JakTrax wrote:An interesting topic; allow me to give you my take on this, as a once regular uploader......
Aviation photography has become a competition, and I find myself increasingly wanting to be alone at the airport, away from those who are only interested in hits. here's nothing wrong per se with hit-seeking, however I feel that it totally undermines the basic ethos of the hobby. People have, I find, generally become less friendly, and far more prone to conflict with other photographers. Self-promotion is the order of the day, as opposed to a shared interest that should be creating bonds rather than shattering them.
There are people who zoom off home a nanosecond after the day's star visitor, eager to get the first image online - each to his/her own but is this really an interest in aviation or an interest in one-upmanship? Maybe both at best?
JakTrax wrote:On a final note - and perhaps a thought for a separate debate - I can't help but feel that the screening here is now a case of (mainly) young guys, perhaps with a point to prove, trying their hardest to find fault with our images. I may well be wide of the mark but it's unrealistic to think that every screener is always 100% fair and impartial.
JakTrax wrote:...evidence suggests that some do indeed look to reject rather than accept. You only need look in this forum to see some of the ridiculous rejections, many of which are overturned by way of appeal.....clickhappy wrote:The quality of the images being accepted are nowhere near what they were ten years ago, good or bad that's just how it is.
JakTrax wrote:A good way to perhaps partially answer this question is to determine how many of these individuals were present on the scene during the film/slide era - again, not a conclusive method but it could offer some insight.
JakTrax wrote:I've witnessed people arguing with each other (with venom, I might add!) over who got a photo uploaded or published first. It's pathetic, frankly.
JakTrax wrote:The gist is that some people only seem interested in taking photos of aircraft (and other things, for that matter) because of the exposure/views it gets them.
Kaphias wrote:JakTrax wrote:The gist is that some people only seem interested in taking photos of aircraft (and other things, for that matter) because of the exposure/views it gets them.
Allow me to take this concept and turn it sideways, Karl. I take photos because I enjoy creating beautiful images. That's why I have many of my photos on the walls of my apartment, even though almost no one besides myself ever sees them. I also find immense enjoyment in sharing my photos with others, because I like seeing the emotions they can evoke. That's why I actively share my photos here, on Instagram, and in a few Facebook groups. So while I'm not only interested in photography for the views, the act of sharing and getting views does bring me much joy.
johnr wrote:There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that there is an element of the screener group that screen to reject.
johnr wrote:Whilst on the subject of empirical evidence and on a similar note to my initial response to this thread I’ve been uploading to this site for over ten years now. In 2013 I had 427 shots accepted, 2014. - 359, 2015 - 317, 2016 - 252, 2018 a lowly 125 and so far in 2019 a total of ZERO.
johnr wrote:The site has become an exclusive boys club and the rest of us are just here to make up the numbers.
johnr wrote:In my view the site is in terminal decline and just waiting for the owners to unplug the life support. I hope I’m wrong because I don’t want my efforts of the last ten years to simply evaporate into cyberspace.
jelpee wrote:These numbers may be skewed towards the high side since it includes head screeners who typically handle appeals only.
Year / Photos
A.net // competitor
2018: 98,850 // 312,278
2017: 123,316 // 306,662
2016: 131,875 // 276,993
2015: 165,152 // 223,387
2014: 172,624 // 210,044
2013: 162,993 // 212,017
2012: 160,432 // 232,390
2011: 191,790 // 262,879
2010: 195,331 // 262,924
2009: 172,136 // 294,753
2008: 138,245 // 303,444
2007: 142,903 // 255,898
2006: 157,035 // 237,106
2005: 215,826 // 198,226
2004: 226,616 // 186,825
2003: 152,882 // 143,566
2002: 72,053 // 29,509
2001: 52,911 // 8,427
2000: 53,632 // 5,163
1999: 38,505 // 4,689
1998: 23,205 // 4,916
JakTrax wrote:But I'd like to elaborate a little and ask exactly what is creative?
JakTrax wrote:But again, everyone's copied it and the result, as far as I can see, is little more than a competition to see who's got the best full-frame camera and f/2.8 glass. I personally don't find these high-ISO night shots aesthetic - they just never look crisp and half the detail's missing - but each to his/her own. Are they creative? Not really. Challenging for sure, but I don't think creative.
JakTrax wrote:ask exactly what is creative?
airkas1 wrote:But perhaps Thierry can elaborate a bit on what he meant with creative photos.
Psych wrote:The feeling is mutual, Paul.Great to hear from you Thierry.
I am well aware that widening the site's photographic horizon would come with its own challenges and it won't bring us the big photo numbers to compensate for the guys who leave for JP and FR24 to get their view counts up. But we could make a name for ourselves for being THE site to see great aviation photography. Think 'niche'.
Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe
Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days
Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit
Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior
Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft
Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials
Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions
Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin
Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon
Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos
Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft
Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries
Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground
Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos