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AndersNilsson
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US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:55 am

It used to be a no problem area. http://tass.ru/en/politics/862574
 
sovietjet
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:03 am

I've been at this base myself as a foreigner and it is unfortunate this happened. Like you said it was never a problem. However, I think (and hope) this was simply an unlucky coincidence and not a precedent. It's a great place to spot classic Soviet hardware.
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:52 am

Great name for a photographer!

I wouldn't be surprised if they were more concerned about the radio than taking photos. I've actually been on two organised tours inside Chkalovsky and had understood that photography from the outside was OK.

Anyway, glad they acted reasonably and released him. I wonder if he still has his photos?

[Edited 2016-03-16 02:53:04]
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:20 am

Quoting scbriml (Reply 2):
Great name for a photographer!

Heh, totally missed that at first.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 2):
I wouldn't be surprised if they were more concerned about the radio than taking photos

Yep. While in India you will most certainly get picked up for shooting, the last time foreign spotters were actually arrested (as opposed to escorted away or simply detained) it was because they were using radios. That's a no-go according to some obscure section of an archaic law, but it's on the books, so they were screwed.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/briti...plane-spotters-to-walk-free-412111

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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:22 pm

"Hi-tech equipment used for recording conversation between the ATC and the pilot, besides a high-power binocular, was recovered from the possession of Hampston and Martin."

Poor guys had Phuck with them to view the traffic on the laptop. I don't think they had any scanners with them.

As for high power binoculars. How many Amps does it take to make low power binoculars into high power.
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:34 pm

Quoting dcaviation (Reply 4):

Just goes goes to show how poorly understood this hobby is... :/

A
 
sovietjet
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:19 pm

Quoting scbriml (Reply 2):
I wonder if he still has his photos?

Yes
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:46 am

Quoting sovietjet (Reply 6):
Yes

Yes, you wonder? Or yes, he does?

If the latter, how do you know?
 
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kulverstukas
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:31 pm

Last two years Chkalovsky is quite unsafe for any spotters, including locals. It doesn't helps also that this guy used natural gas switching station as spotting post (with definitely "restricted area" and "do not cross" signs at the fences). On the other hand, he was not "arrested", but seized by police after some fuel station worker reported him (and not by military patrol of the base which commonly catch local spotters lately).

As for Mozdok incident both that spotters are from embassy military mission and it's not a better place for spotting, than, say, any military airstrip near Israeli - Palestinian border also doesn't make things easier  

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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:46 pm

Paul's a nice guy - I hope he's ok. But I guess he might not be welcome in Russia again!
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:08 am

Quoting AndyEastMids (Reply 9):
Paul's a nice guy - I hope he's ok.

BTW, they mentioned his photos at internet on TV, can we have a link to his page on A.net, or other spotters resources?

Quoting AndyEastMids (Reply 9):
But I guess he might not be welcome in Russia again!

Don't think so, not more so as if he had been fined for red light crossing.
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:40 pm

Quoting scbriml (Reply 7):

Because Sovietjet, and others of us on this forum, know the guy in question.

Quoting kulverstukas (Reply 10):
BTW, they mentioned his photos at internet on TV, can we have a link to his page on A.net, or other spotters resources?

You can surely find him by googling the name in the article. It's not my place to share Paul's work. To my knowledge he has never uploaded here (like many good spotters)
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:15 pm

I managed to find only 500px page. Great photos, BTW.
 
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RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:40 pm

It was always not easy to make photography aroud military airfields in Russia (like in many other countries btw) but last years were more or less flex for photographers. This certain case had happened right after another one:
http://tass.ru/en/world/862392

So it can be related as they were looking for other 'spies'.

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