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VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:28 am

Due to a family ceremony I had to make a short trip from Valencia (Venezuela) to Guyaquil on a week-end.

I had already gone to GYE (but leaving from CCS) in July, and made a trip report

https://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/82813

but as there are some differences, I decides to make a TR for this journey also.

After studying the possible schedules, I found that the best option was AV, as there is a VLN-BOG flight leaving at 12:15. Unfortunately this flight only operates (for now) from Tuesday to Friday, so if I could use it for the outbound leg, I had to come back through CCS, as I would travel a Sunday.

I tried to buy my ticket on the AV website, but the transaction froze in the middle. As I did this on the 12 of October, which was a bank holiday in Venezuela, I went to Valencia airport, where I bought the ticket. The AV employee there was especially friendly and efficient and I rapidly was all set for my trip. I was not able to give him my contact details in GYE, as I was not yet sure of the hotel, and as I knew my GSM phone would not operate in GYE. So he told me to give this information when flying, as it was necessary to be able to contact me, should anything happen.

November Friday 03rd 2006

As I had passed in the office in the morning to finish some things, a colleague drove me to the VLN airport where we arrived at 09:55.
Along the way we saw a man running along the road like if he had the devil behind him.
In fact it might not be the devil, but the police, as when my colleague returned he was blocked by a police operation that left at least one person shot down.

In the airport it was fortunately quieter, and as there were 4 counters opened for the AV flight I was checked in 3 minutes, with boarding passes for my 2 legs VLN-BOG and BOG-GYE.
I asked the employee to enter the phone number of my hotel in the system, as required when booking, but he told me it was not possible and "to do it in BOG".
Exiting the check-in counters I noticed the AV ticketing employee that had sold me the ticket, so I went to him. He recognized me, and in no time entered in the system the hotel phone number. I guess the check-in employee, if he was not able to do this himself, could have directed me to his colleague. Well…

For the VLN airport itself, nothing special to say, as it has not changed since my last TR from there
https://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/84728

The international gate was closed, so I stayed on the terrace upstairs and saw a Dutch Antilles Express flight leaving. Due to trees in front of the terminal I could only take this photo:



At 10.40 something was said in the airport loudspeakers. As in most of airports, it was impossible to understand what was said, and even more if it is not your original language. However the last word was "Bogota", and as the AV flight was the only flight to BOG I joined the queue that was forming at the entrance of the international gate.

Let's add, to be complete, that the AV flight never appeared on the monitors or the departing flight board. Once again I wonder why it is so difficult to have accurate information in airports around the world (VLN may manage around 20 departing flights a day, so a daily check of the list should not be an overwhelming task).

Safety and immigration checks were conducted quite efficiently (the longer being the manual screening of all hand luggage, whatever the result of the scanner), and at 11:00 I was in the boarding room, where an employee with a yellow Dutch Antilles Express was collecting boarding passes for the AV flight, and checking them on a numbered list.

At 11:25 the flight from BOG arrived, and the plane stopped in front of the terminal, as usual in VLN.

Flight AV 117 VLN-BOG operated by SAM
F100 HK-4430-X
Scheduled 12:15 – 13:05
Real 12:06 – 12:43

At 11:44 boarding was called for Business class, then by groups, and we walked to the plane. This is really a great way to board!




At 11:58 everybody was on-board, and the door was closed at 12:00, with a load factor of around 95%.
We pushed back at 12:06, and after a long taxi on the runway, took off at 12:13.

At 12:30 the snack service started.

The chicken sandwich was quite tasty.

After the end of the meal service the flight was uneventful.

The approach was made in the clouds, with a very steep descent just before touching down, which occurred at 12:38 (BOG time, one hour behind VLN).

We were at gate C2 at 12:42, door opened at 12:43 and we disembarked with stairs (even though there is a jetway at this gate).

Nothing specific to say for the transit, identical to the one I detailed in my above mentioned TR.

Flight AV 113 BOG-GYE operated by SAM
F100 HK-4430-X
Scheduled 15:50 – 17:40
Real 15:42 – 17:32

To my surprise my second leg was made using the plane that I used for the first leg, and as I had the same seat, there was an impression of "deja vu".


Boarding passes were collected at the entrance of the boarding room, and boarding started at 15:15, by rows. As for the arrival the jetway was not used, so we went down one level to go to the apron.
The door was closed at 15:39, and we pushed back at 15:42.
The flight was 60% full only.


While taxiing we saw the AF flight arriving from Paris 30 minutes ahead of schedule.
We took of at 15:54.

The snack service started at 16:15.

The sandwich was not as good as the one served on the VLN-BOG leg.

The flight was mainly over clouds, with this view nevertheless:


The descent started at 17:00 and we landed in GYE at 17:23. During the taxi I took some photos of the new terminal building, in service since August.



We reached gate 6 at 17:28, but there was quite a long wait as the door was opened at 17:32 only.
The second part of the jetways has glass panels:


As gate 6 is the last gate on the right side of the terminal, there was some walking to reach the exit, so I was at immigration at 17:39 only.

For immigration there is something to know: each line serves 4 counters. But some of the counters are not staffed. I went for a line with 3 counters staffed, which obviously advanced far more quickly than the lines on the side, where only 1 or 2 counters were manned. So have a look before choosing your line, the shortest may not always be the fastest.
With this choice, and even with 3 persons in front of me, I was processed at 17:42, and arrived at the luggage belt to find my suitcase already there.
This is the arrival hall.


and an external view of the new terminal





November Sunday 05th 2006

Having asked at my hotel (El Oro Verde, with an excellent breakfast buffet) what shuttle I had to take for a 06:15 flight, I got the answer: "you have to be in the airport 2 hours before departure, so the 04:00 shuttle".

So did I and I arrive at the airport at 04:15.

4 check-in counters were opened for the AV flight, without any queue. So I checked-in, received my 2 boarding passes, for my window seats, and took some time to admire the brand new check-in hall.

I took this picture, where the AV counters are on the right


but was immediately told by a security staff that photos were not allowed inside the terminal. One more point for paranoia! I have difficulty imagining what are the risks of letting people take picture in public areas such as a the city side of a terminal. In any case bad guys have a lot of means to take such pictures if they want.

So I went to drink a coffee, the bought my airport tax, and passed immigration at 04:37.

At 04:40 I passed the safety check, and at 04:45 I was in the waiting area, with still very few people in sight, but fortunately, a coffee shop open.


The plane was hauled to the gate at 04:59.

An AV agent passed in the area to check and collect the boarding passes.
The crew arrived at 05:28, the first officer was a woman: while I have seen women in flight deck crew in Europe, it was my first time for a South American airline.

Flight AV 70 GYE-BOG
MD83 EI-CBY
Scheduled 06:15 – 08:00
Real 06:00 – 07:53

Boarding started at 05:50, and was very fast as, on this Sunday morning, the flight was only 25% full. The door was closed at 06:00, and pushed back at 06:02. At this early time the terminal was still not very busy:.


We took-off at 06:12 after an especially short take-off run, due to the light load of the plane.
Snack service started at 06:20, with a quite good ham and cheese sandwich.


After an uneventful journey we landed in BOG at 07:36, taxied, and stopped at 07:41 near the terminal. At 07:45 we were informed that we would have to wait (no reason given), and then immediately started to advance to the gate were we arrived at 07:46.
Then there was some more waiting, as the jetway was going back and forth, but at 07:53 we were told to exit by the back door. There a bus was waiting and drove us to a very near door of the terminal, which was closed.

Some more wait, and finally the door was opened, and I was on my way to my connecting flight.

There was a quite long line at the safety check for connecting passengers. An AV employee was going along the line, with a list of connecting passengers, checking that everything was OK.

I finally reached the security check, and then went upstairs to gate 4 for my departing flight, where I arrived at 08:13, just in time for the beginning of the boarding, at 08:14.


Flight AV 66 BOG-CCS
MD83 EI-CEP
Scheduled 08:40 – 11:28
Real 08:39 – 11:34

This time there was a nearly full load of passengers (95%), and boarding was made by seat numbers.
Everything went smoothly and boarding was finished at 08:31.

The door was closed at 08:37, we pushed back at 08:39, but waited until 08:51 before starting to taxi.

Take off was at 08:59, and at 09:19 the snack service started.


The croissant sandwich was not as good as the sandwich served on the first leg.

We started the descent at 11:07 (CCS time), just when passing over VLN, which was my final destination, but that I would reach only 5 hours later, and landed at 11:26 for a gate arrival at 11:32 and the door was opened at 11:34.

We disembarked through glass jetway, as CCS is changing its old jetways for brand new ones. Some old jetways waiting for their fate:


The immigration was fast, and at 11:42 I was waiting for my suitcase which appeared only at 11:55. There was not any indication of the belt to be used on the monitors, but as there was only on belt running everybody congregated there.

In summary another good experience on Avianca, which seems to manage well the regularity of its operation.

The only point to improve, based on the 8 flights I have now logged with AV, is the catering ex-BOG (mainly the sandwiches). It is generally inferior to the catering for inbound flights.
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:33 am

Nice report TGV as usual. VLN is my hometown airport and the last time I use it was around 12 years ago. I believe is almost the same as it used to be. I only hope someone can upgrade and build a new terminal for that airport.

It's incredible how difficult is turning to travel trough the ARC from Caracas to Valencia or the other way. In the past it use to be only 2 hours or less, now is 3 hours or more. Do you know how well is Aserca doing in their VLN-CCS route, since I believe many people is taking this flight for their international flights? People who doesn't want to miss their flight in CCS?

Thanks for sharing!
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:51 am

Quoting Erikgnoha (Reply 1):
I believe is almost the same as it used to be.

Judging by the aspect of the terminal, I think you are right.

Quoting Erikgnoha (Reply 1):
I only hope someone can upgrade and build a new terminal for that airport.

Last Friday I arrived from PZO with Avior, and 1h45 late.
While leaving, I saw, at around 100 m of the terminal, and, without details as I was driving, a new building with written on it "Domestic terminal".
Is this a new terminal ? I will look better next time I pass there.

Quoting Erikgnoha (Reply 1):
Do you know how well is Aserca doing in their VLN-CCS route, since I believe many people is taking this flight for their international flights? People who doesn't want to miss their flight in CCS?

I don't know but I can tell you I don't take them, as the couple schedule/reliability is not adequate for me.
The only time I took this Aserca CCS-VLN flight was when coming back from POS.
http://www1.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/84728
We had 1 hour 40 delay.

Now let take my next flights CCS-CDG-CCS., leaving this Saturday.
The outbound AF flight leaves CCS at 17:50.

Will I dare to take the Aserca flight leaving at 14:30 and arriving at 15:00?
With my experience of the (un)reliability of the domestic flights here, the answer is no.
But the previous flight is leaving at... 05:50.
So I will go by car, leaving at 10:00.

And coming back: the AF flight arrives at 15:05. The Aserca flight (when not late like on my above mentioned trip report) leaves at 21:00. At this time, with a car I will be home already.

I prefer flying to using a car, but really Aserca flights are not competitive in my case when considering schedules and (un)reliability.
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:45 am

Quoting TGV (Reply 2):
Will I dare to take the Aserca flight leaving at 14:30 and arriving at 15:00?
With my experience of the (un)reliability of the domestic flights here, the answer is no.

You are totally right. Domestic airlines have a lot to do when it concern to ontime performance. It's much better to take the ARC and leave 6 hours before my flight than take Aserca's flight. Although you can take the early morning departure and be sure you are going to be ontime. The only thing is that you will have to wait at CCS like 8 hours for your international flight.

Quoting TGV (Reply 2):
Is this a new terminal ? I will look better next time I pass there.

I hope it is!!!
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:34 pm

Great trip report with really nice pictures too. I'm glad there are at least one
or two trip reports about my beautiful hometown of Guayaquil, and the new terminal looks amazing!... can't wait to use it on my next flight with LAN from Miami on december.. I'll try to do a trip report and thanks for the info about the new terminal!

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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:26 am

Quoting TGV (Thread starter):
we walked to the plane. This is really a great way to board!

Isn't it just! So long as it is not raining, of course.

Very nice report and nicely illustrated too. Good to see GYE as it is now. I like the water feature.

AV will change the schedule BOG-VLN from December, when it will be 5 x weekly (no flight on Wednesday and Sunday)

I trust that it will become daily soon.
 
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:17 am

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 5):
AV will change the schedule BOG-VLN from December, when it will be 5 x weekly (no flight on Wednesday and Sunday)

I trust that it will become daily soon.

Good news!
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:49 am

Nice report, TGV.

Pretty funny how one can immediately realize GYE is managed by the same (Argentine) company than all the airports here. Those boards and screens look exactly the same than those at EZE.

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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting TGV (Thread starter):
and the door was opened at 11:34.



Quoting TGV (Thread starter):
The immigration was fast, and at 11:42 I was waiting for my suitcase

= This must be a new record or something for CCS  Smile! Great report.

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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:46 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 8):
This must be a new record or something for CCS

Since the opening of the new immigration facilities I don't think I have waited more than 15 minutes to pass immigration which is quite well organized. Furthermore as the witing is in a pleasant place with views on the runway, time does not seem so long.

The point which is sometimes still weak (depends a lot of what the staff working has in mind) is the customs.
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:27 pm

Great TR TGV! The new terminal at GYE looks great! I hope El Dorado (BOG) will be look something like that in the not too distant future.

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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:22 am

Quoting TGV (Reply 9):
Since the opening of the new immigration facilities I don't think I have waited more than 15 minutes to pass immigration which is quite well organized. Furthermore as the witing is in a pleasant place with views on the runway, time does not seem so long.

= Agreed. The new immigration is great ... except once in a while in the afternoon if too many flights arrive at the same time. I know there are discussions to ease customs.

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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:24 pm

Quoting Coal (Reply 10):
I hope El Dorado (BOG) will be look something like that in the not too distant future.

Yes, it looks nice!

But guessing for the project´s first pics, BOG will have much more glass (GYE has a lot).
 
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RE: VLN-BOG-GYE-BOG-CCS With Avianca-Photos

Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting TGV (Reply 9):
Since the opening of the new immigration facilities I don't think I have waited more than 15 minutes to pass immigration which is quite well organized. Furthermore as the witing is in a pleasant place with views on the runway, time does not seem so long.

Totally agreed. I really enjoy passing through immigration at CCS. It´s really nice. You can watch the ramp activity, and the queue is really short thanks to the improvements made.
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