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As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:31 pm

Date: Feb 3, 2008
Route: Hong Kong-Los Angeles
Airline: Cathay Pacific
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400
Registration: B-HUA


Long-haul Economy Class travel: long revered among business and leisure travellers the world over. The symbol of capitalist extravagance and indulgent luxury. The perfect time for quiet and poignant contemplation.

Yes, we all look forward to it like we do a serious bout of Gonorrhea. Yet too many of us face a crippling mental dilemma in evaluating whether we should cop the abominable discomfort like a true champion of the masses, or whether we should indulge in an investment in our already inflated egos by upgrading to the more dignified surrounds of Business or First Class. Unfortunately the bean counter got the better of me when planning for this trip. Economy Class was victorious.

I don't usually write trip reports to detail my travels, largely because I too regularly find air travel a mundane chore. Whereas I used to pay close attention to detail in my nascent youth, cynicism has embraced me in all its glory. Upon boarding, usually I will either go straight to sleep or I will be too busy typing on my laptop to note the important elements required for a trip report on this fine, albeit freakishly peculiar forum to which I vigorously deny any membership of.

I decided to write this report six hours into the flight from Hong Kong to Los Angeles as I became increasingly bedazzled by the absolute disgrace of this cabin crew to the point where it actually became comical. Please therefore excuse the less detailed descriptions of the first half of the flight for I was neither particularly interested nor engaged. Moreover, my attempts at photography within the darkened cabin are so embarrassingly shameful that I can only apologise profusely. Alas I shall continue!

Check-in @ Kowloon
We decided to get smart with check-in by doing it at the HKIA Express Terminal in Kowloon. What a smart decision.. We went straight to the front of the queue which was great as we managed to get checked in within five minutes flat. An impressively seamless start to the trip%u2014how very refreshing.

Arriving at HKIA
Upon arriving at HKIA, I was again reminded why the airport has many fans. Though it is as aesthetically inspiring as a water cracker with its rather dreary grey marble slabs in each and every direction, it is at least filled with light: huge windows and impressively high ceilings (take note on the latter Changi Airport) go a considerable way in providing a feeling of spaciousness that helps one forget that there are, at any given time, several thousand sheep competing for limited infrastructural resources.

Unfortunately my positive comments will take the back foot from there. Passport control and security screening simply weren't up to scratch and they clearly did not acknowledge that I, yes I, was travelling. I was offered nothing in the way of a personal escort and nor was I even offered a separate line free from the other peasants who surrounded me with their incessant coughing, spluttering and shrieking akin to a drowning seal. And to think this nonsense was conducted in some dreadful regional Asian dialect. I think some people refer to it as Chinese. Must be spoken by those people in China. Alas I digress.

Boarding
Upon reaching the boarding gate, the board showed departure had been moved from 1620 to 1645. May I remind you this was not a delay. It was merely a shifted time in the scheduled departure. Not a huge problem of course as it gave me time to send emails to my seven wives and send messages of encouragement to my nineteen illegitimate, though not illegal, children.

Having communicated with them, I decided to board. In most airports worldwide, this is a relatively painless experience. However, Hong Kong is unique, challenging the limitations of conventional wisdom. Hong Kong likes to conduct its additional security screening for US flights within the aerobridge itself, I assume because of the great depth of space available. With almost 300 people trying to cram into the aerobridge, the ambience was sensual. The wide variety of individual body fragrances was inspiring to say the least, demonstrating a truly international flair. Tempted to reach for a nose plug I resisted, for I knew I would then become the subject of much bitter jealousy from my fellow travellers. I decided I should refrain for their collective benefit.

Upon arriving at the second door (who ever knew it existed?) I was welcomed aboard warmly by the Filipino in-flight services manager. A woman with evident flair and enthusiasm, my initial impression was that this would be a good crew. Alas optimism nearly always proves to be the chief symptom of the misguided. I once again proved myself to be a misguided idealist lacking the enviable quality of pragmatism by jumping to unfounded conclusions.

Having travelled a whole five rows, I was confronted by an Indian woman of mammoth proportions blocking the aisle. At first I was concerned that the poor woman had become stuck between the two seats. I gestured to help her as only a true gentleman would. I contemplated using some serious physical force to release her, but it became apparent that she was instead undressing, having obviously realised that her grandiose attire would likely be damaged by the low grade quality of the seat fabric. I waited a whole four minutes before she kindly finished the process, after which she abused me for not doing anything to assist her, naturally in Tamil. If she weighed 300 pounds less and was a little more beautiful, perhaps I would have been more inclined to assist her but in this instance, I was more worried my hands would be absorbed by her Bangalore-Bermuda Triangle.

The Coveted Seat 66D (D is for DOOM)
Upon reaching seat 66D, which might well have been 660D, I was reminded of why I don't care much for Economy Class and try my best to avoid it. Sitting down, my knees were wedged into the metal wire of the seat pocket. Why can they not use some elastic fastener that negates the need to have a metal wire wedged into one's knee? Forget suicide by slitting your wrists, this is far more painful. The Captain, a fine British chap who possessed all the qualities of one of His Majesty's subjects, welcomed us aboard with characteristic Queen's English suggesting an arrival into Los Angeles approximately 15 minutes ahead of our scheduled time. I was later to realise this was a complete and utter fabrication. How dare he.

Pushback
Push back came at 4.50 and we were airborne about 15 minutes later after a very long take-off roll. We climbed through about 30,000 feet before the cabin crew sprang into life as "flight attendants." The seatbelt sign remained illuminated during the period.

Discharging the Cabin Crew from their Fasteners
The drinks service began from the back which worked well for me. A junior flight attendant by the name of Joyce, a drag queen in disguise judging by her questionable selection of makeup, asked what I would like to drink. I replied "anything alcoholic to numb the pain please", politely of course. She responded quickly and curtly "well I have white or red wine. Which is it?" Hmm. "A can of coke thank you, oh and may I have an extra packet of nuts please?" Though I do freely admit I am greedy, and shamelessly so, Joyce clearly did not see this as an endearing quality. No doubt more troubled by the welfare of fellow passengers and perhaps the prospect of me ballooning, she replied "NO! CANNOT! I run out!" She moved on. I didn't, however.

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Dinner
Menus were distributed and we were asked to share one between two or three as there weren%u2019t enough. Five star indeed. When the main meal selection came around, I decided I would ask dear Joyce for her meal recommendation. Her response was characteristically brusque, replying "how would I know? I don't take lamb" I sensed that dear Joyce was implying that the fish was better than the lamb so I chose it seeing as she seemed like a shrewd no-nonsense woman. Alas it had the consistency of her temperament: as tough and as tasty as a pre-used condom. Upon her return to collect the meal trays, I asked her colleague whether I could have a second meal. Expecting a "Sure sir!" or perhaps "I'll have a look and see if we have any left" type of comment, I was flabbergasted to receive the response of "NO! No more! Must have nuts! Yes, Nuts!" as she threw two packets of the previously elusive nuts onto my tray table. Obviously the embargo on nuts had since been lifted following my earlier request. Gourmet cuisine indeed. This is the life.

The Great Quest for Comfort
Having completed my two packets of deliciously superlative nuts, I attempted to try and catch some shut eye. Attempting to do so with a 6'2 stature is not particularly easy and I had great difficulty achieving any mild degree of success. Being two rows from the rear toilets was not particularly helpful as there always seemed to be a congregation in the queue right beside my seat. In some ways I started to sympathise with zoo animals as it was precisely how I felt, constantly being watched. I wouldn't make a good celebrity.

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That said, I did manage to close my eyes for about two hours which was greatly appreciated, though I did awaken to feel as if I had been hit across the back of my neck with a potent magnesium hammer and a throat as dry as Prince Philip%u2019s humour. As I motioned for the service button, I noticed no fewer than 23 service lamps illuminated. Now mathematics is hardly my most ardent academic talent, yet I had the common sense to realise with some degree of rapidity that my chances of attaining service were limited. Instead, I was to embark on a courageous expedition to the galley, aiming to return to my luxurious seat with tidings of comfort and joy in the form of an apple juice.

Arriving at the forward galley, I was met with three startled faces. The reaction of two of the crew was to turn their back to me and pretend they were busy. The third, evidently a little slower and unfortunately not quite so intelligent, could not conjure an adequate alternative and instead stuttered "Yes, you need something?" I replied that I would like an apple juice and she directed me to the starboard side of the galley to the self-service refreshment centre where they had a fairly decent selection of soft drinks, juices, biscuits, chocolate bars and ham and mustard rolls. Unwilling to immediately return to my seat, I lingered a bit, looking out the door window to the dreary sight of the darkened Pacific Ocean until one of the male attendants made it clear I was being a nuisance and strongly encouraged that I return. Faced with the possibility of this delightfully vile attendant%u2019s threat of murder for invading his quarters, I decided it to be in my best interests to return with a degree of urgency, only to continue dozing to the distressing sight of the many thousands of miles to go before arriving in Los Angeles.

In-flight Entertainment
Cathay Pacific is fairly slow with its take up of innovations and this 747-400 was not yet fitted with the new generation in-flight entertainment system replete with AVOD. The system is very basic indeed, using a stripped-out version of Matsushita 2000 without the proper handset and with a much reduced functionality compared with even SIA's oldest system. My system was defective today with only half the channels working and the majority of those functioning without sound. I alerted the flight attendant to the irritating problem but she made it clear to me it wasn't her fault and that she didn't have almighty powers to do anything about it. Unwilling to fight, I just accepted that I would have no functioning entertainment system.

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Continued Despair
A couple of hours later, I decided I would attempt to use the forward lavatory. I walked to the front of the cabin to see the unfortunate sight of the crew emerging from the galley with their drinks cart. My worst suspicions were realised: they were about to begin a drinks service as they swung the trolley into the aisle. As I approached, I thought there would surely be no problem for me to simply pass by and use the restroom considering they had not yet commenced serving. Alas not.

Instead I was faced by a union picket line that only dearest Maggie Thatcher could disband. Rather than gently moving to the side before beginning the service, this delightful crew instead decided to stare at me and just continued to edge towards me, completely ignoring my presence. Now I know I am very good looking and possess a rare charm that is completely irresistible, but this did not impress me in any way whatsoever. The only thing missing from the venue were the placards of government and bourgeoisie-focussed abuse to accompany these fat, beer-gutted unionists. Instead, the accompaniment was mere silence. They just stared at me and I finally relented: obviously they were not going to allow me to use the washroom so I decided to cut my losses and return to my seat. Perhaps in future Economy Class passengers should just be fitted with a catheter. It really would be far more dignified and save the gymnastics of manoeuvring out of those appalling seats.

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The Toilets
Upon finally reaching the toilet only moments before a messy accident, I was met with an absolutely disgusting washroom. What was more alarming was that it was one of the flight attendants who exited it immediately before me. Though I wouldn't be quite so awful as to blame him for the mess, surely one person cannot physically make such a mess single-handedly, I would like to ask why he left it as such, particularly when he saw me queuing to use it as he emerged.

Breakfast
Dearest Joyce was back. I had missed her while she was away in the crew bunks resting her acidic tongue for another round of abuse. I cheerfully greeted her and she very almost smiled. Unfortunately her facial muscles couldn%u2019t quite muster the strength and she returned to her neutral scowl, asking whether I would be having the omelette or the seafood noodles. Feeling a little oriental after my dalliance in Hong Kong, I decided on the seafood noodles and they actually weren't all that bad. If anything aboard this flight was to stand out as a highlight, these greasy, oily noodles would do the trick. The excitement of finding something satisfactory was immensely satisfying.

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Descent
About 50 minutes before arrival, Her Maj's man came over the PA to announce our descent into Los Angeles and continued his trail of deceit about our estimated time of arrival, which he suggested would be approximately 12.24pm. Descent was a very rough affair indeed and we seemed to circle forever, exceeding our estimated arrival time by about 15 minutes. We made a very fast, rough approach and touched down smoothly at just after 12.40pm. No reverse thrust used and we exited the taxiway to make our way to Tom Bradley.

Arrival
Cathay Pacific, in line with other Oneworld partners who operate selected codeshares on behalf of American Airlines, park at the Tom Bradley International Terminal but disembark through Terminal 4. Terminal 4, for those of you who have not been fortunate enough to visit, is an abomination like no other. Having left the aerobridge, there were teams of ground staff screaming at the top of their lungs at Cathay passengers, telling them where to go and how to change terminals via the war-time war trenches. No microphones, just screaming. I was just waiting to hear the sound of bullets to round of this authentically modest experience. Joined the non-citizen US immigration queue where we remained for 1 hr 25 minutes, by which time our United Airlines connecting flight had long since departed. And to think that it was only our singular flight being handled. What an unmitigated disgrace. A shameful exhibition of airport inefficiency indeed.

Verdict
Judging by the report above, it is glaringly obvious that this was an excellent flight. It was so excellently vile that it was actually quite impressive, chiefly because of the consistency with which Cathay Pacific was able to deliver.

Every element of the flight was utterly appalling. I have never witnessed a lazier cabin crew complement in my life. Their dismal attitude, coupled by a delayed departure, the aging 747, woefully inadequate seats, defective (antiquated) in-flight entertainment, inedible food, a late arrival and completely incompetent ground handling upon arrival made this the worst flight I have ever experienced. I can categorically say that my subsequent flights on United Airlines and US Airways were vastly superior and that should go a long way in proving to you Cathay loyalists how bad the airline has come.

The fact that we arrived is indeed the only strong point of the experience. Obviously for that I shall be eternally grateful. Once again I shall say that I%u2019ll never fly long-haul in Economy but this time I think I mean it, though it's always a little more tolerable aboard my beloved Singapore Airlines or even my national carrier, Qantas.

One thing I will say categorically is that this is the last time I will ever fly Cathay long-haul, regardless of price.

Check-in 8
Outbound Ground Handling 6
Boarding 3
Service 1
In-flight Entertainment 2
Seat 3
Food 5
Arrival 3

= 31/80
= 38%

Oops!
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:49 pm

What a great read, a hoot to say the least. Glad it was you on the plane and not me.
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:07 pm

Great report.

You have a Clive James way with words. Wink
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:44 pm

What a great trip report

From my limited experience with CX in cattle class, I can only say that it is no where as great as it makes itself out to be. From the looks of it, the only thing advanced in that cabin are probably its seats with foldable headrest. CX's inflight entertainment on the majority of its older aircrafts are a joke. So is its selection of food. While SQ's new Y class serviceware, that was previously seen only on its 77W and A380s and are now being introduced to the rest of the fleet, look classy and designed to hold enough food to fill a grown man, CX's new serviceware looks like a cheap copy of my 5 year old niece's play set.

I've always felt that the mixed nationality concept doesn't quite work for crews as the differences in culture, first language make for poor teamwork especially in a packed Y class. I know frequent travelers rave about CX's F and J class crew, but I've never felt that their Y class crew have what it takes to be so called 5 stars.

I know this is a CX TR, but I just have to say this... SQ has the best and most consistent Y class product in the industry. With the introduction of the new 77W and A380 cabins, SQ is now light years ahead of any competition in terms of comfort, entertainment, food and crew.

[Edited 2008-02-29 09:53:29]
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:15 pm

CX don't sound so great here. Still, beats SQ.
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:27 pm

I feel really sorry about your experience with Cathay... From what I read above, it doesn't sound like the same airline I have been flying, bear in mind I travel mostly on Y and HKG-LAX is one of the most frequent sectors I used to fly.

The cabin crew that you experienced definitely is no where near Cathay standard however I do believe that Cathay have some inconsistency issues. The airline is expanding real fast at the moment so quality is a little bit hard to control. Having said that, the worst flight that I have ever got on is still no where near what you mentioned above.

CX Y cabin is dated and they are working to improve it. The new Y seat should provide significant product along with much needed IFE upgrade. I believe this is the first time CX is investing so much on the new Y seat and I do hope that it can satisfy you when you got the chance to sample it.

Having not enough menu and asked you to share? I can't believe it happend.

I agree that CX meal quality is not good... especially out of Hong Kong. However, I don't know if they are doing anything about it the moment.

I am also curious how tall are you? I am 6"1' and I find the CX seat to be fairly comfortable. I always manage to sleep more than 7 hours on HKG-LAX. My knee never really touched the seat in front of me and I always able to strech out a bit.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):

Passport control and security screening simply weren't up to scratch and they clearly did not acknowledge that I, yes I, was travelling. I was offered nothing in the way of a personal escort and nor was I even offered a separate line free from the other peasants who surrounded me with their incessant coughing, spluttering and shrieking akin to a drowning seal. And to think this nonsense was conducted in some dreadful regional Asian dialect. I think some people refer to it as Chinese. Must be spoken by those people in China. Alas I digress.

I am wondering though.. why you need a personal escort here?? and whats wrong with regional Asian dialect? R u trying to degrade some ppl or i am not getting your joke here?

Having said that... I hope you won't judge CX based on this flight. This certainly represent one of the worst CX experience and sometime.. it might be just back luck. Every airline have some off flight. Bear in mind the last time I flew SQ (4 years ago)... my PTV was INOP.. the cabin crew said it was tough luck.. and the flight was delayed by over 2 hours.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:20 pm

I have to admit i found that report very funny and certainly made me chuckle.
Good to read something different.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:38 pm

Certainly different from the run of the mill trip report and made for entertaining reading....
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:05 pm

Thanks for a very insightful report!

Really to no surprise! CX has really allowed itself to drop to such a disgrace in the back of the bus.
Really want to meet Joyce, too! Such a pleasant F/A!

I am totally speechless.

This report will definitely be forwarded to all my friends and family!
CX you better be reading it and taking this report seriously!

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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:24 pm

Excellent trip report and I think you did indeed master the English language, contrary to some of the other comments degrading your use of it. You are clearly well education and are able to verbally express yourself very well.

As for you - you're probably a spoiled brat who has not experienced the brilliance of cattle class very often. Ever heard the saying you get what you pay for? Well, Cathay is supposedly a very good airline but lets face it, you chose to buy a Y ticket and not a J of F ticket. Obviously your ability to dig deep into your bank account and come up with the money is going to have a factor in this, but remember that when you fly in Y and pay for a Y fare, you are not going to get the service and quality that you would expect in a premium cabin. The ultimate goal of any airline is to get you to your destination safely, and that's exactly what CX did. As for your experience, I'm sure it was not half as bad as you made it out to be. If I had to classify your short story as a genre, I would put it in the category of cynical comedy. I'm sure that your trip was not good to say the least, but I'm almost positive that most of your experienced were far exagerated.

Next time, cough up the extra grain for a J ticket and don't whine like a spoiled brat about your experience in cattle.

I do admit, I really enjoyed your trip report but I have absolutely zero sympathy for you.

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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:42 pm

Great TR. I really enjoyed reading it. Maybe next time try AC HKG-YVR-LAX  Wink
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:03 pm

I thought passengers weren't allowed to bring their own alcohol on board, but it seems like you had a good supply of whine for this flight.

I flew a number of flights, in economy, with CX in March/April last year and found them to be excellent. Yes, the food wasn't up to scratch on all but one leg of the flight, but I found their entertainment to be the best out of the non-AVOD carriers that I have flown. And if you have no tolerance for other nationalities' customs and language skills, why do you bother travelling at all?
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:12 pm



Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Upon reaching seat 66D, which might well have been 660D, I was reminded of why I don't care much for Economy Class and try my best to avoid it.

Upon reading this line, I immediately decided to jump to the bottom of this page to write you this comment.
I feel sorry that you have made the biggest mistake in your life for flying in Economy Class, something that you "don"t care much for" ever. No need to blame yourself. Everyone makes mistake. Just make sure you don't hit "Economy Class" when you book online next time.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
yes I, was travelling. I was offered nothing in the way of a personal escort and nor was I even offered a separate line free from the other peasants who surrounded me with their incessant coughing, spluttering and shrieking akin to a drowning seal.

Yes everyone was travelling, too. Why should you be offered personal escort? Also stop addressing other fellow passengers "peasants." Who are you? The King? That's just rude and remember you are not any superior than any others in the line from the way you speak.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
one of the male attendants made it clear I was being a nuisance and strongly encouraged that I return. Faced with the possibility of this delightfully vile attendant's threat of murder for invading his quarters

If you ever care to listen to the PA, it is US government regulation that prohibits passengers from congregating in the aisle, galley or toilet areas. It is stated clearly after take-off over the PA system. Control your temper and listen. Nobody was accusing you of murdering. Don't be silly, please.

Now back to your inflight experience. To a certain extent CX's service has gone down a little, but it shouldn't sound as bad as you portrait in your so-called "report". Right from the beginning your impression to me is that you love pushing people to their mental limit. Think thrice what kind of attitude you showed to the crew before you complain about the bad service you received in return. Show some respect, or else you will just be treated the same way even if you fly First Class on other top-rated airlines. That’s all.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:18 pm

I really like the language of the report and you pointed some details out that are even Y not okay. Still a lot of the things you expected like more food, having enough space, having privacy are things that don't work well with Y. Anyway I hope to read a trip reprort from you flying in First soon.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:31 pm

I'd say this is a somehow ambitious try to present a trip report gloss, but the numerous disrespectful comments about other individuals are not really amusing but rather awkward.


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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:50 pm

Humorous and entertaining report with too much whining thrown in.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
I replied "anything alcoholic to numb the pain please", politely of course.

Somehow I doubt you sounded polite.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
"NO! CANNOT! I run out!" She moved on. I didn't, however.

Good to see CX has finally learnt how to answer passengers like the counterparts at SQ. Better late than never I say!

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Menus were distributed and we were asked to share one between two or three as there weren%u2019t enough. Five star indeed.

Hey, at least you got one. On my last SQ flight the F/A refused to give me one citing "I have to save it for the passengers that need it." Looks like CX did you a favor by letting you share it unlike my lovely and graceful Singapore girl.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Attempting to do so with a 6'2 stature is not particularly easy and I had great difficulty achieving any mild degree of success.

No different than any other airline, even SQ is equally uncomfortable.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
though it's always a little more tolerable aboard my beloved Singapore Airlines

All I can say is you sound more and more like a certain other member on this board.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
One thing I will say categorically is that this is the last time I will ever fly Cathay long-haul, regardless of price.

Thank god! Considering your negative feedback to your old CX report, I find it surprising you degraded yourself by flying them again.

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[Edited 2008-02-29 15:11:44]
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:01 pm

good detail, but your style of writing is annoying. Youre probably not as good a writer as you think you are.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:39 am

I have flown CX YVR-HKG-KUL-HKG-YVR in Y in 2006. The food was bad and quantity was much less than SQ/AI. The IFE was pretty basic too, with movies/shows running on 20 channels continuously which you couldn't start/stop/pause like on SQ flights. However, the service was average, the bathrooms clean and FAs weren't rude at all. I flew AF & NW to India some time back, and I would compare CX to them. They were pretty similar in food/IFE/service.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:18 am

Anthony, Anthony, Anthony.. I just HAD to drop you a line after reading this report, even though I'm supposed to duck out..
This was a hilarious trip report!! I love the way you wrote it - some of the things you wrote are what goes on in my head when travelling long haul, but I never dare to say them out loud!

And for those members criticising his writing, I am sure he had his tongue firmly planted in cheek.. Especially with regards to personal escort and "Chinese dialect" hahaha.

Joyce sounds cute and I hope she has recovered from the trauma she encountered in you on this flight.. :P

Am I to believe that you rate Qantas higher than beloved CX now?
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:20 am

Funny read, thanks for the laugh . . .

CX doesn't treat Premium pac that way, I assure you. I quite enjoyed CX across the big pond in front many years ago.

The nut embargo was funny . . .  laughing 

Hazards of flying Y I guess . . .
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:40 am

Having travelled SIN-HKG-LAX-HKG-SIN myself in the past month, I completely concur with KrisworldB777's views. The service was just atrocious.

At least I got the new CX products from LAX-HKG-SIN (Do CX regularly send the 77W from HKG to SIN cos that was a pleasant surprise) but the great hardware does not make up for the lack of service, smiles and warm touches. Some nice touches SQ has that CX doesn't:

1) Free newspapers in Y. All sorts of newspapers. The only paper I got on CX was ex SIN, and it was a free paper!
2) Proper ceramic plates for the main course and not some disposable cheap plastic thing
3) Proper menus that are bound
4) Cheese and crackers for the main meal
5) A proper glass to go with my meal
6) SQ's new IFE has far better choices than CX's new IFE
7) Hot Towels

THAT SAID, the fare I paid for CX was ridiculously cheap for SIN-LAX, at about USD900 INCLUDING TAX. SQ would have cost about USD700 more and I am more than willing to rough it out in CX if they continue to charge ridiculously cheap prices ex SIN. (Cheese and crackers and newspapers do not cost USD700). After all, that's probably the only way they can continue to get anyone to fly with them in Y!
 
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Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:38 am

Thank You so much indeed for a very entertaining read !
I must commend you on your command of the English language, and the ability to express yourself in such a tongue-in-cheek fashion. I have often been told that some of my writing is excellent, but my effort at expression is in no way comparable to yours.
I really do believe that a lot of what you said is, in fact, often exactly what we are all thinking at various times. Whether or not we have the courage to admit this to others is another thing. I also realize that you are far more intelligent than to expect sincere sympathy. I always put the ability to laugh at impossible situations, and also at oneself, above all other character traits.
Because of cultural, language and personality differences, I realize that a lot of people totally missed the humor and sarcastic wit in your report. However, I must say that this is the most entertaining I have read.
Cheers,
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:48 am



Quoting SR 103 (Reply 15):
Good to see CX has finally learnt how to answer passengers like the counterparts at SQ. Better late than never I say!

Joyce is probably a Singaporean...
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:44 am

Well I thought that was outstanding.....
Its a real shame that obviously many don't understand the humour.


Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 9):
As for you - you're probably a spoiled brat who has not experienced the brilliance of cattle class very often

Get a life.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
I'd say this is a somehow ambitious try to present a trip report gloss, but the numerous disrespectful comments about other individuals are not really amusing but rather awkward.

Get a life.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 16):
good detail, but your style of writing is annoying. Youre probably not as good a writer as you think you are

Get a life.

Ive never understood how people on these forums bother to whinge about things they read and obviously don't like. There are absolute volumes of information, reports, thread etc on here so why read something you either a, don't like the style of or b, disagree with what is being said. Bizarre.

I had a great 15 minutes of my life reading that. Priceless.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you again,

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Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:13 am



Quoting GarethW (Reply 23):
Its a real shame that obviously many don't understand the humour.



Quoting GarethW (Reply 23):
Get a life.

The real shame is that certain people seem to be unable to accept differing opinions on certain subjects. You like a report, others don't. That's life.

Quoting GarethW (Reply 23):
There are absolute volumes of information, reports, thread etc on here so why read something you either a, don't like the style of or b, disagree with what is being said. Bizarre.

Last time I checked this has been a free public board where everybody can leave his opinion.

Quoting GarethW (Reply 23):
Ive never understood how people on these forums bother to whinge about things they read and obviously don't like.

Are you referring to your own comments in reply 23?


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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:04 am

Funny, very funny indeed!

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Obviously the embargo on nuts had since been lifted following my earlier request

- Love this bit!  Smile

Quoting Comeflywithme (Reply 2):
You have a Clive James way with words

- That's very true.

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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:49 am

I don't quite understand how many of those members here who's first language is English fail to see the 'tongue in cheek' humour that has been planted throughout this report. Loosen up I say...
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:28 pm

Brilliant report! Extremely, extremely amusing. I don't condone whining, but I am the master of it myself and can totally relate!

I flew this route in 2005 and must say that the return leg (HKG-LAX) was not very enjoyable...My CX experience was fine, but not great. The crew were efficient if somewhat mechanical. There were 3 meal choices (though one had already run out before they got to my row). The entertainment system was OK, but not great...the remote control did not detach from the seat. And I just got really bored towards the end of the flight. It was an OK experience but I had high expectations that were not met.

I do recall, however, that the F/As cleaned the lavatories and even the toilet bowls every so often - a necessary touch on a such a long flight.
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:15 pm

I'm really glad I read this report, thanks for a very entertaining read!!
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:55 pm

Thank you so much for this trip report - I laughed out loud several times while reading it. Everytime you describe Joyce, in my mind's eye I can see Lilly, Pam Ann's Singapore Airlines' cabin crew. Just search on YouTube if you've never seen her!

To those of you who think he's whinging, whining, or snarky (wasn't he in Thundercats?!!), I'm sorry you completely missed the dry humour in this trip report. If you had understood it, you'd realise that you have just read one of the funniest things you'll read on here!
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:31 pm

I didn't get very far into this well-written report before I was envisaging the kind of responses it would get...and; feeling a little smug; I have to say that I was right!! 

As I said, it was well written, and an entertaining read, with some nice, dry wit included. However, it does come across as a little patronising, considering that; as far as I'm aware (and no, I haven't taken a straw poll...it's just what I've picked up from reading the majority of trip reports written in recent history); the majority of us on here can never afford the luxury of flying anything but Y, and are not necessarily afforded the luxury of having employers that will foot our travel bill on our behalf.

That said however, the service levels on CX do sound a little "how very dare you", but to be fair, we are only hearing one side of the story. I think maybe if you hadn't made the comment regarding Chinese nationals and the "personal escort", you may have won one or two more fans...just my personal opinion!

But like I said, I enjoyed reading your report! As per usual, thanks for sharing!!  

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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:45 pm



Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
A junior flight attendant by the name of Joyce, a drag queen in disguise judging by her questionable selection of makeup, asked what I would like to drink.

you should write a book......
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:23 am

The man wasn't whining. Whining is for kids who can't get their way. This man had problems. Would you call an utterly disgusting lavatory after a flight attendant had just left it, normal? What about the verbal abuse from Joyce and others? The 1:3 ratio of meals to passengers is normal? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard occur on a 14 hour flight and certainly wouldn't call it normal... How is all this whining?
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Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:37 am



Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Passport control and security screening simply weren't up to scratch and they clearly did not acknowledge that I, yes I, was travelling. I was offered nothing in the way of a personal escort and nor was I even offered a separate line free from the other peasants who surrounded me with their incessant coughing, spluttering and shrieking akin to a drowning seal. And to think this nonsense was conducted in some dreadful regional Asian dialect

Are you an elite member with Cathay Pacific or are you some king?

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Not a huge problem of course as it gave me time to send emails to my seven wives and send messages of encouragement to my nineteen illegitimate, though not illegal, children.

I'm sorry I didn't get you.

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
I was confronted by an Indian woman of mammoth proportions blocking the aisle. At first I was concerned that the poor woman had become stuck between the two seats. I gestured to help her as only a true gentleman would

Was there a reason you had to suggest an Indian woman. It seems you don't like the sight of an Indian and you are a reacist

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
I was more worried my hands would be absorbed by her Bangalore-Bermuda Triangle.

Whats this Bangalore-Bermuda triangle all about

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Upon reaching seat 66D, which might well have been 660D, I was reminded of why I don't care much for Economy Class and try my best to avoid it. Sitting down, my knees were wedged into the metal wire of the seat pocket. Why can they not use some elastic fastener that negates the need to have a metal wire wedged into one's knee? Forget suicide by slitting your wrists, this is far more painful.

Than why did you choose to fly economy class if you don't want to fly on it. You could've flown First Class and even possibly avoided all the problems you faced during your journey

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Faced with the possibility of this delightfully vile attendant%u2019s threat of murder for invading his quarters, I decided it to be in my best interests to return with a degree of urgency.

Please be practical in your trip reports, there is good humor and bad humor. You went over the top here
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:51 am



Quoting SQ772 (Reply 26):
I don't quite understand how many of those members here who's first language is English fail to see the 'tongue in cheek' humour that has been planted throughout this report. Loosen up I say...

Here here!

The boy wasn't serious... now for those whose first language isn't Anglise, Englisch, Engelska etc... fair enough the humor may be lost. But all those native english speakers..including those who live in Asia should get the jokes... He had a slack Cathay flight and was making light of the situation via tongue in cheek humor. It wasn't a serious critic of Cathay, all you die hard CX fans. Don't get ur knickers in a knot!
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:46 am

An amazing read! I greatly appreciated your humor.

Great Trip Report, too bad it wasn't just a great trip....  Smile  Sad
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:56 am



Quoting CX 4ever (Reply 12):
If you ever care to listen to the PA, it is US government regulation that prohibits passengers from congregating in the aisle, galley or toilet areas. It is stated clearly after take-off over the PA system. Control your temper and listen. Nobody was accusing you of murdering. Don't be silly, please.

Incorrect. Passengers may not cue or congregate in the forward galley near the cockpit and are discouraged from congregating and cuing in the aisles. That being said, my employer specifically states that due to enhanced security measures restricting passenger movement in the forward galley/cueing in aisles, passengers MAY cue/stand in the other galleys/common areas so long as it doesn't impede with the flight attendant's duties (such as preparing food/loading trolleys).

It sounds like he was the only one in the galley!
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:19 am

Oh wow, when did a trip report last have this effect... lol

But stepping lightly around this bloody minefield of acrimony ... just noticed that CX is using new tableware for economy class - gone are the bamboo effect trays. When did this happen?
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:38 am



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 22):
Quoting SR 103 (Reply 15):
Good to see CX has finally learnt how to answer passengers like the counterparts at SQ. Better late than never I say!

Joyce is probably a Singaporean...

That's probably true as there are now a handful of Singaporean crews working onboard CX, although the chance of you seeing them will be much higher on Singapore sectors.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:25 am

GOLD!!!!!
this has got to be one of the best TR on a.net
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:52 am

Darling its 'queue' not 'cue'. Sheesh.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:30 am

It was an amusing read. Thanks for posting. A lot of humour used here although I must admit I really hope some of the remarks really WAS as tongue in cheek as claimed.

In any case it didn't seem like a great experience. So it seems CX has crashed and burned, it really didn't sound like what CX promotes itself to be. What a shame. I last flew CX 4 years ago and it certainly wasn't this bad ...
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:51 pm



Quoting Ag92 (Reply 33):
Was there a reason you had to suggest an Indian woman. It seems you don't like the sight of an Indian and you are a reacist

NO. He was simply stating the facts. The woman was INDIAN. Had she been American, or in this case Australian, would that be racist? No. It was an adjective. I see absolutely NO racism in his comment about the Indian woman. Ridiculous...

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 33):
Whats this Bangalore-Bermuda triangle all about

A joke, perhaps?

Some of you people need to get out more. Honestly. Recognize the humor people. The man was trying to be funny, and you all take this too seriously. Lighten up.
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:44 pm

A masterpiece of the English language! I knew when this had 40 replies in just a couple of days it had to be a good'un!

I can see why it has rubbed a few members up the wrong way though. As someone who has written a few premium cabin reports and occasionally made ironic comments about the passengers in Economy I've found they don't tend to go down too well here! Irony doesn't always translate well in text form.

Pity your CX experience wasn't too great. I've got a few flights with them in the next few months and are hoping they are a little better than yours!

Quoting CX 4ever (Reply 12):
If you ever care to listen to the PA, it is US government regulation that prohibits passengers from congregating in the aisle, galley or toilet areas. It is stated clearly after take-off over the PA system.

Isn't that just a US carrier requirement? I've never seen BA do the upturned trolley and sandbag routine when the flight crew need to perform ablutions....
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:37 pm

Nice report!

The seats on CX in Y, somehow look very very comfy Big grin



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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:53 pm

I suggest taking the ship over the pacific next time.

Or fly with SQ - because we all know that SQ is the best airline in the world, with its headquarters the world's greatest city (situated in the world's greatest country), employing the world's best flight attendants, serving world's best inflight meal and world's best cocktails (Signature Singapore Sling), and offering world's best service, and just being the best of the best of the world.
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:38 pm

My oh my, what a fuss!

To those of you with positive responses, I thank you sincerely for your commendations. I am glad you managed to extract some entertainment from my experience.

To those of you who clearly despised the report, I can only apologise for destroying your day, week, month, year or otherwise. I apologise for having seen a funny side to my dismal air travel experience. Next time I shall make sure my report is completely serious

Quoting SQ772 (Reply 3):
From my limited experience with CX in cattle class, I can only say that it is no where as great as it makes itself out to be.

It really is Cattle Class isn't it? I honestly thought United and US Airways were of a superior standard.

Quoting Calvin99 (Reply 5):
CX Y cabin is dated and they are working to improve it.

I was fortunate enough to have the new Y seats on the return. They are certainly an improvement, particularly in the upright position. New IFE is fantastic. My major gripe, however, is the level of service provided by the junior cabin crew.

Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 9):
I do admit, I really enjoyed your trip report but I have absolutely zero sympathy for you.

Fear not, never sympathise with the stingy for we make our own decisions and live with the consequences.

Quoting Allrite (Reply 11):
I thought passengers weren't allowed to bring their own alcohol on board, but it seems like you had a good supply of whine for this flight.

Round 1: point to you. I like that.

Quoting CX 4ever (Reply 12):
I feel sorry that you have made the biggest mistake in your life for flying in Economy Class, something that you "don"t care much for"

Hear Hear!

Quoting CX 4ever (Reply 12):
Why should you be offered personal escort? Also stop addressing other fellow passengers "peasants."

Please Sir, don't take words and life quite so literally. You'll find that life is much more fun if you loosen up a little.

Quoting CX 4ever (Reply 12):
CX's service has gone down a little, but it shouldn't sound as bad as you portrait in your so-called "report".

Oh where were you sitting on the flight? Don't think I saw you. Glad you enjoyed the experience though.

Quoting Caspritz78 (Reply 13):
things you expected like more food, having enough space, having privacy are things that don't work well with Y.

True. But contrary to popular belief, I travel regularly in Y on other airlines. I've never had an experience quite this bad.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 16):
good detail, but your style of writing is annoying. Youre probably not as good a writer as you think you are.

Thank you for the compliment. Are you offering your masterful skills to help me improve my skills?

Quoting AY104 (Reply 21):
I have often been told that some of my writing is excellent, but my effort at expression is in no way comparable to yours.

Oh I'm sure you're a fine writer Sir!

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 22):
Joyce is probably a Singaporean

Actually, she was a HKer.

Quoting GarethW (Reply 23):
Well I thought that was outstanding.....
Its a real shame that obviously many don't understand the humour.

Thank you!

Quoting GarethW (Reply 23):
I had a great 15 minutes of my life reading that. Priceless.

Thank you!

Quoting Bwaflyer (Reply 29):
Joyce, in my mind's eye I can see Lilly, Pam Ann's Singapore Airlines' cabin crew.

Funny you should mention that because I thought exactly the same thing. ATTITUDE!

Quoting BAViscount (Reply 30):
I didn't get very far into this well-written report before I was envisaging the kind of responses it would get

You and me both, I always expect the same reaction on this forum but I'm a glutton for punishment.

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 33):
Are you an elite member with Cathay Pacific or are you some king?

Unfortunately not. Still awaiting my promotion from Prince to King.

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 33):
Was there a reason you had to suggest an Indian woman. It seems you don't like the sight of an Indian and you are a reacist

Bollocks. I merely mentioned the fact she was Indian. I am not offended when I am referred to as Australian. Please don't be quite so silly Corporal.

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 33):

Than why did you choose to fly economy class if you don't want to fly on it.

Being a tight arse is an unfortunate though inherent characteristic of my personality.

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 33):

Please be practical in your trip reports

But I like being impractical.

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 41):
I really hope some of the remarks really WAS as tongue in cheek as claimed.

Fear not, my tongue is always cemented to the inside of my cheek

Quoting Deguoren (Reply 45):
I suggest taking the ship over the pacific next time.

What a great idea. I agree, travelling by ship is the only way to go.

Quoting Teamspeedy (Reply 39):
this has got to be one of the best TR on a.net

Thank you!
 
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:01 pm

Really Really enjoyed reading this.

I have been on some long haul economy flights, and this report skillfully captures the experience.

I love the bit about the nuts, the 2nd meal, and then getting more nuts.

If bad flights inspire this kind of story telling, then i wish you more bad flights!!
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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:22 pm

Brilliant! Vestiges of your SIA comedy abound!

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RE: As Low As You Can Go: CX Y - HKG-LAX

Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:59 pm

KrisWorldB777, truly a great read!! I'm American buy blood, but raised English, and this has got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read, I wouldn't take any of the other malarky seriously, and I agree that your kind of wit doesn't translate well in text format....I truly look forward to another one of your reports!!
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