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Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:43 am

They look decent for the size, but as always, your chances of acceptance go down the larger you submit them at. The second has a slight cyan hue.
 
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:16 pm

Thanks Dana!

Resubmitting a couple, this 748F is sharp enought now? https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/m1364741443.3997dsc_5981-7.jpg

and this UA is bright enought? it was also rejected for level, but I think that was fine, so I did not rotate. https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/m1364742116.5457dsc_6699-4.jpg lighting was not good, so I guess contrast might be flat.

The followings were rejected for grainy (noise in sky), I found that is difficult to believe, they were shot with low iso at 200. What do you think?

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0331_r1364048743.234dsc_5306-2.jpg

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...331_g1364049062.0653dsc_5308-2.jpg

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...331_k1364048249.8613dsc_6858-2.jpg

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Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:27 pm

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 52):
this 748F is sharp enought now?

Should be ok for sharpness.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 52):
it was also rejected for level, but I think that was fine, so I did not rotate.

Not a good idea unless you are looking to receive a warning/ban for re-uploading.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 52):
The followings were rejected for grainy (noise in sky)

I don't see them as being too noisy, but there are some banding artifacts visible in the sky, perhaps that was what the rejection was for.
 
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:17 pm

Thanks again, Dana. That UA 772 was for Dark and Level, I brighten it up a bit. But based on the tower, I feel the level is fine. Definitely not looking for a warning, do you see problem with its level? Please let me know.

Banding artifacts is something new to me, any suggestion how to fix it? Or what caused banding? Thanks!
 
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:15 pm

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 54):
Definitely not looking for a warning, do you see problem with its level?

If you don't agree with a rejection, the proper recourse is to appeal. Simply uploading it again unchanged because you don't agree will get you a warning first, and then a ban if it happens again. Both will remain on your membership permanently, so best not to upload it unchanged if you wish to avoid that. The image looks very bright and needing ccw rotation to me.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 54):
Banding artifacts is something new to me, any suggestion how to fix it? Or what caused banding?

Almost impossible to remove, better not to introduce them in the first place. From my experience they are most commonly introduced with noise reduction, either on the jpeg, or the RAW file itself.
 
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Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:33 pm

OK, I re-worked on that UA 772, less brightening and some CCW. Also trying to avoid bandings, I actually decrease the sharpening a little bit, and then only apply minimium amount of noise reduction, maybe less sharpening only need very minor noise reduction plus they were taken in bright sunlight, so they don't really need too much noise reduction. Here is what I got, hopefully they are ok now?

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/v1364772184.5224dsc_5306-3.jpg

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/b1364772359.8678dsc_5308-3.jpg

Thanks Dana again for all the help!
 
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Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:36 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 56):
hopefully they are ok now?

Banding is less evident, so whatever you did has affected it - most likely the noise reduction.
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:10 pm

Thanks Dana, I think I learned something new about sharpening and NR.

Anyway, got this one rejected for overexposed again after a re-edit. I really don't think it is too bright now, what do you think? Thanks!

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...408_d1364676322.6589dsc_6861-2.jpg
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:24 pm

you do have a couple of reflections that are clipped (or close to clipped) but I have a feeling you could appeal that successfully.

OR - kick up the shadows a bit and simultaneously drop exposure to reduce white clipping.

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Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:28 pm

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 58):
I really don't think it is too bright now, what do you think?

Would be better with a slight reduction in brightness.
 
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Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:50 am

Thanks Dana, very slightly reduced the brightness on that one and resubmitted.

Also resubmitting this one, it was rejected for cyan tint, heat haze and soft. I adjusted the white balance and resized it to a smaller size, to address the softness. But looking at the original RAW, I can see only minimum heat haze on the aircraft, there is significiant heathaze on the buildings behind, but that is a mile or more away. I reupload this version, it is acceptable? Thanks!

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/v1365820709.6239dsc_7659-6.jpg
 
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Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:05 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 61):
I can see only minimum heat haze on the aircraft, there

I can still see it on the nose gear, though you might get away with it at this smaller size.
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:38 am

Thank you Dana!

Here are a few new uploads, please comment on their quality.

This AA is dark? https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/k1366244317.2942dsc_6352-3.jpg

This AC is yellow? https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/l1366244702.9016dsc_6349-2.jpg

And maybe this UA is cyan? https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/w1366210183.9976dsc_6630-3.jpg

Thanks!
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:33 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 63):
This AA is dark?

No.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 63):
This AC is yellow?

A touch, yes.

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 63):
And maybe this UA is cyan?

Definitely not. Actually a little yellow. Not meaning to offend, but do you perhaps have issues with color blindness? It could be the reason you often have problems with color in your images. If not, then I would strongly recommend getting your monitor properly calibrated.

Centering should also be checked on those images, as the first two are a little high.
 
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Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:42 am

Thanks Dana, I don't really think I am color blind. I can tell there is a color difference when I adjust the color temperature, my problem is I have not got the sense of a neutral white balance. Anyway, looking through my pictures in database, I think I am making progress in term of the color.

I have a different question, what is the policy about reflections? I have a few pictures, the aircraft itself is good and sharp, but because they were shot through windows, there are some reflection on the picture too, not too bad but definitely there, so it is a automatic rejection if there is a reflection? Thanks!
 
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Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:05 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 65):
so it is a automatic rejection if there is a reflection?

In most cases, yes.
 
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Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:07 pm

Thanks for clear that up, Dana.

This China Southern was rejected for oversharpening, as it was like this: https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0421_e1365832448.848dsc_7676-5.jpg

Here is the new upload, hope it is ok now? https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/l1366574520.0771dsc_7676-6.jpg

Again this one UA was rejected again for yellow tint and grainy, here is the new upload, https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/c1366563807.8105dsc_5306-5.jpg
this one was shot with good lighting, early morning with nice sunshine, but turns out it is difficult to get this one accepted, hope now it is fine. Thanks!
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:21 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 67):
Here is the new upload, hope it is ok now?

No, still looks pretty bad. I assume a fair amount of heat haze you tried to fix by oversharpening?

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 67):
Again this one UA was rejected again for yellow tint and grainy,

Again, whatever you are (or aren't) doing in regards to color simply isn't very effective. Most of your images have a yellow-ish cyan hue as on this one.

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/2950/c13665638078105dsc53065.jpg
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:21 pm

Thank you Dana, I try to adjust the tint to remove the yellow, but doing that I also can see the image become purple or magenta, I am wondering how you adjust because I don't see purple on the half image you processed, how did you do that?

That CZ cargo does not have too much heat haze, and I only applied low sharpening when exporting, I am not sure why it appeared oversharpened.

Thanks again!
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:16 pm

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 69):
Thank you Dana, I try to adjust the tint to remove the yellow, but doing that I also can see the image become purple or magenta, I am wondering how you adjust because I don't see purple on the half image you processed, how did you do that?

Simple adjustment to the hue. I would guess it's something you're doing with the white balance or maybe saturation. Are you setting the white balance manually?

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 69):
That CZ cargo does not have too much heat haze, and I only applied low sharpening when exporting, I am not sure why it appeared oversharpened.

Yes, after seeing the original, I can see that. This is just a case then of the cheat lines being jagged to start with, and sharpening and re-sizing making it look worse.
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:55 pm

so you just add more blue hue to the image to remove the yellow? or just decrease yellow? I tried to play with hue in LR but seem the effects were not very obvious, PS is more powerful to do the hue adjustment? Yes, I pretty much set the color temp and tint manually now, trying to address this color issue.

For that CZ cargo, it was rotating so the cheat line was not a level line, maybe I will try 1400 size with low sharpening when exporting, to see if that looks a bit better.

Thanks Dana, very helpful!
 
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Mon May 13, 2013 3:22 am

Got these two rejected for soft, or quality, I think both are ok in term of the sharpness, what do you think? Thanks!

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...512_q1367456914.1248dsc_6352-5.jpg

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0512_v1367458451.269dsc_8406-4.jpg
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:12 am

Hi, just got these two rejected for dark, I don't really feel they are too dark, what do you think? Thanks!

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...30601_t1369112479.0916dsc_0224.jpg

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...601_h1369112778.2364dsc_0187-3.jpg
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:37 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 73):
just got these two rejected for dark

I think that is correct. Check the histogram; there is empty space on the right side.
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:00 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 73):
just got these two rejected for dark, I don't really feel they are too dark, what do you think?

UA could stand some brightening, and while the LH is also a touch dark, it's probably ok as is. I'd appeal that one.
 
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:11 pm

Thanks Dana, also got your message, thought I could resubmit the appeal with more specific reason, but found once I removed it from the appeal queue, it disappeared forever. I will brighten them up a bit and resubmit.
 
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:31 am

Here are two new uploads, first is a 748i cockpit, my question is for cockpit/cabin shots, does everything need to be in focus? like this example, I had some DOF issues, those chairs are definitely not in focus, is it a problem?

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/c1370138716.8525dsc_0675.jpg

and for the following American Eagle, I would like to add it to the database as it just got the new paint too, unfortunately a cloud blocked the sun when I took the picture, so it was dark while background was pretty bright, I try to brighten it up, so I wonder if it is savageable?

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/k1370233343.3445dsc_0305.jpg

Thanks for your help!
 
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:47 am

The cockpit shot looks all right. I've seen plenty of shots in the DB with out of focus seats in the foreground. I think everyone recognizes that shooting at close quarters means you are guaranteed DoF issues.

The Eagle actually looks great to me, but I don't think it would hurt to give it a tenth of a stop more in terms of brightness.

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Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:21 pm

Thank angad84.

Just got this one rejected for overexposed, which I don't agree, nothing blown out and I am thinking about appealing this one, what do you think? thanks!

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...613_a1370136495.2056dsc_0663-2.jpg
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:48 pm

Doesn't look overexposed to me, but looks like there might be window reflections/spots.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:52 pm

Thanks Vikkyvik, you mean the runway area? I looked carefully, does not seem like reflections to me.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:21 pm

I see some streaks/patches in the lower left quadrant that look like they might be reflections.
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:44 pm

I think those are something on the runway, they appear to be vertical to the length of the runway, nothing from inside of the aircraft would have that pattern.
 
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Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:05 am

Here is another upload, do you think this backlit one would work? Thanks!

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/h1371269017.1515dsc_2493.jpg
 
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Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:23 am

Quoting powwwiii (Reply 84):
Here is another upload, do you think this backlit one would work? Thanks!

Works for me.
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:56 pm

Thank Vikkyvik.

To my surprise, I noticed Dana's post. Just want to say that Dana you have been so helpful for me, many many thanks and best wishes!

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