Prescreening - PHXA332

colemcandrew · Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:01 am

Hey guys! Looking to get some confirmation on a few photos im looking to upload if anybody doesn't mind helping!

https://imgur.com/a/Q2gVUNw

https://imgur.com/jEvLLN8

https://imgur.com/a/C212mAf

Thanks!
Cole

airkas1 · Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:44 pm

Hi Cole,

The KC-135 looks marginal quality in general. with hints of blurryness/softness.
Delta looks marginal quality in general and hints of oversharpening.
Westjet looks a bit blurry and OS to compensate.

colemcandrew · Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:14 pm

Thank you so much! Sorry for late reply, been a bit inactive.

colemcandrew · Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:28 am

Recently went Air to Air at LAX, got some shots. Looking for anyone that wouldn't mind to check these.

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... c4bbf9fbdf

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... ffb08a33f2

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... fb6ed7d047

Thanks! Cole

airkas1 · Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:55 am

All 3 looks fine in terms of quality, but the ANZ and Asiana need a lot of CW rotation. I hope there is room for that in the original files.

colemcandrew · Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:19 pm

airkas1 wrote:
All 3 looks fine in terms of quality, but the ANZ and Asiana need a lot of CW rotation. I hope there is room for that in the original files.

There most definetally should be. Thanks for the help!

colemcandrew · Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:31 pm

Looked through some more photos and want to confirm these are okay!

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 9fa2e7abf7

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 2316ca9bd7

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 4c2c0690bb

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 6a6c92025d

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 81dc983324

Thanks!
Cole

colemcandrew · Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:46 am

Photos from my recent reply got screened, a few accepted.
New batch if anyone wouldn't mind taking a look and giving me an opinion.

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... d95ed6a24b

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 4fc2c241d6

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... b34868cecc

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 6263cb2181

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... b0228c314a

Thanks again! Cole

310815 · Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:31 am

Hi,

Delta 763: Blurry, soft. Not fixable.
Asiana 380: a bit underexposed, soft
KE380: passable
Volaris 320: Would sharpen the windows more
AA / PSA: Soft / flat (low contrast)

Julien

colemcandrew · Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:01 pm

JKPhotos wrote:
Hi,

Delta 763: Blurry, soft. Not fixable.
Asiana 380: a bit underexposed, soft
KE380: passable
Volaris 320: Would sharpen the windows more
AA / PSA: Soft / flat (low contrast)

Julien

Great thank you! So adding a bit more sharpening on Volaris would make it acceptable? Same with PSA, and adding more contrast and sharpening?

310815 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:49 pm

Hey,
The Volaris isn't far off, might be even acceptable as it is. To make sure I would recommend to sharpen the "window-line" more.
I think with some more sharpening and Contrast the PSA would be acceptable as well. Same for the Asiana if you add some exposure and sharpening. They are really not far off.

Cheers,
Julien

colemcandrew · Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:40 pm

JKPhotos wrote:
Hey,
The Volaris isn't far off, might be even acceptable as it is. To make sure I would recommend to sharpen the "window-line" more.
I think with some more sharpening and Contrast the PSA would be acceptable as well. Same for the Asiana if you add some exposure and sharpening. They are really not far off.

Cheers,
Julien

Thank you! I will make those fixes and resubmit.
Cole

colemcandrew · Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:19 am

Finally got to edit a few photos.
First of all, I had a priority photo of a KC135 lineup shot rejected for heat haze, but im unsure if its 100% fair. opinions would be helpful.
Link: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... c7d745a46a

Also recently threw these two in the queue. The edit was tough on the 330 but I think its acceptable. Please let me know, for Omni looking for general advice.
330 Link: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... ec70f19e77
Omni Link: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... c20a4253c4

Thanks!
Cole

jelpee · Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:58 pm

Hello Cole,

The KC135 looks hazed to the extent that the overall clarity of the image is poor. Image also looks like it could use some CW rotation. Agree with the screening result.
The DL 330 does not look good. It is over exposed, clarity and definition is poor, and the image has a blue color cast.
Omni 767:Very harsh lighting and heat hazed. Marginal for me.

Jehan

JakTrax · Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:28 am

While haze (and therefore distance) kills the Omni I think it's misleading to state that the light is harsh - there are images featuring much worse lighting that get in every day.

colemcandrew · Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:40 am

Thanks guys. I’ll see my other Omni shots and see what I can do.

Cole

colemcandrew · Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:02 am

Crosswindphoto · Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:58 am

Condor: Looks a little soft towards the front of the image.
Atlas: Poor light, also has a magenta colour cast, needs more green.
An124: Is the same Atlas photo, wrong link?
Korean: Passable I think, the colours look off a tiny bit, but probably passable.
Etihad 777: Possible light/motive rejection, most of the plane is in shadow, so it may vary screener to screener.
Air Tahiti: Something looks off about the front/titles. the nose looks blurry, while the titles look OS and Blurry.
Qantas: Borderline for Heat Haze, also a little flat.
Lufthansa: Looks ok.
EVA: Looks ok as well.

Tim

colemcandrew · Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:34 pm

Crosswindphoto wrote:
Condor: Looks a little soft towards the front of the image.
Atlas: Poor light, also has a magenta colour cast, needs more green.
An124: Is the same Atlas photo, wrong link?
Korean: Passable I think, the colours look off a tiny bit, but probably passable.
Etihad 777: Possible light/motive rejection, most of the plane is in shadow, so it may vary screener to screener.
Air Tahiti: Something looks off about the front/titles. the nose looks blurry, while the titles look OS and Blurry.
Qantas: Borderline for Heat Haze, also a little flat.
Lufthansa: Looks ok.
EVA: Looks ok as well.

Tim

Thank you so much!! I will probably throw away condor, attempt to fix atlas, i’ll throw the an124 in this forum post if anyone doesn’t mind checking it, remove ATN, and add one contrast ago qantas.

Antonov if anyone doesn’t mind looking at it
https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... ac154bf0f3

Thanks again Tim,
Cole

colemcandrew · Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:11 am

Threw a few more into the queue if anyone minds checking these.

N987AK: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 4ccde0b4ca

Qatar: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... d7a3400dd7

Aeroflot: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... e8ed18875d
Aeroflot maybe blurry? hard to tell from me...

Thanks,
Cole

colemcandrew · Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:49 am

Ignore recent post with 987 qatar and Aeroflot

colemcandrew · Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:18 am

Hi all, threw a few more shots into the queue which i’m looking for advice on.

KLM: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 8827ae2117
NetJets: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 05c248e40e
Kaiser: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 615e195e8c
727 N17773: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 98e3df6ca8

Thanks all,
Cole

Crosswindphoto · Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:25 am

KLM: Very Blue/Green, also quite compressed.
NetJets: HeatHaze, Compression, Could be a touch higher in frame as well.
737: Dark/Underexposed, Yellow colour cast, obstruction (GPU blocking the nose wheel.
727: Dark/Underexposed, yellow colour cast, also some compression in the sky.

Tim

colemcandrew · Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:25 pm

For KLM I will fix that.
Would the NetJets still be worth a try after fixing? As you said heat haze is an issue...
737: I can fix exposure, color cast, i’m guessing it’ll be borderline because of the GPU?
And 727 i will fix.

Thanks Tim,
Cole

Crosswindphoto · Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:14 pm

For NetJets at 1024px it just may be ok.
I don't think the 737 will be acceptable because of the GPU.

Tim

jelpee · Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:26 am

KLM 787 looks oversharpened. There are jaggies on the elading edge of the wings, main titles and landing gear.
The Netjets seems OK for me.
B737 : Agree with Tim that it is dead in the water due to the GPU obstruction.
B727 : Agree with Tim.

Jehan

colemcandrew · Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:15 am

Thanks all.

https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... fecca228ef

Looking better for the 727? I tried to remove yellow and added some exposure.

I will attempt 1000 for the net jets

jelpee · Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:37 am

727 still looks yellow to me. And some noise visible in the sky as well.

Jehan

colemcandrew · Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 am

I will fix tommorow. Exposure is better i will assume.

colemcandrew · Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:52 am

Had to bin the 727 for personal reasons,

Have a few new ones if anyone doesn't mind checking.

Kalitta: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... e0e2e39a4b

United: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... bb687b6c8b

Qatar: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... f2a1758e48

Fiji: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 5501fb8f67

Thanks!

Crosswindphoto · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:36 am

Kalitta: Very Blurry/OOF, very magenta colour, not fixable.

United: Passable.

Qatar & Fiji: both a touch OE, but easily fixable.

Tim

airkas1 · Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:35 am

I agree with Tim (with the note that a magenta color is fixable).

colemcandrew · Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:05 am

Thanks, I will make fixes to Fiji and Qatar and bin 734.

colemcandrew · Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:14 pm

Had the UA Max9 rejected for Soft and Vignetting. I guess I can see the vignetting but not really the softness.
Here’s the link again: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... bb687b6c8b

Worth an appeal? Or should I sharpen more and remove vignetting?

Thanks,
Cole

Crosswindphoto · Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:22 pm

Personally I'm not seeing Vignetting or Softness.
Though I would wait for a screener to chime in before you decide weather or not to appeal.

Tim

jelpee · Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:09 pm

The aircraft is over exposed which I think is contributing to the soft appearance. If you reduce the brightness, I expect it will look fine. There is some slight (albeit not fatal) vignetting in the upper corners.

Jehan

colemcandrew · Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:03 am

For United, I went in and brang down the brightness a bit.
https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 9944797db5
Looking better?

While im at it, another one I'd like confirmation on N30MP: https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... 94eee5e9b5

Thanks guys,
Cole

jelpee · Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:56 pm

Sorry, but the United B737 still looks overexposed and soft.

Re. the Jonas Bros 737, there's a distracting line of glare beneath the window line that will likely draw an overexposure rejection. I'm also not a fan of the crop showing half the aircraft.

Jehan

colemcandrew · Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:42 am

Ended up appealing the rejected one and getting an acception.
Thanks, I will bin the 727 and hope for next time for a better opportunity to shoot it.

Cole

colemcandrew · Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:59 am

Hey all, looking for prescreening on this E-3 photo
https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... d8d516e567
Thanks in advance, Cole

Crosswindphoto · Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:34 am

Looks a bit soft in my eyes, maybe a touch magenta as well.

otherwise fine.

Tim

colemcandrew · Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:48 am

Crosswindphoto wrote:
Looks a bit soft in my eyes, maybe a touch magenta as well.

otherwise fine.

Tim

Thank you

HarryLi · Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:55 am

Agree with Tim's point.

colemcandrew · Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:16 pm

Thank you both. When i resubmitted I resharpened with more added.

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