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dlowwa
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:01 am

There are four of us, and believe it or not, from time to time we do not see things exactly the same way. Frustrating yes, but so it goes with such a subjective endeavour. While we try our best to be as consitent as possible, you would be expecting the impossible if you thought it could be any other way.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:25 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 198):
I thought the first was fine, so this one can only be better.

Hah! Ok, she's back in the queue then.

Quoting johnr (Reply 199):
When a Head Screener says to appeal that should be the end of it....Instant add on appeal. The inconsistency of the screening process is becoming quite frustrating ( mainly from a time wasting point of view ).

Nah, it's understandable when you have dozens of people screening. I'd rather there be differing opinions and standards than some cookie-cutter nonsense that would see the DB fill up with samey boring shots.

(that said: I still yearn for more clarity on SOME issues, such as grain, white balance and centering)

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 200):
you would be expecting the impossible if you thought it could be any other way.

Yep. No worries. Like my old man says - try harder, try better.

To that end, here's a revised edit for the C-17, which was also rejected on appeal, with a personal comment stating that grain is ok but contrast is still low.

New edit:
http://i5.minus.com/igE53eEOp5rEo.jpg

And I have an IndiGo A320 w/sharklets as well, particularly concerned about sharpness on this:
http://i2.minus.com/inWtnH4d6MDur.jpg

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:29 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 201):
And I have an IndiGo A320 w/sharklets as well, particularly concerned about sharpness on this:

Looks a little oversharpened in places.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 202):
Looks a little oversharpened in places.

And here I was thinking I might have left it a little soft!

Is this better? I've reduced sharpness a tiny bit, mainly helped with the jaggies on the lettering.



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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:29 am

Quoting angad84 (Reply 203):
Is this better?

Looks passable.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:41 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 204):
Looks passable.

Cool, she's up then.

I need some help deciding between a pair of images. They'd b considered doubles, so I need to know which stands a stronger chance of being accepted.

Approach:
http://i6.minus.com/ibjFyeapZOA3VG.jpg

Belly:
http://i1.minus.com/ibgtLFH1UwX8GX.jpg

I'm leaning toward the belly shot at the moment because there's more airplane in the frame and it has better contrast than the head-on shot. Also, as far as I can tell, this is the first shot of IN305 for the database.

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:37 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 205):
I need to know which stands a stronger chance of being accepted.

Probably the second, but the light isn't very good in either.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:19 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 206):
Probably the second, but the light isn't very good in either.

Anything specific I can do to get it looking better? Or shall I just chance it as-is?
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:13 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 207):
Anything specific I can do to get it looking better?

Not at this point, just picking a better angle/time of day in the future (if at all possible).
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:55 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 208):
Not at this point, just picking a better angle/time of day in the future (if at all possible).

Not possible in the near future, no. So shall I chance it or bin it?
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:17 am

Quoting angad84 (Reply 209):
So shall I chance it or bin it?

Up to you of course, but the worst thing that could happen is a rejection, so why not go for it?
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:15 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 210):
so why not go for it?

Fair enough, and up she goes!

This Tu-142M was shot in the same light, a few seconds later, so is it worth a spin, or likelier to get the boot?

http://i3.minus.com/iHvpOH1pGeqDx.jpg

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:26 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 211):
This Tu-142M was shot in the same light, a few seconds later, so is it worth a spin, or likelier to get the boot?

Normally I would say no, but I'm assuming these are pretty rare, so that will certainly make their chances a lot better.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:26 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 212):
Normally I would say no, but I'm assuming these are pretty rare, so that will certainly make their chances a lot better.

IN313 (the Tu-142MKE) has one other photo in the DB, but there are no photos of IN305.

I have some more photos, I'll see if any of those are better. They're unfortunately on a hard drive in another city, so I'll have to wait until next week till they get to me.

Meanwhile, I have a Kiran formation that I think looks all right (still that weird side-lighting though)

http://i1.minus.com/idaSakIQPnRgJ.jpg

I cropped to 4:5 on this one because of the way it's framed, hope that's acceptable.

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:34 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 213):
I cropped to 4:5 on this one because of the way it's framed, hope that's acceptable.

No, 4:3 is the maximum allowable ratio.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:14 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 214):
No, 4:3 is the maximum allowable ratio.

Yet again, I fail at reading the guide. My english teacher would be so proud.

Is this all right?

http://i7.minus.com/iLswBuCpSaRRh.jpg

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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:09 pm

Quoting angad84 (Reply 215):
Is this all right?

Size is ok, quality looks passable.
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:05 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 216):
Size is ok, quality looks passable.

Great! This thread is getting a bit long. Shall I put up a new one or is it ok to continue in this?
 
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RE: Pre-screening - Angad84

Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:05 am

I suppose at 200+ posts it's ok to start a new one  

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