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Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 4:35 pm

Four LH legs without a LH plane: Destination Verona


Hello, dear readers,
welcome to my recent travel experience.

After my very short visit to Madrid:

https://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/124385/

I´ve thought about what to do next.
While there are some Italian cities covered in my log, I like Italy from a travellers point of view, to be honest,
there is still something new to visit.
Verona was such a place.
A short notice around my booking, LH changed the times twice and finally rebooked me on the last leg.



Tuesday, 29.04.2008
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - MUC (Munich-Franz-Josef-Strauss)
Duration: 40 minutes

Service Lufthansa LH 1367 operated by Augsburg Airways Dash 8-300 D-BDTM
Scheduled: 09.00 // 09.55
Actual: 09.15 // 09.55
Gate: 162 Seat: 14F
Load factor: Around 60%
Fare: 49,07 EUR per leg, all leg´s booked on one ticket

History:
04.05.2000: Delivered to Augsburg Airways
Leg no. 3 on the DHC8-3 and the first on this machine

Four flights on my schedule today, three only possible to check-in Monday evening.
No better result after several attempts, therefore I´ve decided to try it again at the self service machines Tuesday morning.
Arrival at the airport at around 07.00 am, the same situation at the machines. I´ve reprinted the three boarding passes and headed for the desks
to, hopefully, solve the problem.
No time to wait there, the morning rush was gone, a middle aged, not that friendly female, picked my three papers, searched in the system and finally printed
the fourth one with my, as always, seat of choice, window last row. Ok so far. No explanation.
Also no time to wait at security, I´ve identified my gate, Terminal 1 ground level and decided to spend the remaining time in T3 with the better views.

Now history, AB on arrival from VIE:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08001.jpg

Nice colours:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08002.jpg

My machine was inbound from MUC announced ontime, no pic, it parked far from the terminal on the apron.
Only two other flights on the DHC8-300 in my log, also both on Augsburg Airways, the last one around three years ago,
so I´am looking forward to this one.
One of the earlier planes was sold, one is still in the fleet, a new addition to my log will be nice, I´ve thought.
It was so, D-BDTM was not covered till this flight.

Nice engine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08005.jpg

Boarding was ontime, a friendly female at the gate and further by bus to the plane.
Two female FAs today, one more, one less friendly, load around 60 %.
The legroom was really generous on that machine, dark grey leather seats, clean cabin.

Inside D-BDTM:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08006.jpg

Cockpit crew was from Germany, the pilot was really talkactive, he welcomed us on the ground and called his plane "The little fuelsaver", a nice gesture.
We used not the whole runway lenght, entered the concrete stretch early to overtake another waiting plane.
Departure from runway 25 to Augsburg, the sky was cloudy, no views along the whole route, but nevertheless calm. No flightlevel information.
The FA´s offered, also on this short flight, beverages and coffee for free.
During the short cruise was the pilot once more on the speakers, he prepared us for arrivals into MUC and called the wheather situation
" freshly washed air", see my pics later.
Arrival on runway 26L, the long way to taxi back to the regional ramp near T2, deboarding by bus and finally the first of four today was in my log.

Bad wheather at MUC:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08008.jpg

From my impression the DHC8-300 is much more spacious than the ATR 42 and even quieter inside.

Deboarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08009.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08010.jpg




Tuesday, 29.04.2008
MUC (Munich-Franz-Josef-Strauss) - VRN (Verona-Villafranca-Valerio-Catullo)
Duration: 1 hour, 10 minutes

Service Lufthansa LH 3936 operated by Air Dolomiti ATR 72-200 I-ADLS
Scheduled: 11.10 // 12.20
Actual: 11.10 // 12.20
Gate: G64 Seat: 15A
Load factor: Around 60 %

History:
01.04.2000: Delivered to Air Dolomiti
Leg no. 8 on the AT722 and the first on this machine

So, one more time in MUC and I was once again impressed. Such a large and spacious terminal, enough chairs to sit back and relax, a lot of clean restrooms.
I´ve decided to walk along the whole terminal before joining my gate on the ground level with the bus boardings.
Ontime boarding, some Dolomiti planes parked one beneath the other, which will be mine?.
Some ATR72´s in my log, no Dolomiti machine, but also some three years ago since my last flight.

Rainy boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08015.jpg

First time on Dolomiti´s ATR:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08014.jpg

Two friendly female FA´s on this service, the cabin fitted with dark green leather seats, clean, the legroom was ok.
A short but detailed, friendly welcome on the ground, the cockpit crew was from Italy.
Departure from runway 26L, also here in MUC we dont used the whole lenght, departed ahead to some other planes at the runway end.
The pilot was once again to hear with the route: Innsbruck-Bozen and the level: 19.000 feet.
The ladies served a snack box, followed by free drinks also wine was on offer.

The mystery box:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08017.jpg

Bon appetit:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08018.jpg
These flight was also calm with no views, clouds everywhere.
Arrival on runway 04 ontime.

VRN apron:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08019.jpg

One more Dolomiti parked:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08020.jpg

Bus deboarding, no airbridges at VRN.

Bye-Bye I-ADLS:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08022.jpg

The second flight today also done. No problem to go with the ATR again.
The airport is well connected with the city´s main train station, oneway 4,50 EUR by bus, around 20 minutes to go.
I´ve decided to walk into the city center, no problem, some 15 minutes and want to see what´s Verona offers.
Wheather situation was not the best, but it remained dry the whole time.

Arena die Verona:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08024.jpg

Torre dei Lamberti:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08042.jpg

Arche Scaligere:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08047.jpg

Julia´s home:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08035.jpg

And her balcony from Romeo´s point of view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08032.jpg



Tuesday, 29.04.2008
VRN (Verona-Villafranca-Valerio-Catullo) - FRA (Frankfurt-Rhein-Main)
Duration: 1 hour, 20 minutes

Service Lufthansa LH 3947 operated by Air Dolomiti BAE146-300 I-ADJI
Scheduled: 18.55 // 20.25
Actual: 19.05 // 20.25
Gate: 9 Seat: 16A
Load factor: Around 80%

History:
12.01.1990: Delivered to Thai Airways
12.12.1992: Further to LAP Paraguay
13.04.1994: In service with British World Airways
17.04.1997: Further to AerLingus
22.08.2005: And finally Air Dolomiti
Leg no. 8 on the BAE463 and the second on this machine

After my last experiences with the bus shuttle ontime performace, I´ve decided to return earlier than usual to the train station.
Not bad, when I´ve walked along I´ve saw the shuttle approaching, boarded and was early on the way back to the airport.
Nothing to view from the outside, beneath the usual airport building place.
A small viewing area from the upper level, but no space to sit and realx, therefore I´ve decided to go airside.

VRN apron right hand side:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08061.jpg

VRN apron left hand side:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08062.jpg

What kind of a bad mistake!, I´ve thought after security.
That was one of the worst, if not the worst airport place I´ve been the last time.
Six Schengen gates with only limited seats in front, pax all around but no flight directly ahead.
A small coffee shop, one restroom with two dirty and smelling cabins, unbelievable nowadays.
Much more crowded when a flight leave, always the announcements, pax for flight XYZ pass security immediatelly,
for sure, the frequent visitors know to join these area only for the last minutes.
Two delayed flights with more waiting pax. Incredible.
And every gate staffed with four to five agents, also when there was no flight from this gate, unbelievable.
Suspicious views when I´ve checked my camera.
Thanks god, my plane arrvied not that late from FRA and bus-boarding was called soon.

Approaching my machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08064.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08065.jpg

Once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08066.jpg

Club Air two hours delayed for Bari:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08067.jpg

Now time to complete the VRN experience. Air Dolomiti operates five BAE146-300´s, a 20% risk to fly the same reg again.
Seven flights ahead to this one on the BAE146-300 in my log with the last early last year
on Air Dolomitis I-ADJI and now the second.
Two middle aged female FAs, not that friendly this time.
All announcements also in german language.
Again the dark green leather seats, good conditions.
3/3 seating, but 2/3 in row 16, therefore enough space for me.
A something stressed welcome from the pilot on the ground, the cockpit crew from Italy.
Departure from runway 22. Nothing more from the flightdeck, therefore no route or level information.
Again the snack box followed by free drinks.

Engine view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08069.jpg

Surprisingly good wheather in FRA, a nice, long approach to runway 25L where we had a smooth landing.
Taxi to the end of the runway passed the other runway and parked near the cargo apron.

Welcome to FRA without rain:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08071.jpg

Bye-bye I-ADJI:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08073.jpg

So, nothing new for my log around leg no.3 today.
Deboarding by bus and through the transfer tunnel to terminal 1A.



Tuesday, 29.04.2008
FRA (Frankfurt-Rhein-Main) - STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen)
Duration: 30 minutes

Service Lufthansa LH 1360 operated by Cirrus Airlines Embraer 170 D-ALIE
Scheduled: 22.15 // 22.55
Actual: 22.25 // 22.55
Gate: A03 Seat: 20A
Load factor: Near 100%

History:
21.12.2004: Delivered to Cirrus Airlines
My premiere on the E170

Time enough to walk to the end of the A area, a nice place from my point of view, not that much pax around there, seats with direct apron/runway views,
always my place if its possible.
If there are no changes around the LH operation today, there will be a good chance for something really new to my log, the first flight with Cirrus airlines
and also the first run on the Embraer 170.
I was surprised when one of the three Cirrus E machines taxied in and parked directly in front of my spotting place, will that be my plane?.
It was nearly dark, so no pic through the glass.
I walked back the whole way to the A entrance, A03 will be my gate for the short hop to STR.
Ontime boarding by bus.
Only a short drive to another machine parked nearby, the scheduled E170, not bad.

My first E170:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08074.jpg

Lufthansa, sorry Cirrus Airlines:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08075.jpg

Boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/VRN08/VRN08076.jpg

Three female FA´s on the plane, ok so far. Stylish blue grey leather seats, clean comfy, good legroom, not bad.
Some confusion during boarding about pax numbers, bags offloaded and loaded again.
The female FO, cockpit crew was from Germany, apologized about it later, some pax do not reach the flight ontime, but others filled the gaps.
Departure from runway 18.
No more announcements from the flightdeck, no route or flightlevel info, no service on this route.
Finally touched down on STR´s runway 25 perfectly ontime. Bus deboarding.
Also flight four done and finally, this time with something new for the log!.


So, what about my rating:

1.) Dolomiti ATR, the nicest cabin crew, informative cockpit crew, good service
2.) Augsburg AW, informative and funny flightdeck crew, nice plane
3.) Cirrus, a new adittion, but nothing special around the flight
4.) Dolomiti BAE, FA´s not that friendly, less informative cockpit crew

Enough Italy for the next time.
I´ve cancelled my trip to Dubrovnik, Croatia one day prior to departure according to the really bad wheather forecast, thunderstorms and heavy rain in the area.
No way for a old town visit by feet and I dont want to be stranded in Croatia.
But nevertheless not that long to wait for the next scheduled flights, on IB and it´s partners to Las Palmas, if nothing goes wrong!.

Comments welcome,
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 5:59 pm

Hi Markus,

I expected this report already! It seems Dolomiti is well covered the last days  Smile
As usual you really made a high quality report with some outstanding pictures!

Also you selected a nice mixture of airlines and aircraft types!
Congrats on getting on the D-ALIE.....I have a bad relationship with her as you know!
But anyway something new is always nice for the log I would say!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
That was one of the worst, if not the worst airport place I´ve been the last time.
Six Schengen gates with only limited seats in front, pax all around but no flight directly ahead.
A small coffee shop, one restroom with two dirty and smelling cabins, unbelievable nowadays.
Much more crowded when a flight leave, always the announcements, pax for flight XYZ pass security immediatelly,
for sure, the frequent visitors know to join these area only for the last minutes.
Two delayed flights with more waiting pax. Incredible.
And every gate staffed with four to five agents, also when there was no flight from this gate, unbelievable.

Somehow this is roughly exactly the same feeling I had when waiting for our Dolomiti flight at MXP.
It must be something with Italian airports I guess.

thanks for sharing your story again!
I'm already looking forward to your next flights  Smile

Viele Gruesse aus AMS,
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 6:09 pm

Hello, Joost,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 1):
It seems Dolomiti is well covered the last days

Much more than usual, thanx to your ride to Milano!.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 1):
Congrats on getting on the D-ALIE.....I have a bad relationship with her as you know!
But anyway something new is always nice for the log I would say!

You will log it, believe me, someday
 Wink

Quoting DALCE (Reply 1):
Somehow this is roughly exactly the same feeling I had when waiting for our Dolomiti flight at MXP.

From my own experience, not that bad like VRN, but also overcrowded.

Gruesse aus dem Süden,
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 6:17 pm

Hi Markus,

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
You will log it, believe me, someday

I will hunt her down, untill I can add her to my log. It is now a must have  Smile
But not on short term, I'm thinking hard for some flights in the near future, somehow June sounds good to me  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
From my own experience, not that bad like VRN, but also overcrowded.

VRN is not in my log yet, but MXP was also overcrowded and dirty.

Gruesse,

Joost
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 6:20 pm

Hey Markus,
Another great report and photos. Nice that you put the history of the aircraft. Good idea to cancel DBV just incase.

So what is your impression of the E170??? I love them as you know.

Looking forward to the next one .

Philip
 
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 6:42 pm

Hello and thanx again for your replys.

Joost:

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
But not on short term, I'm thinking hard for some flights in the near future, somehow June sounds good to me

Sounds interesting, tell me more when you´ve fixed it.

Philip:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
So what is your impression of the E170??? I love them as you know.

Really cute machine, same stylish seats like on your E195 Flybe leg.
Spacious and comfy cabin, especially for these aircraft class, all in all, now one of my favourite aircrafts.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 8:01 pm

Hey Marcus,

Great report as always and a real nice trip with a good mix of planes too!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Only two other flights on the DHC8-300 in my log, also both on Augsburg Airways, the last one around three years ago,
so I´am looking forward to this one.
One of the earlier planes was sold, one is still in the fleet, a new addition to my log will be nice, I´ve thought.
It was so, D-BDTM was not covered till this flight

- 1st result of ther day, a new plane in the log!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
What kind of a bad mistake!, I´ve thought after security.
That was one of the worst, if not the worst airport place I´ve been the last time.
Six Schengen gates with only limited seats in front, pax all around but no flight directly ahead.
A small coffee shop, one restroom with two dirty and smelling cabins, unbelievable nowadays.
Much more crowded when a flight leave, always the announcements, pax for flight XYZ pass security immediatelly,
for sure, the frequent visitors know to join these area only for the last minutes.
Two delayed flights with more waiting pax. Incredible.
And every gate staffed with four to five agents, also when there was no flight from this gate, unbelievable.
Suspicious views when I´ve checked my camera.

= I'll bear this in mind, seems the best place to be is pre security for sure!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My premiere on the E170

- Nice stuff, welcome to the club! - The E170 sure is a nice plane to fly from my experience, I'm hoping to add a Flybe 195 to my log in the near future.

Look forward to the next report, shame you had to cancel a trip, but if the weather was that bad, forget it!

Best Wishes

Mark
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 8:15 pm

Hi, Mark,

thanx also for your nice reply.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
- 1st result of ther day, a new plane in the log!

Exactly my thoughts!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
= I'll bear this in mind, seems the best place to be is pre security for sure!

Definitelly a "no-go-area" after security!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
The E170 sure is a nice plane to fly from my experience, I'm hoping to add a Flybe 195 to my log in the near future.

Sounds interesting, hope to read more about it.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
shame you had to cancel a trip, but if the weather was that bad, forget it!

Especially when you know, that there are actually the first "real" spring days with sunny and warm wheather in southern Germany.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 07, 2008 9:00 pm

Hey Markus,
so bad I couldnt join this trip in MUC...  Sad

looks like D-ALIE is in great demand. Big grin I caught her already last winther...
like Phil the E70 is for sure my favourite RegioJet - I love them and I'm so glad that LH ordered them for the future! Much more better than the CRJs and BAE's.

all in all a very nice trip report (as usual) and very incentive for me to plan a visit to VRN.

are you flying in the morning the 17th???
 
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Thu May 08, 2008 12:24 pm

Hi Markus,

Was it your aim to choose LH legs operated by other carriers? It's an amusing idea one; made easier today by all the wetleases there are.

I see Air Dolomiti still offer good food boxes on board - remarkable for a short flight.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Suspicious views when I´ve checked my camera.


I hate this kind of thing. We're not terrorists!!

Hope you have a good trip to the Canaries and happy flying

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Thu May 08, 2008 4:28 pm

Hola Markus!

Again a very nice TR. I wish I could spend Tuesdays as you do....  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Cockpit crew was from Germany, the pilot was really talkative, he welcomed us on the ground and called his plane "The little fuelsaver", a nice gesture.



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
he prepared us for arrivals into MUC and called the weather situation
" freshly washed air", see my pics later.

I like it when the cockpit are so pleasant and have a good sense of humor, quite uncommon... I remember once on a KL flight BCN-AMS at 6.15 am. The captain came out of the cabin, welcomed us on board and informed us about the routing standing on the aisle... really nice touch I thought. But that's about how much I have seen it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Next: 17.05.2008//FRA-MAD-LPA-MAD-FRA//19.05.2008

¡Buen vuelo!  wave 

Salut!

Roger
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Thu May 08, 2008 4:47 pm

Hello, again and thanx for your nice replys.

Ori:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 8):
so bad I couldnt join this trip in MUC...

No problem, another time, another place
 Smile

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 8):
like Phil the E70 is for sure my favourite RegioJet -

Me too, it seems some more flights coming up soon!

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 8):
are you flying in the morning the 17th???

IB 3507 12.30 but I will be early in FRA for some spotting!
Are you working that Saturday?.


Hey, Hannah:

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 9):
Was it your aim to choose LH legs operated by other carriers? It's an amusing idea one; made easier today by all the wetleases there are.

 checkmark  Much more fun to prepare these trip.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 9):
I see Air Dolomiti still offer good food boxes on board - remarkable for a short flight.

Yes, that was much better than sandwiches or else.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 9):
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Suspicious views when I´ve checked my camera.


I hate this kind of thing.

I agree 100%.


Hola, Roger,

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 10):
I wish I could spend Tuesdays as you do....

As much as possible!.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 10):
I like it when the cockpit are so pleasant and have a good sense of humor, quite uncommon...

True words, but for sure not that common.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 10):
Next Trip Report: BCN-PMI

Have you done the B717 ride?.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Thu May 08, 2008 10:30 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
Me too, it seems some more flights coming up soon!

well, it's atleast not so difficult to catch a Brazilian bird as it was let's say two years ago. In Europe we have
LH/C9 with E70 and even E75 now,
AF/YS with E90,
AZ/XM with E70,
LO with E70 and E75,
AY with E70 and E90 and
BE with E90

now it's your turn Markus to combine that all  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
IB 3507 12.30 but I will be early in FRA for some spotting!
Are you working that Saturday?.

one day later and you would catch the usual A340 on Sundays...
I'm on duty that day, but starting my shift at 2pm

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):

Have you done the B717 ride?.

B717: still missing in my log!!!!  Smile
 
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Thu May 08, 2008 11:13 pm

Hi Markus
Thanks for posting this interesting TR. Multi-leg trip reports with various airlines & aircraft are always very enjoyable to read. Looking forward to your reports with IB.
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Fri May 09, 2008 7:49 am

Thanks for TR, you made me wanting to get on Air Dolomiti, looked really nice!

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12):
well, it's atleast not so difficult to catch a Brazilian bird as it was let's say two years ago. In Europe we have
LH/C9 with E70 and even E75 now,
AF/YS with E90,
AZ/XM with E70,
LO with E70 and E75,
AY with E70 and E90 and
BE with E90

Add FC (FinnComm) E145
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Fri May 09, 2008 6:15 pm

Hello, thanx again for your replys.

Ori:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12):
well, it's atleast not so difficult to catch a Brazilian bird as it was let's say two years ago. In Europe we have
LH/C9 with E70 and even E75 now,
AF/YS with E90,
AZ/XM with E70,
LO with E70 and E75,
AY with E70 and E90 and
BE with E90

now it's your turn Markus to combine that all

Give me some time to connect it!

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12):
one day later and you would catch the usual A340 on Sundays...
I'm on duty that day, but starting my shift at 2pm

Or maybe, catch the A343 on MAD-LPA?.

Not that easy to start working at Saturday 2 pm when others joining the weekend activities.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 12):
B717: still missing in my log!!!!

So, it seems a good reason for a trip to Spain!

Quoting EICVD (Reply 13):
Multi-leg trip reports with various airlines & aircraft are always very enjoyable to read. Looking forward to your reports with IB.

Thanx, Mark and a pleasure to put it all together.
We will see what finally shows up at the gate on IB, several equipment changes since booking.



Hey, Andaman,

Quoting Andaman (Reply 14):
you made me wanting to get on Air Dolomiti, looked really nice!

For sure, worth to try it. Northernmost place on the routemap is FRA.

Quoting Andaman (Reply 14):
Add FC (FinnComm) E145

Flown both E-Jets on STR-HEL-STR some time ago. Nice experience.

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Mon May 12, 2008 9:13 am

Hi Markus,

nice trip report and great pictures once again. And - as always with your trips - probably the greatest variety of airlines and aircraft you can get on a European day-trip.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
From my impression the DHC8-300 is much more spacious than the ATR 42 and even quieter inside.

I totally agree - the Dash 8 in a great plane to travel on.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
operated by Cirrus Airlines Embraer 170 D-ALIE

I have flown on D-ALIE exactly two years ago, when the aircraft was serving STR-ZRH on behalf of Swiss. In those days there was a 100%-guarantee for D-ALIE on that route - unless the aircraft went tech...

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Mon May 12, 2008 4:21 pm

Hello, Christoph,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 16):
when the aircraft was serving STR-ZRH on behalf of Swiss. In those days there was a 100%-guarantee for D-ALIE on that route - unless the aircraft went tech...

Ahh, these long gone days, D-ALIE six times daily between STR and ZRH.
Went tech?. No way
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Mon May 12, 2008 4:35 pm

Hallo Markus

yes, I knew you're doing this trip some day, forgot about the date. Here it is already  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Only two other flights on the DHC8-300 in my log, also both on Augsburg Airways, the last one around three years ago,

Nice catch! Not too much flying around these days....

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
he welcomed us on the ground and called his plane "The little fuelsaver", a nice gesture.

Ahum... a bit too popular I think, but everybody seems to be on the 'better for the environment' tour nowadays Big grin

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
So, one more time in MUC and I was once again impressed. Such a large and spacious terminal, enough chairs to sit back and relax, a lot of clean restrooms.

Will check it out myself next month, even twice  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Some ATR72´s in my log, no Dolomiti machine, but also some three years ago since my last flight

Nice one, and I'm counting only 2 flights on the ATR72, both the same machine  Sad

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The mystery box:

No mystery for me: I found the same box in the report by Joost, which I read before  Silly

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Lufthansa LH 1360 operated by Cirrus Airlines Embraer 170 D-ALIE

Nice catch indeed!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
But nevertheless not that long to wait for the next scheduled flights, on IB and it´s partners to Las Palmas, if nothing goes wrong!.

Happy flying on IB! As I'm also getting closer to date with 5 IB flights booked, I also get more worried. Had 3 flight changes already... and one transfer is minimized to just 1 hour  boggled 

Nice report, great pics. See you in 2½ weeks @ FRA  Wink

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Mon May 12, 2008 4:48 pm

Hi, Eric,

nice to read your reply.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Only two other flights on the DHC8-300 in my log, also both on Augsburg Airways, the last one around three years ago,

Nice catch! Not too much flying around these days....

 checkmark 

BTW, do you noticed that Euromanx ceased operations?.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
So, one more time in MUC and I was once again impressed. Such a large and spacious terminal, enough chairs to sit back and relax, a lot of clean restrooms.

Will check it out myself next month, even twice

Hope so  Wink

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The mystery box:

No mystery for me: I found the same box in the report by Joost, which I read before

He was faster with the same idea!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Happy flying on IB! As I'm also getting closer to date with 5 IB flights booked, I also get more worried. Had 3 flight changes already... and one transfer is minimized to just 1 hour

Three of four equipment changes, two time changes!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Nice report, great pics. See you in 2½ weeks @ FRA

Im looking forward to this special trip!

Sorry, no flying together at 15/06, I´ve mailed you late yesterday, but hope to read an interesting report!.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Mon May 12, 2008 4:57 pm

Hi Markus

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
BTW, do you noticed that Euromanx ceased operations?.

Yeah, noticed that too. So I'm even more happy now that I got on the Dash 8-200 lately, with them!!

But I thought you were also looking in a visit to IOM? I hope this doesn't influence your travel plans?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
Sorry, no flying together at 15/06,

As long as I can get my first A330 , my day will be fine (even without you LOL!)  sorry 

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Mon May 12, 2008 5:20 pm

Hi, Eric,

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 20):
But I thought you were also looking in a visit to IOM? I hope this doesn't influence your travel plans?

Believe it or not, I´ve secured a schedule Euromanx included for July, not booked and read the day after that Euromanx goes out of business.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 20):
As long as I can get my first A330 , my day will be fine (even without you LOL!)

As long as it catch it also someday, no problem, but you know, you´re forced to write a story around that day

 Wink

I see me sitting with cake and coffee and lots of oldies around
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 14, 2008 7:02 pm

Hi Markus,

finally found some time to read your latest report. Very attractive combo, good to see you also like the E-Jets. They are my favorite regional aircraft, with 2-2 seating, a spacious cabin and a respectable take off performance. Now if all operators added some PTVs like AC and B6...  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The ladies served a snack box, followed by free drinks also wine was on offer.

What was under the piece of cheese?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And every gate staffed with four to five agents, also when there was no flight from this gate, unbelievable.
Suspicious views when I´ve checked my camera.

Unbelievable how many airport employees in Europe still seem to be alarmed when they see a camera or binoculars...  Yeah sure

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
3/3 seating, but 2/3 in row 16, therefore enough space for me.

Too bad they use LH-style 3-3 seating - one more reason to look forward to their E-Jets!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Again the snack box followed by free drinks.

Was it exactly the same stuff?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I was surprised when one of the three Cirrus E machines taxied in and parked directly in front of my spotting place, will that be my plane?.

So all three of them were there. It's interesting to note that the other E170, D-ALIA, is one of the E170 prototypes and the sole E175, D-ALIB, is an ex-Air Caraibes aircraft - and the second E175 prototype.


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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 14, 2008 7:40 pm

Hey, PH,

thanx for this nice reply.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
Now if all operators added some PTVs like AC and B6...

In Europe not in the next ten years!.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
What was under the piece of cheese?

Some slices of Salami.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):


Unbelievable how many airport employees in Europe still seem to be alarmed when they see a camera or binoculars...

So true words.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
Was it exactly the same stuff?

Mostly, some other sort of cake!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 22):
It's interesting to note that the other E170, D-ALIA, is one of the E170 prototypes and the sole E175, D-ALIB, is an ex-Air Caraibes aircraft

Around three weeks to go for the next Cirrus E-Jet ride, hope for something new and not D-ALIE again.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 14, 2008 9:41 pm

Hi Markus!

Again a fantastic story! Air Dolomiti service looks great. I've flown them three years ago on an ATR72-500 from MUC to PAD. The serice was flawless, too.

Are you flying every weekend?

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Thu May 15, 2008 4:36 pm

Hi, Stefan,

thanx for another nice reply.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 24):
I've flown them three years ago on an ATR72-500 from MUC to PAD. The serice was flawless, too.

They also operated STR - MUC two years ago, German domestic on Air Dolomiti, interesting!.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 24):
Are you flying every weekend?

As often as possible, but more during weekdays, weekend is family time!.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Wed May 21, 2008 11:51 pm

Good trip report.

I was in Verona last week to see Kiss play, its a very beautiful town, it reminded me a lot of Taormina in Sicily.
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Sat May 24, 2008 8:29 pm

Hello, Ryanair737,

thanx for your reply.

That sounds like an impressive experience, to see Kiss in the arena.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Sat May 24, 2008 8:45 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 21):
Believe it or not, I´ve secured a schedule Euromanx included for July, not booked and read the day after that Euromanx goes out of business.

- Hi Marcus, let me know if you plan to hit IOM at some stage, I might be able to meet for a coffee if the dates are ok.

Regards

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Sun May 25, 2008 12:36 am



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):

Club Air two hours delayed for Bari

Good report! ENAC revoked the authorization to fly of Club Air two days ago.
 
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Sun May 25, 2008 7:16 am

Hi, Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 28):
- Hi Marcus, let me know if you plan to hit IOM at some stage, I might be able to meet for a coffee if the dates are ok.

BHX, MAN, BFS, LTN and LCY, all on my UK schedule later this year.
No interesting connection after Euromanx till now to IOM, but I will definitelly tell you more about my travel plans
around IOM.


Hello, janmnastami,

Quoting Janmnastami (Reply 29):


Good report! ENAC revoked the authorization to fly of Club Air two days ago.

Thanx for the further information. One more "lost" airline.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Sun May 25, 2008 8:46 am

And once again a well-written report with good photos. No surprise not to get any LH mainline aircraft on those regional routes, but good to see that the regional carriers did not disappoint. It still amazes me how the Air Dolomiti brand is still being kept alive (with even the snack boxes carrying Air Dolomiti titles), whereas most other regional brands have become Lufthansa Régional by now.

I also flew D-ALIE back in the days when it was flying STR-ZRH for LX, however:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 16):
I have flown on D-ALIE exactly two years ago, when the aircraft was serving STR-ZRH on behalf of Swiss. In those days there was a 100%-guarantee for D-ALIE on that route

As far as I remeber, D-ALIA was parking next to us - so in fact the chances for D-ALIE were only 50% Big grin

Have a nice sunday, Alex.
 
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Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 30):
BHX, MAN, BFS, LTN and LCY, all on my UK schedule later this year.
No interesting connection after Euromanx till now to IOM, but I will definitelly tell you more about my travel plans
around IOM.

- All those bar BFS are good for a coffee  Smile

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Sun May 25, 2008 10:27 am

Hi, Alex,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 31):
It still amazes me how the Air Dolomiti brand is still being kept alive (with even the snack boxes carrying Air Dolomiti titles), whereas most other regional brands have become Lufthansa Régional by now.

I´ve thought the same, IMO special obliging to the Italian, non AZ, customers.

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 31):
As far as I remeber, D-ALIA was parking next to us - so in fact the chances for D-ALIE were only 50%

With D-ALIB also in service now, it might be a 33% risk to fly the same reg again, in two weeks.


Hello, Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 32):
- All those bar BFS are good for a coffee

Sounds good, drop you a pm with the actual times.

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Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 33):
Sounds good, drop you a pm with the actual times.

- Cool  Smile

Have a good day, raining here  Sad

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Sun May 25, 2008 11:22 am

Hi, again, Mark,

PM is on the way!.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 34):
Have a good day, raining here

Spend the last four days at the German north sea coast with my son,
unbelievable, sunny, windy, no clouds at all.

Done a scheduled flight on OLT operated by the single German registered Gippsland Airvan
from Emden to Borkum, great adventure. Report follows!.

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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Fri May 30, 2008 5:54 pm

Hello Markus,
Thank you for posting this new flying marathon trip report. You are probably one of those who fly the most planes in one day. Always some interesting destinations and stories, I did not even know that Verona had an airport!
So... when will you be doing a "day in Monaco" trip report?  sun 
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RE: Four LH Legs Without A LH Plane: Verona

Fri May 30, 2008 6:26 pm

Bonsoir, Madame Concorde

and thanx for the really nice reply.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 36):
Always some interesting destinations and stories, I did not even know that Verona had an airport!

For sure not the airport place to visit immediatelly!.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 36):
So... when will you be doing a "day in Monaco" trip report?

Some free days in my calender for late September/October, so maybe, we will see

 Smile

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