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Pre-Screen KPDX

Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:48 pm

Hello all.

While it's already been screened, I'll start with the following image that was rejected.

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Reasons:

- Blurry
- Category
- CW Rotation
- Oversharpened

Some insight about the settings I used:

1/1000
f/7.1
450mm focal length
ISO 125

I can't seem to get a proper reference to rotate it clockwise, otherwise it feels even more uneven to me. Lastly, I'm looking at resizing the photo down to 1200 px, but I feel it makes the details look even more blurry. Is this photo a lost cause? :)

Thanks,

Dylan
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:10 pm

Hi Dylan,

I screened this photo. Took the liberty to check it in Photoshop just now; it needs about 1.0 CW rotation. At 1200px, it still looks a bit marginal. Perhaps sharpening it less may make it look a bit better, but it could also show the blurryness more. I can't check that, since I can't unsharpened your edit.
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:38 pm

Kas,

Thank you very much for your response. I've resized the photo, gone a little easier on the sharpening, and rotated it.

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It was shot at a fairly large difference (from the parking garage) so I guess the details can only be so good.

Thanks!
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:00 pm

i still think it looks a little oversharpened in my opinion
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:04 am

Sharpening is passable for me. Still needs CW rotation...the building appear to be leaning to the left.Some noise visible in the sky as well.

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:16 pm

Hello, I am going to submit the below shot. Just curious if you think there are any glaring issues prior to submitting.. The watermark will be gone, of course. Thanks!


ImageDSC_5597 copy by Dylan Phelps, on Flickr
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:37 pm

Looks over sharpened: jaggies visible in many places such as the cockpit windows, the red band across the fuselage, landing gear,etc Although not a show stopper, the image is somewhat right in the frame and high in the frame.

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:01 pm

jelpee wrote:
Looks over sharpened: jaggies visible in many places such as the cockpit windows, the red band across the fuselage, landing gear,etc Although not a show stopper, the image is somewhat right in the frame and high in the frame.

Jehan


Thank you much, Jehan. I appreciate the info. Here's another crack at it:

Imagep3 by Dylan Phelps, on Flickr
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:13 am

Still a bit OS maybe, but would be passable for me. Nice shot!

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:04 pm

JKPhotos wrote:
Still a bit OS maybe, but would be passable for me. Nice shot!

Julien


Thanks, Julien!

I have uploaded it so fingers crossed.

Thanks for all of your help.
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:57 pm

You are welcome. Would be a worthy addition IMO.
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:29 pm

The last version is fine in terms of centering and I love the composition. But I can't shake the feeling that it looks a bit oversharpened to compensate blur. I'm 50/50 on the probability of asking for another opinion if I came across it during screening. However, I would leave it in the queue and see what happens.
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:23 pm

airkas1 wrote:
The last version is fine in terms of centering and I love the composition. But I can't shake the feeling that it looks a bit oversharpened to compensate blur. I'm 50/50 on the probability of asking for another opinion if I came across it during screening. However, I would leave it in the queue and see what happens.


Thanks Kas. I'll leave it in. I actually didn't add very much sharpening, so I suppose next time I'll just resize it down to 1250px and not sharpen and see how it turns out. I definitely understand what you mean, though!


Here's another one I'm going to resubmit. It has been rejected 3 or 4 times. Mostly for contrast, and then finally that it too was too sharp as a result of increasing the contrast repeatedly. This is with VERY little sharpening added. Please let me know if there are any glaring issues or if it's worth resubmitting. I really like this perspective so I've really wanted this photo added!

ImageS80 by Dylan Phelps, on Flickr


Just for comparison, here is the same photo with zero sharpening.

ImageDSC_0032 by Dylan Phelps, on Flickr

Even Flickr degrades the quality a bit so let me know if any of you want the original JPG or if there's a better website to share the full resolution.
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:27 pm

The Mad Dog looks over-sharpened to me. Does your camera applying sharpening? if yes, perhaps set it to "Neutral" and add sharpening as part of your post processing.

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:37 pm

No sir. No sharpening added automatically.. . I do my post-editing through Photoshop CC. I have been using the texture slider in the raw filter... here it is without the texture slider applied (and without sharpening). Any better?

ImageS80 Test by Dylan Phelps, on Flickr
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:26 pm

Hmm..still has a raspy look to it...especially visible on the insignia on the tail. Perhaps it is the harsh lighting. If it has been screened multiple times and declined, tis one may be best for your personal album,

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:06 pm



Woohoo! Thank you all for your pointers and help. I'm learning a lot as I go. :)
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:20 pm

Hello all,

This was rejected for oversharpened and because of the glare on the canopy. Ironically, I chose this photo because I think "eclipse" effect on the canopy is exactly what makes this photo artistic and a little bit unique (considering it's the world's only flying civillian F-4). I love how it silhouettes the pilots and displays the scuff marks on the canopy. Before I reupload this photo without so much sharpening, is the flare on the canopy really that much of a deal breaker? I'm actually really surprised by this decision.

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Thanks as always!
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:57 pm

Here is the next photo in the sequence. Is this preferable?

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:06 pm

I like # 2 better. It silhouettes the pilots very clearly. Comparing the two, the sun glare is distracting for me. I see some noise on the aircraft though. Otherwise, looks good.

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:11 pm

jelpee wrote:
I like # 2 better. It silhouettes the pilots very clearly. Comparing the two, the sun glare is distracting for me. I see some noise on the aircraft though. Otherwise, looks good.

Jehan


Roger that. Thanks for the advice Jehan!

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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:35 am

I was the one who initially rejected the first photo and still stand by that, sorry. I agree #2 looks nicer. I see some light colored halos around the aircraft in #2 though?
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:07 pm

airkas1 wrote:
I was the one who initially rejected the first photo and still stand by that, sorry. I agree #2 looks nicer. I see some light colored halos around the aircraft in #2 though?


The sun is directly behind the aircraft, so I believe that is what is causing that effect around the aircraft, sorta like an eclipse. There actually wasn't too much editing done to the photo. I can submit the original if it helps. Thanks!
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:11 pm

Yeah, that was my thought as well (sun directly behind). Makes the most sense.
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:29 pm

airkas1 wrote:
I was the one who initially rejected the first photo and still stand by that, sorry. I agree #2 looks nicer.


No need to be sorry. We all have different perspectives and standards. It would be boring if we all thought exactly the same all the time. ;)
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:58 pm

Well... it was rejected (partially) for having halos, when in reality, it was in the original photo. The sun is directly behind the aircraft.

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Here is the unedited photo. The only thing I've done is equlized it. This is a natural phenomenon. Nothing editing-induced.

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And to go over it even more, here's the next photo in the sequence, only equalized.

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I have appealed in the mean time.. Thank you as always!
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:27 pm

Hello.

I received a rejection for the following photo for blurry. Full disclosure, I don't use a great monitor for editing photos, but I'm having trouble seeing the blurriness. Is there anything that can be done?

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Here is a screenshot of the original RAW file:

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Thank you as always!
 
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:29 am

TO me it starts to get blurry around the tail. However, i'm not a fan of the crop, very loose.
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Re: Pre-Screen KPDX

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:04 am

Tail is blurry for me. I would crop closer to the engines and avoid the premature clipping of the horizontal stabilizer on the left side.

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