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From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:29 pm
by MinorLogan
Hi, airliners,
Recently I plan to have an upgrade in my equipments. Currently I possess a Nikon D7100 with a Tamron 70-300mm Lens(A009). And I think the most appropriate choice is Canon EOS 7D2, considering my wallet. Do you think it is a good choice for plane spotting? I heard that the AF of 7D mark 2 is fantastic, but at he same time, the performance of high ISO is not very good, just like the EOS 70D... Is it enough for plane spotting in days?
Also, about the lens. If I choose Canon, there are two choice for spotting planes. The Canon 70-200mm 2.8L USM (without IS) or the Canon 100-400mm F4.5-5.6L IS USM. Could you please give me some advice?
Thanks!

Dickson

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:39 pm
by scopedude
Hi Dickson,

Rather than 70-200/2.8 L, you should try the 70-200/4 IS and 70-300L. I had the first and sold it after I got the 70-300L. The f4 IS is better than the 2.8L IMO. 70-300L wins in size when retracted, has better color and contrast (plus 300mm).

I also have 70-200/2.8 L II that I don't use much for spotting. If you can stretch your budget, 100-400L II is a superb lens.

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:41 am
by vikkyvik
Quoting MinorLogan (Thread starter):
Is it enough for plane spotting in days?

Well, during the day, you won't be needing high ISO, so yes, it'll be fine.

That said, I bet the high ISO capability of the 7D2 is not terrible...

Quoting MinorLogan (Thread starter):
The Canon 70-200mm 2.8L USM (without IS) or the Canon 100-400mm F4.5-5.6L IS USM. Could you please give me some advice?

Those are two very different focal length ranges. No point in buying a 70-200 if you need 400mm.

So I'd figure that out before you decide which lens to get.

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:13 am
by seahawk
Why would you switch the brand? What is missing from the D7100?

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:14 am
by angad84
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
That said, I bet the high ISO capability of the 7D2 is not terrible...

Self plug, but I can confirm the 7D2 and 100-400L Mk.II do quite well in low light


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The real advantage of the 7D2, IMO, is the AF system, as it has no problem focusing quickly and accurately in difficult conditions. Shooting aircraft in broad daylight with a decent zoom lens is hardly a punishing test of photographic equipment.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
Those are two very different focal length ranges. No point in buying a 70-200 if you need 400mm.

Agreed. I think the 100-400 is a fair bit more versatile, as it covers a lot of the 70-200 range, and adds a LOT at the long end, and the narrower aperture isn't so much of an issue when shooting in the day.

But in the end OP will have to look at his shots and see what focal length he is most often shooting at.

Quoting seahawk (Reply 3):
Why would you switch the brand? What is missing from the D7100?

That's the real question. The D7100 is, by all accounts, a very capable camera.

Cheers
Angad

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:49 pm
by iamlucky13
I can't imagine you're having trouble with the D7100 keeping focus. Even fighter jets don't move fast enough to outpace an autofocus system designed to track birds moving erratically in flight.

The main challenge these days is managing the autofocus system to ensure you're in the most appropriate mode for the situation and initially locking on with the correct AF point. That's mainly a matter of learning all the different features of your specific camera's autofocus system, how to adjust the settings as needed quickly, and what situations each mode is best for.

To that end, if the Canon interface is more intuitive to you, switching might be worthwhile. The problem is it's hard to make an educated decision about that without using both systems extensively.

I can readily believe the 7D Mark II AF system can outperform the D7100's to a degree that an advanced user can appreciate, but beginning or even most intermediate users probably will probably not see a meaningful difference in the percentage of photos that have the focus point where they wanted it.

Using DPreview's comparison tool, the 7D II high ISO performance seems extremely similar to the D7100. In other words, excellent for both cameras and able to produce A.net quality photos well into evening. A single studio comparison is not valid for all cases, but it suggests you won't see a major difference from switching.

I'm not opposed to switching. I just think it's worth having a clear idea what you're trying to achieve if you do switch.

Otherwise, my recommendation for gear investments leans more towards lenses than replacing a fairly new body.

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:10 pm
by seahawk
If you consider that the AF is similar to the D300S and the AF module has only just been replaced as the best Nikon has with the D5 and the D500 and as I shoot a Nikon D300S, D800 and D7200 I can hardly see where the AF would not be good enough for spotting.

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:04 pm
by MinorLogan
Quoting scopedude (Reply 1):

Thanks! I am considering the 100-400mmL II~

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:08 pm
by MinorLogan
Quoting seahawk (Reply 3):

Haha, I wanna try another brand. The D7100 is really a good DSLR  

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:12 pm
by MinorLogan
Quoting iamlucky13 (Reply 5):

Thanks very much for your professional reply! I will consider it 

RE: From Nikon D7100 To Canon EOS 7D Mark 2?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:07 am
by yousaf465
Recently I shoot a event with a team of photographers, what I have seen is even a D5500 outperform the canon 70D in low light.

P.S I was shooting with Canon 70D.