Pre/Post-Screening (SGAviation)

SGAviation · Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:47 pm

Hello. I'd like feedback on these pictures below.

PRE-SCREENING:

I really appreciate all the advice.

nikog · Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:38 pm

Hi,

First one is dirty, flat and soft.
The second is dark, blurry and soft and dirty also.

Gregory

SGAviation · Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:19 am

I've made some changes. Are they any better?

SGAviation · Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:31 am

Another shot:

dlowwa · Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 2):
I've made some changes.

Still multiple dust spots on the first, and at least one on the second.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 3):
Another shot:

Soft, and very low contrast.

SGAviation · Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:06 am

Thank you dlowwa and nikog for the input.

How do they look now?

dlowwa · Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:56 pm

First isn't dirty any more, but will be borderline for grainy/quality. Second should be ok. Third still has low contrast.

SGAviation · Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:39 am

Thank you. I think I shall scrap the Scoot 777 and put the Kalitta 747 in queue.

How is the contrast on the BA now?

dlowwa · Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:57 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 7):
How is the contrast on the BA now?

Better, but quality will still be borderline.

SGAviation · Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:13 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 8):

Should I sharpen it further?

dlowwa · Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:35 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 9):
Should I sharpen it further?

No, it looks a little oversharpened already.

SGAviation · Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:28 pm

What are ways to improve quality? I use a Canon EOS 550D with 15-85mm and 75-300mm lens.

dlowwa · Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:17 am

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 11):
What are ways to improve quality?

That totally depends on what is causing the quality problems in the first place, which could be any number of things: poor lens, atmospheric conditions, shooting through glass, etc...

SGAviation · Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:05 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 12):

Oh I see, thank you.

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I currently only have the Kalitta 747 in queue.

3 additional pictures: How are they?

dlowwa · Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:34 am

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 13):
3 additional pictures: How are they?

Second one is a little bright but should otherwise stand a good chance. The first has issues with contrast (low) and sharpening (too much), while the third is pretty badly backlit and probably not fixable.

SGAviation · Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:39 am

Ah, thanks a lot.

I'll scrap the SAS and EC Air and put the Air Berlin in queue.

How about these 3?

I'll put links instead, so it doesn't slow down the loading of the page.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359.jpg (Singapore Airlines A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586.jpg (Thai Airways A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3685.jpg (Japan Airlines B788)

310815 · Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:46 am

The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.
So better leave it for good and try to catch them again with more favourable conditions.

The first one looks okay to me, but my monitor is terrible, so better wait for another opinion.

dlowwa · Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:07 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
The light (bad weather) won't work for the last 2 (Thai & JAL).

I see little difference between the three, so why would the first be ok, but not the last two?

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 16):
As this is not fixable they probably don't have a chance of acceptance.

Why would it not be fixable? It would only need adjustments to the exposure/contrast.

They are also soft and have multiple large dust spots. The foreground tree(s) are not adding much, so better to avoid them if possible.

SGAviation · Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:07 am

Thank you guys.

Unfortunately, the Kalitta 747 was rejected for: "yellow cast color"

I edited it. How does it look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9342EditII-2.jpg (Kalitta 747)

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http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3359-1.jpg (Singapore A333)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_3586-1.jpg (Thai A333)

I scrapped the JAL 787 and decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8682.jpg

dlowwa · Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:21 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
I edited it. How does it look now?

Looks fine to me.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 18):
decided to upload this Emirates A332. But before doing so, is it ok?

Some editing halos, but otherwise ok.

SGAviation · Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:00 pm

Thank you. The Kalitta 747 and the Emirates A332 are in queue, as well as the Singapore A333.

Is the Thai A333 ok as well, before uploading?

Plus another picture:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5524Edited-1.jpg

I'm not very sure about the whitebalance thing.

dlowwa · Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:31 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Is the Thai A333 ok as well

No, it is quite poor, sorry.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 20):
Plus another picture:

This has multiple issues (noise, exposure, color, softness/blur).

SGAviation · Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:01 pm

Ok, I'll scrap those two as well then.

How about these? Which of these two stands a better chance?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4027.jpg

dlowwa · Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:03 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 22):
Which of these two stands a better chance?

The first is better than the second, but it is soft.

SGAviation · Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:29 am

How about now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020-1.jpg

DL747 · Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:52 am

Looks better to me, but the titles might be a bit oversharpened (for my taste, anyway.) But, I a still fairly new at this, so let Dana have a look.

SGAviation · Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:24 am

The link in Reply 24 is broken now.

I unsharpened it a little now:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4020.jpg

How are these two pictures as well?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5663Edit.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-25 00:55:28]

dlowwa · Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:26 am

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 26):
I unsharpened it a little now:

You unsharpened it? Being soft implies that you should sharpen it more. In any case, the quality still looks borderline, as you can see it gets soft toward the edges. There is some chromatic aberration visible there as well, which would indicate the lack of quality is likely due to your lens.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 26):
How are these two pictures as well?

First is blurry and unlevel, second is not bad, but again a little soft toward the edges.

SGAviation · Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:40 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 27):
You unsharpened it?

I sharpened it after your comment in Reply 23. The link in 24 got broken, then after DL747 commented, I unsharpened it very slightly.

I guess it is time to upgrade the lens.

I really would like to upload that QF A332 since it's new (delivered just this morning in SYD from TLS via SIN)

How about this new one to work with?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024.jpg

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Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-1.jpg

dlowwa · Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:05 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 28):
How about this new one to work with?

Better crop, but again not the best light, which makes it a bit dark/contrasty.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 28):
Sharpened the AB A320 edges a little further, how's it look now?

Looks like you sharpened more than just the edges of the frame. See how the middle is oversharpened now.

SGAviation · Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:30 am

Edited:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4024Edit.jpg (QF A332)

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1699Edit-2.jpg (AB A320)

dlowwa · Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:32 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 30):
Edited

Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.

SGAviation · Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:54 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 31):
Both are neither outstanding nor really terrible, so I guess proceed how you best see fit.

Alrighty. I guess I'll try my luck and upload the QF A332.

The Air Berlin 737-700 got rejected for: "Green/cyan cast"

I have one spot left in the queue, so how about this one?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9433.jpg

Thank you once again for all the advice.

[Edited 2012-11-27 00:55:00]

dlowwa · Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:09 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 32):
so how about this one?

Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.

SGAviation · Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:01 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 33):
Very poor light/contrast, and not that rare, so I would pass on it.

Aww... ok. This one?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514.jpg

dlowwa · Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:40 am

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 34):
This one?

Red cast and editing halos.

SGAviation · Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:17 am

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-1.jpg

How do you fix editing halos?

I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%.

dlowwa · Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:34 am

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 36):
How do you fix editing halos?

Impossible to say without knowing what you are doing to introduce them.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 36):
I just made the "Shadows" back to it's original 0%.

Halos are still pretty strong.

SGAviation · Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:27 am

Hmm, well I just shot normally in 'Automatic' mode. Didn't do anything out of the ordinary.

Edited again:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_8514-2.jpg

dlowwa · Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:53 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 38):
Edited again:

Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.

SGAviation · Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:47 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 39):
Halos still obvious, and looks like you've tried to clone them out; don't do that, as you will get a warning/ban for bad editing.

Omg, ok.

I don't know what I did during editing to cause those halos. (Maybe I shouldn't have played Beyonce's 'Halo' on repeat)

I think it was because of the shadow/contrast settings, I'm not too sure.

I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142.jpg

I also would like feedback on another shot as well:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_5805.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-30 01:29:00]

dlowwa · Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:40 am

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I think it was because of the shadow/contrast settings

Yes, the shadow/highlight tool will certainly introduce halos.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I reworked on it from the original file and this is the result:

No halos, but slightly red cast and harsh contrast.

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 40):
I also would like feedback on another shot as well:

Very soft, almost blurry. Also, lots of wasted space at 3:2.

SGAviation · Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:42 am

How about now? Scrapped the tail shot.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_85142-1.jpg

2 more shots as well:

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9891.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_9727.jpg

SGAviation · Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:30 am

The Kalitta 747 was accepted.

The Singapore A333 was rejected because of the sky being grainy. If I sharpened the sky, would it work?

The Emirates A332 was rejected for blurry nose.

SGAviation · Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:35 am

How about this one too?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_1542.jpg

dlowwa · Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:05 am

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 43):
How about this one too?

A bit flat. Also some moiré on the cheat lines, but that's hard to avoid with such liveries.

SGAviation · Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:52 pm

Thank you.

How about this one?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4352.jpg

dlowwa · Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting SGAviation (Reply 46):
How about this one?

Should be ok.

SGAviation · Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:10 am

Thank you.

Can I have feedback on this one too?

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/IMG_4533.jpg

DL747 · Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:37 pm

Looks a tad soft toward the front, and noisy. Also might be a bit flat. I am assuming this was at a higher ISO, as it looks very grainy.

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