triple7man
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HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:14 pm

Being retired from AA and living near Tokyo I wanted to try Japan Airlines 777's. Most of my trips are on AA 777's to and from the United States and I wrote a report on one of those trips, DFW-NRT AA 777 First Class (pics To Come Later) I love flying on the 777 (or nana nana nana in Japanese) and while this would be a short flight, I still wanted to fly a 777. DFW-NRT AA 777 First Class (pics To Come Later) (by Triple7man Jan 4 2007 in Trip Reports)
I wanted to see how a short haul flight compares and with Japan Airlines recently becoming a member of the Oneworld Alliance I wanted to try them as well.
I will start by saying that Japan Airlines and All Nippon Airways domestic flights for the most part fly out of Haneda Airport which originally served all of Tokyo. It is fairly close to downtown Tokyo and you can get there by train and monorail (JR Yamanote Line or JR Keihin Tohoku Line and Tokyo Monorail) in less than 45 minutes from downtown Tokyo. Narita, by comparison is about 40 miles from Tokyo and handles international flights. Although Korean Air and Asiana both fly from HND to Seoul Kimpo.
JAL operates out of Terminal 1, which opened in 1993 replacing the old terminal. ANA flies out of Terminal 2 which was opened in 2004.
Incidentally while waiting at Terminal 1 I saw the 747-400 used by the government and parked at the VIP terminal.
Even though I was travelling on a Oneworld pass the flights were available and I at check in I was given a boarding pass with an aisle seat, which I asked the agent if it could be changed to a window seat. She did.
Both terminals at HND have many restaurants and shops and so there is enough to keep you not from being bored.
I passed through security and took a walk through Terminal 1 as I had only been through there when returning from KIX. On those flights I had flown into KIX from DFW on AA so by then I was very tired and just wanted to get my suitcases and go home.
As you can expect the JAL terminal was filled with many JAL airplanes and I will include some pics for you now.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix012.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix013.jpg
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Here is a JAL 777-300. All of these airplanes you see are headed for domestic destinations.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix019.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix024.jpg

When you think of 747-400's what do you think of? Airplanes headed off on ultra long haul flights. Not so at HND. JAL and ANA were the only airlines to order the 747-400D which is the same airplane minus the winglets used exclusively on short haul flights.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix020.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix021.jpg

Here is a 777 with a conglomeration of other JAL aircraft in the background.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix027.jpg

Here's my 777. Notice the painting on it. Not sure what it stood for, although there was a website I could go to.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix030.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix031.jpg

When watching 777's and 747's headed off on long haul flights, you can tell by the slight bending of the wings they are heavy laden with fuel. Not so on the domestic 777's and 747's.

OK time to go. My seat was 44K which was about 3 rows from the back. JAL has 2 different configurations for their 777-200's. I got to fly on both. For the outbound flight it was configured for 3 classes of services. Seats were comfortable with a 2-5-2 configuration and each seat had a video monitor on it.
Plus being seated where I was, we were just above the aft bulk cargo door. The Japanese like to take their pets with them and I saw 3 dogs in kennels being loaded on the flight. It made me think of a 777 in which 2 cats were loaded into the aft bulk cargo compartment. See my trip report DFW-LAX-NRT with 2 cats for more info on travelling with pets. DFW-LAX-NRT With 2 Cats (by Triple7man Jun 3 2005 in Trip Reports)

We pushed back and taxied out for takeoff. One thing I like about JAL and ANA 777's is that there is a nosewheel camera in which you can watch all this and get pilots eye view. Probably about the closest you can come to riding in the cockpit now.
We took off to the east and turned north over Tokyo Bay. I had a good view of Chiba and other surrounding cities. One thing that stands out to me whenever flying in Japan is that I notice how green the countryside is. Here are a few pics as we were on decent for landing at CTS.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix037.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix038.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix039.jpg

Who's 777 is that?
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix040.jpg

Soon we landed at Sapporo's New Chitose Airport. Here are some shots deplaning.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix041.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix042.jpg

Most of the airports in Japan have open air observation decks which I always enjoy going to. There are vending machines and some of them even have restaurants overlooking the planes. I remember when I was little how much I always enjoyed going to airports like DCA, EWR and JFK. And these were in the days of the pistons, turboprops and early jets. Sadly you don't see this at airports in the US. Here are some pics of ANA and JAL 777's and 747's I took at CTS
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix043.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix044.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix052.jpg
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And here is my 777 which brought me to CTS on it's way, probably back to HND.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix047.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix048.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix050.jpg

Time to fly back to HND. Here is my 777. Notice it is in the old colors. That's OK, it's still a 777
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix053.jpg

This 777 was a different configuration than the outbound flight. This one was used only for domestic flights. It's configuration was 3-4-3, and it had 2 classes of service. Despite the dense seating I still found the seats very comfortable. I had been assigned to 45A which was by the door just behind the wing. It had lot's of legroom but because there is no window directly by the seat, it is not very good for viewing. I asked a flight attendant if I could move to an empty window seat and she let me move to 27A, which was over the wing but better for viewing. I took a picture, but she told me I could not take any pictures until after take off. What's the difference between taking pics on the ground or after takeoff? I don't get it. I did get to snap this picture before she told me not to take any more.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix054.jpg

We pushed back and had a short taxi out for takeoff. Soon we were on our way. Notice that even with a light fuel load, you can still see some flex in the wing.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix055.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix058.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix062.jpg

The service on both flights was very good. Nothing remarkable for a short flight, but I think the oriental carriers have the best service. There were drinks offered, and there was programming on the overhead monitors. Unlike the 777 on the outbound flight, there were no personal videos at each seat.
I didn't take any more pics as it was hazy and soon it was starting to get dark. On our way into HND we flew over Tokyo Bay and I could see the top of Fuji San. The approach into HND is interesting, especially if you land on 16L. The planes make a low turn to line up on final approach and it reminds me of Hong Kong Kai Tak's runway 13 IGS.

My overall experience on JAL was very good. I've never flown them on a long haul flight, but for these flights, the planes had nice interiors with comfortable seating, both ground and inflight personnel were very pleasant, and it was a nice way to spend the day.
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:17 pm

I am inexperienced at loading photos to my report so if anyone can please tell me how to get the report so the photos show immediately, instead of the links please let me know. I would appreciate it.
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:32 pm

OK, let me add the pics. Finally figured it out. Gomenasai
777's and 747's at HND
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix012.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix013.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix014.jpg

777-300
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix019.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix024.jpg

747-400D
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix020.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix021.jpg

My 777-200
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix030.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix031.jpg
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Inflight
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix037.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix038.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix039.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix040.jpg

Deplaning at CTS
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix041.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix042.jpg

ANA and JAL 777's at CTS
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix043.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix044.jpg

My 777 on it's way back to HND (?)
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix046.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix047.jpg
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http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix049.jpg

My 777 to take me back to HND
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix053.jpg

View from 27A on the ground
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix054.jpg

View inflight
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix055.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix057.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix058.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o252/triple7man/NewCoolpix062.jpg

Thank you for reading my report
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:35 pm

The painting on the side of your plane is a promotion JAL has used at least three times in the past. Those characters are the tamagochi  Smile
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:23 am

Hi Michael,

great report, thanks for sharing. I'll go on a spotting/fun flying trip to Japan in October and your report is a nice teaser!
When we planned our routing we also evaluated CTS - which is frequently served by B744Ds - but we decided to fly in the opposite direction, to sunny Okinawa which will also get us on the B744D.

Quoting Triple7man (Thread starter):
OK time to go. My seat was 44K which was about 3 rows from the back. JAL has 2 different configurations for their 777-200's. I got to fly on both. For the outbound flight it was configured for 3 classes of services. Seats were comfortable with a 2-5-2 configuration and each seat had a video monitor on it.



Quoting Triple7man (Thread starter):
This 777 was a different configuration than the outbound flight. This one was used only for domestic flights. It's configuration was 3-4-3, and it had 2 classes of service.

Your first B777 was an ex-JAS aircraft, therefore the different interior and equipment.

Quoting Triple7man (Thread starter):
Time to fly back to HND. Here is my 777. Notice it is in the old colors. That's OK, it's still a 777

When JAL introduced the B777, the birds were called after constellations (your plane is called "Procyon"), too bad the naming of planes was stopped.

Quoting Triple7man (Thread starter):
I took a picture, but she told me I could not take any pictures until after take off. What's the difference between taking pics on the ground or after takeoff? I don't get it. I did get to snap this picture before she told me not to take any more.

Surprising to hear that from a flight in a picture-friendly country. I'll make sure they won't see me using the camera during takeoff...

Quoting Triple7man (Thread starter):
The service on both flights was very good. Nothing remarkable for a short flight, but I think the oriental carriers have the best service. There were drinks offered, and there was programming on the overhead monitors.

What exactly do they offer? Do they sell food, too?


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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:57 am

Quoting Triple7man (Thread starter):
What exactly do they offer? Do they sell food, too?

They usually offer soft drinks, orange juice and on an ANA flight they offered consomme. I'm sure they have beer and other alcoholic drinks but I don't drink any of them so I don't know.

I don't think they sell food but I wasn't paying any attention. And I don't know what is offerered in Business class since I was in Economy class.

Most flights within Japan aren't longer than 2 hours, so I would not expect anything elaborate. Still for a short flight it was very nice (any flight on a 777 is very nice for me)
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:27 pm

New Chitose is a shared military base with the old Chitose airport, perhaps explaining the restriction on photography on the ground.
 
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:22 pm

I´d rather expect the reason for not being "allowed" to take photos was:

You are using a digital camera. Since it is an "electrical device" they order passengers to have it switched off during t/o and landing...
Many airlines regulations still don´t distinguish between signal emitting electrical devices and any other elctrical devices. (i don´t think a digital camera does produce any signal that would interfere with cocckpit instruments - but as long as authorities don´t care for these differences we´ll see those involved to deny the use to stay on the "safe" side)

I for myself will continue using my camera but will make sure f/a´s don´t recognize it !
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:32 pm

Really good TR. Good that you posted the pics instead of the link. Much easier.
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:43 pm

Quoting Triple7man (Thread starter):
Really good TR. Good that you posted the pics instead of the link. Much easier.

Thank you and I think I've finally learned the trick to posting the pics instead of the link.
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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:05 pm

Nice TR, photo's were great! - Remind me of my spotting trops to Tokyo.

Regards

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RE: HND-CTS-HND On Japan Airlines 777-200

Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:25 am

Loved the report, I hope on day to get to visit the wonderful country of Japan, and you report was a nice way to spend my morning.

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