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Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:10 pm

Hi all,

I've been getting a lot of Soft and Contrast rejections lately for Military aircraft, and I'm going to be doing some reedits on the majority of them. What can I do to help fix these? Here are some examples of my rejections. I've been using around 65-70% with sharpening in Photoshop elements and between 65-69 Contrast in Lightroom.

Contrast Flat and soft
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0092966.546162-3575-kc135-6aww.jpg

Soft and Low Contrast
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...9945.663190-0239-391st-f15e-mo.jpg

Soft and more contrast
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...9_l1439238653.664290-0242-f15e.jpg

Soft and needs contrast
https://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._e1439240928.43590-244-f15e-mo.jpg

Thanks!

[Edited 2015-08-30 13:13:41]
 
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:49 pm

Are they out of camera JPGs or RAW developed? I see terrible chromatics on wheels...
 
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:08 pm

Quoting Kulverstukas (Reply 1):

I shoot RAW. Could that be becuase of selective Sharpening?
 
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:22 pm

Quoting CJMoeser (Thread starter):
What can I do to help fix these?

It almost looks like you've lifted the shadows - especially on the first one. Contrast is quite noticeably low on all of them. The fighters could all probably use a slight brightness boost, too.

Quoting CJMoeser (Reply 2):
I shoot RAW. Could that be becuase of selective Sharpening?

Sharpening will make fringing worse look worse, yes. But it's caused by the lens.

I wouldn't worry too much about it - the last shot is the only one that has fringing that I would call noticeable.
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:25 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 3):
It almost looks like you've lifted the shadows - especially on the first one. Contrast is quite noticeably low on all of them. The fighters could all probably use a slight brightness boost, too.

I did lift the shadows on them, becuase they were very dark otherwise. Add contrast then and a little exposer?
 
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:48 pm

Use lens profile correction in LR, if it doesn't recognize your lens, try to choose it manually. It will remove fringes.
 
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:06 am

Quoting CJMoeser (Reply 4):
I did lift the shadows on them, becuase they were very dark otherwise.

Gotcha. That will give them the very low-contrast look that they have. You can sometimes get away with a bit of shadow-brightening, but not nearly this much.

Quoting CJMoeser (Reply 4):
Add contrast then and a little exposer?

Doesn't matter to me the order you do it in. I do both at the same time by using the "Levels" histogram in Photoshop.

Basically, you need to darken the blacks, darken the mids, and brighten the whites, on the fighters, at least. The 135 looks bright enough.
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:31 am

Quoting Kulverstukas (Reply 5):
Use lens profile correction in LR, if it doesn't recognize your lens, try to choose it manually. It will remove fringes.

I don't believe it has a Sigma 50-500 on there... I'll double check thought.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 6):
Quoting CJMoeser (Reply 4):I did lift the shadows on them, becuase they were very dark otherwise.
Gotcha. That will give them the very low-contrast look that they have. You can sometimes get away with a bit of shadow-brightening, but not nearly this much.

Ok I'll give that a try and do a little bit work with the levels instead of the shadows and see how that Goes.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 6):
The 135 looks bright enough.

Appeal Maybe?
 
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RE: Post Screen Contrast & Soft

Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:25 am

Quoting CJMoeser (Reply 7):
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 6):
The 135 looks bright enough.

Appeal Maybe?

No. It's still soft and the contrast is low. "Dark" wasn't a rejection reason (at least you didn't mention it).
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