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Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:25 pm

Way back in December I had already planned most of my 3-month summer tour of Europe, but I hadn’t decided on how I would return home. I narrowed my options to a flight from Europe directly to Minneapolis (boring, but the quickest), fly from Europe to Chicago and then Amtrak to St. Paul, or the very crazy and expensive idea of flying east through Asia to get back home. One cold night after work I made a short trip to Union Depot as I knew the westbound Empire Builder was scheduled to arrive and depart around the time I would arrive. Sure enough the train was on time and around fifty people were waiting to get on. Seeing that trip was on time, and looking at Amtrak’s train tracker and seeing multiple times that the train was on time, I decided arriving in the Twin Cities by train was what I wanted to do. If the train were late it would be no problem for me as I had nothing scheduled for when I arrived home. To make sure I would be well rested after the flight, I booked my train for the day after I arrived in Chicago and booked a roomette so I would have a much better chance at peace and quiet recovering from jet lag.

The roomette was $185 including travel insurance, whereas business class or first class on a flight from Chicago to Minneapolis is at least $250 (keeping in mind that’s a random sample search I did and I’m not an expert on airfares between Minneapolis and Chicago). The perks with the roomette in addition to quiet and privacy were access to the Metropolitan Lounge at Chicago Union Station as well as dinner and dessert in the dining car included.

I arrived in Chicago from AMS on a KL 74M on September 30th. Extremely tired and jet lagged as I had to stay overnight at OSL for my early morning flight to AMS, I had good enough rest at a hostel in Chicago’s Greektown area. The train was scheduled to leave at 2:15 PM, and it was only a short walk to the train station so I had plenty of time to relax. I waited in the Metropolitan Lounge for a few hours and went on the internet catching up with Twin Cities news and trying my best not to look at the television screens with the latest news on the chaos in Washington. There was free soda, tea, coffee, and hot chocolate, plus apples, a veggie platter, and a cheese platter. People traveling on the Texas Eagle and California Zephyr left to board their train, and shortly thereafter it was the Empire Builder’s turn. The only issue with the Metropolitan Lounge is that its not an easy route between there and the train platforms. There were a few turns and having to backtrack a little to get in line to board the train. Luckily my roomette was on the last car of the train so I didn’t have to walk far along the dark platforms of Chicago’s Union Station. With a heavy backpack and a large suitcase it was a bit of a struggle walking up the narrow staircase to my room. I could’ve checked in my bag, but after an airline lost my suitcase in Stockholm for a few days I kept my suitcase with me as much as possible (even though the chances of Amtrak losing your bag are probably slim especially just taking one train).

I had no expectations for when the train would depart Chicago and arrive in St. Paul. I was in my very comfortable roomette and was mentally prepared for long delays. The train departed Chicago on time and we slowly winded our way out of Downtown Chicago, and kept a good speed of up to 79 miles per hour to Milwaukee.

The roomette I was in was made for one or two people. The two large, plush seats can be folded to make a bed, and above me was a bunk for the second person. Since I wouldn’t be on the train overnight I didn’t have to fold out the bed, but if you plan to use the bed its best you check-in your luggage or use one of the luggage racks in the coach to make room. The coaches are called Superliners, and are between a couple decades old to four decades old. The interior of the roomette shows its age, but its still very nice.

The attendant went to each room to get our reservation time for the dining car. West of Milwaukee we were still moving at a good speed of 60-79 miles per hour. Near the town of Ixonia, Wisconsin we pulled onto a siding to let the eastbound Empire Builder pass, which was running a couple hours late. Through central Wisconsin there was heavy rain and so much cloud cover that it looked like the sun already set despite being only 4:00 PM.

Each reservation time for the dining car was announced on the PA, and people made their way to the dining car. For me the dining car was six cars away, but I walked over 10,000 steps almost everyday in Europe, so this was easy. On a few of the gangways connecting coaches the rain seeped through, so I was a little wet arriving for dinner. Since there is limited space on the dining car, some people had to sit together with random strangers. Me being an introvert this was a small step out of my comfort zone, but I was with nice people and we talked about our travels. There were eight meal options ranging from pasta or salad to a platter of steak and seafood. I chose the steak with mashed potatoes, green beans, and a salad, which were far beyond my usual cold sandwiches and salty snacks traveling around Europe. There were a few options for dessert, and I chose the chocolate cake, which was also quite good.

Throughout the rest of the trip we met a few freight trains, and the stops along the way had, from what I saw, a few people to around ten people getting off and getting on. There isn’t wifi on the train, so I mostly passed the time watching the scenery of rolling farm fields and pockets of forest, playing chess on my laptop, and every once in awhile using data on my phone to see where the train was at. I wasn’t stressed about being on time, but of course I preferred getting to the Twin Cities before midnight to get some rest. There were a few segments, besides station stops, where we slowed down below 60 miles per hour, but no nightmarish delays.

Unfortunately I was on the opposite side of the Mississippi River for most of the trip past La Crosse, but it was dark so most of the scenery couldn’t be seen. We passed the giant rail yards south of St. Paul, and crawled through the curve heading to St. Paul Union Depot. The attendant announced “Minneapolis and St. Paul”, and made it clear that this station was for both St. Paul and Minneapolis. There would be a 20 minute layover before the train continued west. I lugged my backpack and suitcase down the stairs and tens of people walked towards the stairs to the concourse. I checked my phone to see what the time was, and smiling to myself I saw that we were actually four minutes early. My mother picked me up and we headed home.

In terms of comfort and punctuality, the Empire Builder shockingly beat most of the train trips I took in Europe. Of course in terms of comfort the Empire Builder had an advantage with the roomette, whereas in Europe I was in coach (or a few times standing because I couldn’t find a seat in coach). However, the Empire Builder had more than just the roomette to make it a better experience over some of my European train travels.

I boarded the Empire Builder at its starting point, and got off at a station with a long layover. In Europe I boarded trains at intermediate stations, and there was very little time to find my coach and seat before the train began moving. In addition to that there were many people getting on and off at these stations, so it was difficult or impossible to find an attendant to see where my coach was. The European trains are also much smaller than the Empire Builder, so seating was usually full. European trains also don’t have baggage cars, so you either find a luggage rack, or occupy a seat with your luggage if the racks are already full, or if all the seats are taken you block the aisle with it and create a hazard. I was also unlucky enough to have multiple train trips requiring changing trains despite booking a ticket for a one-seat ride, one bus transfer due to construction, and one train detour that, if I hadn’t caught it early, would’ve made me go 200 miles away from my intended destination. That isn’t to say the Empire Builder never has bus substitutions, but as much as people like to believe European train travel is perfect, its not. No mode of transportation is immune to delays, detours, cancellations, substitutions, or other stressful situations.

Unlike European train travel where people see it as successful, and a needed form of transportation, Amtrak is generalized as always being late, only for train fanatics, a waste of money, and not necessary in most of the country. It is true that Amtrak loses money, and there will probably be changes in the near future to reduce losses. My hope is that it becomes an efficient operation without resorting to the tactics of low-cost airlines. Prices may be raised to better represent the true ticket cost, but Amtrak will likely always lose money to an extent. However in our country, where we throw money at roads and airports, there should not be a double standard that Amtrak needs to be profitable.

The success of my Empire Builder trip from Chicago to St. Paul showed me that it can be a much better experience than flying, driving, or taking the bus. It deserves to be made even better with more trips along certain segments of the route, upgraded track for higher speeds, more track capacity to reduce waiting for other trains to pass, and new locomotives and coaches. If it can be a great experience in the present like I had, imagine how great it could be if we invested more in it.
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Re: Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:02 am

af773atmsp wrote:
The success of my Empire Builder trip from Chicago to St. Paul showed me that it can be a much better experience than flying, driving, or taking the bus. It deserves to be made even better with more trips along certain segments of the route, upgraded track for higher speeds, more track capacity to reduce waiting for other trains to pass, and new locomotives and coaches. If it can be a great experience in the present like I had, imagine how great it could be if we invested more in it.

I've only ever utilized Amtrak's Hiawatha service which runs between Chicago and Milwaukee, but this weekend I am taking the Wolverine to Ann Arbor, Michigan. It's probably a long way off from actually happening, but there's been some talk of adding a second daily frequency on the Empire Builder route (link below). Interestingly, when booking tickets on Amtrak's site the Empire Builder is not an option to travel between Chicago and Milwaukee.

http://www.startribune.com/additional-t ... 494081611/
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Re: Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:35 am

mke717spotter wrote:
Interestingly, when booking tickets on Amtrak's site the Empire Builder is not an option to travel between Chicago and Milwaukee.

http://www.startribune.com/additional-t ... 494081611/


https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/proj ... 042918.pdf

The Empire Builder is only bookable past Milwaukee. You can't travel solely between Milwaukee and Chicago in either direction. Note the D and R letters in the schedule.
This is the case for many long distance trains in the Amtrak system. For example, many south-bound long distance trains from NY (to New Orleans, Florida etc) are unbookable solely between NYC and DC. The California Zephyr (Emeryville, SF Bay - Chicago) is unbookable solely between Emeryville and Sacramento.

This is to prevent short distance local passengers from taking up all the seats. Imagine all seats are booked by local passengers between Milwaukee and Chicago, then the folks traveling Chicago-Seattle would have no seats left, which defeats the purpose of the train anyways.
 
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Re: Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:15 pm

I’m actually thinking of taking this train to SEA then flying home. I was planning of the roomette as well. Interesting that you brought up sitting with strangers in the dining car I to am rather antisocial so I’m a little worried about that.
 
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Re: Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:26 am

tomaheath wrote:
I’m actually thinking of taking this train to SEA then flying home. I was planning of the roomette as well. Interesting that you brought up sitting with strangers in the dining car I to am rather antisocial so I’m a little worried about that.


I believe you can order room service and have your sleeping car attendant deliver your meals to your roomette.
You probably need to tip the attendant a bit more though.
 
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Re: Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:08 am

We are taking the Empire Builder at the end of April. We decided that traveling with small children in a train would be much better than in a car! The kids are really excited for the train ride, plus we are happy we don't have to worry about parking downtown Chicago.
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Re: Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:10 pm

Interesting report - thanks for sharing! Was this your first experience with Amtrak?

Part of the problem with trains in the U.S. is distance - San Diego to Chicago is in the neighborhood of 48 hours. Southwest will get you there in four. Amtrak can't compete over long distances.

But they serve a vital function in the relatively short-distance corridors, such as Washington-Baltimore-Philadelphia-NYC-Boston, San Diego-Los Angeles-Santa Barbara-San Luis Obispo, Bakersfield-Fresno-Sacramento/Bay Area, Bay Area-Sacramento, Chicago-Milwaukee, Chicago-St. Louis, NYC-Pennsylvania, and Portland-Seattle (to name a few). This is where they offer MUCH more competitive service, usually downtown to downtown.

But the long-distance trains still serve a purpose - not everyone can fly, and some of the towns en-route depend on this service. And if you're going Amtrak long-distance, getting the "sleeper car service" is the way to go - any overnight trip with a lie-flat bed is worth the cost! And Amtrak's dining car...one of the best steaks I have ever had!

If you ever get the chance, the trip between Denver and Sacramento/The Bay Area on The California Zephyr is utterly amazing. The scenery is indescribably beautiful, and it is worth every penny.
 
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Re: Train Trip Report: Amtrak Empire Builder CHI-MSP (no pics)

Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:33 am

Taken AMTRAK Boise,ID- Pensleton, OR R/T, Seattle- Portland ow, Chi-Mke a couple times, Sacramento-Modesto,CA once, and ow SLC-DEN thru the Rocky Mtns. Like traveling via rail and has been usually very good experience. Nice to see a report on them here.
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