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Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:52 pm
by r5k
Hi

So I re edited to fix the banding and it got rejected again today as soft and a personal mesage:
The Screener left a comment regarding this photo: "No banding to be seen. Quite soft though."

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So I have edited it again with another pass of selected sharpening but I am worried about it being oversharpened and Jaggies what do you think?

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Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:54 pm
by r5k
Anyone?

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:54 pm
by jelpee
Looks OK to me Richard.

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:45 pm
by r5k
Rejected again as soft:

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Looks OK to me Richard.

Jehan


Should I appeal it or is it too soft?

Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:27 pm
by jelpee
The image in your last post looks a bit flat compared to what I commented on. Sometimes low contrast looks soft. Not sure if when uploading your images are losing some quality. Based on the image in your last post, I would not appeal. I'm not sure why you images are deteriorating between what you show here and what is uploaded...but it is known to happen based on some profile settings in Adobe/Lightroom/Photoshop Elements. I use Photoshop Elements 11. If you use PSE, I'd be happy to share my "save" settings. PM me. Perhaps some other's can comment as well.

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:43 pm
by r5k
Hi Jehan

The only difference between the two should be that one is hosted on my webspace and the other is uploaded to Airliners.net. I copied the url from the rejected screen in my photo corner. Does the upload to airliners do some kind of proccessing on the image? I had an issue with the first image I uploaded this year not being in the sRGB colour space and looking pink on airliners after being accepted. I am using Adobe Lightroom and photoshop CC. I do most of my editing in lightroom and then open in Photoshop to sharpen and resize.

I have just put the two pictures into photoshop as two layers and done a difference blend and it shows the images as identical.

I have also done a new edit from scratch with more contrast. what do you think of this one?

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Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:32 am
by jelpee
Your last upload above looks fine to me. I responded to you PM separately as well.

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:19 pm
by r5k
Hi

I have added the last image to the queue

Your last upload above looks fine to me.


Does this still look ok?

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Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:20 pm
by r5k
Hi

I have added the last image to the queue

Your last upload above looks fine to me.


Does this still look ok?

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Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:44 pm
by jelpee
Looks acceptable to me Richard.

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:59 pm
by r5k
Hi

This got rejected as Soft, Under exposed and a personal message that the "sky too dark".

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I have edited it again, is this any better?

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Thanks
Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:19 pm
by r5k
Hi,

Got rejected again,
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From the email:

Here's why your photo was rejected:

- Oversharpened
- Personal Message

The Screener left a comment regarding this photo:
"Sorry, now oversharpened. Post this in the Forums and ask how to best edit to reduce jaggies and improve sharpness.
Please do not use Builder field."

jelpee wrote:
Looks acceptable to me Richard.

Jehan


Should I appeal the rejection or give up I've already posted it on the forum multiple times...

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:01 am
by jelpee
Not sure what more I can say other than I think it is acceptable. I cannot see any jaggies that would cause me to reject this image. I am at a loss to understand the oversharpening rejection. At this point, nothing lost in appealing.

Sorry that you're having so much trouble with this image.

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:15 am
by 310815
I fully agree with Jehan, to me it is not oversharpened, neither.

I would personally appeal it.

Julien

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:41 am
by airkas1
Doesn't look OS at all.

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:07 pm
by r5k
Hi



Thanks guys, it just got accepted on appeal, this photo is special for me. The first officer was a friend and we got to board early and visit flight deck before the flight.

Special thanks to Jehan for his patience.

Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:56 pm
by jelpee
Richard, that is great to hear. Actually, thanks to your patience with the apparent inconsistency in screening. Glad the appeal process came through for you and happy that the image got added.

Glad to have helped out a little!

Cheers,

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:21 am
by r5k
Hi

Got this rejected as overexposed underexposed and a personal message of back lit.

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The sun was high but behind me, I guess theres nothing I can do with this?

How about this edit?

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Rich

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:04 pm
by jelpee
Neither work for me Rich. #1 has a good portion of the aircraft facing the viewer in the shadow which is why it drew the underexposed/backlit rejection. The top looks overexposed to me as well. I'd say it is impossible to recover balanced lighting. Same for #2. Both images also look over-sharpened to compensate for blur.

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:00 pm
by r5k
Hi

So this one got rejected:

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- Low Contrast
- Motive
- Personal Message

The Screener left a comment regarding this photo:
"Too tight crop"

Never had a crop be too tight before on Airliners...

How is this re edit?

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Rich

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:04 am
by jelpee
Hi Rich,

The crop issue was a bit too picky IMO. The re-edit looks better though. However, contrast is low and parts of the a/c are blurry (tail section) with hints of oversharpening.

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:05 pm
by r5k
Thanks Jehan

guess its doomed if its got blury bits, how about this frame:

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Thanks

Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:24 pm
by jelpee
Hello Richard,

To my eyes, the latest edit still has the same issues: blurry/over-sharpened. Sorry :(

Jehan

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:19 pm
by r5k
Hi

Please can I an opinion on these 4 I was flying back to the UK yesterday and all of these were taken through glass which I haven't tried before?

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Thanks
Richard

Re: Pre screen - R5K

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:07 am
by HarryLi
Hello Richard,
Sorry for the late reply for this thread.
OR-ESO - Blurry, Underexposed, and soft.
Airport Overview is quiet dark for the whole image due to bad light angle I think. CW needed IMO.
OE-LBY - Blurry especially nose and tail.Center of body looks very soft.
OE-LBF - CW Rotation needed apparently. Very dark for the whole image. Motive might be given due to the reflection of gear lights on the ground for this case.
Hope can be helpful ; )

Regards,
Harry