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Tonyholt777
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Pre-screening

Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:39 pm

Hi

Appreciate a once over on this BA departing MAN in the early morning winter sun pls? (doesnt happen enough )

fyi : My last one in the queue was rejected for 'grain/overexposed' - Hopefully i've learnt from that although for the life of me I couldn't see 'grainy'.

cheers T

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/8476679634_02938e3547_o.jpg
20110216_G-EUXI-_EGCC by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:42 pm

Looks fine, if slightly oversharpened.

In the future, you can keep all pre-screening questions to one thread.
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:48 pm

Thx Dana

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 1):
slightly oversharpened.
makes a change for me  
Quoting dlowwa (Reply 1):
all pre-screening questions to one thread

will do

Tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:37 pm

Hi all,

Appreciate C&C on this PIA 777 landing at MAN in the last rays of sun pls.

Cheers Tony

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8107/8500591852_8d00760aea_o.jpg
20110419_AP-BHW-_EGCC_Sunset by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:21 pm

Hi Tony,

Looks a bit flat/dark to me mate.

Cheers,

Karl
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:06 pm

Hi all

belated thx to Karl for the last one above mate.

I've just done this one which I kinda like because it shows the daily morning line up at 23L MAN and the weather was nice and contrasty.

Appreciate views pls on

1.Motive
2.Quality

thanks T

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8522/8581648139_87876a95b1_o.jpg
20120830_D-ACNE_EGCC by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:18 pm

Hi Tony,

Doesn't really work for me but they might like it here?

Karl
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:49 pm

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 5):
Appreciate views pls on

1.Motive
2.Quality

Should be passable for both.
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:41 pm

Thx Karl/Dana

I will upload it

T
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:11 pm

Hi all

Just got a 'reject' on the above photo (reply 5) for: 'needs more tighter crop distance centered personal'

I put a note in to say why i had cropped it this way to show the 'line up' context + i had asked for feedback on motive/quality here in advance - Just wondering if it's worth appealing, whilst I don't agree with the decision I also don't want to waste anyone's time if the consensus is not to bother on this occasion

thanks Tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:29 pm

Tony, I see what you are trying to show, I like it. However, I think for here you need to bring it in tighter on the right and left just a bit. That way the focus is more in on the CRJ, not the background. I would still leave the nose of the 319 in and bring the crop right to the engine of the 763. Nothing technically wrong with the crop either way, but I think that it is a bit loosey goosey as is.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:15 pm

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 9):
Just got a 'reject' on the above photo (reply 5) for: 'needs more tighter crop distance centered personal'

I guess it was borderline to start with, but as I said, I don't find it that bad. I guess you could appeal and see what happens, but I wouldn't be able to promise everyone would have the same opinion as me.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:47 pm

Tony, I'm unfortunately sitting in the 'dislike' camp on this one, as I stated above. I know it's far from a holiday snap but there's not a lot with the motive to separate it from such like.

Cheers,

Karl
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:02 pm

Thx All

I'm gonna leave it for the collection.

Its been worthwhile asking tho because I like to try different things and appreciate the feedback

tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:42 pm

HI

Thinking of uploading this one taken in the early morning low winter sun. As the regional rotated it hit a crosswind and the crew are correcting for it.

Appreciate views pls on:

1. centre/level
2. exposure/brightness
3.quality

Thanks Tony

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8528/8622999240_1f4a8b7391_o.jpg
20121205_D-ACNW_-EGCC by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:02 pm

Looks good to me Tony. A little yellow for my personal taste but may be okay?

Karl
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:19 am

Thx Karl

The sun was fairly low and strong - I kinda like the early morning light like this myself.

I will give it a go as no one else seems to be commenting in the negative.

tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:33 am

Hi, Tony.

As for me, a/c is a bit soft.
Colour should be okay. I can't see any yellow cast.
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:50 pm

Hi All

Appreciate feedback on the below which was taken early morning as the sun was fighting with the fog/mist

Thanks Tony

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/8643256856_ea57fd7e7e_o.jpg
20120113_EGCC_LN-RRT by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:39 pm

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 18):
the sun was fighting with the fog/mist

Hi Tony,

The quality doesn't look too bad but the contrast is very low because of the conditions. You'll need to increase the contrast a fair bit to get a solid black on that one. That may sometimes lead to other quality issues and banding in the sky so be careful when you increase it and keep a look out for it. Given that's a pretty common aircraft in the database and regularly visits MAN, it might not be one you'd want to spend too much time playing with.

Darren
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:16 pm

Hi Tony,

Like Darren I doubt you should spend much time on that one. Last time I had one like that I just couldn't get the contrast right without introducing other, quality-reducing issues.

No harm in trying though....

Karl
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:46 pm

I would say why fight it? If it was misty then the contrast should be low. It's an interesting shot and hopefully the screeners will agree. It does look somewhat grainy on the lower fuselage, though.

Marty
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:56 am

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 21):
If it was misty then the contrast should be low. It's an interesting shot and hopefully the screeners will agree.

This image will not make it through screening.
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:20 pm

Thanks everyone for giving your feedback

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 22):
This image will not make it through screening.

Guess its not worth bothering with this time.

Cheers Tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri May 24, 2013 3:10 pm

Appreciate views on the below pls?

Taken late afternoon - lots of spray and small birds disturbed, hopefully managed to sort them. The 330 air-frame was actually rather dirty.

tony

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/8814081036_83d931d3e5_o.jpg
20130503_B-6133_-EDDT-water-canon-1400 by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri May 24, 2013 3:44 pm

It looks good on my screen Tony. Whether it looks good on a screeners screen, time will tell!

Darren
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:56 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 1):
In the future, you can keep all pre-screening questions to one thread.

In the spirit of the above advice - I'd appreciate users and screeners views on the below pls

Thanks Tony

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5341/8951714302_f82fec834f_o.jpg
20130420_9M-MNF_-EGLL by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:03 pm

Views pls

tony


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5341/8951714302_f82fec834f_o.jpg
20130420_9M-MNF_-EGLL by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:44 pm

Looks fine to me in both posts.  

(I know, forum issues)
 
Tonyholt777
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RE: Pre-screening

Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:36 am

thanks Vik

Yeah I spoke with forum mods and they have given me the low down on the current hiccups   

tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:33 am

Hi

I uploaded this one (reply 24) and today got a rejection message 'low in frame - centred, personal)

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._b-6133_-eddt-water-canon-1400.jpg


I considered the composition relevant to the story when I sought pre-screening above and in order to get the height of the water canon salute in, the airframe was positioned accordingly.

If I placed the Hainan centred then there would have been loads of 'dead' space in the bottom half of the image and the main 'story' would have become distant losing the detail.

I understand its 'personal' or subjective if you like and therefore ask I you agree with the rejection or offer alternatives?

cheers tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:06 pm

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 30):
If I placed the Hainan centred then there would have been loads of 'dead' space in the bottom half of the image and the main 'story' would have become distant losing the detail.

As it is, there's a lot of dead space in the upper left, so looks a bit awkward in my opinion, but I'd need to see a different crop to tell you which one was better.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:51 pm

The only thing I can think of that I might do is not bother including the whole fire truck on the left. That would eliminate some of the dead space (though the airplane would then be even lower in the frame).

Personally, it is a slightly awkward-looking crop, but I probably would HQ it.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:56 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 31):
I'd need to see a different crop to tell you which one was better.

Dana

I've quickly done this version from the raw file taking away some dead space from below and the left side.

As best I can tell the Hainan would be centered in this way obviously zoomed out tho.

tony

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5346/8970671333_821ed21211_o.jpg
20130503_B-6133_ EDDT water canon 1280 by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:00 pm

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 33):
I've quickly done this version from the raw file taking away some dead space from below and the left side.

This one works better for me; the rainbow makes up for the wide crop on the right.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:01 pm

Hi all

Been kinda wondering whether to bother with this one or not? I took it towards the end of a rather sunny day at LHR. Albeit the sun was above the horizon it was rapidly getting low throwing some interesting light.

Cheers tony

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/9007047327_aa22a14489_o.jpg
20130420_CN-ROV_ EGLL 1280 by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:55 pm

Hi All

When I took this there was lots of contrast created by the fast moving thunder storms and brilliant sunshine. I decided to crop this one to include the traffic starting to line up behind the departing Monarch because I thought it really helps with the story of the very distinct weather moving through the airfield.

Given the conditions how do you think:

- The motive works
- The contrast looks

Any other comments welcome as always.

cheers T


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/9208737187_1027439145_o.jpg
20120830_G-OZBH_EGCC by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:37 pm

Hi Tony! I would say that this one may be a bit of a coin-flip motive wise. Given the recent screening adjustments, though, it may have a better chance. The Monarch 321 appears to be a bit overexposed though. I would bring the crop in a bit tighter on the left to emphasize focus on the aircraft and the thunderstorm. Very nice shot overall!

John
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:05 am

Hi,

I think the contrast is okay given the light, but it does look a bit bright.

As for the motive, I'm not sure either, but I would try to widen the crop on the right to give the following aircraft a bit more emphasis.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:55 pm

Quoting DL747 (Reply 37):
I would bring the crop in a bit tighter on the left to emphasize focus on the aircraft and the thunderstorm
Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 38):
but it does look a bit bright.
Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 38):
try to widen the crop on the right to give the following aircraft a bit more emphasis.

Thanks - I've done a re edit what do you think now?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7324/9216965182_e22c384c16_o.jpg
20120830_G-OZBH_EGCC modified by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 39):
I've done a re edit what do you think now?

Brightness looks good to me, and I like the new crop.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:23 pm

I'm not crazy about the motive, but I would pass it on for more opinions. I honestly couldn't tell you which way it would go in the end.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:50 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 41):
I honestly couldn't tell you which way it would go in the end.

Yea, seems to be the consensus - Thanks Vik, Marty and John.

Thought I'd just develop the motive debate a little to help me with future edits.

I took the below at Corfu, Greece. The single runway is built out towards the sea and aircraft departing often have to taxi to the end as you see and do a 360 deg turn as the Mint is doing - effectively lining up with Mt. Pantokrator in the picture on the nose.

Now I've left this image as I took it uncropped. I've done a quick quality edit to post here because I wonder how you would consider cropping it?

For me, the story is saying that this plane is going to have to climb fast and turn! To this end I would approach the crop trying to retain the height of the mountain and the leading line of the runway towards it whilst placing the aircraft relevant. When I do it so the aircraft is clearly not 'centred' however, I see many good images on here where thats the case (relevant the story of course).

cheers Tony

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/9223393388_5097ef12ab_o.jpg
20110613_EC-LBC_LGKR by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:41 pm

I would crop on the right side so the aircraft is centered horizontally (and a bit on the left too if you are concerned about a distance rejection) and remove according from the bottom. That might leave it low in the frame, but I'd say that the mountain makes it a reasonable motive. I have seen other photos in the db that were cropped similarly.
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:09 am

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 43):
the mountain makes it a reasonable motive.

Thanks thats where I kinda found myself with it. It would definitely sit low in the frame but I think the new centering approach might help the cause.

tony
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:01 am

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 42):
I've done a quick quality edit to post here because I wonder how you would consider cropping it?

Like this:

https://www.airliners.net/uf/5788/phpijtbwB.jpeg
 
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RE: Pre-screening

Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:00 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 45):
Like this:

Thanks Vik - That puts the centre point just on the top of fuselage whilst maintain perspective/motive. Will do it and drop into the queue

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I took the below at Heathrow 2 weeks back as the last of the sun dipped below the horizon. Its the transitional time for the light - kinda wondering if people think it works for here tho?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2856/9374714631_09827198a9_o.jpg
20130714_G-EUXH_EGLL line up 27L dusk by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr

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