Pre-Screening

mohammedzaheer · Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:17 am

Hello Screeners and members,

Can I get a pre-screen on these two images?

http://imageshack.com/a/img15/5977/v78w.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img36/3062/4qpw.jpg

Thanks in advance

kiffy · Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:39 am

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Thread starter):
http://imageshack.com/a/img15/5977/v78w.jpg

It's grainy, soft, there is some compression and lacks overall quality. It looks like it was a heavy crop.

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Thread starter):
http://imageshack.com/a/img36/3062/4qpw.jpg

It's grainy, especially in the shadows but other than that it looks good.

mohammedzaheer · Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:51 am

Thanks for the input! I'll work on the second one. The first one was cropped quite a bit, good eye!

len90 · Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:02 am

Agree completely with kiffy. First one definitely does not have quality to make it here. Second one, you need to adjust your levels. Looked at in photoshop and that makes a difference.

mohammedzaheer · Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:28 pm

Quoting len90 (Reply 3):

Thanks, are you able to give some advice adjusting the levels? Once I press ctrl+l, everything seems to be balanced should I make it a bit darker?

Thanks

len90 · Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:28 pm

Which program are you using? I use photoshop on a Mac so I go to Image -> Adjustment -> Levels and it pulls up the histogram to adjust the levels. Not sure what you are using.

alevik · Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:08 pm

The Dash 8 as noted looks like it was a heavy crop - don't think this one can be salvaged.

The CRJ also as noted needs a levels adjustment, like below.

Pete

len90 · Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:20 am

Thanks Alevik for posting that. I was going to do that, but forgot to do it and then my school computer (one that we use for exams) decided to die. I would agree with your adjustments. Think I was at 15 for the left slider when I looked at it last night.

mohammedzaheer · Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:56 am

Thanks guys! I'll fix this up and re-post

mohammedzaheer · Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:31 pm

Hello everyone!

This one is in the queue, however still making me scratch my head haha.

To my eyes looks good for the DB, any other input will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...90837944.247ac-c-fejf-img_3881.jpg

DL747 · Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:47 pm

Hi,

It seems a bit noisy, particularly in the shadows and seems to have a red cast.

John

mohammedzaheer · Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:11 pm

Hey John,

Thanks !

mohammedzaheer · Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:19 pm

Hello All,

Which one is better to upload? I personally like both, but I know only one can be accepted. Thanks.

mjgbtv · Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:48 am

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Reply 12):
Which one is better to upload?

Quality-wise they look pretty much equal (good) to me. I think I like the angle of the bottom one a bit better so I would upload that one if they were mine.

mohammedzaheer · Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:51 pm

Sounds good! I was leaning towards that one too.

thank you very much Marty!

len90 · Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:41 am

Have to agree with the second one being a nicer angle. Only thing I would do is some selective sharpening on places. Titles might be a little soft.

mohammedzaheer · Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:37 pm

Will work on that!

I actually thought it was too sharpened as I had to erase some haha. I'll put this in the queue with more sharpening on the titles

Thanks

mohammedzaheer · Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:37 pm

Hello all again,

looking for a general check on this, more concerned about the crop as the wings are a bit cut.

Thanks

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2570963993/sizes/o/in/photostream/

len90 · Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:00 pm

Shouldn't have any issues with the motive as it is an equal crop around the fuselage.

mohammedzaheer · Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:16 pm

Thanks Len for the input

RCoulter · Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:59 pm

Just to be safe I would crop closer to the "J" on the wing, but that's just me...

DL747 · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:04 am

I'd have to agree with Ryan on this one. It looks a bit haphazard as-is and I think a closer crop would be beneficial. However, to Len's point, it may be fine as is. I might suggest waiting for screener input as those folks would be better able to direct the crop.

John

kann123air · Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:07 am

Or you could just do a different crop with the whole wing visible, just to be safe (provided your original shot has that).

mohammedzaheer · Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Thanks everyone for the input! If I can keep it the way it is that would be first choice, otherwise I'll have to re-edit once again

. The only thing I don't have of this aircraft is the wings fully captured hence why I decided to crop

. I was thinking of even cropping down further just showing the front of the aircraft but I prefer the wings to show the way it is but looking what's right.

Mohammed

mohammedzaheer · Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:23 pm

Hey All,

looking to get some feedback on this one...

Thanks

kiffy · Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:12 pm

The image looks to have great potential but the linked-to photo is severely compressed so commenting on the other aspects is futile.

mohammedzaheer · Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:37 pm

I think its photobucket.com

here is the image on flickr, i was thinking the same thing and I couldnt edit my post.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704063173/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Also I was digging up a few photos and re-edited these, wanted a general check on these being accepted.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704506845/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704506985/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704507135/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Thanks in advance!

kiffy · Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:19 am

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704063173/sizes/o/in/photostream/
I really like this shot. The nose is a tad blurred but hopefully OK and the leading edge of the wing is oversharp. There's also a fair amount of grain on the belly.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704506845/sizes/o/in/photostream/
Grainy and also looks like it might be suffering from compression or it was a heavy crop...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704506985/sizes/o/in/photostream/
Grainy in the shadows and the sky above looks a little blotchy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2704507135/sizes/o/in/photostream/
Grainy and borderline oversharp.

mohammedzaheer · Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:22 am

Great, thanks for the feedback I'll work on that

mohammedzaheer · Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:33 am

How is this?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...2806183985/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Thanks

kann123air · Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:42 am

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Reply 29):
How is this?

Looks soft towards the front, especially the nose area.

mohammedzaheer · Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:14 am

Quoting kann123air (Reply 30):

Thanks, i'm going through so many old pictures getting a feel If I should even upload these or not heh.

I'll apply more sharpening, I did see the image a bit soft.

mohammedzaheer · Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:39 pm

I went for a new approach, looking for feedback on these. Looking out for a general check especially motive as this would be new for me.

Thanks in adavnce

http://www.flickr.com/photos/114493668@N03/12910044655/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114493668@N03/12910137093/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114493668@N03/12910137173/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114493668@N03/12910045455/sizes/o/

mjgbtv · Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:13 am

1. Motive seems fine. A bit dark, but I like the moodiness, and the quality seems good considering the lighting.
2. Similar to 1 except the lighting does not seem quite as interesting. In other words, someone might say that #1 is creatively-lit whereas #2 is just backlit.
3. Could probably be cropped closer on the sides, and the branches touching the nose wheel is awkward.
4. I think this would probably be a distance rejection. The pole on the side seems more distracting than interesting.

DL747 · Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:41 am

Hi,

1. Might get by on the creative lighting as Marty said, but I'm not really much of a fan of it and the foreground clutter is really distracting, imo. It also looks a bit soft.
2. Looks a bit soft in areas, the lighting isn't really that great.
3. Looks flat, foreground clutter is pretty distracting, and as said above, it probably should be cropped closer.
4. Lighting isn't that great and the pole is really a problem.

John

mohammedzaheer · Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:58 am

I appreciate your guys feedback, if these images don't have a chance no worries as they will go in my personal collection.

Each A/C I snapped a rear pic, I also got a front view for acceptance. But I really like these images as it's something different than my normal shooting. I just hate overcast weather, these images were edited in LR, I feel sharpness is much better in PS. The overcast weather is really bugging me making it very hard to mask the A/C. If any tips for masking please do share!!

But main concern for these images considering the sun is in front, with a good edit do they have a chance you think?

For #4 If i do a tighter crop, what about being backlit?

Thanks

Also any thoughts on these?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/114493668@N03/12920306794/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114493668@N03/12919893005/sizes/o/

[Edited 2014-03-03 20:09:45]

len90 · Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:30 am

Those last two, think both of them suffer from not centered. The second one may have just too much distortion for the jet wash. I know there was one recently rejected for too much jet wash distortion with a similar angle, but on the ground.

mohammedzaheer · Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:37 am

Sounds good! I'll keep the second for my personal collection and center the first. When I have a free slot I'll toss it in worst case it gets rejected. Lol.

Thanks Len.

vikkyvik · Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:42 am

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Reply 35):
The overcast weather is really bugging me making it very hard to mask the A/C. If any tips for masking please do share!!

Use the Polygonal Lasso tool, and just draw approximately around the aircraft. I do that all the time for images where using the Magic Wand won't work well (so basically any image that isn't aircraft-against-blue-sky). You don't need to trace exactly around the aircraft - as time has gone on, I've sacrificed accuracy for speed in that regard.

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Reply 35):
I just hate overcast weather

Overcast can be quite annoying when there's not anything special going on with the light. But keep at it and sometimes you'll capture something interesting, especially toward sunset if the sun shines through from under the clouds (sorry for the self-plug):

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Photo © Vik S

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Reply 35):
Also any thoughts on these?

The first is high in frame and looks a bit oversharpened. The second is very high and soft (too much jetwash, I think). Neither has great lighting, so I think they're both nonstarters for A.net.

mohammedzaheer · Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:11 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 38):
Use the Polygonal Lasso tool, and just draw approximately around the aircraft. I do that all the time for images where using the Magic Wand won't work well (so basically any image that isn't aircraft-against-blue-sky). You don't need to trace exactly around the aircraft - as time has gone on, I've sacrificed accuracy for speed in that regard.

Sounds good! I will try that out, usually it's either the magic or quick selection for me. Your right about the accuracy part as I'm starting to do the same at times

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 38):
Overcast can be quite annoying when there's not anything special going on with the light. But keep at it and sometimes you'll capture something interesting, especially toward sunset if the sun shines through from under the clouds (sorry for the self-plug):

Absolutely, that is a gorgeous pic. I'll keep an eye out for the sun to be in the right spot.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 38):
The first is high in frame and looks a bit oversharpened. The second is very high and soft (too much jetwash, I think). Neither has great lighting, so I think they're both nonstarters for A.net.

I figured these were long shots, considering the sun being in the front rather than on the side. But at least i'll keep these for my personal collection

Thanks Vik for your input!

mohammedzaheer · Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:15 am

Hello All,

Can I get some input on this? Finally caught it!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...3020888105/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Thanks

Mohammed

DL747 · Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:23 am

Hi,

I think it might marginally oversharpened in areas. A small kick of contrast might also be beneficial, but it looks pretty good to start.

John

len90 · Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:50 am

Viewing on my school computer, which has a terrible display, but I thought it looked pretty good overall. Didn't really see the oversharpening.

mohammedzaheer · Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:56 pm

Thanks for the input John & Len. I thought it was borderline myself, just wanted to see what others thought

mohammedzaheer · Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:29 pm

Hey everyone,

would this qualify for a tail shot?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1144936...3174624305/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Thanks

DL747 · Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:23 pm

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Reply 44):
would this qualify for a tail shot?

I think so, yes, However it looks like it was a pretty big crop and the quality isn't really very good at all. Perhaps some noise reduction, sharpening, etc can fix it but honestly I think your time is better spent on other shots.

John

[Edited 2014-03-15 15:25:32]

mohammedzaheer · Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:56 am

Hey John,

Ya it was cropped a bit. Thought I'd ask if it had a shot. Thanks.

mjgbtv · Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:04 am

Quoting mohammedzaheer (Reply 44):
would this qualify for a tail shot?

I have not looked for evidence either way in the database, but I suspect that you might run into a motive rejection because a significant portion of the tail is blocked by the horizontal stab...

len90 · Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:35 am

Tail shots are usually taken when the plane is on the ground to allow for less blocking by the horizontal stabilizer.

mohammedzaheer · Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:18 pm

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 47):
I have not looked for evidence either way in the database, but I suspect that you might run into a motive rejection because a significant portion of the tail is blocked by the horizontal stab...

Fair enough, thanks Marty.

Quoting len90 (Reply 48):

Tail shots are usually taken when the plane is on the ground to allow for less blocking by the horizontal stabilizer.

Ya, this was taking while the A/C flew just over.

Appreciate the feedback!

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