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Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:26 am

I'm near ready to get hold of a 600mm F/4.0G VRII Nikkor super-telephoto lens - I've got the budget for one.

Has anyone tried this combination? I understand the maximum aperture will probably drop, but this should be no problem.

I've seen some samples, but they are of static objects - it looks sharp, but I'm just wanting to double check. The 1.7x TC works well enough with the 200-400mm Zoom-Nikkor - so I suspect it should be even better with the prime lens.

[Edited 2011-07-06 20:37:41]
 
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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:39 am

According to Nikon's lens brochure the combination is compatible.
Of course it would be far too long and heavy to use without a tripod, and maximum aperture would indeed drop significantly, to an f/7 or so.
VR should still work, but as VR doesn't work on tripods and the combination (indeed I suspect the 600 without TC will require one in reality if not theory, I've used the smaller 500 once and it was impossible to use handheld because of the size and weight) it's pretty pointless. Best save some money and buy the non-VR version instead.
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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:45 pm

I would go for the VR lens. There are a lot of spotting locations where you just can't setup a chunky tripod with a wembley head. I have a Canon 400 F/5.6 and there are a lot of situations where I wish I would have IS (VR). I have a sturdy monopod + tilt head which helps a lot but standing on top of a ladder next to the fence with the monopod isn't always easy.

just my 0.02USD

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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:09 pm

Quoting jwenting (Reply 1):
VR should still work, but as VR doesn't work on tripods and the combination (indeed I suspect the 600 without TC will require one in reality if not theory

Actually, the newest Nikkor (and Canon) big telephotos come with a "Tripod Detection Mode", which helps reducing vibration when on tripods.

So, it's like an extra stop actually  
 
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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:33 pm

Chris if it's anything like the Canon you should only see a very marginal decrease in IQ based on your TC performance.
I use my 1.4 all the time with very little degradation and in most images you would never know a TC is on it..
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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:55 pm

If you check my photos you will quite a few of the last couple years shot with the 600mm f/4 VRII and D3/D3s/D3x combo.

That lens is absolutely superb. The shots I have from YYC with this lens give a great telephoto compression feel. I use a manfrotto monopod with a ball head to shoot aviation. Mostly from a step ladder as well - the monopod in collapsed position, resting on the top step, eye level when I stand on thrid from top step.

I love it, and if you want 600mm you can't go wrong.
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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:40 pm

As a long time user of the Canon 500 f4 with or without a 1.4x or 2x convertor I would say that 'atmospherics' will have a much bigger bearing on image quality thean the convertor. The impact of dust, haze etc. seems to increase exponentially with focal length.

The 1.7 & 600 should work well in ideal conditions, however I think you'll find that in many cases you'll find it's possible to get better results by upressing a non-convertor shot than by using the convertor (though that will also depend on your sensor).

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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:50 pm

Thanks all.  

Only asking about the 1.7x TC as I might use it to get a certain type of shot, but otherwise - it'll be used with a smaller TC or without one. My thoughts are pretty much confirmed, so that's good. And I'll get the lens in a while. I use a wimberley tripod head already, so will certainly use that for the new lens.

Quoting ckw (Reply 6):
As a long time user of the Canon 500 f4 with or without a 1.4x or 2x convertor I would say that 'atmospherics' will have a much bigger bearing on image quality thean the convertor.

Yeah, I'm already accustomed to that Most of my photos tend to be in the long distance range.

Quoting alevik (Reply 5):
That lens is absolutely superb. The shots I have from YYC with this lens give a great telephoto compression feel. I use a manfrotto monopod with a ball head to shoot aviation. Mostly from a step ladder as well - the monopod in collapsed position, resting on the top step, eye level when I stand on thrid from top step.

Thank you.  Smile This gives me confidence to drop the dollars on the lens. My other option was a Sigma 800mm F/5.6, it's cheaper, but it has no VR (or OS in Sigma speak) and I'm generally suspicious of Sigma quality (and their local distributor). I think the Nikkor is the safer bet.

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RE: Nikkor 600mm F/4.0G Vrii And 1.7x TC

Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:58 pm

Quoting cpd (Reply 7):
Thank you.   This gives me confidence to drop the dollars on the lens. My other option was a Sigma 800mm F/5.6, it's cheaper, but it has no VR (or OS in Sigma speak) and I'm generally suspicious of Sigma quality (and their local distributor). I think the Nikkor is the safer bet.

Based on what i know about your shooting i'd steer clear of the Sigma! While it serves a purpose a 600F4 VR and TC will give you a much more pleasing image and be a more flexible option! Enjoy the new purchase.
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