that some L series lenses are better than others.

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RE: Canon Eos 550d

Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:14 am

I can attest for the 550 (T2i),I have this and I love it.
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