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How To Photo F-117?

Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:41 am

anyone know how can i picturethe F-117 in the states? there's USAF museum but it's inside at dark, is there any where else the F-117 possible to pictutre in the states?
there was at Air Park in California but i've herd it's gone, do you know why? and still how can i picture it?

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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:42 pm

The USAF Museum is dark inside, but they allow - even encourage - the use of tripods in the museum. You should be able to get some decent shots in there if you try.

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Air-Museums/USAF-Museum/i-Vn4bTJw/0/L/JM_2007_11_13_USAF_Museum_006-L.jpg

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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:05 pm

They're still flying out in the Nevada Desert. http://aroundtherange.blogspot.com/ Bring lots of water and patience.   
 
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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:54 pm

The one I photographed in 2009 at the Blackbird Air Park in Palmdale CA was missing when I was there in February 2014.


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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:16 am

dlednicer, thats exactly why i was asking cause it is NO LONGER in the air park! UNFORTUNETLY!!

hrtsfldHomeboy, interesting advice! do you know if the daily go or just need luck? if i go entire day could it be there will be no F-117?
and where do you recomand to spot?
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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:27 pm

the owner of the BlackBird air park returned to my enquiery and told me the F-117 moved parmenetly to Eduard base, what is that means? is there a museum there too?
 
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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:19 pm

The Edwards AFB tour takes you inside the base to the museum (no F-117A in 2013) but the bus driver asked if we would like to stop at the museum store, which is in a hangar on the flight line. In here was the ex-Palmdale Blackbird Airpark F-117A and you could take photos.

Far more fun is to sit and wait for a flying one, as described in the link above, they appear to be reasonably active around the Nellis ranges. Either that, or we are exceptionally lucky to sit in the desert near the Little A'Le Inn for a day on 2 out of 3 occasions over the last 3 years and see an active F-117A, including one refuelling from a KC-10A.

I suggest staying at Windmill Ridge which is nicer accommodation than the A'Le Inn and is east abeam Groom Lake, get up at 0600 and look due west towards Groom Lake. Over the mountains you may be treated to 1 on 1 dogfighting between Su-27 or MiG-29 and F-15s; the Russian types tend to be active early. Then make your way up to Rachel, NV and park up somewhere peaceful a little to the north of here to watch the skies. You should get the fighters from Nellis playing war games which is entertaining in itself. When there's a quiet spell, that's the time to watch for F-117A or something interesting.

A scanner loaded with the range frequencies may help and is interesting listening; when the chatter dies off, that either means that there's nothing going on or that something interesting is up there but maybe on a discrete frequency. Just remember that the wind can be noisy and that F-117As at FL220 are small, quiet and tricky to spot.

I'm sure they operate from Groom Lake but climbing Tikaboo Peak won't give you much of a better view unless you like listening to the Tower and seeing a speck on the runway. Others say the F-117As are operational from Tonopah Test Range, in which case climbing Brainwash Butte is far easier, the base much closer and quite an enjoyable day (take a picnic in either case) as TTR has the CT-43A 73-1155 and various other things to watch.

If you need any more help let me know via PM or [email protected]

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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:07 pm

Ooops, correction to my last, you cannot take photos of the F-117A or anything else once on Edwards base (including the museum).
 
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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:35 am

realy?? NO PHOTOS? why?! they're verry old and prety aircrafts there! there's nothing secret in old airplanes!
so there are only 4 F-117 and only one which is able to be photographed is fron the dark USAF museum with no sun shine?
 
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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:51 pm

Quoting ftzvika (Reply 8):
realy?? NO PHOTOS? why?! they're verry old and prety aircrafts there! there's nothing secret in old airplanes!

Because they are on an active duty Air Force base, one used for, among other things, to test new and experimental equipment. It's not an issue of taking pictures of the old airplanes outside the museum, it's the possibility that you may take photos of something you shouldn't. Rather than look over your shoulder while you shoot, they simply prohibit photography on base.
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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:57 pm

Ftzvika,
Don't be so quick to disregard the advice in Moose's first post. With a tripod, shots in a darkened setting are no problem. The NMUSAF is certainly one of the world's best and has the largest collection of stealth (and stealthy) aircraft including the F-117, B-2, F-22, Darkstar, YF-23, Bird of Prey, YF-12, D-21, and SR-71.

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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:03 pm

just that i feal verry verry bad about the fack i knew the F-117 in Blackbird park from years, but now that i finaly managed to go there it's gone! there's no F-117 anyplace with sunshine lights on him! with blue sky and beutifull location as it was! i just feal realy bad that i missed it!!

it was perfect for photos! and i see no other F-117 which can replace him.that's why i sad about thisthing!
 
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RE: How To Photo F-117?

Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:49 pm

An F-117 in sunlight is out of place. They're creatures of the night!

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