Hi,
I'd like to have your opionions about my recent oversharpened rejections. I do get them quite often by A.net, but never in other dbs.
To me the pics look good. Less sharpened would bo too soft imo.
Pls. check here and give me your personal opinion as detailed as you like.
https://abload.de/img/q33a7021-cr2_dxo_grosvpkyy.jpg
https://abload.de/img/q33a7318-cr2_dxo_gros0bj9z.jpg
https://abload.de/img/q33a7263-1grossfilterg2j83.jpg
Thank you for you effort in advance.
Rainer
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Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
Hello Rainer,
To me, they all look slightly oversharpened. I don't recall screening them. Hope this helps
John
To me, they all look slightly oversharpened. I don't recall screening them. Hope this helps
John
Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
Hi John,
thank you for your reply.
would it be possible to take one pic as example and point out the oversharpened area?
To me less sharpness would lead to soft rejections.
Brgds
Rainer
thank you for your reply.
would it be possible to take one pic as example and point out the oversharpened area?
To me less sharpness would lead to soft rejections.
Brgds
Rainer
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Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
Hi Rainer,
In the case of the first one, the Condor 757, the leading edges of the wings and stab and winglets are showing jaggies, not huge, but an indication of OS. Also, the titles are showing slight jaggies. There is often a fine line between OS and soft. I hope this helps you to see this
John
In the case of the first one, the Condor 757, the leading edges of the wings and stab and winglets are showing jaggies, not huge, but an indication of OS. Also, the titles are showing slight jaggies. There is often a fine line between OS and soft. I hope this helps you to see this
John
Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
Hi John,
thank you for your quick reply again.
Well, this is quite subjective imo.
So I keep them in my collection. Like I wrote already: Only by a.net have these problems.
For me at makes no sense to reedit them and to wait for screening for another app. two week for this minimal issue.
I simply have not the time for it too.
Good night
Rainer
thank you for your quick reply again.
Well, this is quite subjective imo.
So I keep them in my collection. Like I wrote already: Only by a.net have these problems.
For me at makes no sense to reedit them and to wait for screening for another app. two week for this minimal issue.
I simply have not the time for it too.
Good night
Rainer
Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
comet1 wrote:Hi John,
Well, this is quite subjective imo.
So I keep them in my collection. Like I wrote already: Only by a.net have these problems.
I can't agree more. Such a small difference on sharpening need to be a motive for a rejection? All the screeners uses the same screen model or they are also subjected to these small differences? Sometimes I got a lot of accepted photos in sequence, then suddenly I start to get rejections for oversharpened or soft. I swear that I try a lot to find the best sharpening, I use the same editing process, and even so my acceptance is inconsistent. For example:
This one is oversharpened according to the screening process:
https://i.imgur.com/ZV9tipi.jpeg
And this one is soft:
https://i.imgur.com/yW2pCDy.jpeg
On both of them I see some small jagged lines, even in the Cessna, that got a soft rejection, the N number, the stripes... but they're "ok". The borderline of sharpening appears to be too thin. I always send my photos for a "pre-screening" with a group of friends, and for them the sharpening is ok also.
And my biggest disappointment is that after all of this precision screening, the website convert many photos to .WEBP, throwing all of that effort for the perfect sharpening and all other details away. As webp ruin the image quality.
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Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
LGM wrote:Sometimes I got a lot of accepted photos in sequence, then suddenly I start to get rejections for oversharpened or soft. I swear that I try a lot to find the best sharpening, I use the same editing process, and even so my acceptance is inconsistent. For example:
This one is oversharpened according to the screening process:
https://i.imgur.com/ZV9tipi.jpeg
And this one is soft:
https://i.imgur.com/yW2pCDy.jpeg
On both of them I see some small jagged lines, even in the Cessna, that got a soft rejection, the N number, the stripes... but they're "ok". The borderline of sharpening appears to be too thin.
+1, I've got exactly the same experience. I can understand why I get some rejections for levelling/colors/exposure, but the rejections for sharpness often make me confused, especially when I'm comparing the rejected photos to other photos that were accepted. I too fail to see the boundaries between soft, sharp and oversharped.
Honestly I don't think there is a good way to assess the sharpness in detail with photos of 1200 px wide or so. The only way to assess sharpness accurately is by screening hi-res photos (4000-6000 px wide). That way things like heathaze can also be assessed more accurately.
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Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
It would be nice to see some consistency from the screeners on this site. The number of 'over sharpened' rejections by myself and many other photographers seems to be a wide spread issue. As mentioned above images compressed to 1200 px etc will also cause issues. I was also told be a screener today Id be banned if I didn't sharpen an image after a third upload of the same image.
Screeners with some more constructive language rather than blank treats might see you retain people wanting to build the site up. Or people will continue to leave and take their images to other sites like Jetphotos etc.
Screeners with some more constructive language rather than blank treats might see you retain people wanting to build the site up. Or people will continue to leave and take their images to other sites like Jetphotos etc.
Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
comet1 wrote:Hi,
I'd like to have your opionions about my recent oversharpened rejections. I do get them quite often by A.net, but never in other dbs.
To me the pics look good. Less sharpened would bo too soft imo.
Pls. check here and give me your personal opinion as detailed as you like.
https://abload.de/img/q33a7021-cr2_dxo_grosvpkyy.jpg
https://abload.de/img/q33a7318-cr2_dxo_gros0bj9z.jpg
https://abload.de/img/q33a7263-1grossfilterg2j83.jpg
Thank you for you effort in advance.
Rainer
Cracking night shots! Have to agree w the screener here ever so oversharpened but not much. Try little less USM.
ASOSpotter wrote:It would be nice to see some consistency from the screeners on this site. The number of 'over sharpened' rejections by myself and many other photographers seems to be a wide spread issue. As mentioned above images compressed to 1200 px etc will also cause issues. I was also told be a screener today Id be banned if I didn't sharpen an image after a third upload of the same image.
Screeners with some more constructive language rather than blank treats might see you retain people wanting to build the site up. Or people will continue to leave and take their images to other sites like Jetphotos etc.
I was having the same issue with OS rejects it took a while with my new notebook to find what was good considering the screeners are using monitors different than mine, Now I am getting them accepted. Heck finally got back on the homepage too
Just had to back off the USM a little. Check workflow and that you are doing no sharpening in camera etc and saving it until the very end in PS.
Re: Permanent "oversharpened" rejections
comet1 wrote:would it be possible to take one pic as example and point out the oversharpened area?
It's particularly noticeable around the letters.
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