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Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:35 pm

Alot of fairly average reviews of the 7D even though its specs sound fantastic. Do many on here use the 5DMk2 and what are their thoughts ? I realise the shooting speed is down at 3fps plus less focus points and metering zones but full frame sensor and get very good reviews.

Any thoughts ??
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:17 pm

The 7D has better auto focus and faster fps but the image quality of the 5D2 is amazing, much much better than the 7D. My dream camera, and the one I'm waiting for, is a 5D2 with the auto focus and speed of a 7D, that's the "special one"  

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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:31 pm

Its already out its called the 1DsMK3...the "special one".. 
And it comes with better weather proofing better build and a far bigger price..
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:34 pm

Given the 5DMkii was introduced in 2008 and an upgrade of that spec puts it into 1D territory,do you think Canon will ever make such an upgrade. Great if they did but unlikely ?

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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:40 pm

From what i have heard the 1DsMK4 should be out in around 7-8 months...32-34MP 5fps...oh and the image quality of the 7D was discussed here recently and its far better than people who have not used one imagine.
7D has been subject to one of the better pixel peeping campaigns ive seen..
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:56 pm

The price of the 1DsMK3 makes it the "forbidden one" for me  

I've compared RAW files of both the 7D and 5D2 in more or less similar conditions, the lack of noise and image quality of the 5D2 leaves me astonished, and I can make crops with the 5D2 files that are not possible with the 7D due to the noise.

Luis
P.S. I'm looking for a replacement to my 30D so I'm also interested in this subject.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:14 pm

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 4):
the image quality of the 7D was discussed here recently and its far better than people who have not used one imagine.

Rather than rely on anecdotal comments we can look at scientific results to see that the 7D sensor is, at best, "average."

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/Sensor-rankings

With a score of 66 the 7D is on par with the 550D, Sony Alpha 450, the Pentax K10D. Not horrible, but there are better choices out there, the 5DM1 "scores" a 71, the 5DM2 a 79, and the highest scored DSLR, the Nikon D3X, at 88.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:27 pm

Comparing full-frame to FOVCF seems pointless to me as they work differently and therefore the whole argument depends on one's preferences. It's like asking which is better - a Ferrari or an Audi? Depends on what you want to do.....

'Bigger' doesn't always mean 'better' in the eyes of the beholder.

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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:24 pm

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 7):
which is better - a Ferrari or an Audi?

No doubt the Ferrari!

For me, if I switched to FF I would have to carefully look if I can reach my object with my normal 70-200 and occasional 1.4x converter. Because if my focal length required a change do to no crop factor, then it would be way to expensive for me to upgrade Body and Lens.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:39 pm

Quoting rtl (Thread starter):
Do many on here use the 5DMk2 and what are their thoughts ?

I've seen what the 5D2 is capable of (we have a few of those and a couple of EOS-1 at work) and would highly recommend it - despite the face that it is quite slow.

For that kind of wonderful image quality you'll put up with a little bit of slowness and learn to selectively choose your times to hit the shutter button rather than blasting away machine gun style.

[Edited 2010-09-26 16:39:24]

[Edited 2010-09-26 16:40:07]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:38 am

I'm stuck with the same decision. However, aviation photography isn't weighing into the decision as much as it used to. So it's a tough one...because if I do go for the 7D, ever saving up again for the 5Dmk2 will be out of the question really...
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:55 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 6):
Rather than rely on anecdotal comments we can look at scientific results to see that the 7D sensor is, at best, "average."

I think its already been proven that DXO's testing methods at best are average.
Again testing at 100% for ANY camera and then comparing against any other is dubious at best.
Based off DXO the D700 has the would seem to have the same sensor rating as a 1dsMK3..lol!
I mean one camera creates prints 50% bigger than of the other they have the same effective noise to signal ratio and they are rated the same!!!
Just imagine in the real world(yea scary concept using real world ideas with testing methodology) two photoogs shooting the same scene one with a D700 one with a 1DsMK3.
Mmm one dude gets a print 50% larger than the other same noise generation etc. So when the D700 dude wants to deliver a print to his client guess who's comparing it against the 1DsMK3 print to determine which is the higher quality the D700 doesnt stand a chance. If you shrink the 1DsMK3 print to D700 output size its noise disappears leaving a far cleaner print if you increase the size of the D700 print to match the 1DsMK3 it loses detail.
1DsMK3 wins every time.
If you cant see how bad comparing DXO ratings are( and any other 100% comparison) after that then you really need to do more research before sprooking DXO as the be all of camera comparisons as many people have proved they are far from accurate at many levels.
Compare ANY and i mean ANY print or web image of ANY resolution from a D700 against a 1DsMK3 and the 1DsMK3 wins EVERY time..every time.
The only "fair" comparison is usage size or equivalent print size end of story...and in that the 7D and any other crop camera does considerably better.
I mean the 7D creates an image at 300DPI just over 17" across the d700 just over 14...so by the time you blow up the D700 image to match the 7D you lose detail lose quality and all of a sudden its a far closer race.
The sooner the "myths" DXO generate about sensor quality go the sooner we will get far more "balanced" reviews for all camera's.

[Edited 2010-09-26 18:58:01]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:39 am

Darren - you make some great points  

My guess is the average DSLR isn't worried about absolute print size, but, if they are, obviously bigger is better.

I've printed to 24" om my D700 and the shots have lots of detail. I've never had the pleasure of seeing large output from a 1DsM3, but there is a photog here in Seattle that shoots with one. He hasn't mentioned stunning print quality, but he has mentioned how the autofocus tends not to work in the heat   Maybe he is reading this and can chime in.

Anyways - I am sure the 7D is a stallion.

Cheers

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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:55 am

G'day Royal
No worries..funny about the heat thing i was at an airshow here in Australia just over a week ago and a good friend shooting with a D3X had the same drama with fail to lock on the F111 last Aussie airshow dump and burn.
To say he wasn't happy was an understatement..luckily he had time to pick up his D3s so didnt miss out entirely.
Im sure you get some awesome prints from the D700 its an excellent camera..D7000 looks great to..thinking we are all spoiled for choice these days.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:20 am

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 13):
shooting with a D3X had the same drama with fail to lock on the F111 last Aussie airshow dump and burn.

I had exactly the same problem using D700 (I was also there - keeping a low profile). I missed the shot that I desperately wanted, the F111 pitch up from the touch and go and then dump-and-burn the fuel. Autofocus just got confused. I did get the shots seconds later as it continued to climb and turn to the right, with a massive blast of fire out the back.

The AF issues for me were not ambient heat related though (it was a fairly mild day to be honest) - just a difficult scene to resolve. I've used the camera in much hotter conditions than that at other airshows with no bother. The light was also less than ideal - it was always at the wrong angle leaving you with semi-backlit photos for some angles.

The rest of my images turned out as I wanted - though I do really wish Nikon had something like an 800mm lens. The only really big lens we have is a 1200-1700mm, and there is no way you'll use that at airshows - it's huge (not to mention rare and expensive). Sometimes I struggled for range for the images I wanted to get.

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 13):
D7000 looks great to..thinking we are all spoiled for choice these days.

It almost looks like a D300s killer. It's not quite as fast, but in other respects - seems really good for the money. I'm going to trade-in the D700 for a D3s sooner or later - the prices at the moment have quite some padding in them. I have no need for a D3x - I want a fast camera and don't need 24.5mp.

[Edited 2010-09-26 20:37:10]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:43 am

Hey Chris where you there Sat or Sun or both?
We did both days in the central media area Sat and then Jon Absalon an ex Mirage/Hornet driver organized us a spot down at the aircraft shelters on the Sunday which worked out fantastically.
Had a great few days and a great farewell to the F111...
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:49 am

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 15):
Hey Chris where you there Sat

Just saturday - I didn't decide to go until quite late. I was stuck in with the general public - not fortunate enough to contact the right people (in enough time) to get in with the media.

I was pretty angry with the people nearby pushing and shoving, especially the parents of the little kids encouraging them to push and shove. I got there very early - and it was just about useless.

I sort of seemed to be putting equal or more effort into avoiding hitting someone over the head with the camera (or stepping on the toes of a little kid), rather than just concentrating on getting good photos. I hand held the camera the entire time.

While I got some good photos (and enjoyed the flying display), I really didn't have a good time at all - I thought I could have done a lot better without the interference (I'm a pretty strong self-critic). I guess I was really annoyed with how inconsiderate and rude people could be.

I have a few photos in the queue - processed how I'm happy for them to look. If they get rejected - I'll keep them for my own collection.  Smile

[Edited 2010-09-26 22:30:34]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:17 am

Personally i have a lot of fun whacking kids in the head with the 800 and 500 when they try to push through to the fence.
At Avalon 09 on the Friday night it was a free for all but some smart a*** 13 yeaar old learnt to not argue with a 600F4!

A few of mine from the show hope you like...

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf18s/1023950104_wNNey-X2.jpg

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf18s2/1023950275_jGkUY-X2.jpg

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf18s3/1023950434_g3wqj-X2.jpg

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf18s4/1023950624_kQrmC-X2.jpg

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf111/1023950794_YyYZC-X2.jpg

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf1112/1023951069_vG3Xp-X2.jpg

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf1113/1023951192_gsn2a-X2.jpg

A great show congrats to the RAAF for putting on a fitting end to the F-111's airshow career she will be sorely missed..
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:20 am

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 17):

Wow, absolutely stunning! I love that one where the flare is lighting up the underbelly of the F/A18!

Haha and yeah, serves him right!
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:30 am

Hey Darren,

stunning images as usual. Is the EXIF viewable on your website?

Mark
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:49 am

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 17):
A great show congrats to the RAAF for putting on a fitting end to the F-111's airshow career she will be sorely missed..

I'm trying to work out where you were located from those images. Where you near the end of the runway, or the start. Looks like near the end. I might actually have seen you. I did see someone with a large Canon lens (and a RAAF person with a Nikon D3 like camera (with what looked to be a smaller 70-200 sized lens). In fact, that RAAF person walked right past me and was looking rather bemused at my camera setup.  

Great images!

These are a couple of mine:
http://www.totalnfs.net/c_d_files/f111_e.jpg
http://www.totalnfs.net/c_d_files/f111_g.jpg
http://www.totalnfs.net/c_d_files/f111_i.jpg
http://www.totalnfs.net/c_d_files/as350_a.jpg
http://www.totalnfs.net/c_d_files/as350_b.jpg
http://www.totalnfs.net/c_d_files/f111_d.jpg
http://www.totalnfs.net/c_d_files/f111_b.jpg

I did photograph the various F-18s, but it'd be totally inappropriate to mention those in a thread where we are sad about the loss of the glorious F-111 Aardvark. What's above is just a small sample that I edited very fast to show a couple of people who wanted to see those.

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 17):

At Avalon 09 on the Friday night it was a free for all but some smart a*** 13 yeaar old learnt to not argue with a 600F4!

I did tell off one maybe 13 year old or so kid. He learnt how snappy I can be when I haven't had ample doses of coffee. (It's pathetic - I know, I get headaches if I don't drink coffee)! After that, he gave me a bit more room.

[Edited 2010-09-27 04:07:38]

[Edited 2010-09-27 04:09:39]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:46 am

Great shots Chris..look forward to seeing some more on the front page of the site.
Hey Mark no i dont think you can get to the exif off smug mug the images are right click protected...if you want any info just ask.
I did see some excellent stuff from Rob Hines who was shooting with a 7D and 400/5.6 combo and he did really well. Think he has a flickr page worth checking out.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:11 pm

Hey Darren,

I've sent you a PM.

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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:30 pm

The thread kind of got hijacked, but this is a good kind of hijacked. The lighting on this one makes it really dramatic - the upper surface shadowed, but part of the vapor reaching out into the sunlight, the glow of the afterburners, etc. Thanks for sharing.

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 17):
A few of mine from the show hope you like...

http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Other/webposting/bigf18s/1023950104_wNNey-X2.jpg
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:12 am

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 21):
I did see some excellent stuff from Rob Hines who was shooting with a 7D and 400/5.6 combo and he did really well.

I'll keep an eye out for that. I had a look, but might have got the wrong person -there was nothing on the Flickr page.

For me - the best thing all day was the three F111's with the wing-sweep at different angles.  
Quoting iamlucky13 (Reply 23):
lighting on this one makes it really dramatic

That's a great shot - really sharp. That's where the extra megapixels and a huge, prime lens are worth their weight in gold. A zoom-nikkor 200-400 is pretty good, but when allied to a teleconverter, it's not nearly as sharp as that. A few of mine got accepted, 1 rejected for dark - I'll see if I can resolve that without making the image look strange.

Darren: Did you use 1DS3 for the above image or 1D4?

[Edited 2010-09-27 17:27:09]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:26 am

Mk4 Chris...yea sorry for the thread Hijack!!
Glad a few people enjoyed the shots above.
Cheers
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:27 pm

Love all the Aussie Airshow shots but...back to the thread. As the 7D and 5DmkII are similar prices and with reference to the difference in capabilities of the 2 which one comes out a favourite. Full frame with a little slower fps etc against 7D with its metering and autofocus .

Thanks
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:19 pm

You're really just going to have to figure out which your priorities are.

The 5D will have better image quality under close scrutiny, but is more optimized for mostly static subjects. You'll need longer lenses to get the same field of view, but then again, its images should crop well when appropriate.

The 7D, as noted, is better suited for action with framerate and autofocus system.

Which appeals more to you?
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:36 pm

Quoting rtl (Reply 26):
Love all the Aussie Airshow shots but...back to the thread. As the 7D and 5DmkII are similar prices and with reference to the difference in capabilities of the 2 which one comes out a favourite. Full frame with a little slower fps etc against 7D with its metering and autofocus .

Go for the 5D Mk.II - even though it is slower, the 21.1mp and 35mm sensor are worth it. I don't think the speed of the 7D is that much of a benefit - provided you can handle doing short bursts of photos.

Maybe use very fast memory cards as well - they are useful - and do speed things up a little bit.

If I were in your position and spending the money, that's what I'd do.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:05 am

Quoting rtl (Reply 26):
As the 7D and 5DmkII are similar prices

Amazon has the 7D almost $1,000 cheaper than the 5DMK2
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:43 am

I think Chris speaks the truth(again).
The 5D MK2 creates great images. 21MP has to be seen when its combined with good glass it creates superb images.
If you dont need the 8FPS and all the cross sensors the 7D offers plus weather sealing etc i'd get the 5D.
If money is an issue the 7D.
The AF and other features of the 7D make it very attractive and the pick of crop cameras and the extra money goes a LONG way to getting an excellent lens like the 100-400L that you would need anyway to get you started.
Decisions decisions...
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:08 am

It all comes down to personal preference. I recently have changed sides and am now a Canon user. Our company uses Nikon's and after using those, I preferred the feel, layout of buttons, ease of menu's etc on the Canon over the Nikon.

I purchased the 7D a few months back, and I have not one complaint about it. I have now got a few L series lenses to make the purchase complete and have not looked back since! I've not noticed any noise issues as many report, and for the price (I got mine for around $1500AU, purchased battery grip and extra battery also, shopping around helped big time!) its a superb performer. I can guarantee you that you won't be disappointed.

I too looked at the 5D, I have used the 1DmkIII in a studio environment. I settled for the 7D for the moment, and will look to something more later down the track. The images the 7D has produced so far are really satisfying. So in case you haven't noticed, I'm quite happy thus far!
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:18 pm

I bought a 7D this summer, because it was much cheaper than an 800mm  . I've been using it along side a 5D (Mk1) and 1D3. On the plus side, the camera is a joy to use - and I found the AF more usable and accurate than the 1D3, and perhaps just as quick to lock on. In practice I found the camera much quicker to use than the 1D3 due to some of its customisable features combined with much more rapidly accessed AF point selection.

Sadly, though, image quality is not up to either the old 5D or 1D3. Looking through archived images, I'd place the 7D on a par with the 20D. Though of course by careful processing and reducing the image size to the same as a 20D, it will look significantly better.

For me frame rate is not an issue (I shoot the 7D at 3fps) but the AF is. You need to remember that the 5DmkII is very much an old 5D with a bigger sensor and video capability. It uses the same AF system, which frankly I find inadequate for fast action.

In my view, when it comes to action, the 7D will get you many more good sharp shots, but in terms of image quality the 5D (Mk1 or II) will best it. The choice is between many keepers with good quality or less keepers with stunning quality.

Given that (IMHO) Canon rushed the 5Dii out to get ahead of the game in the video stakes, I would not be at all surprised to see a 5D III next year incorporating the new AF system and a number of other features found in the 7D and 60D. This could be THE camera, and I would expect it to be priced between the 7D and 1D (there is now quite a gap).

Cheers,

Colin
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:29 pm

Hey Colin long time no speak hope your well!!

A few 7D shots from a good friend here in OZ with the 7D and 400/5.6 Combo..

http://www.pbase.com/robhynes/williamtown
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:09 am

Those are great photos! Love them.

All this talk of new cameras has me going down the new camera route too, as you might have noticed from my signature.  Wink The high value of the Australian dollar makes it more affordable for me to get a new camera.

[Edited 2010-10-08 18:10:58]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:32 am

Mmmm D3S...nice mate!!
Look forward to seeing the results of its efforts!!!
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:56 am

Hey Chris was in Sydney the day after the Willi airshow(Great shots you got BTW) and boy i'd forgotten how good an airport it is for photography.
Since i left in 2005 i've shot at a lot of places but Sydney is still somewhere special..
Got this within an hour of setting up...
http://www.vortexaviationphotography.com/Civil-Aviation-Photography/Sydney-Kingsford-Smith/gcivt200910dehowie1/1039739786_ux6Ty-X2.jpg
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:06 am

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 36):
Hey Chris was in Sydney the day after the Willi airshow(Great shots you got BTW) and boy i'd forgotten how good an airport it is for photography.

Yeah, it's pretty good isn't it.  

I'm not aware of where you were there (you'd have to plot it on a map) - but over on Foreshore Drive the new boat-ramp facilities provide a great opportunity for photos. Your shot there is beautiful.  

The day after Williamtown I was recovering from some mild sunburn.   I'm uploading them a few more photos at a time in with the regular photos I'm uploading. Thanks for the comments on them.  

Now the D3S, we'll see how that goes when it arrives. In the day conditions in good light, I expect no difference to the D700 (or not obvious anyhow), but in the dark conditions is where the D3S will really shine. I don't expect I have any need for any other combination of cameras.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:00 am

Super combo you have there now for all conditions.
The shot above was taken sitting on a park bench on Grand parade about 50m down from President Ave..
Yep got burnt as as well a little on the Sat un was ok.
Bet you cant wait to get that D3s good luck with it..
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:04 am

I am thinking about getting the 5D MkII later this year (well, my wife will get me one for christmas, she is a spotter too so she knows what I want), but I am not so sure now. Every review on that camera mentiones the slow AF and I have also read plenty of similar remarks in here too..

So when I am taking touchdown-shots at my local airports here, best example is Basle...


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..am I at risk to loose shots like these, especially in less than perfect light conditions? You are close to the runway and planes pass by fast. If yes, then I can't take the 5D.

Any opinions are welcome.

Mike Steffen
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:38 am

Quoting IwantaBBJ (Reply 39):
Every review on that camera mentiones the slow AF and I have also read plenty of similar remarks in here too..
Quoting IwantaBBJ (Reply 39):
..am I at risk to loose shots like these, especially in less than perfect light conditions? You are close to the runway and planes pass by fast. If yes, then I can't take the 5D.

My ancient Nikon D80 would get those kinds of shots without problem! Surely a new fangled 5D Mk. II costing a huge amount of money should have few problems with that.   It even seems like overkill - unless you send everything you photograph to print at huge sizes.

Okay, maybe the 5D2 does have slower autofocus, but slower in a relative sense I'd suggest - and not slow as in "this camera is garbage" sort of slow. Just slow compared to the very finest cameras.

[Edited 2010-10-12 01:39:37]
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:45 pm

Question for all here. Is the 5D mark 2 autofocus better than the 40D? I currently have a 40D and am satisfied with the AF so if the 5D is better then it is a no brainer that when I'm ready to upgrade the 5D will be my choice.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:50 pm

I have been using a 5D2 since March this year. Upgraded from 40D. The only negative difference is the slower frame rate. AF speed isn't an issue at all. Everything else about the camera is just perfect.
Check out my photos here for some examples including low light fast action shots taken at a recent airshow. I was even using a 2x extender that makes my lens an f5.6.
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:42 pm

Thanks HGabor and nice photos! About the low light ones...what ISO did you use for them? It seems the 5D2 cleans up real nice at high ISO
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:44 am

In most cases I used iso 3200.
Resizing really helps to reduce noise, that's when the 21mpixels come in handy.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:23 pm

I own both 7D and 5D2 and if my camera bag was on fire i'd sure be saving the 5D2 before i thought about the 7D...

7D is a great camera but the 5D2 is an amazing camera.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:09 pm

Quoting chris78cpr (Reply 45):
I own both 7D and 5D2 and if my camera bag was on fire i'd sure be saving the 5D2 before i thought about the 7D...

7D is a great camera but the 5D2 is an amazing camera.

I would hope so, you're talking around $1000 USD price difference. If there was a $5000 bill on fire in your bag, you should grab that before either camera.

To the OP: Not sure where you were seeing the average 7D reviews, but I read a lot of initial scrutiny. As of today the 7D is rated a 9.3/10 as well as the 5DII on FredMiranda.com. Both are solid cameras and it really depends on what features you are looking for in a camera, how much you have to spend, what glass you want to buy, etc etc etc.
-Matt
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:56 pm

Quoting ghajdufi (Reply 44):
In most cases I used iso 3200.

Wow, the results are so clean!
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:41 pm

Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 46):
I would hope so, you're talking around $1000 USD price difference. If there was a $5000 bill on fire in your bag, you should grab that before either camera.

To the OP: Not sure where you were seeing the average 7D reviews, but I read a lot of initial scrutiny. As of today the 7D is rated a 9.3/10 as well as the 5DII on FredMiranda.com. Both are solid cameras and it really depends on what features you are looking for in a camera, how much you have to spend, what glass you want to buy, etc etc etc.
-Matt

Nah sod the money, i mean just in terms of a camera that i prefer. I wouldn't be sad to lose my 7D, put it that way. It's a great camera, i just always grab my 5D over the 7D.
 
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RE: Canon 7D Vs 5DM2

Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:13 pm

Quoting chris78cpr (Reply 48):
Nah sod the money, i mean just in terms of a camera that i prefer. I wouldn't be sad to lose my 7D, put it that way. It's a great camera, i just always grab my 5D over the 7D.

I was joking   But a more serious question, if you 'always' grab the 5D, why own a 7D?
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