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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:34 am

How about this one?

Hope I've got the contrast right....

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:36 am

It's oversharpened (jagies on the titles, tail and some other places), a bit low in frame, dirty (dust spot top middle sky) and halos around the aircraft. All are fixable though.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:13 am

Is this picture 'good to go?'

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Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:07 pm

Low in frame, top of the fuselage looks soft/blurry and overexposed.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:55 am

Re-done both pictures...

Good to go? Thanks again.

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:55 pm

A380: low in frame, halos around the aircraft and a dust spot top middle sky.
B787: halos on top of the front half fuselage. Otherwise looks OK.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:54 am

What do the forum think of this photo...

Is the crop ok - if a little different....and quality?

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:54 pm

and is the cropping and quality ok on this VS A330?

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Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:24 pm

Sky has obvious noise in your 787 photo, as well as borderline blurry on top of both the engine pylon and fuselage; quality is probably marginal.
The A330 looks fine to me, but I'm not much good of a screener; I'd let the other screeners look at it and give their opinions on it.
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Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:35 am

Crop on the BA 787 is ok. Although quality looks 50/50. Sky looks a bit blotchy in some areas.

The VS A333 has halos around parts of the aircraft.
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:06 am

The first photo was rejected for being soft, dark, and underexposed.

In the 2nd photo, I've added a touch of brightness, and also sharpened a bit more. Is it now up to scratch for the database?

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:53 am

The first one isn't really too dark/underexposed for me, but it is quite (too) yellow.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:17 am

Beautiful winter's sunny day at Heathrow today (and quite warm too).

Is the crop ok on this photo? - Wanted to include the tower in the picture...

Any other comments?

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:55 pm

Also can I check that this photo is ok - not too much yellow hope - it was a beautiful sunny autumn afternoon with that sun low in the sky giving this beautiful yellow cast.

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Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:40 pm

El Al: Too much empty space between the tower and aircraft. Will be a motive rejection for that.
BA: I'd crop a bit closer on the right (right after the inner flap track fairing) and add a bit mroe red (it's currently slightly green on my screen).
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:54 am

Just has this rejected for being blurry.

How can one tell if a picture is blurry? - Simply with the naked eye, or would one have to look at it with editing software?

Where is it blurry in this pic, and can it be fixed? How come I didn't notice that it's blurry?

Thanks guys... 4 photos in the database....getting there...slowly!

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Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:40 am

The Virgin Atlantic title may be a bit soft, but other than that, I couldn't tell by the naked eye. Is it worth an appeal, perhaps? If not, I would try downsizing to 1024 wide, depending on your current size of the rejected photo.
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Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:05 am

The tail part does seem to be bit of blurry. Besides, serious halos surround the whole a/c in this case. Also bit of underexposed.
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:44 am

OK - Can I chime in on this photo, gentlemen?

Is the crop acceptable? - I can't see any halos, and I don't believe it's blurry...please confirm - thank you...

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Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:10 am

Not sure how I feel about the engine being cut off.
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:24 am

It's a bit soft and blurry (blurryness starting at the wing and towards the lef tof the frame. I'd also use a 3:2 ratio crop to include the full engine #2.
 
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:40 am

Can I chime in on this one gentlemen...

Thanks.

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:51 pm

and this one too...

Thanks again

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:33 pm

Based on my best screening abilities possible:

The UA 767 is a bit blurry in the tail area;
The BA 747 has low contrast, as it looks a bit flat.

Any other screeners are welcome to chime in their opinions.
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:18 pm

The United 767 was shot at f/10, as I was aiming for as sharp a shot as possible. I would have thought the blur at the rear is from the engine exhaust. Let's see...
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:56 pm

ajaaron wrote:
The United 767 was shot at f/10, as I was aiming for as sharp a shot as possible. I would have thought the blur at the rear is from the engine exhaust. Let's see...


Might be so; I'm not the person to screen photos but I feel that this slight blur even on the registration worries me quite a bit.
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:30 pm

UA: a bit underexposed and very jaggy windows. Also quite soft for the rest and it almost looks like too much noise reduction was used. It looks fuzzy and I don't know what the cause is. The engine exhaust is no issue at all.

The BA is low contrast and soft too (especially the nose).
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:06 am

Evening all.

I seem to be having trouble identifying when a shot is blurry, (shots I thought were crisp and sharp you guys have told me are blurry) and I'm also not spotting when halos are present....

Perhaps you could give me your opinions on these...

Kind thanks for your patience...

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Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:48 pm

And another one if I may... what do you guys make of this one?

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:18 pm

I'm not sure if it's just me but I think you need to look at your aspect ratio - try cropping at 3:2

What lens are you using? Are you cropping heavily?
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:48 pm

Airplanepics wrote:
I'm not sure if it's just me but I think you need to look at your aspect ratio - try cropping at 3:2

We've been accepting 16:9 for a long time now and it's up to the photographer what ratio he/she uses. The limits are listed on the upload page.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:25 pm

Germanwings: blurry and soft (unfixable).
El Al: oversharpened, especially the wing edges & hor.stab.
Etihad: soft and the highlights on the nose are blown.
BA: blurry and soft.
AA: blurry and soft.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:38 am

Can I check this one out please. just trying something a little different...

Hopefully this one isn't too soft or blurry. Please advise. Is it my equipment that is letting me down? - Im using a Canon 1200D, with a Sigma 150-600mm.

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Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:55 pm

Hello ajaaron (sorry, is it Arnold or Aaron?).

I have been interested to follow your photos on this thread. It looks to me as though you have some editing issues going on. I am not familliar enough with your camera body and lens combination to know how significant a part they may be playing in the issues you are encountering (I do use Canon myself). You certainly have some lovely lighting in your recent shots here. For example, the El Al 787 looks to be very good, but things are oversharpened. Can you see the jaggies created by oversharpening in the titles, and on the edge of the livery (for example, just above the engine)? The Etihad A380 shot posted underneath the El Al looks to have potential too.

I saw earlier in the thread that you are using Canon's software for your editing. My hunch is that this may be a factor (are you generally using noise reduction as well?). I would be very happy to do an edit or two for you from original files if you would like to see what I come up with in Photoshop - I could let you know the steps I take. Just let me know (you can see the photos I am taking via my profile/Manchester).

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P.S. I forgot to say that the latest Etihad A380 shot is generally soft, but I am wondering whether noise reduction may be a factor here as well.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:12 pm

Hi Paul,
that is so kind of you! - I will get some RAW files over to you when back at my desktop. Actually I never use noise reduction (am generally using low ISO) but I suspect the Canon software is responsible somewhat, just as you suggest. The only tools I use within it are sharpening, (the software sharpens the whole photo) contrast, brightness, highlights, and shadow. - Sometimes I'll bump up the saturation just a little to add depth of colour.

I spent a couple of days up in Manchester back in August at that famous spotting area by the threshold of 23L, but unfortunately when I was there didn't see any sun at all - just cloud and rain!

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Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm

Hi Arnold.

I have been in touch via PM. Looking forward to hearing from you about the photos.

I’m sorry you had to experience more 'normal' Manchester weather on your trip - unfortunately that is much more normal than the sunny weather my photos suggest. I just pick my times to go! I'm lucky to be local.

I hope I can help.

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:32 pm

The A380 looks blurry/soft and in some places jaggy. Really at a loss as to why, as conditions seem perfect. Perhaps Paul can make some sense of it.
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:55 am

A big thanks to Paul Markman (aka Psych) who has kindly re-edited some of my photos above...here's what he has come up with. I think the problem I have is that I'm not using the best software for editing. Canon photo professional does not have selective sharpening, and I can't raise or lessen the blacks and whites either, nor is the equalize function on it. so it's my post process which is limiting my pics...

Also I crop first, edit and then convert to jpg, at which point it then asks me what size to scale it down to... - Anyway, here they are...

Kas - would be interested to hear your thoughts again on these re-edits - thank you...

and thank you Paul!

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:35 am

EL Al: looks better and passable
Etihad: green and there is a thin white halo(?) around the back of the tail. Not sure what that is. Also a bit noisy underside of the fuselage & wing.
BA: 777: looks passable, although I would personally tweak the color balance a little bit more to the magenta side.
Eurowings: sharp areas (especially on the forward fuselage), maybe too OS (I am usually above average lenient regarding OS).
BA 747: passable
United: very nice, but a bit too yellow.
Ryanair: sharp aft section. Passable for me, but not sure if that's also the case for others.
Etihad: soft fuselage.

Definitely improvement over the previous versions! Perhaps time to get a copy of Photoshop or the likes? Widely available on the web as well if budget doesn't allow ;)
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:22 pm

Okee-dokee...

Now trying out Photoshop for the first time (thank you Paul - your edits for me are uploading to the queue), and what an amazing difference it is....

To that end, just wanting to check this one....

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:30 am

Quite soft. Are you shooting RAW? What sharpening settings/methods are you using?
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:30 am

Whole image looks blurry unfortunately.
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Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:31 am

The BA777 looks out of focus. Nothing to be done about that unfortunately.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:54 am

Ok - I'll try again with this one....this one edited using Lightroom...

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:30 pm

Hello Arnold.

That BA 777 does look blurry and soft I am afraid. I will happily look at the original again, just to check how that looks. Out of interest, do you see the blurriness to which we are referring? For example, the flightdeck windows and the nosegear are clearly not right. I am keen to know that you are seeing things on your screen as I am here. Given the quality of the originals you previously sent, I would be surprised with this amount of blur. What was the shutter speed here?

As for your BA 787, that doesn't have the same problem. However, there are elements which I would say are a little oversharpened. You can see small jaggies on the demarcation between blue and white on the fuselage, especially towards the front area. The problem you may find with Lightroom is that it does not have layers, which is a very useful feature in Photoshop. Layers allow you to apply sharpening to a layer (effectively a copy of the photo), but then erase areas where that sharpening is too much, producing jaggies, to reveal the unsharpened original photo (layer) beneath. If you have Photoshop and Lightroom I would recommend editing for the site using Photoshop for this reason alone.

I'll happily do an edit for you of this 787 and then you can compare it with what you produce.

Let me know if I can help some more.

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:18 pm

HI Paul!

Oddly enough the 777 I edited using photoshop. It looked beautifully crisp and in focus within photoshop, but when I saved it, all of a sudden it lost some sharpness to give this blurry image. Been busy on the work front so haven't had a chance to go back and see what happened when I saved it, but I shot it at 1/800.

As for layers, yes, been looking at some youtube videos on how to do that to do selective sharpening...fascinating.

Will be bombarding your inbox soon with some more to work on for me!

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:46 pm

Would be grateful for your thoughts on this special paint Germanwings A320...

(Paul, I hope to dig out a few more for you from that sunny day at Heathrow)

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:13 am

I've actually brightened it up a little here...please ignore the one above....

Not too bright I hope. Hopefully Im getting close to being able to do this self-sufficiently... Thanks in advance.

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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:08 pm

The brighter version is definitely better and looks passable to me.
 
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Re: Are the motives and crop on these photos acceptable?

Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:38 pm

Quick question - would these 2 count for being a double? Or, are they different enough to have to have the 2nd one accepted?

Obviously same sequence of photos, but completely different motive/presentation of aircraft. Thanks.

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