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Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:49 am

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2014/01/28/...d-in-verenigde-arabische-emiraten/ (Dutch only)

Three Dutch plane spotters have been arrested in the UAE a few days ago and are accused of espionage. The three travel across the world to go spotting; probably they entered restricted areas, their relatives say.

Would they be a.net members? It is not that common for spotters to be arrested, at least I haven't heard it much on this site.
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:03 am

Oh dear, poor chaps. If they really were only spotting then let's hope it all gets straightened out and there is no bizarrely harsh or unpredictable justice meted out.
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:19 am

Any idea where in the UAE this happened ?
Shame our hobby isn't understood in the Middle East much, such a nice place to go for a winter sun & spotting trip combination.
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:33 am

The primary rule when spotting planes wherever is to follow local rules.
And the second one is, if in doubt, ask the locals in charge.

I live in Stavanger Norway and as you may know the airport is also a NATO base.
For a long time, there were signs on the fences prohibiting to take pictures, based on a law from 1910 or so.
That was of course sort of ridiculous, but some enforced the law very strictly. Only polite requests helped.
I remember standing on public ground and taking pictures of landing airliners when I was stopped by an MP.
I argued that I was taking pictures of civilian ac only. "I cannot know that" was his reply, asking firmly me to vacate.
The signs are now gone and it is free to take pictures. The airport authority has even built a platform to allow pictures to be taken above the fences.
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:58 am

'Officer, we are innocent plane-spotters .. we come in peace .. we only need these bugging devices and ricin-tipped umbrellas to ward off wild animals'
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:13 am

As someone who has been detained by "the authorities" for plane spotting - at LBG (!) a few decades ago - there is no doubt that plane spotting has its risks outside of the few countries where it is well understood.

I would say that some, a minority, of the Dutch spotters especially can be really aggressive in going places and doing things that I would never contemplate. For example, if you are up against the fence of a UAE special forces base with a big telescope and a camera with a big lens - you are, undoubtedly, risking being detained.

It will be interesting to hear the details of where and what they were doing.
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:46 pm

How did the case of the British spotters arrested in Greece a few years ago end up?
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:02 pm

Going by memory of that incident, I think the British ambassador to Greece got involved and got them released.
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:25 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 6):
How did the case of the British spotters arrested in Greece a few years ago end up?

That incident also included two Dutch citizens and twelve UK citizens.

Bail deposits of about £10,000 each were placed for the release of the defendants.

At trial a year later Six received 3 year prison sentences and the remaining 12 month suspended sentences.

The convictions were subsequently overturned , however all spent time on remand and/or after conviction behind bars.

Subsequent claims for wrongful imprisonment and bail refunds have failed.

As GCT64 refers to there are a number of rather well know Dutch German and British spotter/photographers -Some contribute to this and similar sites with liking to the edgy/risky side (Military or VIP)

Some rather push beyond the boundaries of what you might call safer plane spotting.

GCT64 -Also been detained in the UK as youth by MOD Police at of all places RAF Stanbridge for stopping to take a picture of a dilapidated gate guardian Hunter.

Quizzed for over an hour as they also had interest in my name being similar to a someone in the Irish Republican Movement. They had cross references by vehicle registration!

However do hope these chaps are released quickly

[Edited 2014-01-29 05:35:49]

[Edited 2014-01-29 05:36:54]
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:29 pm

In a place like the Middle East where you have to expect the unexpected, you should be really careful. As it is known that many aiports in the reigon are in the middle of the cities, and it would be very easy target for any teroritst attack. I am sure that those spotters will be realesd within few hours, unless they really captured a senstive military airbases.
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:59 pm

The only place I've been stopped was Clark Air Base in the Philippines.

Once in 1973 when our C-121J was there for an RON, and I was at the aircraft taking pictures of some of the other planes on the ramp. The USAF security took my film out of my camera with a warning.

In 1975 I was stationed at Clark and was serving as a press escort for the JIB (Joint Information Bureau) during the evacuation of Vietnam. I had a CBS, an Not all who wander are lost.
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:14 pm

Remember the UAE has a very corrupt legal system with people being arrested and convicted for all sorts of things without there being much evidence, often under the guise of Sharia law (which in the UAE depends on the Emirate). Remember the Norwegian girl who was imprisoned for reporting her own rape?

I hope this will be ironed out for these guys but I'm pretty sure the legal process won't be fair, nor will it be an easy ride for them.
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:27 pm

Sad news being a spotter myself. I would like to know where these spotters were spotting, was it at DXB or AUH or DOH or any other airport? I thought these airports were relatively open to spotting. I know a few Dutch spotters so I'm also interested in knowing who these spotters are.

In any case, I hope that they are innocent and that they will be released soon.

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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:30 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 8):
Some rather push beyond the boundaries of what you might call safer plane spotting.

Indeed and everyone has to make their decisions on what rules they are willing to break and what the risks are.

Hopefully they get released but its a reminder of the risks in some countries and warning about local laws!
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:41 pm

If they were anywhere near or around Al Bateen they were asking for attention or other locations of a more sensitive nature requiring safari drive would certainly not be recommended following the safe plane spotting principles.
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:47 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 8):
Bail deposits of about £10,000 each were placed for the release of the defendants.

I cannot resist to ask, did UK deduct 120k from bailout?

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 11):
I hope this will be ironed out for these guys but I'm pretty sure the legal process won't be fair, nor will it be an easy ride for them

Are there any pending 5th freedom right requests from UAE to NL (may be AMS)!!!
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:58 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 11):
Remember the UAE has a very corrupt legal system

And I thought this was only in Mexico.

Here is illegal to take pictures from any part inside the airport including the parking lots. Normally you won't be detained and just ask to leave the area known as Zona Federal. I've never understand why is not allowed, the only thing that comes to my mind is extremely poor judgment.



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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:00 pm

http://www.albateenairport.com/

This place looks relatively innocuous, but wiki indicates it is now military.

Also the Middle East is not Holland.

Clearly if it is military, that puts a different slant on things.

That said, which bizjets are in which location can be "interesting".

Also cameras and jotters tend to be viewed with less suspicion than scanners.

It would help to have more details of the circumstances here.
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:01 pm

it is somewhat ironic, people "spying" (alledgedly) at an arab airport.
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:08 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 17):
This place looks relatively innocuous, but wiki indicates it is now military.

Website's history page says it was military until 2008, since then it is just executive airport. I guess authorities don't want celebrities pictures taken by spotters.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:22 pm

The Middle East currently has a high risk of terrorism according to the UK FCO. Someone may look western but they don't have to be. Someone may have a Dutch passport but their political loyalties could be elsewhere.

Normally if you 'spot' at airports where you shouldn't the police just ask you to move on. The fact that these guys were arrested seems to cast doubt on their story.

Good for Dubai, if it was there, for taking security seriously. If it was another airport you'd wonder what they were 'spotting' as I can't think of another airport in the region that has interesting movements to spot.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:26 pm

This is simply foolish. Good ole' U.S. of A has been victim to the worst attacks and yet it is still possible to spot there. And if you get caught, 9 times out of 10 it will be a fair process.
Ive heard of that Norwegian girl, Ive been to Qatar and have witnessed how anal-retentive it is over in that region.
I feel bad for those people. Of course, if they invested billions into the local economy Im sure theyd be fine.
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:29 pm

Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 19):
Website's history page says it was military until 2008, since then it is just executive airport. I guess authorities don't want celebrities pictures taken by spotters.

Continues to handle quite a bit of military and other "interesting" security related traffic and yes a host of rather wealthy and often secretive /shy soles that prefer their movements go un-recorded shall we say.

And its right smack in the middle of down town Abu Dhabi.

Unless you yourself are wealthy enough to be boarding a RotanaJet service to Sir Bani Yas or Delma it's a place i would avoid, however interesting the views over the fence look to the number one eyeball.
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:32 pm

This is EXACTLY why I never want to travel to the Middle East (among other reasons).
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:32 pm

Quoting xaapb (Reply 16):
Here is illegal to take pictures from any part inside the airport including the parking lots. Normally you won't be detained and just ask to leave the area known as Zona Federal. I've never understand why is not allowed, the only thing that comes to my mind is extremely poor judgment.

Really? Airports are huge targets. Long before 9/11 European airports were targets for terrorists which is why back in the 80's and 90's landing at a place like FCO felt like you were inside a military compound with semi-automatic machine gun toting security everywhere. Taking pictures of the facility would be step 1 for planning a terrorist attack. Today you can get all that information of the Internet and personal cameras are widespread so my guess is that Mexico is just a little behind of the times but the reason for it does have an historical foundation.
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:43 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 11):

If the incident occured in Abu Dhabi, if someone has been arrested for espionage then it would be covered under either military law, if it is at a military base and tbe offenders were actually on the base, or under the Criminal Code. Neither is what is typically referred to as Shari'ah. If the incident occured in Dubai but not at a military base the criminal law of Dubai would prevail. Again, what is generally referred to as Shari'ah is only relevent so far as the law is supposedly just.

That said, it is important that the detainees insist on Consular representation to ensure their right to a court appointed translater and defender, should the case go to court. The language of the courts is arabic and unless the accused are fluent in that language it would be unwise to sign any documentation.

Of course, if they are guilty of an offence, specially if they were in a restricted area and ignored signs, then all they can realistically hope for is that the authorities don't wish to waste any more time. If they were actually "spying" then the penalties can be severe, as they are in many other countries.

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Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:55 pm

Quoting N776AU (Reply 23):

Millions of people travel to and through the Middle East each year without incident. Dubai Airport alone recorded over 64 million passengers in 2013. How many of them were arrested, how many were charged, how many went to prison?

I was born in Libya and have visited and travelled through airports in Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain and the UAE (even before it was the UAE) yet I have never been questioned, let alone arrested in almost sixty years of flying. If you understand the norms of the country that you are visiting and avoid doing anything stupid, you will find that most people in the Middle East will welcome you.
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:37 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 12):
Sad news being a spotter myself. I would like to know where these spotters were spotting, was it at DXB or AUH or DOH or any other airport?

DOH is in another country.

Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 21):
This is simply foolish. Good ole' U.S. of A has been victim to the worst attacks and yet it is still possible to spot there. And if you get caught, 9 times out of 10 it will be a fair process.

9 out of 10 would be disappointing for a Western democracy.
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:06 pm

Apparently this took place at Fujairah.
Will be interesting to know where exactly they were caught and what they were photographing.
An espionage charge seems excessive since there are no military planes at Fujairah, but in corrupt countries like this anything is possible.

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Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:33 pm

Quoting JayBCNLON (Reply 27):
Quoting A388 (Reply 12):
Sad news being a spotter myself. I would like to know where these spotters were spotting, was it at DXB or AUH or DOH or any other airport?

DOH is in another country.

My apologies, you are right. DOH is in Qatar but I was actually just asking how all these airports are with aircraft spotters. I have no clue.

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Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:36 pm

OK. Fujairah is a lovely place to visit, offering access to the eastern coast of the UAE and therein may be a problem. Guess which country lies across the Gulf. Yes, that's right - Iran. Is the UAE and Iran on best friends terms, considering disputes over a number of islands and the alliance between the UAE and the USA? I am not suggesting that the Emirate of Fujairah is paranoic, but if these Dutch photographers were anything like the "frail old ladies" on the ship that I travelled on to Australia from Rotterdam, then caution is advised.

The good news is that Fujairah generally goes along with the Federal Criminal Code that I referred to in post #25 above. The not so good news, despite the preceding, is that the Emirate can be a bit less liberal than Dubai.
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:32 pm

"Fujairah is a lovely place to visit, offering access to the eastern coast of the UAE and therein may be a problem. Guess which country lies across the Gulf. Yes, that's right - Iran. Is the UAE and Iran on best friends terms, considering disputes over a number of islands and the alliance between the UAE and the USA? "


Really? You are being paranoid like the rest of uneducated population towards the spotters.

Guess which country lies across the water from USA? Yes, thats right, its Cuba, and little bit further is Venezuela, and further down is Chile, and further down is Antarctica!

I've been spotting in ME airports myself and in countries where their arch rival lies across the road (not across the gulf).
In a normal country they would be detained, questioned and released. But since UAE is not a normal country they follow their own imaginary law, waiting for bribes.
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:46 pm

Quoting Dahlgardo (Reply 28):
Apparently this took place at Fujairah.

And that puts a whole different complexion on it. FJR is a very secretive airport that does its very best to keep spotters (either number crunchers or photographers) away. I have personally witnessed folks being taken away by the police for just looking at planes from the cafe which overlooks the active ramp.

Three sides are protected by a 12ft high wall. The west side is open with a high fence along the road. There are cameras and signs all along the fence. They really don't like us looking. They really, really don't like us getting our cameras out. Which is a real shame, because there's some great stuff dumped there.

Yes, you will find some photos from FJR here, but not that many and it is a huge risk.

Quoting Dahlgardo (Reply 28):
An espionage charge seems excessive since there are no military planes at Fujairah, but in corrupt countries like this anything is possible.

It is used by the American military and some other US "government agencies". I have spent a lot of time in the Middle East and have never personally seen or experienced this 'corruption'.

Quoting N776AU (Reply 23):
This is EXACTLY why I never want to travel to the Middle East (among other reasons).

I've lived and worked in several Middle East countries (UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Oman & Kuwait) and never had any problems. If you care to look, you may a few photos I've taken at a website very nearby.   
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Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:58 am

Quoting dcaviation (Reply 31):

In what way is the UAE not a normal country?

As I have indicated above, I have travelled in the ME, including the UAE, over several decades and never had a problem. There is absoultely no basis for your accusation of paranoia. I have had no problems taking photos at DXB, for example, yet FJR is not the same. Depite the "Internarional" status there are few passenger flights but there are both charter and military movements which the authorities prefer not to publicise.

What is lacking from the reports is any detail of what, where, when and why? Without answers to those questions everything is speculation.
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Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:56 am

I grew up in the UAE. It's a tricky place for some Westerners. It resembles any relaxing and fun cosmopolitan place; you can drink and party without much difficulty. However, it is not the West. You can very easily get into serious trouble if you get on the wrong side of the authorities, and that includes a very loose idea of due process.

They'll probably be detained for a little while, get a bollocking, and be sent on their way.
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Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:42 pm

I lived in UAE during the year 2012. I liked the country a lot, but sometimes things can get a little weird. One ocasion I jumped a traffic light and two police officers got mad and told me "jumping a red light, overspeeding and reckless driving - 8 days in jail and a 1.000 Euro fine". I apologized, they looked at my documents, saw I am a UE citizen and let me go.

I used to take pictures everywhere (work related, landscapes, historic sites) and never had any problem, but we must not forget that Abu Dhabi (I lived there) or Dubai is not Sharjah or Fujairah.

Information about plane photography:

http://www.plane-spotting-hotels.com/index.php/plane-spotting-dubai/

http://wheretospotatairports.wordpre.../2013/06/13/spotting-at-dubai-dbx/
 
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Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:34 am

Quoting N776AU (Reply 23):

What are the other reasons?
 
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Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:14 am

Quoting N776AU (Reply 23):
This is EXACTLY why I never want to travel to the Middle East (among other reasons).

That's a rather parochial attitude to have. The thing is, when you travel internationally it behooves you to understand the customs and mores of a country, their culture, people etc. When you've done your homework and realize that your not in Kansas anymore Toto, travels become so much easier.

It would appear that these "spotters" forgot that very basic lesson.

Quoting AyostoLeon (Reply 26):
If you understand the norms of the country that you are visiting and avoid doing anything stupid, you will find that most people in the Middle East will welcome you.

Absolutely correct approach.
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:46 pm

There were a few Dutch photographers at the Bahrain airshow i think as part of an aviation tour, wonder to do with this?
Taking photo's at Bahrain I was very very cautious because of the constant Police presence either going round the inner security fence or just passing traffic. In the end I felt i was so obvious i gave up (the place in question is a small garden area normally full of family and kids but it was so damp and cold i was the only one)

Just wasn't worth the risk, next time i'm going to write to the man in charge!

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Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:36 pm

I'm sure I have noticed a visit to FJR included in the itinerary of organized spotting trips to the UAE in the past.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:04 pm

Quoting TC957 (Reply 39):
I'm sure I have noticed a visit to FJR included in the itinerary of organized spotting trips to the UAE in the past.

Yes, this normally involves a slow drive around the fenced west side of the field, frantically trying to read plane registrations from the minibus. Then a quick visit to the cafe where the over-enthusiastic ones are normally 'arrested' within two minutes of arriving. There is no official visit to the field, unlike Sharjah where you can purchase an expensive ramp pass.

RKT is largely the same.
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Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:23 pm

I've ran into problems at FJR myself back in 2005 after descending from the adjacent overlooking hill (despite just spending a few moments up there). We spent a few friendly hours at the local police station and were then released without any further charges.
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Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:30 pm

Quoting scbriml (Reply 32):
It is used by the American military and some other US "government agencies"

Intriguing. I worked in that country for a while, and I had plenty of USA and "other government agencies" traffic - I can't share types or details obviously. However, I don't recall ever seeing one going into FJR. In fact if you opened google maps and snooped around you would see where without me spilling the beans.

There are probably more likely undesirable UAE activites that are going on there, if I would have to guess...

In fact FJR was closed for fair amount of the time due to terrain and wx.

Quoting joaocs (Reply 35):
I used to take pictures everywhere

I got a free trip to the copshop for taking a photo of the Hilton hotel in Abu Dhabi. I stopped taking photos there altogether. Nothing really worth photographing and getting arrested every 5 minutes is just tedious.
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Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:18 pm

Any news here? Are those poor still arrested?
 
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Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:16 pm

Apparently yes, as of 12 February. Their pysical and mental condition is said to be good on the Scramble forum, the charges against them unclear.
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:31 pm

Are the names of these Dutch spotters known by now? I know a few Dutch spotters.

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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:35 pm

I'm in Abu Dhabi, and strangely enough, yesterday was the third annual General Aviation Air Expo at Al Bateen. A portion of the airport was open to the public for three days. The military/police stuff was outside the fenced-in area, but very visible anyways. I saw plenty of folks taking photos through the fence at that side of the airfield in plain view of the Emirati personnel. In fact, one of their Navy helos ran up, taxied out, and took off serve as a safety aircraft for the parachute jumpers and the Al Fursan flight demo, all the while being photographed with camera phones and such. I did notice that the C-130s and some other types were nowhere to be seen.

I'm sure this is a case of them letting you see what they want you to see. Last October, an example of almost all of the aircraft that the UAE Air Force operates was on open public display at the Al Ain airport. You could get up close and personal with one of their F-16Es, or Mirage 2000, etc, and take all the photos you wanted.

I have done some planespotting of arrivals on final at AUH without incident, but that spot was outside airport grounds. Not going to push my luck just for for some Etihad pics.

I take photos all the time here, mostly of buildings and special events, and had never had a problem, but I play it smart. Just last month I did see some photographers being questioned by the police, but they brought that on themselves by pulling over in the breakdown lane, right in the middle of Shk. Zayed bridge to take photos. At least their cameras weren't pointed to the refinery/power plant/military base on the other side of the bridge (huge no-no to film those type of facilities)
 
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RE: Three Dutch Spotters Arrested In UAE For Espionage

Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:30 pm

Not all of the Middle East prohibits spotting photography. Having family in and around TLV, I travel there somewhat regularly; photographing and videotaping planes isn't prohibited, and indeed I have taken a few pictures in the area in the past. Additionally I'm subscribed to one or two Youtube spotters from the area.
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