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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:00 pm

That looks a lot better, to my amateurish eye.

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:22 pm

Quoting sovietjet (Reply 98):
I thought if it's the same side and one is during takeoff and one during landing it is OK? Also if same side and one is on the ground and one in the air?

See:

Quoting angad84 (Reply 91):
If I find more shots from the same sequence (it was a sunset flying display prior to the live firing),

He said it was from the same sequence, so that would mean double.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 99):
Better now?

Should be ok.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:45 pm

Thanks William, Dana. It's in the queue.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:34 pm

Could I please get an opinion on these two? Particularly concerned about sharpness and exposure, I fear the reflections might be deal-breakers but am hoping the panning sort of makes up for that!

http://i3.minus.com/iUuh4glbEvemq.jpg

http://i1.minus.com/iscvfpg465CY1.jpg

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:44 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 103):
Could I please get an opinion on these two?

There was a photo on the forum recently that appeared to be rejected for a sun reflection, but yours don't seem like a problem to me.

The first image does look a bit soft/blurry compared to the other.

The serial number on the second looks a bit soft, but the sharpness looks good otherwise so maybe that is just the way the paint is...
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:00 am

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 104):
There was a photo on the forum recently that appeared to be rejected for a sun reflection, but yours don't seem like a problem to me.

The first image does look a bit soft/blurry compared to the other.

The serial number on the second looks a bit soft, but the sharpness looks good otherwise so maybe that is just the way the paint is...

Do you think the blurry ECM pod on the second one (KF123) will be a problem? The wing does a fair bit of wobbling on touchdown and as you say, the rest of the craft appears to be sharp.

I'm looking at other images I have of KF123, and the tail number does appear to be a bit badly painted on. I suppose I could add some selective sharpening but it would not really be representative of the aircraft as it actually is.

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:31 am

Quoting angad84 (Reply 103):
Could I please get an opinion on these two?

Both are soft, more so the first which might be a bit blurry. The second may be fixable, but I feel like I need to keep reminding you to remove the dust spots... any reason you haven't?
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:30 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 106):
I feel like I need to keep reminding you to remove the dust spots... any reason you haven't?

I keep forgetting!  
Like I said earlier, I don't use Photoshop, so remembering to export to PS just for a dust check (equalize) is not easy. I'll keep trying to make it a habit.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 106):
Both are soft, more so the first which might be a bit blurry. The second may be fixable

Re: the shots, do they look like they would suffer from grain if I sharpen them up more? I've already pushed them far beyond what I normally do. In any case, if you think the second is workable, I'll clean it (!) and have another go at sharpening.

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:07 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 107):
do they look like they would suffer from grain if I sharpen them up more?

I don't see noise being a problem currently, so maybe. I said soft, but it's possible it's actually blur, so without seeing the originals only you know if they're fixable. If they're just soft, possibly yes, but if it's actually blur, then maybe not.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:38 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 108):
I don't see noise being a problem currently, so maybe. I said soft, but it's possible it's actually blur, so without seeing the originals only you know if they're fixable. If they're just soft, possibly yes, but if it's actually blur, then maybe not.

It's a bit of both. They were taken at a relatively short focal length (81mm) and 1/50s shutter speed so there is some blur around the nose and tail. But does the blurry ECM pod make this a non-starter anyway? Or is that excusable because of the way the wing shakes on landing?

Anyway, here's a sharpened and cleaned version:

http://i2.minus.com/i8TEgTW0SaHRh.jpg

Any better?
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:27 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 109):
Anyway, here's a sharpened and cleaned version:

If you bring down the brightness a touch, and remove the remaining dust spots, it might be worth a shot.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:00 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 110):
If you bring down the brightness a touch, and remove the remaining dust spots, it might be worth a shot.

Could you please point out the remaining dust spots? I'm having a hard time with them, even after equalizing.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:08 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 111):
Could you please point out the remaining dust spots?
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/5439/i8tegtw0sahrh.jpg
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:49 pm

Is this all right now?

http://i1.minus.com/ikbTlAtbTIXB5.jpg

Sharpened a touch, cooled a little (felt a bit warm), and dropped exposure as well. But what about the blurry ECM pod?

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:13 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 113):
Is this all right now?

I'd give it a bit more contrast, then give it a shot.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:24 pm

 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:24 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 115):
Like so?

Yes.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:27 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 116):
Yes.

Brilliant. I'll put it in the queue and hope the upload bug doesn't bite.

Thanks Dana, much appreciated as always.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:21 pm

Could I please get an opinion on these two photographs?

Mi-35 - http://i4.minus.com/iIlNNv2KcdPZM.jpg

Il-76 tail - http://i1.minus.com/ibaNRZbx4MYu17.jpg
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:37 pm

Mi-35 - Maybe just a bit oversharpened in spots?

IL-76 - I get your motive but I would worry that it might not pass here. I think I would also try to move everything to the left a bit if your original will allow. Some spots of this one as well look a bit oversharpened to me.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:41 am

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 119):
Mi-35 - Maybe just a bit oversharpened in spots?

IL-76 - I get your motive but I would worry that it might not pass here. I think I would also try to move everything to the left a bit if your original will allow. Some spots of this one as well look a bit oversharpened to me.

Thanks for the input!

Il-76 with slightly adjusted sharpening, and cropped away some dead space - http://i1.minus.com/ipcqLrxDk2zry.jpg

Mi-35 minus a touch of sharpening - http://i5.minus.com/iN0tZz6GNfySg.jpg

Better?

Also, I have another LCH shot - http://i3.minus.com/iby7rm6IwtdVCy.jpg - that I could use an opinion on.

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:39 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 120):
Il-76 with slightly adjusted sharpening, and cropped away some dead space
Quoting angad84 (Reply 120):
Mi-35 minus a touch of sharpening

I like the new crop of the Il-76 better. It is hard for me to see the difference in the sharpening on either image, but if you think it looks good I would go with it.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 120):
Also, I have another LCH shot -

It looks a bit soft/blurry to me, especially toward the rear.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:09 am

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 121):
It looks a bit soft/blurry to me, especially toward the rear.

Yep, the rear was giving me most trouble. Guess I'll bin it.

I'll reduce sharpening on the Hind and Il-76 some more and upload.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:19 am

Anyone care to offer an opinion on this? I'm a little iffy on level (I've done it based on the buildings in the background) and dust (done a LOT of cloning but may have missed some).

http://i4.minus.com/ibqp0OwfgADN8n.jpg

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:20 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 123):
I'm a little iffy on level

If anything maybe a little cw, but otherwise I would leave the level as it is.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:20 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 124):
If anything maybe a little cw, but otherwise I would leave the level as it is.

Thanks Dana. Is it all right on everything else?
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:55 am

Quoting angad84 (Reply 125):
Is it all right on everything else?

I'd put it a bit lower in the frame.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:38 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 126):
I'd put it a bit lower in the frame.

Affirmative. It's in the queue with a touch of CW and a little lower in frame. Thanks!

Also, could I bother you to have a look at the Il-76 tail posted a few replies up? If it's ok for quality, could I submit it without location/date info (Withheld - Feb 2013) because I was asked to keep those details out if I posted this image online.

Cheers

[Edited 2013-04-13 04:54:04]
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:00 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 127):
Also, could I bother you to have a look at the Il-76 tail posted a few replies up?

Not likely to have a good chance due to the poor light.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:02 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 128):
Not likely to have a good chance due to the poor light.

Righto. Will bin that and submit just the Mi-35.

EDIT: Two more for your consideration.

This was rejected earlier for "dark" and "grainy" - is it passable now?
http://i4.minus.com/iTFgzo6LQeAdL.jpg

This one is all-new to the DB, I believe. I'm primarily concerned about sharpness/grain on this.
http://i1.minus.com/ibc8s0Fn7d4QhX.jpg

[Edited 2013-04-13 16:35:07]
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:02 am

Quoting angad84 (Reply 129):
This was rejected earlier for "dark" and "grainy" - is it passable now?

Brightness should be acceptable, but still a fair amount of noise.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 129):
This one is all-new to the DB, I believe. I'm primarily concerned about sharpness/grain on this.

Sharpness looks ok, but a little flat and noisy.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:21 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 130):
Brightness should be acceptable, but still a fair amount of noise.

Is this better now? http://i2.minus.com/ivMeMqm4EVnfU.jpg

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 130):
Sharpness looks ok, but a little flat and noisy.

Made some changes - http://i2.minus.com/i4MoH9DWldjAZ.jpg

All right now?

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:10 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 131):
Is this better now?

Better than before.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 131):
All right now?

Still somewhat flat, but I don't see noise being an issue.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:55 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 132):
Better than before.

But not good enough for the queue?

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 132):
Still somewhat flat, but I don't see noise being an issue.

Great. Will add another shot of contrast and stick it in the queue.

Thanks  
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:51 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 132):
But not good enough for the queue?

It will be borderline, but it should have a chance.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:56 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 134):
It will be borderline, but it should have a chance.

Wicked. That's up then.

I've also redone the edit on this Mirage 2000H which was rejected a while ago for low contrast. (Original here: http://i3.minus.com/ibz7PCZUNA6RNL.jpg )

So I did a ground-up re-edit and ended up with this: http://i2.minus.com/ihOP9QwMQAjlM.jpg

Is it passable now? My main concern outside of contrast/sharpness is centering - the large tailfin makes it difficult to decide whether to push it higher or lower in frame, so I centered based on the fuselage, then gave it a downward bias to balance out the presence of the v-stab.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:43 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 135):
Is it passable now?

Not the best light, but better than the first try.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:20 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 136):
Not the best light, but better than the first try.

All right, will chance it again. Thanks.


I now have a number of photos to run by you, so that I can finish with this whole batch of Mirage shots and transfer it off my main computer!

1. These two shots are from the same sequence (takeoff) as my earlier KF138 shot already in the DB, but are from different angles.

Side-on: http://i7.minus.com/i2iFj3qm1iaSF.jpg

Unstick: http://i5.minus.com/iE3Gz5qlGUuKC.jpg

Will the side-on shot be rejected for double? If so, is the unstick shot worth uploading? It's not the most flattering light, but I like the scene itself, with the nose up and jetwash.


2. This shot was taken with serious side-lighting at sunrise.

http://i1.minus.com/iidbNue8aZSum.jpg

As such, I had major issues with exposure, contrast and white balance. Is it too over-edited for the DB?


3. This is fairly straightforward, just need a general check.

http://i5.minus.com/iICy8Zsv9y3Gx.jpg

4. Again, just general check on this.

http://i1.minus.com/ibc4AAo82gZ1E8.jpg


Thanks again!
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:19 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 137):
Will the side-on shot be rejected for double? If so, is the unstick shot worth uploading?

Both are considered double, so you should not upload either.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 137):
Is it too over-edited for the DB?

It does look like you've use a fair amount of the s/h tool, or similar.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 137):
This is fairly straightforward, just need a general check.
Quoting angad84 (Reply 137):
Again, just general check on this.

They should be ok.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:53 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 138):
Both are considered double, so you should not upload either.

I just re-read the guide, feel a little silly. They're the same side! For some reason I thought rear 3/4 and front 3/4 would be all right. Moving on...

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 138):
It does look like you've use a fair amount of the s/h tool, or similar.

I have indeed. So I take it this is a no-go?

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 138):
They should be ok.

Great, they're up!
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:18 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 139):
I have indeed. So I take it this is a no-go?

Dana, just so I can be sure I didn't misunderstand - the side-lit M2000H shot is not worth uploading, right?

Also, here's another that I could use a word on: http://i3.minus.com/ibv3qWnbTsPeFB.jpg

Quite proud of the panning on that, but concerned about grain and sharpening.

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:18 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 140):
Dana, just so I can be sure I didn't misunderstand - the side-lit M2000H shot is not worth uploading, right?

As it is, I see softness, contrast, and possibly editing being issues.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 140):
Also, here's another that I could use a word on:

Noise would be a minor issue; borderline for blur/sharpening.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:57 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 141):
As it is, I see softness, contrast, and possibly editing being issues.

Ok, I'll drop it then.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 141):
Noise would be a minor issue; borderline for blur/sharpening.

Made some adjustments and cropped wider to help with the sharpening/noise issues.

http://i6.minus.com/ioIzuG8vxJz4o.jpg

Better, or would it perhaps benefit from a downsize to 1100px or thereabouts?

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:37 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 142):
Made some adjustments and cropped wider to help with the sharpening/noise issues.

Not bad, but I still see potential issues with sharpening/blur.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:37 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 143):
sharpening/blur

Could you point out areas where blur and sharpening are problematic? In any case, I've kicked up sharpening a notch and downsized - hopefully that helps

New:
http://i3.minus.com/ibwTPDyyr58Mam.jpg

Also, the earlier KF123 panning shot that you thought was ok has been rejected for "unbalanced crop; soft but new"

So I made some changes, along with a downsize to help sharpness.

Rejected:
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20130420_l1365750244.9313mirage-2000-h-kf123-landing-sharp.jpg

Re-edit:
http://i5.minus.com/iK9eXBebLMh5J.jpg

Could I get opinions on both re-edits, please?

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:19 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 144):
Could I get opinions on both re-edits, please?

Second looks passable to me, the first borderline, but maybe worth a shot.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:57 pm

Great, I'll have them up shortly.

Thanks again!
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:04 am

Can I get a general check on this? Main concerns are sharpening, grain and dust. I did a lot of cloning already, but a second set of eyes will probably help grab something I may have missed.

http://i4.minus.com/i1FIjL5lkdyRz.jpg

This is also a first time addition to the DB, so I'm keen to get it accepted.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:25 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 147):
Can I get a general check on this?

Quality looks ok; crop is slightly unbalanced with extra space on left.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:18 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 148):
Quality looks ok; crop is slightly unbalanced with extra space on left.

I initially centered based on fuselage front and rear, and let the h-stab do its own thing. Is this better?

http://i2.minus.com/i1Udd8Q8n0Afx.jpg

Thanks.

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