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BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:11 pm

This trip arose out of a conversation with my brother about booking tickets to see Genesis, little did I realise we would travel to NYC to see them!

22.09.07 BA117 747-436 G-CIVX 30A - WTP
1ST Flight on this aircraft, 9th 747-400 Flight, 11th 747 Flight in total.
SCH DEP 08:55 SCH ARR 11:20
ACT DEP 09:09 ACT ARR 11:30

Being a Saturday and pretty early, traffic was nice and light to Heathrow, I had guessed this would be the case so had gotten up at 05:30.

Being a Silver Card holder we checked-in at the Club World area, queues here were much smaller than the World Traveller queues, the time saved would be best spent in the lounge before the flight.

Security was a pretty easy though, shoes and belt off as usual. What amazes me are the number of people who don't have a clue, the guy in front of me still had coins etc in his pockets + wanted to wear his jacket!

After security we headed straight to the BA Terraces to relax before the flight. Whilst there, I managed a couple of coffee's, small bowl of fresh berries & other fruits and a nice thick Yoghurt, very nice indeed. In addition I picked up a load of magazines and papers -- you can never have too much reading material.

My baby brother:
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Boarding would be from gate 25. Since it was a 10-15 minute walk, we headed off before boarding was called, at least I could walk off breakfast and not have to rush. Upon arrival I noted a 777 at the gate, either the plane had changed or we would be bussed this morning. My brother was hoping for an aircraft change as he had yet to fly a 777. Boarding started soon after we arrived, the load looked light based on the number of people in the gate area, could it be the 777?

On the way to the gate, a secondary screening area had been set up for random screening, I was luck enough to be selected. The agent was a pretty friendly chap and never even bothered to inspect/check me properly, he asked me to remove my shoes for inspection but once I had untied my shoe laces told me to tie them up again, I was fine to go, great screening!

We were indeed boarding by bus today
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after filling up it took us out to a remote stand, there our 747 stood, my brother was disappointed.

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I took a picture during boarding but go told off by the ground crew, photo's were prohibited they told me.
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Push back was a little later than planned, despite the gate area being quite, the plane was pretty much full, First was full, Club had a full load this morning -- even if my upgrade request made it through, it would not have worked, Economy was full too.

Push back took place 14 minutes late, we took a short taxi out to 27L for our departure.
After a short hold it was our turn to depart, wheels up at 09:25, some 30 minutes after SDT.
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Once the crew had been cleared to move, breakfast service started, despite having had a decent amount to eat in the lounge, I was still pretty hungry, I guess a fair number of beers the night before had something to do with it.

The first meal today was a choice of either, Fillet Steak brunch or Butter Chicken. I like curry but Butter Chicken is not really my thing so I chose the Fillet Steak. I must say it was darn good, really enjoyed it. I will also say the meal portion seemed bigger than my last WTP flight earlier in the year.

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Once the trays had been cleared I sat back and read my book and magazines,
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helped by a couple of glasses of Prieur Des Jacobines 2006 Bordeaux, not bad though I prefer a nice Spanish Rioja.
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The guy in front of me killed G&T!
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The rest of the flight was uneventful, though the new AVOD system was playing up, the crew reset it about 5 times during the flight as it kept crashing. I only used it for the in-flight map, but did note it was playing up. Most of the passengers in our small cabin slept.

Some 5 hours into the flight the crew came around offering juice or water, though prior to this the odd member had passed through on a regular basis to check everything was ok.

With 2 and half hours to go, the crew cam around with a pre-arrival snack, a Chicken with Green Herb Mayo roll and Apple & Blackberry Crumble cake. Both were very nice, though the crumble cake had 14 different E number in it!
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Wheels touched down at 10:30, 10 minutes behind schedule, not bad considering we actually took off some 30 minutes behind schedule. I'm not sure of the runway numbers at JFK, but our was next to BA's terminal so we were docked at the gate a few minutes later.

I must say the crew were excellent on this flight, really helpful and ready to assist if you needed anything.


Here are a few pictures of the visit including the Dolphins vs Jets at the Meadowlands.

Our hotel:-
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A duck in central park Smile
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Bought an I-Phone at the Apple store - a cool place!
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26.09.07 BA188 767-336ER G-BNWM 12K - WTP
1st Flight on this aircraft & 24th 767 Flight
SCH DEP 21:00 SCH ARR 09:15
ACT DEP 20:57 ACT ARR 08:52

After a few days in one of my favorite cities, it was time to head home. NYC is a superb place, always stuff to do and place to visit, just fantastic!

We took a cab to Newark as it was the easiest way, we allowed 1.5 hours to get there as the traffic would be bad, we were right!
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By the way, if you have the choice of travelling out of JFK or EWR, take JFK if travelling by cab, it is much cheaper!
Check-in was a breeze, again using the Club World desk as there were no queues.

The airport seemed pretty quite at this time of night, it was 7pm, plenty of flight's still to go, but it seemed to lack passengers, perhaps most were down by the gates now, perhaps our flight being a later departure meant we missed the crowds.

Security was easy and without queue's, however by the time we reached the x-ray machines, 2 people within sight of each other had checked our travel documents and passports, now the x-ray team wanted to see them too! What is this, a job creation scheme? How on earth could I have got this far without having the correct travel documents???

Having undressed and put myself back together again, well that's how it feels these days, we headed to duty free for a few bottles of Wild Turkey before hitting the lounge.

Upon arrival at the lounge it appeared there was some kind of emergency as nobody was being permitted to enter, they were awaiting the paramedics I was advised. No biggie, we hit the bar for a last decent Sam Adams, the lounge was ready about 10 minutes or so later.

1st time in this lounge, the staff were real friendly and apologised for the delayed access. The lounge itself had separate areas for First and Club passengers, not sure what the First section was like, but the Club area was pretty poor, no windows, not that impressed with the layout or selection of snacks, the sandwiches looked like they had died the day before - at least they had a decent red wine!

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Not sure what time boarding was called, I'd had a few glasses by then, but it was well timed as the lounge passengers were pretty much the last to board.

Push back occurred a few minutes early. Since it was dark outside, spotting was not an option, though I noted we taxied past a Lufthansa 346 as we made our way out to our departure runway, didn't see much else -- wheels were up at 21:28.

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WTP had 24 seats on this 767, 9 were empty, not sure about Club, Economy was almost full.

After take-off, the PTV's lit up with adverts for BA and other partners such as hotels, the sound was also piped over the aircraft speakers, I've not seen this before and must say don't like it, seems pretty cheap to have the sound of adverts over the speakers.

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Meal service started pretty much as soon a the crew had been cleared to move around the cabin, I guess they wanted to get dinner out of the way so people could sleep.

Meal choices were chicken or beef, I took the beef, was nice but nothing special, the salad starter was shrimp salad, why do that?? -- Not everyone likes those things, keep it a simple salad!

The meal portions were not as generous as the outbound flight, not sure of this is because they expected passengers to have already eaten something, a possibility though.

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AVOD was again playing up big time on this flight, I forget the number of times they re-set it. According to a chatty crew member, it only works well on 1 in 3 flights. They hope the October software upgrade will help iron out most of the issues.

I don't really use the IFE on flights, I prefer to read books, however, I would have expected BA to have thoroughly ground tested this AVOD system prior to installation throught the fleet. I realise I am commenting upon my experience from 2 flights (don't recall if the LAX flights earlier in the year had it), but from these 2 flight's, it appears a pretty poor system, hopefully the issues will be ironed out quickly.

A small breakfast was served prior to arrival, a muffin and yoghurt along with a tub of OJ.

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Wheels touched down on 27L early at 08:52 with just a short taxi to the gate -- home again!

Summary:-

Both crews were excellent, the food was just fine, though the return flight's was not as good as expected. IFE, needs work as already discussed. Of the 2 planes, the 767's WTP cabin is nicer, the 2-2-2 cabin having a more exclusive feel than the 747's 2-4-2 configuration.

All in all, another set of decent BA flight's, look forward to the next ones.

Thanks for reading, any comments are appreciated.

Regards

Mark
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Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:46 pm

Excellent and informative report, good to hear you enjoyed your flights,

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:27 pm

Very nice report.Shame you did not have a zoom for those Jets cheerleadres.  Wink
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Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:45 pm

Why did you fly back from EWR?

Did you consider using the Airtrain to/from JFK and EWR? Its fairly quick , esp if the traffics bad and cheap too.

Great report , thanks for making the effort.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
there our 747 stood, my brother was disappointed.

Why! I wish I could get the oppurtunity to fly on one. It still has eluded my log.

Great report as always, keep them coming
 
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:17 am

Great report, great pics. Glad to see you enjoyed my hometown. I actually passed the Hilton last night. What did you think of it?
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:59 am

Awesome trip report. Thoroughly enjoyed reading it. WTP on BA is awesome! Thanks for sharing.  Smile
 
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:21 pm

Excellent TR....great pics of NYC
 
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:45 pm

Nice report - l always like to see people's photos of their destination rather than lots of boring shots of aircraft..!!  wink 

I'm off to SIN and SYD next month in WTP and wondered what your thoughts were on seat width. The last time I travelled in WTP, back from NRT, I sat in the single seat at the front of the cabin. My overriding memory of this (I had spent the previous evening without sleep being entertained in Roppongi!) was that it was quite narrow because of the tray and screen being located in the sides of the seat.

So, do I plump for the single seat again (I'm travelling alone) or forfeit the unlimited legroom for a window seat further back in the cabin? Decisions decisions! Any guidance on the back of your experience would be good.

Also, a concern about AVOD, it could be a looooong 22hrs in the air.
 
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:40 pm

Hi All, thanks for reading and your comments, much appreciated.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 2):
Shame you did not have a zoom for those Jets cheerleadres.

- I think my brother did, don't think he has shown the wife though Smile

Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 3):
Why did you fly back from EWR?

- My brother wanted a 777, however it ended up a 763 after a schedule change.

Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 3):
Did you consider using the Airtrain to/from JFK and EWR? Its fairly quick , esp if the traffics bad and cheap too.

- I did think about it to EWR, but could not be bothered with the bags etc, taxi was so much easier.

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 5):
I actually passed the Hilton last night. What did you think of it?

- Not bad actually, I'd stay again. We had an executive suite so could use the lounge on the 44th floor.

Quoting Jimbo27L (Reply 8):
I'm off to SIN and SYD next month in WTP and wondered what your thoughts were on seat width. The last time I travelled in WTP, back from NRT, I sat in the single seat at the front of the cabin. My overriding memory of this (I had spent the previous evening without sleep being entertained in Roppongi!) was that it was quite narrow because of the tray and screen being located in the sides of the seat.

So, do I plump for the single seat again (I'm travelling alone) or forfeit the unlimited legroom for a window seat further back in the cabin? Decisions decisions! Any guidance on the back of your experience would be good.

- When travelling alone in WTP I take the same single front seat and would do so again, the masses of space around make it the best seat in my opinion.

Quoting Jimbo27L (Reply 8):
Also, a concern about AVOD, it could be a looooong 22hrs in the air.

- If it's playing up and your fed up reading, it could be!

Enjoy the flights, look forward to some reports.

Best Wishes

Mark
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:06 pm

Hey Mark, thanks for the great trip report.

Totally agree, if in WTP the 767 aircraft is the best! 2x2x2 seating, guaranteed AVOD (if its working!), no passing into World Chaveller to use the loo and not 70 Club and 14 first class peeps getting of the plane before you!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
After take-off, the PTV's lit up with adverts for BA and other partners such as hotels, the sound was also piped over the aircraft speakers, I've not seen this before and must say don't like it, seems pretty cheap to have the sound of adverts over the speakers.

Bit perplexed by this one though? You sure it wasn't the 'Wellbeing in the air' video we play over the speakers after take off? All about eating sensibly, drinking lots of water, doing little excercies and 'spoil youself with a quality moisturiser'? Complete with lots of chilled pix of calming lakes and mountains etc etc?

Pretty sure we don't do any 3rd party advertising at ba. The leadership team even turned down the request from marketing to put 'ba.com' on the back of the head rest covers.
 
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:46 pm

Quoting BAStew (Reply 10):
Bit perplexed by this one though? You sure it wasn't the 'Wellbeing in the air' video we play over the speakers after take off? All about eating sensibly, drinking lots of water, doing little excercies and 'spoil youself with a quality moisturiser'? Complete with lots of chilled pix of calming lakes and mountains etc etc?

- Nope, deffo some form of advertising, mainly for BA, but also a hotel chain, I found it quite odd which is why it stuck in my mind.

Glad you liked the TR.

Regards

Mark
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:56 pm

Nice pics, cant believe you were told off for taking pics getting on the plane at Heathrow - I been 'bussed' twice now and never had any problems taking photos.

Luck of the draw I suppose.
 
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:28 pm

Excellent report especially the photos.
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:53 pm

Hey, Mark,
another great story.
You told me about your planned trip last month.
It seems you´re really lucky with the wheather conditions in New York. I remember a visit in late march
with a snow storm in the morning. Time for me now to put it on my to-visit list.
When will you go for the "big-bus"?.

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Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:21 pm

Quoting Boeing764 (Reply 13):
Excellent report especially the photos.

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting Lentini2001 (Reply 12):
Nice pics, cant believe you were told off for taking pics getting on the plane at Heathrow - I been 'bussed' twice now and never had any problems taking photos.

Luck of the draw I suppose.

- I think so, I got told of for taking a picture of the tarmac once because I might get an employee in it! - Time was about 6am, not a sole in sight!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
Hey, Mark,
another great story.

- Thanks Marcus  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
It seems you´re really lucky with the wheather conditions in New York. I remember a visit in late march
with a snow storm in the morning.

- We were lucky, though is was really chucking it down on the saturday afternoon, the first purchases were umbrellas, guy on the street was selling them for $5 each, a bargin, brought mine home, sit's in the car now.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
Time for me now to put it on my to-visit list.

- I want to go back already!! - Did a days spotting at LGA, made 101 new planes  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
When will you go for the "big-bus"?.

- 17 days remain!!  Smile

Best Wishes

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Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:34 pm

Great report, outstanding pictures.
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:12 pm

Hi Mark,

Many thanks for taking the time to put together a really enjoyable trip report. I like your photos, especially the 744 nose with tug attached at LHR - you really get a feel for the size of the beast! For that reason, I always find boarding by stairs so much better than by airbridge - standing at the foot of the stairs on a windswept patch of apron with the faint hint of kerosene and aircraft roaring all around you is just magic! Can't believe you got told off for taking the pics - do you get the feeling that these rules are made up as they go along?!

Looks like you had a high-octane stay in NY. Glad you enjoyed it. Only wish I had a brother who shared an interest in aviation! Sorry he didn't get to fly on a 777; maybe next time. It's always good to be on a 767 though.

Thanks again,

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Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:48 pm

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Security was easy and without queue's, however by the time we reached the x-ray machines, 2 people within sight of each other had checked our travel documents and passports, now the x-ray team wanted to see them too! What is this, a job creation scheme? How on earth could I have got this far without having the correct travel documents???

I fell for that one too at EWR. After the 1st check I assumed that was it and placed my documents in my carry on. Beside the x ray scanner when asked for them again, I pointed to the scanner and said "they are in there".
Retaliation for messing up their system was quick, as we were duly diverted into the glass cage for a pat down search, and close inspection of our bags.
 
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Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:18 am

Excellent TR. Really good pics from NYC.

Thank you.
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Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:52 am

Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 3):
Did you consider using the Airtrain to/from JFK and EWR? Its fairly quick , esp if the traffics bad and cheap too.

I wouldn't use the subway and Airtrain with a suitcase and carry on baggage. Maybe the LIRR from Pennstation but definitely not the subway. When you are not traveling alone the cab is the cheapest way from Manhattan to JFK 45$ flat.

I was also in NY in September. The weather was just perfect but instead of seeing football I went to a New York Mets game at Shea.

Flew with SQ from FRA to JFK and back.
 
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Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:21 am

Mark,

Great TR! Glad you enjoyed your trip to the states. Im off to NYC on the 7th Nov and am already looking forward to it. I saw you bought an iphone while you were there. Im thinking of doing the same. How are you finding it on UK networks? What sim have you put in it? How are the charges? Does all the features work ok?

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:42 pm

Hi Mark!

What a great report! Nice to see a bit of comparison between JFK and EWR!
I've never been to JFK so can't judge on that.
Nice to see taxi-fares are still about the same compared to 4 years ago  Smile
Great pictures aswell, it makes me feel going back to NYC tomorrow

Thanks for sharing!
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:49 am

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
After take-off, the PTV's lit up with adverts for BA and other partners such as hotels, the sound was also piped over the aircraft speakers, I've not seen this before and must say don't like it, seems pretty cheap to have the sound of adverts over the speakers.

This is common on US Airways -- I'm not a big fan of it either, although it does make me appreciate the presence of IFE; I do a lot of my flying on AA MD-80s (which don't have IFE).

Nice report!
 
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:25 pm

Thanks for reading and all the comments left  Smile

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 18):
I fell for that one too at EWR. After the 1st check I assumed that was it and placed my documents in my carry on. Beside the x ray scanner when asked for them again, I pointed to the scanner and said "they are in there".
Retaliation for messing up their system was quick, as we were duly diverted into the glass cage for a pat down search, and close inspection of our bags.

- Yikes, I got luck then, never got the extra inspections  Smile

Quoting Caspritz78 (Reply 20):
When you are not traveling alone the cab is the cheapest way from Manhattan to JFK 45$ flat.

- Agreed, $45 is a steal.

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 21):
. I saw you bought an iphone while you were there. Im thinking of doing the same. How are you finding it on UK networks? What sim have you put in it? How are the charges? Does all the features work ok?

- I've not used mine yet as it's with my brother Sad , he unlocked them both to run on UK networks, says his works just fine, no issues at all - can't wait to get mine!! BTW, we are both on O2.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 22):
it makes me feel going back to NYC tomorrow

- Me too, and i'm not long back!

Quoting TWA757 (Reply 23):
This is common on US Airways -- I'm not a big fan of it either,

- I've flown US quite a lot in the past, i'd forgotten about it, but yes the do it.

Regards

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:42 pm

Great TR & pics! Loved the G&T picture as well as the cute duck :P
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:55 pm

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 25):
Loved the G&T picture

- I know, thought that was funny the guy just dumped the empties there.

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 25):
as well as the cute duck

- I like ducks  Smile

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:51 pm

That AVOD system is a disaster. On four consecutive BA flights I've taken between 25 August and 22 September it's not worked.

209 to MIA on 25/8 - CSD gives up after several reboots and goes to 18 channel, ditto with the 206 on the 7th; 179 to JFK on 18/9 - seat 64B jams while playing a playlist and no amount of rebooting will convince it otherwise, and 176 on 22/9 I wake up to find we're on 18 channel again. I must be cursed as even Iberia's AVOD to EZE last Tuesday wouldn't work on about 20% of seats - including mine.

I needed the BA CSD on the 246 back on Friday to sort out my seat again - first went straight to 18 channel, then more rebooting after it locked up after a PA. She said that not all cabin crew know how to trouble shoot the thing. Basically, if the handset control is still saying DL then it's still downloading from the server and you're not to touch. Apparently what creates the problems is 300 people in WT jabbing their fingers making selections before the system has finished downloading and the 3 servers the data is stored on just can't cope.

I gather BA chose the cheapest possible system as a stop-gap before a wireless system is available (and to see out some of the 744s). She also said that BA has created enough of a stink with Rockwell Collins that they have sent 10 engineers over to sort it out. I won't hold my breath.
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:55 pm

Quoting Steve6666 (Reply 27):
gather BA chose the cheapest possible system as a stop-gap before a wireless system is available

- I have heard that too, I also hear the new CW Seats don't fit the 772's well, hence none have been fitted out yet.

Rgds

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:37 pm

Nice report! Great pics of NYC too!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
After security we headed straight to the BA Terraces to relax before the flight

Don't you prefer the Gate 1 lounge? Much less busy than the Lounge Pavilion one, and not that much difference in walk if going from the Victor gates.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
even if my upgrade request made it through

What kind of upgrade request was this? Please don't say I've been missing a trick for the last few years  Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I took a picture during boarding but go told off by the ground crew, photo's were prohibited they told me.

Jobsworth alert  Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The guy in front of me killed G&T!

Bloomin' heck! I've been known to plough down a few glasses of wine and fizzy in my time but that looks impressive.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Here are a few pictures of the visit including the Dolphins vs Jets at the Meadowlands.

Our hotel:-

Coincidence...Hilton invited me to come and stay at their new 'Grand Vacations Club' condos (read timeshares  Wink) at that location earlier in the week.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
After take-off, the PTV's lit up with adverts for BA and other partners such as hotels, the sound was also piped over the aircraft speakers, I've not seen this before and must say don't like it, seems pretty cheap to have the sound of adverts over the speakers.

Now that is cheap.  thumbsdown  US Airways did that on a flight last month, THREE times on SFO-PIT for their Dividend Miles credit card plus infomercial type things later on in the flight. It really is naff!
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:47 pm

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 29):
Nice report! Great pics of NYC too!

- Always a pleasure to have you read and comment on TRs  Smile

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 29):
Don't you prefer the Gate 1 lounge? Much less busy than the Lounge Pavilion one, and not that much difference in walk if going from the Victor gates

- I do, but chose this lounge for some reason, should have gon to the Gate 1 lounge though, they have Bacon butties Smile

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 29):
What kind of upgrade request was this? Please don't say I've been missing a trick for the last few years

- No, I've a friend who was a BA terminal manager, he was on holiday when I flew  Sad

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 29):
Jobsworth alert

- I know, these people really annoy me!

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 29):
Bloomin' heck! I've been known to plough down a few glasses of wine and fizzy in my time but that looks impressive

- Tell me! - I was doing well on y Red Wine, but this guy was way ahead of me  Sad

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 29):
Coincidence...Hilton invited me to come and stay at their new 'Grand Vacations Club' condos (read timeshares ) at that location earlier in the week.

- Amazing, such a small world.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 29):
Now that is cheap. US Airways did that on a flight last month, THREE times on SFO-PIT for their Dividend Miles credit card plus infomercial type things later on in the flight. It really is naff!

- 3 times is a bit much, once is fine.

Regards

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:38 pm

Hi there , very nice TR and pics. NYC is indeed one of the best cities to go to. As you say always something to see and do.

WTP looks pretty nice also and decent legroom.

Thanks for sharing

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:43 am

Great TR! I will be flying WTP SFO-LHR in Dec. Hopefully they will have the IFE sorted by then!
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:37 am

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
don't really use the IFE on flights, I prefer to read books, however, I would have expected BA to have thoroughly ground tested this AVOD system prior to installation throught the fleet.

It's really hard to get rid of the bugs of those AVOD systems as when you test them on the ground they work perfectly fine and suddenly when airboren the systems go crazy. So most airlines need many months until the major issues were solved to allow a smooth operation.
 
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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:26 pm

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 33):
It's really hard to get rid of the bugs of those AVOD systems as when you test them on the ground they work perfectly fine and suddenly when airboren the systems go crazy. So most airlines need many months until the major issues were solved to allow a smooth operation.

- Or on the case of EY's 345's, years!

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:34 am

Simply amazing! I can't even tell you in words! The pictures are superb! How is WTP? From one of your pics, it still looks a bit cramped. Hate to imagine the space in WT. Thanks for sharing them!
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Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:13 am



Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 35):
Simply amazing! I can't even tell you in words! The pictures are superb! How is WTP? From one of your pics, it still looks a bit cramped. Hate to imagine the space in WT. Thanks for sharing them!

- Glad you enjoyed the TR  Smile

WTP is a fine product though could be improved to increase the difference from regular WT. The main differences are the increased legroom and the reduced number of seats in the cabin, it's like having a small private cabin, very nice. Food/service is the same as WT but you get the food first so you should always get your choice.

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:20 am

Mark,
just bumped in to this report. I read it with pleasure. Good pics too!
NY is on our to do 'citytrip' list, maybe in 2008... but Hongkong is also in the race  Smile We'll see!

Thanks for putting it all together,

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:12 pm

Awesome report, Mark, great to read and with top pictures, thanks for posting!

BA's WTP Class looks pretty good and I saw on their website that the WTP fares are not too expensive. I will definitely consider BA when I'm booking my next long-haul flight.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The guy in front of me killed G&T!

 rotfl 

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Here are a few pictures of the visit including the Dolphins vs Jets at the Meadowlands.

Did you guys buy the tickets for the game in advance or directly at the stadium?

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:24 pm

Hi Folks, thanks for the reads and comments.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 37):
just bumped in to this report. I read it with pleasure. Good pics too!
NY is on our to do 'citytrip' list, maybe in 2008... but Hongkong is also in the race We'll see!

Thanks for putting it all together,

Eric

- Thanks Eric, glad you enjoyed the TR & pix. NYC is superb, always a great place to visit year round, so is Hong Kong - which ever you choose, you'll enjoy!

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 38):
Awesome report, Mark, great to read and with top pictures, thanks for posting!

- Thanks Patrick Smile

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 38):
BA's WTP Class looks pretty good and I saw on their website that the WTP fares are not too expensive. I will definitely consider BA when I'm booking my next long-haul flight.

-WTP is great, the meals/service is the same as Y, however the extra space is worth the extra cash, at least IMHO.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 38):
Did you guys buy the tickets for the game in advance or directly at the stadium?

- Bought these in advance, game was superb though my team lost  Sad

Best Wishes

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RE: BA WTP: LHR-JFK, EWR-LHR

Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:05 am

Hey Mark:

Would you ever fly out of EWR again or is it all JFK for you? I guess BA's 767s aren't as bad as everyone says to be!
 
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Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:23 am



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 40):
Would you ever fly out of EWR again or is it all JFK for you?

- I'd use EWR again, don't really have a problem with it, though my next 2 booked flights to NYC are both into JFK wich BA.

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 40):
I guess BA's 767s aren't as bad as everyone says to be!

- The Europe fleet is a bit tired bur overall, I've no issue flying on them, especially in the WTP cabin on the longhul fleet, it's quite decent.

Thanks for reading.

Rgds

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