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Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:03 pm

Dear all,
Perhaps you had same question before buying right wide angle lens. Now I got a question for wide angle lens users. What do you think about SIGMA AF 12-24 mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG ASPHERICAL HSM and Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X. Which one is better? Lens planned to use in cockpit and inside the hangar. Thanks in advance for all advices.
Yerbol

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:56 pm

I've no idea about the Tokina but the Sigma receives some very good reviews. Others worth looking at are the Canon 10-22 and possibly the 17-40L.

Just for the record, the 18-55 takes some beating considering it's a kit lens - but at 18mm it's often not quite wide enough.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:59 am

Yerbol,

Sigma's 12-24 is made for full frame camera and is an old design, while Tokina 11-16 is for APS/DX. If you're camera is FF, you might want to take a look at Tokina's new 16-28/2.8 (probably as good as nikon's 14-24). For DX/APS-C, Canon 10-22, Tokina 11-16, and Tokina 12-24 II are good options. I suggest you try before you buy and see which one you like.

Some good starting points; www.photozone.de, www.slrgear.com, www.lenstip.com

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:12 am

Bryan from the-digital-picture recently posted several reviews of UW lenses for crop cameras. Start from the Tokina review and it has links to the rest:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...f-2.8-AT-X-Pro-DX-Lens-Review.aspx

Assuming you use a crop body, the Tokina will outperform that particular Sigma quite easily: it's sharper and also over a stop faster. Just make sure you're OK with the more limited zoom range of the Tokina thought.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
Just for the record, the 18-55 takes some beating considering it's a kit lens

...but the difference between 10mm-11mm and 18mm is actually pretty huge.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:39 am

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
Others worth looking at are the Canon 10-22

I use that one and I like it a lot. Excellent quality and nice wide angle shots. All my cockpit shots on A.net were taken with that lense.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
the 17-40L.

Another lense I own, but hardly ever use. Usually I use 10-22 and then my 24-105L.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:16 am

Yerbol,

It depends what you mean by wide angle. How wide? There's a huge difference between 24mm and 10mm! There's also the Sigma 10-20 EX consider. An excellent ultrawide and sharp as a pin.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:41 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
I use that one and I like it a lot. Excellent quality and nice wide angle shots. All my cockpit shots on A.net were taken with that lense.

Same here, I throw my weight behind the 10-22mm for if you have a crop body camera. Most of my cabin/cockpit/wing shots were taken with it.
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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:17 pm

Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 5):
There's also the Sigma 10-20 EX consider. An excellent ultrawide and sharp as a pin.

...provided you get a good copy. Unfortunately, there are many many lemons of that lens (and other Sigma lenses for that matter) out there. So, if it's a Sigma lens you want, shop carefully.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:25 pm

Quoting SNATH (Reply 7):
provided you get a good copy. Unfortunately, there are many many lemons of that lens (and other Sigma lenses for that matter) out there. So, if it's a Sigma lens you want, shop carefully.

Agreed. I had to return my first copy to Sigma with the common upper-left corner sharpness problem, but my second (current) copy is sweet.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:49 pm

Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 8):
I had to return my first copy to Sigma

Everyone I know (including me) returned their first copy of the 10-20 to Sigma.  

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:51 pm

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
Just for the record, the 18-55 takes some beating considering it's a kit lens - but at 18mm it's often not quite wide enough.

I still use the 18-55 I got with my 300D some 5 years ago - I even have have recent photos in the db taken with it, but it is limited when you need a wide shot, especially with a crop-body camera. I keep reading threads like this, because one day, when I'm back to gainful employment, a wide angle is high on my list of purchases.
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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:33 am

I absolutely need a Wide Angle for a crop body, I've found it is a necessity.

I purchased a slightly used Tokina 11-16 f2/8 and absolutely love it. I have quite a few photos here with it, and also many from my SXM trip. The sharpness is great and color reproduction is excellent. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase it.

It also does indoor work, besides aviation, quite well.

I've got a ton of photos that I can post as examples! lol
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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:19 am

Quoting SNATH (Reply 9):
Everyone I know (including me) returned their first copy of the 10-20 to Sigma

I see. So knowing my luck my first 15 would go back.....  

There are lemons of most lenses these days, but I must admit the more current Sigmas seen to be particularly bad. One lens recommended to me when I first started shopping for a decent wide-angle was the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 OS, but after three copies (all displaying severe softness alternating sides) I gave up.

Same goes for L lenses - I had two 24-105Ls before settling on a (very sharp) third!

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:57 am

Quoting SNATH (Reply 3):
Assuming you use a crop body, the Tokina will outperform that particular Sigma quite easily: it's sharper and also over a stop faster. Just make sure you're OK with the more limited zoom range of the Tokina thought.

Hi Tony, Tokina seems to be brighter lens as it has f2.8. I spoke to one photographer who suggested me this wide angle as one of the best wide angle lens.Yes you right, I am using crop body  
Quoting scopedude (Reply 2):
Yerbol,

Sigma's 12-24 is made for full frame camera and is an old design, while Tokina 11-16 is for APS/DX. If you're camera is FF, you might want to take a look at Tokina's new 16-28/2.8 (probably as good as nikon's 14-24). For DX/APS-C, Canon 10-22, Tokina 11-16, and Tokina 12-24 II are good options. I suggest you try before you buy and see which one you like.

Hi Winston,
Thanks for advise!

Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 5):
erbol,

It depends what you mean by wide angle. How wide? There's a huge difference between 24mm and 10mm! There's also the Sigma 10-20 EX consider. An excellent ultrawide and sharp as a pin.

Hi Darren,
I can get very close while I am in the hangar or area next to hangar. I think Tokina's 11-16 will be very useful in cockpit too.Let me check Sigma's 10-20  
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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:56 pm

Quoting yerbol (Reply 13):
I can get very close while I am in the hangar or area next to hangar

In that case, a 10-20 or similar might be what you're looking for since you have a crop body. One of the drawbacks of a crop body is you need wider lenses, particularly in the confines of aircraft, hangars and museums.

Quoting yerbol (Reply 13):
Let me check Sigma's 10-20

A few examples with my Sigma 10-20 used in a museum situation;


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I looked at both the Sigma 10-20 EX and Canon 10-22 before deciding. While the Canon may have a slight edge over the Sigma, I didn't think the Canon was worth the extra ~£200 given it's a niche lens.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:06 am

Hi Darren!
Thanks for the photos! They are wide indeed  
I'll try to get a copy to make some sample shots and let you know the outcome.

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RE: Wide Angle Lens For Canon EOS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:10 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
I use that one and I like it a lot. Excellent quality and nice wide angle shots. All my cockpit shots on A.net were taken with that lense.

+1 for that, I absolutely love my 10-22, its as sharp as an L should be right through the zoom range and not too slow either.

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