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LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Wed May 27, 2009 8:05 pm

Hello dear readers, time for a new trip report. My last flight was back in January (to JFK), so it was time for some new flights. I was looking around for some time and ended up with a short break to DUB.

I arrived at PAD about 1 hour prior to departure. Check in was done online the night before. Not much traffic at the Check in counters and after a short wait I dropped my bag and showed my id card, because my final destination Ireland is a non-schengen country. Then I went through security where I was the only customer. Then on to gate 6 where the LH business lounge is located as well. It’s a small lounge without staff. When entering the lounge you have to type in a code number on a panel next to the door. You get the number at check in. I sat down for a while and watched out of the window and waited for the incoming flight from FRA. Soon thereafter D-ACJH arrived and parked in front of the lounge.
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Flight: LH 1171, operated by Lufthansa Cityline
Route: PAD-FRA
DATE: 16. May 2009
SCHEDULED: 09:00 // 09:45
ACTUAL: 08:55 // 09:35
A/C: CRJ200LR
REG: D-ACJH (little Europe), 22nd flight on a CRJ100/200, 4th time on this machine
SEAT: 14F
CLASS: ECONOMY


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This aircraft was delivered to LH Cityline on Oct. 27th 1998 as a CRJ-100LR. I’m a bit confused about the type, because nowadays they are called CRJ-200LR. I don’t know the difference from a 100/200 and LR/ER. Is there anybody out there who can answer this question?

It’s already my 4th flight on this particular plane. Usually I’m disappointed to miss a new entry to my log, but flying on a plane with a special livery is a way of consolation.

I left the lounge a few minutes prior to boarding to take some photos:
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Boarding started on time and we went down the jetbridge to the apron.
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At the door I was greeted by a female f/a. My seat was 14F in the last row. The aircraft has 13 rows. Row 13 is missing, perhaps they are superstitious? The seat next to me remained empty. In 14A was a LH cockpit dead head crew. 14B remained empty as well. Today only the last 5 rows of the plane were economy, the front part was filled up with business pax. Good load today, also the economy section was pretty full. Nevertheless LH will suspend operations from FRA to PAD. From July on all LH pax will have to fly via MUC.
Boarding was completed soon and the captain welcomed us aboard, followed by the stewardesses ballet, the manually safety demo. We left the parking position 5 minutes ahead of schedule and took off from rwy 24. The flight was uneventful, one round of beverages and soon we started our approach into FRA.

Inflight:
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We landed on rwy 25R and taxied to a remote stand at the Cargo City. A bus picked us up and brought us to terminal 1. Most pax were transit pax, me too, but I left the airside area and went upstairs to the check in desks to change my self printed boarding pass into a really one. Economy desks were crowded, but thanks to my frequent traveller card I could use the business desks with only a few minutes to wait. I got my boarding pass without questions and went down again to the regional train station. I had about 6 hours to kill. I could have had a shorter connection, but I always prefer to have some time to visit the city of Mainz. I lived there some years ago and now I use every chance to go there again, so I did on this sunny Saturday morning again. The ride took about 30 minutes and here we go:
Rhine river in the city:
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The market:
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After strolling around I went to the brewery and had lunch:
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After lunch I took the InterCity train to the airport where I arrived at the long distance train station:
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The bridge from the train station to terminal 1:
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After reaching the terminal I entered hall B, which has two security checks. First I headed to the left one, which was just got closed for some reason. A female guide wanted to lead all pax to the other entrance. Between the entrances are some shops and a bar. Luckily I knew the other entrance and took a shorter route and hurried to the right entrance, where nobody was in line, so after only a few minutes I was airside. First I strolled through the main shopping and dining area, then to the east gates and at last to the west gates, where I wanted to enter the business lounge. In my experience this lounge is not as crowded as the other ones. But I couldn’t find the entrance because of extensive construction works the lounge was closed. I remembered that I read something about this in the LH magazine last time and that there should be another lounge area. I asked a LH agent at an empty Chennai gate and she told me, that I got by already. I went back and noticed, that the lounge was now only a separated gate area. Everybody could look over the barrier into the lounge, but the beverage and food area was hidden behind a bend. I didn’t take anything, but I saw a bakery where you could get fresh bread and sandwiches, fresh made on demand. Nice Idea IMO. The lounge was pretty empty, only a few sleeping pax. I took seat at the window and enjoyed the view.

The bakery and beverage area:
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LH A319 D-AILU:
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LH A333 to KWI:
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The A pier with the sky train station on the roof:
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LH 744 D-ABVN towed to the A pier:
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Flight: LH 4982
Route: FRA-DUB
DATE: 16. May 2009
SCHEDULED: 16:20 // 17:20 (1 hour time difference, duration 2 hours)
ACTUAL: 16:15 // 17:05 (gate to gate)
A/C: A321-131
REG: D-AIRO (named after the city of Konstanz), 5th flight on an A321, 1st time on this machine. It was delivered to LH on Dec. 11th 1995.
SEAT: 15A
CLASS: ECONOMY


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Soon it was time to leave the lounge. My gate was B32. It is a bus gate in the centre of the B pier. Another security check was necessary. After some minutes boarding was announced. I was one of the first pax down in the bus. The bus brought us to a position between the B and C pier, which has no own gate. We boarded the aircraft by stairs:
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View from my seat:
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We were greeted by a male purser at the door. Boarding was completed fast. The seat next to me remained empty again. At the aisle sat another man. Doors were closed and another welcome from the cockpit. Stewardess ballet (safety demo) was again done manually. What a pity that LH doesn’t have screens on their medium fleet.

While taxiing to rwy 25R, busy new C gates: three LH 744, the first is D-ABVA, which flew me to JFK back in 2007.
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A towed LH A340-600:
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At rwy 25R we had to wait for an incoming LH A300-600. I love these planes:
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We took off at 16:23 and headed north west.
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After the seatbelt signs went off the crew started their service. We got a banana-chocolate bar, a wholemeal bread with cheese and a drink. I chose a tomato juice with salt and pepper:
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After a while in the air the captain came again on the speakers and informed us very detailed about our route today. We flew via Eindhoven, Rotterdam, north of London, Manchester and Liverpool towards Dublin. Our crz alt was 36.000 ft and the speed 850 km/h. Over Liverpool we would begin our descent into DUB.

Reaching the UK:
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Leaving the UK:
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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/StefanPAD/Dublin/DUB29.jpg

Because of that the captain and the purser were soccer fans and this Saturday afternoon were several important games in the German soccer league, they informed us three times about the current scores. They did it only in German and informed the other pax in English, that the soccer score would only be interesting for German pax.
The purser was a tall strong looking man around 50. No smile on the face, like many A.netters describe the uncourteous LH crews.

Back in 1999 I’ve been already to DUB. Then we had an approach from the sea to the land. I remembered that I had an A seat and a beautiful view over Dublin city. Therefore I chose an A seat again today, but unfortunately we made our approach from land to sea. After getting through the clouds:
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The airport is already visible:
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We landed on rwy 16:
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A 737 Cargo:
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While taxiing the purser said: “Ladies and Gentlemen, outside it is green, it is raining and it is cold. Welcome to Ireland!”  Smile

Two locals and a visitor on remote stands:
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We reached our parking position in front of the terminal, but without a jetbridge. Therefore we had to use the stairs and walk into the terminal. I thanked the purser for the soccer scores with a smile. Now his face turned friendly and he smiled as well. Nobody was behind me this moment, so we had a quick joke, said our goodbyes and wished us a good day. He was a funny guy. Perhaps we Germans are only looking a bit grimly sometimes.

D-AIRO at the terminal:
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This architecture is not made for photographers:
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I walked a looong way into the main terminal:
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The new terminal is still under construction:
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Finally I reached the main terminal and came downstairs into the passport control hall. It looked already crowded, but it moved quickly and after less than 5 minutes I was through. I went to the baggage claim and waited some minutes until the belt started turning. I never understand the crowds scrambling for the belt without seeing their bags. I always wait in a distance and go to the belt when I see my bag. After grabbing my bag I went outside and looked for the hotel shuttles. As I couldn’t find any I asked two police officers, who had a smoke, and they told me to go to the other site of the building.
I decided to go back into the terminal and up to the departure level to check in and get my boarding passes for tomorrow morning. The LH counters were already deserted. So I went outside again and to the bus station, which was assigned for the Radisson airport shuttle bus. Several busses came, for staff, for other hotels, and after 15 minutes my shuttle arrived and picked me up. The driver stowed my bag in the back of the Mercedes Sprinter. The ride to the Radisson Airport Hotel took just a few minutes.

I chose this hotel, because I’ve been to a Radisson in Wiesbaden/Germany before, which was very pleasant. Furthermore the Hotel is located at the airport and my return would be in the early next morning and I didn’t want to get up at an early hour for a long ride to the airport.
And in my opinion it’s always interesting to stay in an Airport Hotel, because in the evening at the bar I often meet interesting people from all over the world.

I entered the lobby and checked in. I got my door card and took the lift to the top (5th) floor. My room was booked on the Radisson website. They asked for additional wishes and I wished a room with airport or runway view. But when I reached my room I knew, that it was to the other side. The view out of the dirty windows was to the seaside, which wasn’t bad either. Here are some pics of the hotel room. It was ok, but for a 4 star hotel and from this brand I would expect something different.
The room:
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No comment:
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Battered and overaged furniture:
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Crumpled curtains:
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The view:
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The bathroom:
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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/StefanPAD/Dublin/DUB48.jpg

Ironing board:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/StefanPAD/Dublin/DUB49.jpg

After a refreshment I went down into the restaurant. I chose pasta with a tomato-pesto, but the meal was below average. After the meal I changed to the bar, where already some people were sitting. Later I chatted with a native Scotsman who lives in Australia now and two young girls from Austria, who drove arround Ireland by car and had their last night in DUB before flying back to Austria. It was a nice and funny night with several beers for all of us  Smile .

Conclusion:
LH did a good job again, all flights on time. Mealservice… well, we all know there is OS or maybe some other carriers. But it tasted good for that short flight I don’t make a big fuss. The crew in economy was friendly. The purser, who served the C pax, was friendly as well. Perhaps sometimes it helps, when you see a serious LH f/a and give him/her a smile.

Radisson Airport Hotel at DUB: Well, not what I expected. Nevertheless the night at the bar made it up. Let’s see, next weekend I will stay at MAN Radisson Airport Hotel. If it fails, maybe I will change to another brand. Anybody out there, who made experiences with Radisson Hotels?

That was part 1. The return flight will be posted in a separated report. Questions and comments are desired as always.

Cheers,
Stefan
 
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Wed May 27, 2009 8:52 pm

Thanks for the nice TR and photos. Hope you enjoyed your "short" stay in Dublin.

The Dublin Airport Radisson Hotel is NOT good in my opinion either. It's not a Radisson built hotel and as far as I know it has changed hands a number of times, and only relatively recently joined the Radisson group. When needing an airport hotel at DUB, I much prefer the Carlton Dublin Airport... it's quiet, much more modern, does have rooms with excellent views parallel to the runway and a selection of restaurants, including a roof-top panoramic one with 360° views of Dublin city, DUB, the surrounding area, sea and mountains. The Crowne Plaza at Dublin Airport is also excellent, albeit a wee bit further away.
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Thu May 28, 2009 12:29 am

Hi Stefan
Nice trip report, always have to read a TR when DUB is involved. Looking forward to the return report, was over @ DUB that morning. Thanks for posting.
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Thu May 28, 2009 8:38 am

Great trip report! Thanx for that.

In Wiesbaden, I really recommend staying in the Dorint Hotel (quite near to the main train station). Superb hotel!  Smile
And the prices are quite equal to the Radisson.

http://hotel-wiesbaden.dorint.com/
 
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Thu May 28, 2009 8:52 am

Hi Stefan,

very nice report on one of my favorite carriers!
Service is as to be expected from LH, decent but not special.
Also some nice pictures of FRA, my favorite airport Big grin

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
This aircraft was delivered to LH Cityline on Oct. 27th 1998 as a CRJ-100LR. I’m a bit confused about the type, because nowadays they are called CRJ-200LR. I don’t know the difference from a 100/200 and LR/ER. Is there anybody out there who can answer this question?

I believe this had something to do with an engine upgrade. All LH CR1's are updated to CR2 since a couple of years.

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
Perhaps we Germans are only looking a bit grimly sometimes.

I think this is true. Most Germans I know, and I know quite some, are very nice and friendly. Even the grimly looking Germans are very friendly. Some people however are a bit more conservative in their approach to strangers. Actually I like Germans a lot just as I love the country itself.

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
Radisson Airport Hotel at DUB: Well, not what I expected.

Radisson Airport hotel DUB is on my blacklist now. This is not good for such a brand.l
You expect and pay for quality, but I have seen Ibis hotels which look better than this!

Thanks for sharing your report, and I'm looking forward to the return trip!
Viele Grüsse,

Joost (D-ALCE)
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Thu May 28, 2009 1:15 pm

Hi Stefan,

Nice report and pictures, thanks for sharing.

LH catering is not that great, though I did get a reasonable meal in Y from FRA to ATH a few months back.

The hotel looks quite shabby, certainly not what you expect from a 4*!

Look forward to the return.

Regards

Mark
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Thu May 28, 2009 6:16 pm

Hi @ all,

thanks for all your replies and comments.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 1):
Hope you enjoyed your "short" stay in Dublin.

Yes, apart from the weather  Wink

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 1):
It's not a Radisson built hotel and as far as I know it has changed hands a number of times, and only relatively recently joined the Radisson group. When needing an airport hotel at DUB, I much prefer the Carlton Dublin Airport...

I heard about that at tripadvisor and that many prefer the Carlton. Next time I'd try another hotel.

Quoting EICVD (Reply 2):
Nice trip report

Thank you!

Quoting Andie007 (Reply 3):
In Wiesbaden, I really recommend staying in the Dorint Hotel (quite near to the main train station). Superb hotel!

Indeed it looks very nice. And not too far away from Taunusstr., where I have to go when staying in Wiesbaden.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
very nice report

Hi Joost! Thank you!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
Also some nice pictures of FRA, my favorite airport

I love this airport, too.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
I believe this had something to do with an engine upgrade.

I see.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
Actually I like Germans a lot just as I love the country itself.

Oh, thank you. But I love the Netherlands as well.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
You expect and pay for quality, but I have seen Ibis hotels which look better than this!

For sure, e. g. the Ibis Airport Hotel at Schiphol/Badhoevedorp.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):
Nice report and pictures

Thank you, Mark!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):
The hotel looks quite shabby, certainly not what you expect from a 4*!

Definitely not!

Cheers,
Stefan
 
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Thu May 28, 2009 6:39 pm

Hi, Stefan,

I know from your planned trip to DUB.
Time goes by and nowits online.
Well done, a real interesting story.
Nice pictures, a shame that LH cancelled the FRA connection.
How long is it by ICE from PAD to FRA?.

Regards,
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Fri May 29, 2009 2:01 pm

Hi Stefan,

Nice report, thanks for posting.

Like EICVD said, it's always nice to read a trip report featuring your home airport.

I haven't had a landing on Runway 16 for a while, usually it's 28 or 10. If seated on the left side, Runway 28 certainly does give nice views of the bay and city, but the best views of the city are to be had on the rare approaches to Runway 34, again sitting left side.

Sorry to hear about the Radisson being in such poor shape. The Carlton is popular, but Bewleys hotel near the airport is quite good and usually relatively cheap.

Enjoy your stay at the Radisson at MAN. That one is very conveniently located, but I haven't had much luck with runway views. I stay at various Radissons from time to time and have never had any issues. As Toulouse mentioned, the hotel at DUB is not Radisson built, but rather a refurbished Great Southern Hotel. That may have something to do with the quality and upkeep.

Thanks again, looking forward to Part 2!
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Sat May 30, 2009 11:00 am

Hi Stefan,

interesting report with nice pictures!

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
Because of that the captain and the purser were soccer fans and this Saturday afternoon were several important games in the German soccer league, they informed us three times about the current scores.

Good service!

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
This architecture is not made for photographers:

And the windows in the gate area were very dirty when I passed through DUB in March.

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
Mealservice… well, we all know there is OS or maybe some other carriers.

Let's wait and see what happens to OS' catering. At least LH still offers sandwiches on flights to the UK and Ireland. Just got a muesli bar on BA recently.

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
Anybody out there, who made experiences with Radisson Hotels?

I stayed at the Radisson JFK and the Radisson Westside Los Angeles - both were ok, but I wasn't impressed.

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
Perhaps we Germans are only looking a bit grimly sometimes.

Yes, I guess that's it.


PH
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Sun May 31, 2009 6:36 pm

Hi, Stefan,

a nice read. Finally got the time to look into this one...

LH still has a good product, and very competitive fares usually. So they are mostly my airline of choice in Europe nowadays.

And a nice welcome to Ireland, never knew that German crews would be that funny on the interphone to the pax  Wink

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
It was ok, but for a 4 star hotel and from this brand I would expect something different.

That's really bad! I would immidiately write a complaint to Radisson. I've seen Radisson before, which were below average (e.g. Arlanda Airport Hotel), but this one is just 3 stars max.
Anyway, that might also be 'Ireland' style  Silly

Regards,
Eric
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Sun May 31, 2009 8:11 pm



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 10):
Anyway, that might also be 'Ireland' style

Not at all, don't worry! I find your average 4* hotel in Ireland to be generally superior to equivalent hotels in many European countries, namely the UK, France (very much hit and miss), Italy (standard tends to be dire unless in top class hotels) and even... Switzerland (yes, much to my surprise, and in my favourite country, I've stayed in 4* hotels that could have been 5* and other that could have been 2* -albeit the prices).
Anyone ever noticed that 4* hotels in Spain tend to be of excellent quality at very reasonable prices?
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:20 pm

Hello again, thanks for your latest replies.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
Well done, a real interesting story.

Hello Markus, thank you!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
a shame that LH cancelled the FRA connection.

Yes, indeed. Yesterday I was in FRA again and asked the lady at the gate desk, when the service to PAD will start again. She didn't know but said I should wait for the winter schedule.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
How long is it by ICE from PAD to FRA?.

3 to 4 hours. I tried it when I lived in Mainz, but the connection time at Cologne is only 10 minutes and my train had often a longer delay, so I had to add another hour waiting time  Sad Therefore I started to fly from FRA to PAD which took half an hour. At this time I worked at FRA and it was very comfortable to check in at work and fly after work  Smile . Nowadays I would have to accept the MUC transfer.

Quoting EIDAA (Reply 8):
Nice report, thanks for posting.

Thank you!

Quoting EIDAA (Reply 8):
Enjoy your stay at the Radisson at MAN. That one is very conveniently located,

I returned from MAN yesterday. The Radisson was very nice this time. A TR will follow.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
interesting report with nice pictures!

Thank you, PH

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
At least LH still offers sandwiches on flights to the UK and Ireland. Just got a muesli bar on BA recently.

Seems like the LH service is better than on BA now. I will fly BA in 3 weeks HAM-LHR-JFK and back. Let's see what will happen.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
I stayed at the Radisson JFK and the Radisson Westside Los Angeles - both were ok, but I wasn't impressed.

Interesting to know. I saw another Radisson in Midtown Manhattan in January this year. Maybe I will give it a try someday, but Manhattan is full of other great hotels.


Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 10):
a nice read.

Hi Eric, thank you!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 10):
and very competitive fares usually

I think only for guests from foreign countries. Here in Germany the LH fares are higher  Sad

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 10):
And a nice welcome to Ireland, never knew that German crews would be that funny on the interphone to the pax

Yes, I was amused as well. But I had some funny crews before on LH. So, LH crews are not every time so unfriendly as described in some reports here.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 10):
That's really bad! I would immidiately write a complaint to Radisson.

I read some complains on tripadvisor about this hotel, which were answered by the hotel manager. So I'd know the answer already.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 10):
Anyway, that might also be 'Ireland' style

 Big grin No, I have been to Ireland before and had some very nice hotels

Thanks again for your replies and comments.

Cheers,
Stefan
 
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:18 pm

Hi Stefan,

very nice report about your short trip to Ireland and some great pictures.

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
What a pity that LH doesn't have screens on their medium fleet.

Yes, indeed, especially as the A320/321-fleet is also used on longer flights to the Middle East and North Africa.

Quoting StefanPAD (Thread starter):
LH did a good job again, all flights on time. Mealservice... well, we all know there is OS or maybe some other carriers. But it tasted good for that short flight I don't make a big fuss.

I agree, meal service isn't great on short LH-flights, but as you say it's still all right. On the other side, food on LH is above average on longer European flights (I think it starts at a flight time of about 2.5 hours or longer, where you still get a hot meal).

Regards
Christoph
 
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:06 am

Helllo Stefan,
very nice report!
I talked to the ramp agent during a recent turn around why PAD-FRA would be suspended and he said it was due to light loads.Most of the time when I fly this route its only between 10-20 Pax(your flight must have had a pretty unusal load in C).Also more and more -200s are leaving the fleet and I think only CRJ700s will based in FRA in the future (along with some EMB190/95).
As to the 100/200 difference it was mentioned before that the it is only a difference in engine type.With a change to an upgraded engine a -100 simply became a -200.

Safe flights
CptRegionalJet
 
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RE: LH PAD-FRA-DUB Part 1

Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:08 am



Quoting Contact Air (Reply 13):
very nice report about your short trip to Ireland and some great pictures.

Thank you Christoph!

Quoting CptRegionalJet (Reply 14):
very nice report!

Thank you!

Quoting CptRegionalJet (Reply 14):
I talked to the ramp agent during a recent turn around why PAD-FRA would be suspended and he said it was due to light loads.Most of the time when I fly this route its only between 10-20 Pax(your flight must have had a pretty unusal load in C).Also more and more -200s are leaving the fleet and I think only CRJ700s will based in FRA in the future (along with some EMB190/95).

Let's see what the winter schedule will offer. Or if the PAD-AMS connection will revive.

Quoting CptRegionalJet (Reply 14):
As to the 100/200 difference it was mentioned before that the it is only a difference in engine type.With a change to an upgraded engine a -100 simply became a -200.

Thanks for info! BTW, do you often fly on the FRA-PAD route? I'm going to fly this route again on 20./21. June.

Thanks again for your replies.

Cheers,
Stefan

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