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St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:20 pm

Trip Report: Britannia Airways (Thomsonfly) Flight BY154A/B: Vieux Fort - Hewanorra, St Lucia (UVF/TLPL) To Manchester International (MAN/EGCC) Via Bridgetown (Christ Church) - Grantley Adams (Seawell) International, Barbados (BGI/TBPB). Sunday 27th March 2005.

Flight Details:
Date: Sunday 27th March 2005
Departure Airport: Vieux Fort - Hewanorra, St Lucia (UVF/TLPL)
Airline: Thomsonfly (Britannia Airways)
Flight: BY154A/B
Equipment: Boeing 767-304ER
Registration: G-OBYF
Destination Airport: Manchester International (MAN/EGCC)
Via: Bridgetown (Christ Church) - Grantley Adams (Seawell) International (BGI/TBPB)
Seat: 44E (centre isle, UVF-BGI) and 5A (window BGI-MAN)
Scheduled Departure: Hewanorra: 1530, Barbados: 1730
Actual Departure: Hewanorra: 1530, Barbados: 1730
Flight Time: Approx 30 mins UVF-BGI, Approx 7.75hrs BGI-MAN
Scheduled Arrival: 0640
Actual Arrival: 0626

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After 2 perfect weeks on the tropical paradise of St Lucia, I received a letter from the Thomson representative at the hotel I was staying at in Rodney Bay, St Lucia (Papillion by Rex) to say our taxi for the 1.5 hour transfer to the airport was booked for 1130. We were at the front of the hotel for about 1115 and the taxi arrived at 1130 promptly. Because of the topography of St Lucia, coaches aren’t used because of the steep gradients involved; smaller 9 seat mini-buses are used instead. On the way to the airport, one of the roundabouts had a miniature Virgin tail in the middle as a centrepiece, I hope it hasn’t fallen off one of their 744’s!



We arrived at the Hewanorra Airport at just after 1300, in good time for our flight as it was scheduled to leave until 1530.



There were several other flights checking in at the same time, an American Airways flight to Chicago and a US Airways flight to Philadelphia. Even with three flights checking in at once, the queues soon diminished apart from the AA flight who’s security procedure were very stringent with every single suitcase and piece of hand baggage being searched by airport security by hand. This is presumably an AA security procedure following 9/11 as other flights, including the US Airways did not have this level of security. The check in procedure was slightly more complex than normal because the flight had two destinations, Barbados and Manchester. The check in personnel had a seat planner with stickers of available seats which must have been forwarded from Manchester once the outbound flight had departed detailing who was disembarking in St Lucia and who was staying on the flight for Barbados. We also had to pay our EC$54 departure tax ($21 US) at check in which was attached to our boarding cards. The receipt gave us access through security. I was allocated seat 5A, a window seat at the front of the aircraft.





Once checked in, we had to leave the check in area and walk around the corner to security control. Their, our boarding cards and departure payments were stamped and we were allowed to enter the immigration area. A word of warning to all smokers: have a smoke (or several) before entering the terminal building as there is a strict no smoking policy enforced. We looked all over the place and couldn’t find anywhere in the terminal were smoking was permitted. Once our passports had been stamped, we proceeded through security and as usual, I was stopped and had my camera equipment searched (I get stopped at every airport because my marine camera housing doesn’t allow x-rays through it!). Once through security, we entered the departure lounge that was just about adequate for the number of flights at the time. A USA3000 flight was just boarding which eased some of the congestion.





The PA system announced that Britannia BY154A from Manchester had just landed. I looked out of the window and to my surprise, saw a Thomsonfly Boeing 767-304ER (G-OBYF) taxi past the terminal. Our outbound flight, BY154A had been on a Britannia Boeing 767-204/ER (G-BYAB)which had been operating this flight for at least the last 2 months. They must have started the re-brand during our stay.


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Our flight was called for boarding at 1500. The aircraft had been positioned on a remote stand a little way from the terminal building that gave me the opportunity to take a few photo’s as we walked down the apron. After taking 4 or 5 shots, I was approached by one of the security staff who told me very firmly that if I didn’t stop taking photo’s, I’d be arrested! At that point I put the camera away and boarded the aircraft via the front steps.

US Airways A320 in Star Alliance colours:



Private Beechcraft C90 King Air:



Once on board, there was a bit of a problem. Passengers bound for Barbados occupied our allocated seats. There had been a mistake with seat allocation somewhere along the lines. We were told that we had to stand in the toilet area (not actually in the toilet!) until all passengers had boarded and they’d see what seats were available.

Once everyone had been seated, there was a block of 5 seats, as we had booked, on rows 44 and 45 towards the back of the aircraft. The fact they were at the back wasn’t a big deal, but we had paid to have 2 pre-booked window seats and because of this problem, we didn’t have any. I wasn’t very happy about this but there was nothing the cabin crew could do, it wasn’t their fault and it was only for 30 minutes. They assured us that the problem would be rectified once in Barbados. I was disappointed not to have a window seat because I now couldn’t film the take off and landing so sorry about that!

Although the standard seat pitch on Britannia / Thomsonfly’s 767’s is only 30” (and no premium section on this aircraft, 328 economy seats), the seat actually felt ok for a short flight, but I wouldn’t like to be stuck in the centre seats for a trans-atlantic flight. There was enought room underneath the seat in front to stretch out your legs, unlike some other aircraft I’ve flown on but it was a little tight with my knees only having an inch or so gap from the seat in front.

We taxied out to the runway bang on schedule. The take off was routine, very smooth. We climbed to 15,000ft. Just as we levelled out, it was time to start our descent in to Barbados. This has to be the shortest flight I’ve ever been on! Again the descent in to Barbados was routine, although a little bumpier due to a slight crosswind and a little heavy on touchdown, a positive ‘thud’. That’s normal for a 767! Once in Barbados, all passengers disembarked the aircraft. Those staying in Barbados proceeded to the arrivals area, those in transit including ourselves were given transit cards and headed for the departure lounge.



Grantly Adams airport is being extended and refurbished so there were quite a few areas closed or in a bit of a state. The departure lounge was very limited for space and seats were scarce. That didn’t bother me as I had a walk up and down the departure lounge looking at the various aircraft being prepared for their flights. These included a Virgin 747-443, ‘Hotlips’ (G-VLIP), British Airways 777-236 (G-VIIC) with its huge GE90’s, an Air Canada A320, American Airways 757-200 and various smaller aircraft. The duty free shopping was limited to a couple of shops selling the usual tobacco and alcohol and a small food outlet with a very long queue.





A word of warning to all smokers: Grantly Adams has a strict no smoking policy enforced. We looked all over the place and couldn’t find anywhere in the terminal where smoking was permitted. No smoking lounges, smoking areas, nothing. I suspect the only areas where smoking may be permitted are the VIP lounges. If you ever travel through this airport, make sure you have a smoke (or several) before entering the airport.

Once our aircraft had been refuelled, cleaned and a new set of crew, we were called for boarding at about 1700. We only spent about 1 hour in the departure lounge. We left the airport from gate 16 and had a 2 minute walk to the aircraft. This took us past Concorde (G-BOAE) that was sitting just off the apron on a stand that is being constructed to show off this fantastic aircraft.



We boarded the aircraft from the front and took the seats that were allocated in St Lucia (5A). They must have sorted the seat allocation problem. I was very happy because it meant I had my window seat! Doors were close right on time and we taxied out to runway 09 behind the BA 772 heading for Heathrow. I had a great view of the runway as we taxied, seeing a DHC-8 landing and taking off, the Virgin 744 roaring down the runway, then the full take off roll of the BA 772, all captured on video! Our turn came and we turned on to the runway after the BA 772 had departed. The CF6’s spooled and we accelerated down the runway. We rotated in front of the terminal building, which gave us a great view of the airport and Concorde. We were soon over the Atlantic and turned left on a northeast heading for a direct flight back to Manchester. The sun soon set over the horizon and my last view of the Caribbean turned to pitch black.


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The bar service commenced about 30 minutes after take off followed shortly by our hot meal. Once again it was roast chicken served with roast potatoes, carrots and broccoli, a prawn salad and a lemon crumble for desert. The chicken was a little dry but apart from that, the food quality was high. The best part of the meal was a good old cup of English tea! You always know you are home bound when you get a cup of PG Tips!



The entertainment started after our meal but due to my seat being only 2 rows from the ceiling mounted screens, I had to look upwards all the time which gave me neck ache after a while. I wasn’t too interested in the animated film anyway (The Incredibles) so elected to listen to the 10 radio stations instead. As it was an overnight flight, I was planning on getting a bit of sleep anyway.



The usual duty free services were done then the lights dimmed for the middle part of the flight. The captain must have been a little bored up front because he had a brew and a chat with the flight attendants on a couple of occasions during the night. About an hour before our scheduled landing, the lights were turned back on and an announcement made that a cold breakfast was to be served. I was hoping for a good old English breakfast but no such luck! Instead, we were given a selection of fruit, a yoghurt, a muffin and fresh orange juice which was quite nice and I suppose is the healthy option.



We then started our descent in to Manchester through thick clouds and landed on 06R. It was a little bumpy in places but nothing out of the ordinary and was actually a very smooth touchdown, much gentler than in Barbados. For some reason, the cabin lights weren’t dimmed for landing which is the normal procedure. Because of this, the video of the landing was obscured by lots of glare from the window, which ruined it. Sorry about that! As it was only 0630 in the morning, no thrust reverse was used for noise abatement reasons and we rolled right to the end of 06R. We taxied across 06L were a couple of aircraft were waiting to take off. The outside temperature was 7 degrees, quite warm for this time of year but a bit of a comedown from the mid 30’s we’d experienced over the last couple of weeks in St Lucia. We taxied on to stand 203 and disembarked the aircraft 15 minutes in front of schedule. Baggage collection was very quick by Manchester’s usual standards and we soon cleared security, as we were the only flight.



Overall, I was very impressed with Britannia’s punctuality. They kept to the schedule accurately. Food quality was good and the drinks prices reasonable (expensive!) as any other charter airline. Apart from the seat allocation problem experienced between St Lucia and Barbados, the flights were uneventful. The aircraft were clean and tidy and the legroom average considering the mean 30” seat pitch. I’d have no problem in flying with Britannia (Thomsonfly) again although I must admit I would probably choose My Travel or Thomas Cook for long haul service over Britannia. This is no reflection on their service, more the aircraft they use. I prefer the more modern facilities of MYT’s and TCX’s Airbus A332’s provide, especially MYT’s A332 with the flight cameras and downstairs toilet areas (remember this was originally written in 2005, things have moved on!).

If anyone has any questions about this flight or comments on the report, let me know. This is the link to my outbound trip report with photo’s and videos:
BY154A: MAN - UVF March 2005. Long With Pics & Vid (by Dazbo5 Jul 21 2006 in Trip Reports)

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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:16 pm

Nice report; I'm off to the Caribbean (BGI) in March; can't wait. Flying BD we think.

I like the photo of you stood next to a 'no photogaphs allowed' sign!
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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:24 pm



Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Nice report; I'm off to the Caribbean (BGI) in March; can't wait. Flying BD we think.

If from the London area, go with BA or VS!!!!
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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:34 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
If from the London area, go with BA or VS!!!!

We aren't; though we are happy to drive down to LGW if the price is right.

EDIT: Though the problem with VS is that they are shifting BGI ops from LHR to LGW in the middle of when we go, so we'd have to fly out of LHR and back into LGW which is far from ideal.

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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:15 am



Quoting Dazbo5 (Thread starter):
The captain must have been a little bored up front because he had a brew and a chat with the flight attendants on a couple of occasions during the night.

I am sorry...i am not very familiar with British slang i suppose...

can you clarify the "brew" part? is that tea?
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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:31 am



Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
I like the photo of you stood next to a 'no photogaphs allowed' sign!

That just had to be done!! Along with security walking past as well. There's signs all over BGI saying 'No photography'. I was never asked not to though. I think that's more because of the celebs that go through than aircraft.

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Flying BD we think

5 weeks on friday I'll be flying MAN-ANU with them so I'll report back!

Quoting AirPortugal310 (Reply 4):
can you clarify the "brew" part? is that tea?

Sorry, yes, cup of tea!

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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:39 pm



Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 5):
Sorry, yes, cup of tea!

Awesome guy, not that i care if it was the other way around. im not one to care about alot of thing..


awesome pics thank you
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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:26 am



Quoting Dazbo5 (Thread starter):
Trip Report: Britannia Airways (Thomsonfly) Flight BY154A/B: Vieux Fort - Hewanorra, St Lucia (UVF/TLPL)

OMG - i've wondered for years where the VF in 'UVF' comes from, ever since family hols there in '87 - thanks for solving that one, mate!
 
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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:39 pm

Great trip report but what's with the photos? I get only messages saying "Bandwidth exceeded". Is this a problem with the pictures then?

I have not been to UVF for 20 years. I was in BGI in November and am currently working on my trip report. Construction work is still on although the terminal is expanded and quite lovely overall. I have noticed the "no photography" signs in BGI but only in the arrivals hall (sensitive area of course for security reasons) but there aren't any in the departures lounge. All the same the Islands seem to be getting so edgy about pictures- a threat to be arrested in UVF!

BA flights to BGI are all to/from LGW. You were lucky to get off in-transit in BGI, I have not had that joy in recent years. Gone were the days when BW in particular allowed passengers to disembark at intermediate stops and visit the terminals - in fact in 1999 I was able to do so both in BGI and ANU on my way from POS to KIN and thus this was the only time that I have set foot in 4 countries in 1 day! Then again, your flight appears to have terminated in BGI and so was fully prepared for the return journey there.

Thanks for the report Dazbo5.

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RE: St Lucia-Manchester Via Barbados, March 2005

Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:21 pm



Quoting Trintocan (Reply 8):
Great trip report but what's with the photos? I get only messages saying "Bandwidth exceeded". Is this a problem with the pictures then?

Sorry about that. My photobucket 25Gb / month bandwidth limit has been exceeded so you can't see them at the moment. At the end of the month, they'll be back. My trip reports seem to be popular so the limits for the last month were exceeded.

Quoting Trintocan (Reply 8):
I have noticed the "no photography" signs in BGI but only in the arrivals hall (sensitive area of course for security reasons) but there aren't any in the departures lounge.

This report is from March 2005. There were notices all over the departure lounge with no photography back then. They may have been removed since but they were definately there.

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