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Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:00 am

Any feedback on this one would be great!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9072426426/lightbox/


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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:07 am

I think it needs a bit more contrast and also should be a bit lower in the frame.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:21 am

Centering is acceptable; but it could use some contrast. Also looks a bit heat hazed, though if could be Flickr compressing the image, if it does that.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:17 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
Also looks a bit heat hazed, though if could be Flickr compressing the image, if it does that


Hi all

don't want to hijack this but hopefully add.

I've been pondering one I took and wonder the same about Flickr compression?

I keep going back to it and thinking it just doesn't seem right compared to others same focal Length/Camera parameters/time/day? Check out the leading edge, cheat line and 'Boeing 777' pls?

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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/9076413951_99c942f969_o.jpg
20130420_A6-EFI_ EGLL 1280 by Anthony P Holt, on Flickr
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:07 pm

Can't say for sure, but it looks like it could be compressed. Also, the file size is ~175 kb; my similar images are usually in the vicinity of 300 kb. Granted that doesn't really mean anything on its own.

I would compare it with the version you have on your computer.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:47 pm

Here's a little more contrast
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9083173467/lightbox/

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 3):
don't want to hijack this but hopefully add.

Not at all, I like the pic of the 777.
Haha I wish I lived somewhere where there are 777s.

Also how do you attach the image to the post? I can never seem to make it work.

Thanks,
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:35 am

Any help with this DC10 10 Tanker Air Carrier would be greatly appreciated,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9089063305/lightbox/


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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:16 am

Could use a bit of contrast, and I would put it slightly lower in the frame.

Won't say anything about sharpening, because I'm still not sure about Flickr compression.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:35 pm

When you use flickr as an image host, it's best to link directly to the original uploaded file, which remains untouched by Flickr's compression/sharpening algos. Linking to the default photo page or lightbox view is a bad idea.

You can access the original file from the "All sizes" menu - http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9089063305/sizes/o/

If you want to embed the image in the a.net forum, then just right click on it, select "copy image location" and post it within [img] [/ img] tags (remove spaces).

And voilà!
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3783/9089063305_d5e1ba658d_o.jpg

Hope this helps

Cheers
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:37 pm

Thank you angad84, that helps a great deal!

Monsoon84
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:19 pm

Any help with this photo would be great!

This photo was rejected for quality blurry motive soft compression and contrast
https://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ame=c1371014568.4633dsc_0075n1.jpg

This photo rejection seemed awfully harsh; I don't understand where the motive rejection came from?
Is there any chance of saving it or should I toss it?

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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:52 am

Motive rejection is definitely inexplicable.

It does look a little blotchy and soft. Contrast seems a little low as does saturation.

Whether it's fixable depends on the original file. If you could post the original RAW, I could even have a go at editing it for you.

Cheers
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:03 pm

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 10):
Any help with this photo would be great!

Hi,

The screener is right (not sure about motive)

Firstly, its kinda 'washed out' overall to me and with a little adjustment in curves improves, the resultant light suggests a later afternoon shot (slight yellowish/low light - what time of the day was it taken?

If it were mine i'd concentrate on contrast/exposure/overall look of the image again. Then see how it looks when sharpened.

Good offer?

Quoting angad84 (Reply 11):
I could even have a go at editing it for you.

Also I think its a little high in the frame for me (too much dead space below)

cheers T
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:10 pm

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 10):
This photo rejection seemed awfully harsh; I don't understand where the motive rejection came from?

Don't see any reason for a motive rejection, but the 'motive' box is right next to that for grainy, so I'd assume that was meant to be a grainy rejection instead.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:19 pm

Thanks Dana for explaining the motive rejection,
and thank you Tonyholt777 with the help ( It was shot right as the sun was about to set).

Quoting angad84 (Reply 11):
If you could post the original RAW, I could even have a go at editing it for you.

Sure, that would be awesome! What would be the best way to post the file?


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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:48 am

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 14):
Sure, that would be awesome! What would be the best way to post the file?

Dropbox/mediafire or something along those lines.
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:47 am

Here it is,
http://www.mediafire.com/?szmjdvuh84h8v30

Thanks, Monsoon84
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:46 am

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 16):
Here it is,

That's really quite soft, to the point of blurriness - was it perhaps a little out of focus? Not sure you can fix it.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:51 pm

Looking at it again it does look out of focus,
thank you for the offer to edit it angad84.


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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:50 am

Here's what I came up with. I'm concerned it might be oversharpened and a little too contrasty, but sunset light often is punchy, so I went with my gut. Also, I wasn't there, so I don't know how accurate the white balance is, but I gave it a touch of warmth in keeping with the time of day.

http://i6.minus.com/i1IKqqyvdg29V.jpg

If Dana or anyone else reckons it looks ok, feel free to upload as-is.

Cheers
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:48 pm

Not a bad image, I would HQ it, but I think you should be uploading at 1024px wide, until you get your technique sorted out.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 19):
If Dana or anyone else reckons it looks ok, feel free to upload as-is.

While we are happy to help, you still have to do the uploading 
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:14 pm

I'd agree with Royal - not too bad, but you'd do better smaller. Still a bit soft. I would probably give it a bit of contrast too, though it may be acceptable as is.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:29 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 20):
While we are happy to help, you still have to do the uploading

No, I meant that if you pros think it's solid, then monsoon84 should upload my edit as it is without having to bother trying to replicate it.

Although monsoon, if you want, I could screenshot the settings I used in LR4 and you could try and match those in your editing software of choice.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 21):
I'd agree with Royal - not too bad, but you'd do better smaller. Still a bit soft. I would probably give it a bit of contrast too, though it may be acceptable as is.

Hmmm, looking at it again a day later (and minus the hangover) I see what you mean.
This re-edit should be passable, even at 1200px?

http://i4.minus.com/ioFTpFqh9nU07.jpg

Cheers

EDIT: There appears to be a vignette or some sort of darkening on the left part of the shot. Dunno if that's a shadow (in which case it might be acceptable?) or a vignette, in which case it is beyond my skills to fix.

[Edited 2013-06-29 00:32:27]
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:13 pm

Wow that looks really good; there was a shadow in the corner if I remember correctly.

Quoting angad84 (Reply 22):
Although monsoon, if you want, I could screenshot the settings I used in LR4 and you could try and match those in your editing software of choice.

Either way would be fine with me, I'll definitely give you the credit.

I'm still pretty new with editing so thank you for the help! 
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 am

Quoting angad84 (Reply 22):
This re-edit should be passable, even at 1200px?

Still a bit soft for me, probably borderline overall. You'd have a better shot at 1024.
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:37 pm

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 23):
Either way would be fine with me, I'll definitely give you the credit.

If you want to chance it as-is, just resize my edit to 1024px and be done with it.

If not, here is what my LR4 settings panels looked like:

Basic settings:


Sharpening/noise settings:


As you can see, especially in the sharpening panel, I've had to really push the image (I usually never go above amt:100, mask:20).

TBH, I only did this to see if I could. Dana was right the first time - it was always going to be a long shot to salvage the shot. Still, I hope the basic panel helps you with future editing.

Cheers

Angad
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:00 pm

Well thank you Angad84 for all of the help! It will really help me in the future!

Thanks
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:55 pm

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 6):

Congrats on getting the DC-10 Tanker shot in the DB. 'Tis a great shot:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Kenneth Armijo

 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:51 pm

Thanks! I think it made it into the top 5? I was asleep when it would have   
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:02 am

Yep, it was in the Top 5. Great job!
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:06 am

Any help with this shot of SJC 's terminal B would be great!
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../z1373439623.2794dsc_0284_01n1.jpg



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[Edited 2013-07-10 00:07:40]
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:08 am

Just hoping for some feedback on this shot

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/w1374044727.447dsc_0506_01n3.jpg

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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:58 am

Looks soft, although that could be an issue with the weird colour fringing around the aircraft.

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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:04 pm

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 31):
Just hoping for some feedback on this shot

Hi

Over cooked colours/warmth

Airframe suffering heat haze/oversharpened.

Distance

Looks like some dust spots too

Tony
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:27 pm

Thats really too bad about the heat haze; it was one of the best sunsets I've ever seen...


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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:25 pm

Just had this one rejected for grainy and soft,
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...723_y1373443221.0223dsc_0288n1.jpg

What is the best way the reduce the grain?

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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:18 am

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 35):
Just had this one rejected for grainy and soft,
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...723_y1373443221.0223dsc_0288n1.jpg

What is the best way the reduce the grain?

I don't see much grain to speak of - there's a bit in the sky, but I think it's acceptable. But in general, noise reduction is used to reduce grain.

It is soft, though, and there are a couple of dust spots behind the winglet that you may want to take care of.  
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:31 pm

Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 35):
What is the best way the reduce the grain?

Best answer must be in your original capture technique etc...That said once its there, there's a myriad of applications out there but the trade of might be a softer image.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 36):
t is soft, though, and there are a couple of dust spots

I don't see major grain issues in the image however, if you do start to apply reduction Viks other points around softness must be considered in the overall finished image.

Dust spots were very obvious to me so I'd expect the original screener to have mentioned them in the rejection - yes?

Anyhow good luck with it

T
 
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:10 am

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 36):
It is soft, though, and there are a couple of dust spots behind the winglet that you may want to take care of.
Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 37):
Dust spots were very obvious to me so I'd expect the original screener to have mentioned them in the rejection - yes?

Wow, I cant believe I missed those. No mention of the dust spots in the rejection info.

I tried to fix it up how does this look,

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/n1375074286.779dsc_0288n2.jpg

Thanks you both for the feedback,
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RE: Pre Screening -AZA-

Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:08 am

Quoting Tonyholt777 (Reply 37):
Dust spots were very obvious to me so I'd expect the original screener to have mentioned them in the rejection - yes?
Quoting monsoon84 (Reply 38):

Wow, I cant believe I missed those. No mention of the dust spots in the rejection info.

Usually, yes, but we're only human.  

Anyway, it's still a bit soft - I'd recommend trying at a smaller size; there's a bit of banding in the sky too, and I can still see a remnant of one of the dust spots.

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