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A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:28 pm

A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 legs around FRA (1)

Hi, dear readers,

Late January, time had come, that I made final preparations with fellow A.netter FLIEGER67 to do some flying around. To catch some flights together, we decided to stay within Germany, and to stick with one airline. A multi-segment trip on Lufthansa was booked, with 5 flights for both of us, of which 3 together.
I had to position out of AMS, Markus had to position out of STR. For me, the fare per leg was nearly around EUR 60,- each, including taxes. Not bad at all, and a good chance to collect a few more M&M points of course.

So, finally the day had come. Tuesday June 3, 2008;

I had checked in the day before, Markus as well. We arranged seats close to eachother, but both of us having window, of course. So, no need to show up early at the airport, although I still wanted to be in time to print out original boarding passes from the Self Service Check-In machine. And you never know if AMS security is busy, or not… it fully depends on the amount of staff hired on each day.

I decided to take a trainservice leaving around 06:00am in the morning, but I found on internet that it wasn’t running. So I had to catch the 05:34am service, which was too early, but one hour later would be too short, maybe. I didn’t want to take the risk, so I took the early one. Finally no problems to reach the airport, arrival at 05:50am.

At the LH Check-In machine, I was only able to print-out the boarding pass for my first leg. OK, maybe better luck at FRA…Security was fine, busy but running fast. No problems this time. In the clean area, I needed a coffee, but it too many people were queuing at Starbucks, so I went upstairs to the normal food court. Had a really small cappuccino for EUR 2.80 (outrageous price!), and took my seat at the window. Not much traffic around, only some HV charters leaving, plus the single AB service for PMI. Visibility was low, after very heavy thunderstorms which passed by during the night before. Some hours with > 10,000 lightning strikes per hour (!), so you can imagine how serious it was.

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View on the apron, taken from the foodcourt


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Departure screen for B-gates


Then I headed to my gate, B13. In the meantime I checked prices in some tax-free shops. My aircraft was waiting for her first service that day, after nightstop. I noticed the AMS-MUC (LH4691) flight being cancelled, so apparently many passengers were rebooked via FRA on my flight. I was pretty crowded at my gate after all. Finally boarding was announced at 07:15am (10 minutes late, boarding pass showed 07:05am for boarding).

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My first aircraft of the day parked at gate B13


AMS-FRA
Flight No.: LH 4689 Date: 03JUN08
STD: 0735 ATD: 0812
STA: 0845 ATA: 0923
A/C: Airbus A.320-200 Reg No.: D-AIQM
Seat: 25F – Economy Class

My 19th ride on an Airbus A.320, and the first on this machine.


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Boarding finished late, doors closed 07:37am, 2 minutes late. Good to see that the middle seat at my row remained empty. Total load estimated at about 90%. Seat was very comfortable. Light-grey leather, with perfect seatpitch. I really felt good on this aircraft. Safety demo was done manually by the cabin crew. Spoken in German/English language, later another safety demo in Dutch language, by use of a tape. Also Dutch newspapers were given out, although stock only lasted until row 19. Bad luck for me.

Engine start needed the jet-starter today, due to an inoperative APU. I noticed some strange noises during this process and concluded ‘problems’. And it was a problem indeed, later announced by the captain, at 07:55am. We were now waiting for another, more powerful, jet-starter. In the meantime I send a SMS to Markus, who was already on the ground at FRA. I estimated a longer delay, and a shorter connection time for me. We agreed to meet at my arrival gate at FRA.
Doors of the aircraft were re-opened to give some ‘fresh’ air in the cabin. And they were closed again about 15 minutes later, when we got another try with a new jet-starter. Now, all OK. Captain announced departure with the words “Jetzt geht’s los” Big grin

Departure was from runway 18L, after an OS A319, IB A321 and a KL F100.

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Lining up on runway 18L


As soon as the seatbelt sign switched off, the crew commenced their service. For some reason and their working path, my row was served almost at the very end, to be honest, at 09:00am. This was during our holding pattern for FRA…. I got a chicken-filet sandwich, as well a cheese sandwich, a coffee and an orange juice. Good selection of food for this flight, but served too late.
When I got it, I nearly had time to eat it.

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Cabin view on D-AIQM


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Breakfast service in Economy Class for flight LH4689


During descend the crew gave info about connection flight, mostly USA bound. My flight was not mentioned. Arrival gate was said to be A32. I quickly finished my eating, and crew did their rubbish collection. Final preparations for arrival.

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Approaching Frankfurt-Main


Landing was on runway 25L, at 09:15am. It was a rough touchdown. An LH A340-300 landed almost simultaneously at runway 25R. Nice to see the action.

Arrival gate was indeed A32, block-in was 38 minutes behind schedule. I met Markus and we proceeded to the next gate, A26, for the next flight to TXL.

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Parking was next to a company Boeing 737-300


According to Markus, D-AIRX was on the planning to do our flight to Berlin. I knew this would mean the LH Retro-Jet, and for sure it was when we saw it arriving from CDG a little later.
Also for me, this was a nice surprise, since the aircraft was downgraded from the original A300.

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D-AIRX arriving from CDG


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A small delay expected on the screens…


FRA-TXL
Flight No.: LH 176 Date: 03JUN08
STD: 1015 ATD: 1040
STA: 1120 ATA: 1140
A/C: Airbus A.321-100 Reg No.: D-AIRX
Seat: 36A – Economy Class


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My 6th ride on an Airbus A.321, and the first on this machine.

Full flight. Boarding took a while. Probably caused by the long cabin of the A321. It takes ages to get everybody seated. We used the barcode on the boarding pass, for boarding. A nice extra passenger feature on LH, I think.
Grey leather seats, and we took the last row. Markus at F, me at A. Both window. Other seats filled up quickly, full house on this flight.
Legroom was the poorest one this day. For sure a lot more worse then on the A320, B737-500 and A300.

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Can you spot my aircraft?


Takeoff was from runway 25L, followed by a right turn when we were airborne. Quite unusual departure, I think. Good views through the windows during this flight up North.

Service commenced shortly after take-off. Drinks only. I got a coffee and an orange juice on this flight.

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Good views outside for sure


In the back of the A321, I think that this aircraft is less comfortable then shorter narrow-bodies. It seems less stable inflight and also when taxiing on the ground. Anyway, that’s just my personal impression, and I never noticed when I was seated upfront on the 321 with other companies (BD, AF).

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Approaching Berlin-Tegel


We had a bit bumpy approach into TXL, finally landed on runway 08L. Interesting Il-76 cargo plane on the military apron. Too far away though for a good picture. Deplane by a fingergate, into the small arrival hall.

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Parking next to another Airbus 321



TXL-MUC
Flight No.: LH 223 Date: 03JUN08
STD: 1305 ATD: 1305
STA: 1415 ATA: 1405
A/C: Airbus A.320-200 Reg No.: D-AIPB
Seat: 26A – Economy Class


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My 20th ride on an Airbus A.320, and the first on this machine. This aircraft is the second A320 ever delivered to LH, and therefore more interesting.

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D-AIPB, our Airbus A320, parked at the gate …


Flight was originally planned on an A321, so another downgrade of equipment today. Another full flight expected. Markus worried a bit about our seat assignments. Does an A320 have 26 rows? We weren’t sure, but finally it was all OK.

Boarding started about 15 minutes before departure, early enough. We departed on schedule. Manual safety demo given again. Seats comfortable, same as on the AMS-FRA leg. And for sure much more legroom on LH’s A320, then on her bigger sister A321.

Load on this flight, about 95%. No free seat in my row, but still space enough.
Takeoff from runway 08R, and on runway 08L an Air Berlin B737-800 landed simultaneously. Nice views. Some moderate turbulence after takeoff, caused by the heat. Also some serious cloud formations around Berlin, probably the sign of thunderstorm later that day. All together nice views.

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Takeoff, with an Air Berlin arriving on the other runway


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Surfing the clouds after take-off, it got a bit bumpy ride here!


Inflight we got drink service only. I got a coke. That’s it.

Above mid-Germany, we climbed further, to come above clouds levels. Some bad weather below us, probably to turbulent to fly in. Germany had some severe weather last week, causing huge problems in several areas. Better to avoid any trouble of course…

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More interesting cloud formations above mid-Germany


Captain gave a small information from the flightdeck, only mentioning an ‘on time’ arrival and good visibility on arrival.

Landing was done on runway 26R. The aircraft for our next flight was arriving not long before us, we saw it taxiing in to the gate.

We finally parked on a remote spot, no. 245. Deboarding by stairs, both using front and rear doors. 3 buses waiting to deliver us into the terminal building. Time until next flights boarding start; about 15 minutes!

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Bus transportation to the terminal building after arrival



MUC-FRA
Flight No.: LH 975 Date: 03JUN08
STD: 1455 ATD: 1500
STA: 1600 ATA: 1545
A/C: Airbus A.300-600R Reg No.: D-AIAL
Seat: 44K – Economy Class


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First flight on the Airbus A300, so I was very happy. This was the main purpose of this trip!

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Largest aircraft this day, the A.300-600R! What a beauty!


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Boarding at 2 doors


Gate G30. Boarding finished at 14:50pm, all on time. Load around 50%. Seat next to me remained empty. Legroom and comfort very much OK, even better then on some longhaul Boeing 747-400s and B777-200’s. Of course, no IFE on this machine. So it might be boring on the longer flights. For us, no problem at all. The A300 itself is enough entertainment for us today Big grin

Interior looks new. Very bright cabin. Clean and in good condition, since this aircraft first flew in 1987 when it was delivered to LH.


Nice and well kept interior on D-AIAL


Cabin crew was about 9 staff, but can’t say for sure. Safety demo also done manually on this 2-aisle aircraft. Friendly staff, it seems.

Takeoff from runway 26R. The video says enough;



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Turning right after take-off


Short flight. Drink service only. I got a can of sprite. Good views outside. Some talking with Markus, and just enjoying the flight on this aircraft. Descend to FRA was interesting, good views on the Frankfurt-City skyline, which is still one of the best in Europe. In the meantime transfer informations was given for connecting passengers.

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Cabin view on this A300 flight


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Approaching Frankfurt again, second time today for us!


We used runway 25R for landing. Busy scene again at FRA. Interesting traffic. The crew said some words of ‘Thank You’ to us, and then music of Norah Jones was playing softly through the cabin.

We docked in at gate A17, fingergate deplaning. Arrival ahead of schedule.

Markus took me upstairs to catch the Skyline monorail and showed me the observation deck. Nice traffic, good views on the airport action. After some time he delivered me back at Terminal 1, I had to catch my flight back to AMS. We said goodbye. It were some nice and interesting flights together!
Next flight was leaving from gate A30. Aircraft change again. Original being a Boeing 737-300, it was now with the smaller B737-500. No big deal, but bad change since I noticed D-ABIW at my gate. This registration is already flown by me, so the final flight today was the worst  Sad.

Coffee facility was out of order. Newspapers: only German and English examples.

I had another view on FRA operations outside, and saw JL flight 407 arriving from NRT.

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Boarding gate for the AMS bound flight



FRA-AMS
Flight No.: LH 4682 Date: 03JUN08
STD: 1745 ATD: 1744
STA: 1855 ATA: 1844
A/C: Boeing 737-500 Reg No.: D-ABIW
Seat: 18F – Economy Class


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My 7th ride on a Boeing 737 series –500. But the second time on this particular machine…


A well-known plane for me already, just bad luck today!


Boarding start at 17:20pm. Finish 18 minutes later. I got neighbours, but not the best ones, and mostly annoying during the complete flight. I never had such a bad experience with my seatmate… anyway, a short flight, so I kept myself just calm.

Load was nearly 100%, seats ok, legroom ok. Still better then on the A321. Cabin showing some age, side panel lighting a bit yellowish.

Takeoff from runway 25R. Right turn after takeoff.

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Airborne at runway 25R


I didn’t do a lot on this flight. Being irritated by my seatmate, I tried to sleep a bit. And I took some pics, or course.

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More clouds visible also enroute to AMS


Mealservice was done. A good selection. A sandwich with cheese, and a Twix candybar. Also available was a Warsteiner beer, served in a 0,2 glass bottle. Good choice LH! And Markus, I got it  Wink

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My mealservice on the FRA-AMS leg. Good choice, Lufthansa!


For the rest nothing to mention on this flight. Descend of the Dutch province of Flevoland, landing was done on runway 18C, since 18R was not available that day. A World War 2,500lbs bomb was found near this runway, and special service teams were trying to make it harmless.

Parking at the usual LH gate: B09. Ahead of schedule.

This makes the final for this day. All together, a lot of fun, a lot of impressions, and 4 new registrations for my log, and 1 new aircraft type. Not bad at all.

About LH; I still like this airline. It offers a good price/quality level, and also offers some unique passenger services, online and at the airport. This makes LH different from most other European airlines, and my airline of choice for personal travel, when possible.

Some negative views; AMS ground staff is still not on par with the German colleagues. Not very friendly, and boarding started too late, resulting in delay. Also providing a wrong jet-starter is not professional at all.
At TXL, the airport facilities lack. Toilets are at inconvenient locations, and not very clean. Also boarding gates are quite narrow. It’s an older style airport, but needs some renovation for sure.
The A321 seatpitch also lacks a bit, and I don’t understand why there should be difference from the other aircraft flown this day (B735, A320 & A300).

On the other side, MUC and FRA are very convenient and offering good facilities. No problems to use these airports again.

Thanks for reading! Comments always welcome,

Eric

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:48 pm

Cool TR! That soudn liek a fun trip to take! Its so easy to fly in Europe. not that good in the US
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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:52 am

Hi Mark,

thanks for your kind words,

Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 1):
Its so easy to fly in Europe. not that good in the US

I think such a daytrip in the US is no problem at all, even nowadays. Sometimes we see also here interesting reports by other users, for example when they fly a few DC-9's on NW for one day  Wink

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:49 am

Very interesting report with a nice mix of aircraft. The A300 on domestic flights rocks. Back in the mid-90s I had D-AIAN on a FRA-NUE leg, as a replacement for a scheduled 737. It has been the most powerful takeoff ever for me...

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
According to Markus, D-AIRX was on the planning to do our flight to Berlin.

I also had the pleasure to fly on that bird once - but long before it got the special livery...

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Newspapers: only German and English examples.

Not unusual, is it?

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
I got neighbours, but not the best ones, and mostly annoying during the complete flight. I never had such a bad experience with my seatmate…

What did they do?

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
It’s an older style airport, but needs some renovation for sure.

I doubt we will see lots of upgrades with BBI ahead, sooner or later...


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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:55 am

Hi, Eric,

well done.

For me a remarkable difference to read the preview without pix and now the final one included your pix.

Will be online with my part in the next view minutes.

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:38 am

Hi Eric!

Interesting story! Nice pics as well.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 7th ride on a Boeing 737 series --500. But the second time on this particular machine...

D-ABIW is in my log, too. It's annoying to fly the same registration twice. I've flown the A333 only two times, but both flights on the same aircraft  crying 

Thanks for sharing.

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:22 am

Hi guys, thanks for your replies!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Very interesting report with a nice mix of aircraft. The A300 on domestic flights rocks

It rocks indeed, especially with light loads and low fuel, it's powerful like a rocket Big grin

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
I also had the pleasure to fly on that bird once - but long before it got the special livery...

Inside the cabin it won't differ from the other examples, I guess... it's just the feeling to be on this special one  Wink

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Not unusual, is it?

AB offers sometimes Dutch newspapers at the gate, of their AMS bound flights. So why can't LH do that as well... Not a big problem me though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
What did they do?

Using too much space, annoying me with his arm and leg, reading the newspaper and when turning the pages, making contact with my body. Looking strange when I made a picture, or when I wrote down the notes in my small notepad etc. You can imagine, I think  Wink

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
doubt we will see lots of upgrades with BBI ahead, sooner or later...

That will take ages before they finish this airport. Did they even start already building?

@ Markus;

I'll take a look now. For you it's back to Tuesday when you see the pics now  Smile

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 5):
D-ABIW is in my log, too. It's annoying to fly the same registration twice. I've flown the A333 only two times, but both flights on the same aircraft

Stefan, thanks! It's annoying that carriers with such a large fleet of aircraft, give you the same aircrafts every time again  Sad I've had same experiences on FR and even JL, flying same aircrafts everytime again. So, I fully understand your feelings  Wink

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:38 am

Hey Eric,
Excellent trip and great that you arranged this with fellow Anetter Markus!! Its always great to share the experience with someone who has the same love for aviation as you do.

What luck to get the retro jet. Sure looks nice. Also the interior of the A300 looks like the A/C was delivered a few months ago, very nice!!

Thanks for a great report

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:48 am

Philip, thanks for your nice reply,

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Excellent trip and great that you arranged this with fellow Anetter Markus!! Its always great to share the experience with someone who has the same love for aviation as you do.

Always nice to meet the people again (I had met Markus before at AMS), and have a conversation. Combinate it with a nice selection of aircraft, the day becomes even better Big grin

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
What luck to get the retro jet.

We were lucky, since it was a downgrade from the AB6. Now, we got more or less some compensation  Wink

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Also the interior of the A300 looks like the A/C was delivered a few months ago, very nice!!

It says something about LH. They keep their aircraft in proper condition, although the frames are getting older and older, the passengers won't notice it at all.

NB . - when do we plan a day of flying around the UK, Ireland or NL ?  Wink

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:14 pm

Hey Eric, good report.

Looks like some good flights with good company.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
I got a chicken-filet sandwich, as well a cheese sandwich, a coffee and an orange juice. Good selection of food for this flight, but served too late.

- Hmm, not bad, much better than some LH offerings I've seen.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
According to Markus, D-AIRX was on the planning to do our flight to Berlin. I knew this would mean the LH Retro-Jet, and for sure it was when we saw it arriving from CDG a little later.
Also for me, this was a nice surprise, since the aircraft was downgraded from the original A300.

- Bummer that the plane was downgraded but at least something special came from the downgrade.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
First flight on the Airbus A300, so I was very happy. This was the main purpose of this trip!

- Well done, I can imagine how please you must have felt, makes me want to book a few LH trips just to get on a few more A300's.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Original being a Boeing 737-300, it was now with the smaller B737-500. No big deal, but bad change since I noticed D-ABIW at my gate. This registration is already flown by me, so the final flight today was the worst

What a shame, nothing worse than getting on the same plane again, especially when the airline has such a large fleet.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Mealservice was done. A good selection. A sandwich with cheese, and a Twix candybar. Also available was a Warsteiner beer, served in a 0,2 glass bottle. Good choice LH!

- Again, nice snack.

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:47 pm

Hmmm, it's difficult to decide whose report to respond to, but as I've responded to a number of Markus's in the past, I'll choose yours this time!  Wink

Sounds like the two of you had a fun day! I have to say that having spent time with Markus on one of his flying visits to London, I can imagine that he's a great travelling companion!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
In the back of the A321, I think that this aircraft is less comfortable then shorter narrow-bodies. It seems less stable inflight and also when taxiing on the ground.

I agree! I've had a number of A321 flights just recently, but the last time I was in the back of one was on an LH flight FRA-LHR last summer. We flew in bumpy cloud the whole way and it was really very uncomfortable...I had to hold on to my drink to stop it from spilling everywhere. You could really feel the tail of that thing moving from side to side!

Thanks to both of you for the interesting report(s) - spending the day flying just for the hell of it is a great use of a day!

Cheers.

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:17 am

Hi Mark & Andy, thanks for your kind replies,

Quoting BAViscount (Reply 10):
but as I've responded to a number of Markus's in the past, I'll choose yours this time!

Thank you very much  Wink I hope you won't upset Markus now  Silly

Quoting BAViscount (Reply 10):
I can imagine that he's a great travelling companion!

No quiet moments throughout the day, and nice talks, so we had a great day together!

Quoting BAViscount (Reply 10):
I've had a number of A321 flights just recently, but the last time I was in the back of one was on an LH flight FRA-LHR last summer. We flew in bumpy cloud the whole way and it was really very uncomfortable...I had to hold on to my drink to stop it from spilling everywhere. You could really feel the tail of that thing moving from side to side!

Same impression for me. On other flights more upfront, I didn't notice these things, but in the rear, it's getting less comfortable, for sure.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
Well done, I can imagine how please you must have felt, makes me want to book a few LH trips just to get on a few more A300's.

I also want to fly on one or few more in the future, maybe on a bit longer flights as well. This aircraft is very nice and comfortable to fly on.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
Hmm, not bad, much better than some LH offerings I've seen.



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
Again, nice snack.

Yeah, the European catering seems ok now with LH, and slightly better then e.g. KL will serve on this route.

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Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:21 pm

Hi Eric,

great report and still a great variety of different types of aircraft, even with three downgrades of equipment. At least you got the promised A300-600 on MUC-FRA.

Travelling with an other A.Netter is definately nice - like that, you can share your impressions.

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Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:23 pm

Very interesting route, Eric: AMS-FRA-TXL-MUC-FRA-AMS  Smile

Glad to see you've enjoyed LH...next you should try a Scandinavian/Baltic route on SAS, Blue1 and/or LOT, to add some more miles to your *-Alliance account...; maybe finish it off via Ukraine on OS ?

The A300-600 looks really nice after the interior-upgrade; how can they be flown economically on a stretch MUC-FRA, though ?
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Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:36 pm

Hi Christoph, Hi Pieter!

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 12):
great report and still a great variety of different types of aircraft, even with three downgrades of equipment. At least you got the promised A300-600 on MUC-FRA.

Happy as a child to catch the AB6, and also happy with the Retro. As I like flying on any aircraft, it doesn't make much sense usually, which aircraft type. But any new type, and registration is nice for me!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 13):
Very interesting route, Eric: AMS-FRA-TXL-MUC-FRA-AMS

I still can't do such thing on KL  Wink

Quoting MH017 (Reply 13):
Glad to see you've enjoyed LH...next you should try a Scandinavian/Baltic route

On my planning... now looking for good schedules. At least I also want to add a AY EM9 flight in it  Smile

Quoting MH017 (Reply 13):
how can they be flown economically on a stretch MUC-FRA, though ?

I saw a lot of cargo being loaded in the lower holds, for sure connecting onto the LH longhaul network ex FRA. It's for sure cheaper and more safe then by road service. Also many Asian passengers. I saw at least a group connecting to NH for NRT... (next time they take JL, I hope  Wink)

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Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:54 am

Hi Eric,

It seems that you guys had a great day! A very nice selection of aircraft, a nice routing, and above all a nice airline  Smile
A pity that you scored the D-ABIW for the second time, but I guess that your flights with the AB6 and the D-AIRX really made up for that.
I envy you that you scored the retrojet, a bird which unfortunately misses in my quite large LH log  Smile

It was a great read, and I can't wait to read your next reports!
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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:36 pm

Hi Joost,
thanks for your kind reply! It was a good score for sure.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 15):
It was a great read, and I can't wait to read your next reports!

Next one coming online hopefully on June 16th... if I find enough time for it  Wink
Otherwise, you might be interested in this one, if you didn't notice it yet:

Flying Flemish, A Dutch Lady Between 2 Harbours... by Airbuseric in Trip Reports Forum

Groeten!
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Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:37 pm

Hola Eric!

Great TR as usual.

It is really nice to meet someone who shares your enthusiatic views about aviation and spend a flight together.

Maybe one day we all anetters can fit onto a plane and head soemwhere. Would it be a nice idea, wouldn't it? I guess crew would ahve a fun time as well with a plane full of crazy people about aviation.

Salut!

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Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:22 pm

Hi Roger,
thanks for replying!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 17):
It is really nice to meet someone who shares your enthusiatic views about aviation and spend a flight together.

For sure, that Markus is a great tourguide for some inner-German flights  Wink You can be sure that you won't have a boring moment throughout the day!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 17):
Maybe one day we all anetters can fit onto a plane and head soemwhere. Would it be a nice idea, wouldn't it? I guess crew would ahve a fun time as well with a plane full of crazy people about aviation.

For sure a nice idea! Then we should charter an IB aircraft, and all start making pictures  Wink The crew will get totally mad  Yeah sure

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Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:27 pm

Hola Eric!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Then we should charter an IB aircraft,

This is my proposal  Wink



Salut!

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Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:55 pm



Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 19):
This is my proposal

hehe, that would mean another logojet for me then  Wink Good choice!

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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:49 pm

Hi Eric, great report! IIRC I think I've read it, but of coure I'll be kind enough to leave a comment. Even though I'm almost two years late  

It looks like you and Markus had some good flights there on interesting aircraft, i.e the retro A321 and the A306 (R.I.P)

The meal service provided on LH looked very generous at that time, not sure whether it's still the same today, maybe on longer flights like ARN, but not AMS I guess. And I'm assuming they didn't offer seconds at that time either.
Though what's so special about that Warsteiner Beer, everyone's talking about it?

The A300-600 interiors looked great, the new'ish seats are 10 times better than the old ones, which I'm guessing have been around since the 80's. Did the A306 have the old long haul J seats installed?

Thanks for sharing
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RE: A Dutch-German Joint-Venture: 5 Legs Around FRA 1

Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:25 pm

Loks like a nice day out, if the fares are cheap why not do a flying tour of Germany?, stops you from spending all your money at the pub.
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