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ReneWendt
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Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Sun May 27, 2012 6:25 pm

Hi,

Apparently I have to little to do, in the evenings here in the dessert, so it gives time to prepare some uploads.

Would do you think of the two images? I've tried to edit them to the best of my knowledge, my screen here is not the best in the world!

https://www.airliners.net/ufview.file...155111&filename=phpTcJZPc.jpeg

https://www.airliners.net/ufview.file...155111&filename=phpqykEd2.jpeg
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Sun May 27, 2012 6:52 pm

the first one is back-lit? just my 2 cents.
 
ReneWendt
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Sun May 27, 2012 7:00 pm

Not really, but the light was directly above the aircraft.
I have had my doubts about this image, as the light has caused me some troubles.
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Sun May 27, 2012 7:48 pm

Hi Rene
For the photo of the 146/RJ, I can see that the sky is quite pixelated, and there's a dark spot beneath the nose. There might be other things but I'm not that experienced.
Cheers,
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Sun May 27, 2012 7:58 pm

Hi,

As noted, first is backlit/harshly contrasted (and noisy), which is probably not fixable. Second is also noisy, slightly high, and also as noted has the smudge below the nose.
 
ReneWendt
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 7:43 am

I binned the Estonian Air, no need to work on a crappy image, that can be redone on the next trip to the airport.

New edit of the 146/RJ: https://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=155111&filename=phpIM0VUV.jpeg
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 3:39 pm

Quoting ReneWendt (Reply 5):
New edit of the 146/RJ:

Centering looks unchanged; contrast is just a bit harsh, but other than that should be ok.
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 3:54 pm

Then I'll make a third edit.
Actually, it turn out that very little editing was needed, so it was probably my own editing that caused the issues.

An other Question: Is there any reason for changing the in-camera settings for white-balance/ sharpness and the like?
I mean, do you make your own settings, or go ahead with the presets?
 
frankc
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 4:19 pm

Recently I started to use the whitebalance "manually preset mode", using the BRNO Balens filter. It does a particular good job for the nightshots as it quite effectively eliminates the orange of the apron lighting.
Apart from that, I do always use a manual lightmeter for the nightshots (I prefer to do a minimum of edit in PhotoShop, apart from the obvious cropping et cetera).

This ones were made with manual light metering, along with manual white balance metering:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Cessn...d=2ae8a56834b13e9749878674333179c2
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../p1337790975.3651frankc_n525fd.jpg

Cheers,
Frank
 
ReneWendt
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 4:44 pm

Frank: Beautiful night shots! I particularly like the Citation. That could inspire me to a night trip or two!

Here's the third edit of the 146/RJ, contrast adjusted a bit and should be a bot lower in the frame now.

https://www.airliners.net/ufview.file...155111&filename=php0dUKxo.jpeg
 
frankc
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 5:08 pm

Thanks Rene - that Citation 680 was post-processed using only rotating, cropping and sharpening.
The ZE701 might still have a contrast issue (lighting from above), but I'll leave that to the screeners on this forum.

[Edited 2012-05-28 10:10:30]
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 6:33 pm

Quoting frankc (Reply 8):
Recently I started to use the whitebalance "manually preset mode", using the BRNO Balens filter. It does a particular good job for the nightshots as it quite effectively eliminates the orange of the apron lighting.
Apart from that, I do always use a manual lightmeter for the nightshots (I prefer to do a minimum of edit in PhotoShop, apart from the obvious cropping et cetera).

This ones were made with manual light metering, along with manual white balance metering:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Cessn...d=2ae8a56834b13e9749878674333179c2
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../p1337790975.3651frankc_n525fd.jpg

Cheers,
Frank

Those are really beautiful shots. which camera and lens are you using if you don't mind me asking.

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ernest
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Mon May 28, 2012 9:37 pm

Quoting ReneWendt (Reply 7):
An other Question: Is there any reason for changing the in-camera settings for white-balance/ sharpness and the like?

If you shoot RAW, it's less important, as you can tweak those settings in post-processing. But, like many, I'm trying to minimize the editing I have to do, so it's worth getting whatever I can correct in-camera. For white balance, I'll just dial in a color temperature that's closest to what I see, generally. Since I usually go shooting in the late afternoon/evening, this tends to be between 5600 and 6500K (working its way up as it gets later).

For sharpening, when I upgraded from a Rebel XS to a 50D, I found the images were slightly less sharp at a pixel level. This bothered me, so I upped the in-camera sharpness to 4 from the default of 3. I also usually turn in-camera noise reduction completely off, as I like to see what the non-noise-reduced image looks like, and then apply what I feel is necessary in editing.
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ReneWendt
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Tue May 29, 2012 11:45 am

Thank you very much, for the good informative answers.

Any thoughts on the last edit of the 146/RJ?
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Tue May 29, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting ReneWendt (Reply 13):
Any thoughts on the last edit of the 146/RJ?

Centering should be ok. Color looks a bit odd (it did on the earlier edits as well), but I don't think it's enough of a problem to cause too much concern. Just submit as it is, and see how it goes.
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Tue May 29, 2012 4:49 pm

Will do.
The color looks a bit blue? I had the same thought, but I can't nail the problem and possible solution.
 
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RE: Pre-Screening, 2 More Images

Tue May 29, 2012 7:16 pm

Quoting ReneWendt (Reply 15):
The color looks a bit blue?

Yes, just a bit, but I would try it as it is because the cast isn't too severe.

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