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The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:56 pm

The one and only lav inop: VCE on the E135



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Ciao, dear readers,

collecting another new plane type isn´t that bad, or not?.
The Embraer E 135 comes to my mind, the AFAIK smallest jet airliner in commercial airline service nowadays.
And after some more "lonely nights at the laptop" there was another daytrip possible.
Ok, some three weeks after arriving back from Hungary:
The Tiny Budapest Air Service Embraer 120 To ZAG (by FLIEGER67 Nov 3 2009 in Trip Reports)

I was ready
to log the E135.







Wednesday, 14.10.2009

Wet, Temperature 3 degrees

Clear sky, Temperature 5 degrees
Duration: No announcement, 55 minutes actual

Service Air France AF 5581 operated by Regional
Scheduled: 06.40 // 07.50
Actual: 07.10 // 08.05
Gate: 312 Seat: 14A
Load factor: Around 50%


Well, booking a oneway ticket on that typical high fare biz route is impossible, also a return with different dates was more than 250.-- Euros.
So, the decision was quickly done to grab some Flying Blue miles, actual 12.500 and book the first two legs together.
With some 80,-- Euros taxes beside an acceptable fare.
Check in was done the usual style, online from my laptop without any problems and also the scheduled seatmaps opened up.
By car to the airport, very early, boarding was announced for 06.10 am.
Arrived at around 5.30 am, good ontime.
With one of the three counters not occupied by other pax, I´ve decided to change my self printed boardings to some real stuff.
The lady was not in the best mood and I had to explain it for three times, but finally she does it and I was on the way passing security and checking the gate.
A bus gate as expected.

Pretty early at the airport:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902001.jpg

The empty AF gate usually used for CDG services:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902002.jpg

Boarding time comes an goes, no announcement, but I was near the gate and followed the phone discussion between gate and ramp agent.
There is only one lavatory at the E 135 and these one was inop.
The gate agents opinion was clearly to notice. AF should cancel that flight and check the plane, its impossible to fly with the inop lav.
The ramp agent was back again and told him that the pilot declared the plane airworthy and want to go ASAP.
So the gate agent does an announcement like this:
"Good morning all pax on AF to LYS. There is a minor technical problem with the plane, it is one lavatory on that machine and this is inoperable.
We will wait for ten more minutes, so that all pax had the chance to join the restroom at the airport.
If someone refuses to fly on that plane, please come forward to the gate".
With nearly all suites on that service, no one comes forward. And as announced ten minutes later boarding started.

Close up:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902003.jpg

The rear:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902004.jpg

Boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902006.jpg

F-GOHA waited on the apron.
The plane type wise warm welcomed Embraer 135, delivered at 10.04.2000 to Proteus and changed to Regional at 01.04.2001.
Regional operates actual 9 E135 machines and F-GOHA is the oldest and first delivered.
Premiere for me on that type.
The situation doesn´t improved, as soon as we had taken our seats, welcomed by a middle aged friendly female FA the french pilot was on the interkom, with
a short welcome and that the plane needs deicing. We had to wait for some 15 minutes till our deicing position will be free.
He was once more on the phone during deicing with detailed explanations around the whole situation.
Finally departure from the 3345 meters runway 07 in direction east of BSL and west of GVA, the flight itself calm, no flightlevel information.

Just departed:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902007.jpg

Engine view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902009.jpg

The cabin fitted with dark blue leather seats. Legroom ok, clean so far. Comfortable 1 / 2 seating.

Cabin:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902010.jpg

My seat:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902016.jpg

The actuial mag:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902008.jpg

Service was free coffee /tea/beverages and a small brioche.

GVA:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902012.jpg

Near LYS:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902011.jpg

One more information during approach into LYS around the weather and a friendly bye-bye. No comment from the FO.
Touchdown on the 2670 meters runway 36R.

Arrived at LYS:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902013.jpg

Taxi:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902014.jpg

Near the gate:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902015.jpg

The plane parked close to the gate entrance, the chance for a cockpit pic. No problem told me the FA and I´ve had a short chat with the guys upfront.
They confirmed that the E135 is the smallest jetliner around right now.

The office:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902017.jpg

Bye-Bye:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902018.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902019.jpg

25 minutes now for me at LYS, if there will be no issue with the next flight.









Wednesday, 14.10.2009

Clear sky, Temperature 8 degrees

Partly cloudy, Temperature 15 degrees
Duration: 1 hour announced
1 hour, 10 minutes actual

Service Air France AF 5562 operated by Regional
Scheduled: 09.00 // 10.20
Actual: 09.10 // 10.20
Gate: 24B Seat: 18A
Load factor: Around 90%


LYS has done several improvements recently, so the AF used terminal is comfortable and spacious, perfect for the smaller planes here.

Nice gate area:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902027.jpg

I´am also looking forward to this leg.
Scheduled on the new E70 plane.

The board:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902022.jpg

Details:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902023.jpg

My machine at the gate:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902020.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902024.jpg

Front view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902026.jpg

The other side:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902025.jpg

Reg. shot:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902028.jpg

F-GOHA taxi, it seems with that short turnaround again without lav:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902029.jpg

So it was. F-HBXF parked at the announced gate.
Delivered only at 19.08.2009 to Regional.
Leg no. 3 for me ontype and the first on that machine.
Boarding was called some minuted late, the plane parked directly at the gates door.

Boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902030.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902031.jpg

Two friendly female FA´s here. The cabin fitted with dark blue leather seats. Clean, the typical new plane smell, comfortbale, good legroom.

Seats:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902036.jpg

Cabin:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902037.jpg

My seat:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902041.jpg

Cockpit crew was also french here. The pilot with a short welcome during boarding, once more later during approach.
No comment from the FO.
Departure from the 4000 meters runway 36L. Remember my departure board picture.
AF operates wave style from LYS, so we´re no. 9 to takeoff in the morning rush. A real powerful takeoff followed.

Airlinair at departure:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902032.jpg

The route was above Torino and Milano, clear, but some shakers during approach. No flightlevel information.

Above the alps:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902033.jpg

Northern Italy:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902034.jpg

Service was the same like on the first leg, free water/coffee/tea and a brioche.

Approach:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902035.jpg

Close to VCE:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902038.jpg

Finals:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902039.jpg

Touchdown on the 3300 meters runway 04 R good ontime.

Just arrived:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902040.jpg

Disembarking:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902042.jpg

Apron shot:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902043.jpg

Detail:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902044.jpg

The apron again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902045.jpg

Once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902046.jpg

By bus to the terminal, italian style, the driver goes like he´s piloting a Ferrari not a bus!.
Quickly out in the public, I was for several times in Venice, but no incoming via VCE till now.
Its possible to go by the heavy expensive water taxi service to the city, also by Alilaguna´s scheduled boat service, or the cheapest way
by the ATVO bus to Mestre train station and further by train to Venice Santa Lucia, which was my way.

My engine at Venice Santa Lucia:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902047.jpg

I´ve done that before, its simply unbelievable that you leave the train and switch within seconds to another world with the Canale Grande directly infront the train station.
Let me show you some pic´s from that special city.

First view after leaving the train station:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902048.jpg

Canale Grande:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902053.jpg

Rialto:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902056.jpg

From above:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902057.jpg

Venice´s living room:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902060.jpg

The other side:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902063.jpg

And some "tower" hearby:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902064.jpg

Nice view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902071.jpg

Landside:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902069.jpg

The same way back in the afternoon.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/b/ba/TUIfly.com_Logo.svg/800px-TUIfly.com_Logo.svg.png


Wednesday, 14.10.2009

Partly cloudy, Temperature 14 degrees

Cloudy, Temperature 5 degrees
Duration: 55 minutes announced
1 hour actual

Service X3 3495 operated by TuiFly
Scheduled: 17.55 // 19.05
Actual: 17.50 // 18.50
Gate: 01 Seat: 27A
Load factor: Around 80%


Well, also here, loco fill´s the gap and after some searching I´ve secured the cheapest fare for that ride = EUR 29.--.
At first now some impressions from VCE airport, not that really large but spacious enough, on different levels with good places to relax and follow the action outside.
It´s actually no. 3 in Italy in terms of pax numbers.

Departures:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902078.jpg

Well designed:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902079.jpg

EK to DXB:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902076.jpg

Vueling and Windjet:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902080.jpg

Anyone remember Alpi Eagles?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902081.jpg

EK again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902082.jpg

Nice Meridiana MD:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902083.jpg

And once more EK:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902084.jpg

EK departure:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902085.jpg

Arrival Tarom:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902086.jpg

Vueling and Brussels Airlines:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902087.jpg

AirDolomiti:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902088.jpg

And the second AF flight from LYS:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902089.jpg

My plane arrived from STR well ontime. With several legs on X3 done, hopefully a new reg.
Bus boarding was called well ontime. And no luck today so it seems.

Arrival X3:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902090.jpg

Taxi:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902091.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902092.jpg

D-AHXB waited on the apron.
Delivered at 05.04.2007 to Tuifly and leg no. 3 for me on that machine, leg no. 23 ontype.

Under the winglet:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902094.jpg

Boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902095.jpg

Logo:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902096.jpg

Three friendly female FA´s on that machine.
The cabin fitted with fabric seats in mixed colours. Clean and significant lower legroom than on the E-Jets.

Seats:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902097.jpg

Cabin:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902110.jpg

The mag:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902111.jpg

To the runway:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902098.jpg

On the run:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902099.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902100.jpg

Departure from runway 04R like arrivals in direction Salzburg and Innsbruck, a calm flight. No flightlevel info.

Above the coastline:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902101.jpg

Closer to Venice:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902102.jpg

Venice from above:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902103.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902104.jpg

Through the clouds:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902105.jpg

Santa Lucia station:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902106.jpg

The route:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I0902/I0902109.jpg

Service was buy on board.
Cockpit crew was from Germany, the female captain with real detailed informations in a friendly style during cruise around route and weather.
Touchdown on STR´s runway 07 good ontime and by bus to the terminal.
Only some minutes later on the way back home.

So, the E135 is a tiny machine, not the best first impression with that lav issues, but nevertheless good to fly it again soon.
And when you also dont need it, it´s always good to know that there is a lav available.
Also the E170, one of my favourite planes nowadays, comfortable.
And what about X3, that was probably my last flight here with the city routes going to airberlin shortly.
Friendly staff, good fare, ok so far.

And further: Explore the Emirates on a widebodie compilation Qatar style!.

Comments welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67)
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:14 pm

OMG, a dream flight with Embraer!  Wow!

Thank you very much for sharing this experience, Markus! Embraer is still appearing on my wish-list. I hope I can fly this beauty soon!

I like the airport logo's on your TR! Really original!  Smile
And certainly look forward to your experience with QR!

Cheers,
Suryo
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:33 pm

Hi Markus,

very interesting report with nice pictures from Venice. The ERJ135 is still missing in my log, not easy to get.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
25 minutes now for me at LYS, if there will be no issue with the next flight.

That's a really tight connection. Have you ever missed a flight because of that?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And when you also dont need it, it´s always good to know that there is a lav available.

Yes, it's always good to know it's there.


PH
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:46 pm

Hallo Markus,

Thanks for this report about a nice little daytrip. Those pictures of Venice were good - I've always regarded that place as too touristic for me, but maybe I should change my mind and give it a try.

Also congrats on the E135 - I had somehow thought that I'd logged a lot of segments on it but I checked my log and found only one - a CF bird. There are a few more on the 145, though. I guess to complete the series I'd need still to log a 140, but that's only possible with American Eagle...

The Venice airport looks very busy, I never thought there's so much traffic there.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Vueling and Windjet:

Oh yes, I remember Windjet very well. Not my favorite airline, definitely. Although I do owe them a thank you for pushing the fares down on some domestic Italian routes which I booked for next year (but not on them!).

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
EK to DXB:

Never new Emirates flew to Venice. Live and learn.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Northern Italy:

I was trying to nail that airport down, but couldn't really. My top choices are BGY and VRN, but it doesn't look right judging from the Google Maps satellite image. Can anyone shed any light?

Anyway looking forward for the DXB trip.
 
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:49 pm

Hi Markus,

Very nice report once again. Congratulations to your first Emb135-flight - a really rare type of aircraft indeed. I know that Emb135 as well as Emb145 are used on STR-LYS by Air France. So did you really know in advance that it would be an Emb135 on your particular flight? It would have been a pity ending up on an Emb145 instead...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´ve done that before, its simply unbelievable that you leave the train and switch within seconds to another world with the Canale Grande directly infront the train station.

I can only agree - getting into the City of Venice is always amazing, no matter if you arrive by train, bus or boat. And the city is much nicer in autumn or winter than in summer when there are masses of tourists around.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
It´s actually no. 3 in Italy in terms of pax numbers.

Interesting fact - I didn't know that. I had expected it might have been NAP or TRN.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Venice from above:

Fantastic view!

Regards
Christoph
 
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:49 pm



Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
I was trying to nail that airport down, but couldn't really. My top choices are BGY and VRN, but it doesn't look right judging from the Google Maps satellite image. Can anyone shed any light?

Oh, now I got it. It's actually TRN - I thought you'd be flying a more northernly route.
 
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:07 pm

Hi Markus,
once again congrats with this good routing. The Emb170 is for sure a nice one, good picture above the Alps!
Emb135; flown this myself on AF-Regional too, CFE-AMS. It was not my most comfortable experience, a bit shaky all ride long, but nevertheless I enjoyed it.

Regards,
Eric
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:07 pm

Hi Markus,
Once again another interesting TR (but then again this is what we expect from you  Big grin )!
Are there any airliners left on your "to do" list?
Is the Lyon service always a ERJ135 or does it depend on loadings?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Northern Italy:

Any idea's on the airport in the picture?

It's so sad to see the Alpi Eagles Fk100's & the MyAir CRJ's parked up. Were all the Fk100's parked up there or have some already departed for new homes?
The Tuifly seats are certainly different in their livery, I think "acquired taste" is probably the kindest way to describe them!!

Dave(SAAB900).
 
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:15 pm

Hi Markus,

Another real interesting routing with a great choice of airplanes!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
collecting another new plane type isn´t that bad, or not?.
The Embraer E 135 comes to my mind, the AFAIK smallest jet airliner in commercial airline service nowadays

- Yep, still missing the 135 myself!!!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
F-GOHA taxi, it seems with that short turnaround again without lav:

- Just how many flights is that bird going to have with an inop toilet?

Did Mrs FLIEGER67 know you were off to VCE? - If I went, I think Mrds BA319131 would want to come.

Looking forward to your QR expereince, I have 4 flights booked with them next year!

Best Wishes

Mark
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:55 pm

Another good report thanks.
 
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:37 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"Good morning all pax on AF to LYS. There is a minor technical problem with the plane, it is one lavatory on that machine and this is inoperable.
We will wait for ten more minutes, so that all pax had the chance to join the restroom at the airport.



LUV IT! Last time I heard this was on a 2:20hrs flight from HAM to PMI on germanwings- all 3 lavs were down.  Embarrassment
 
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:01 pm

Hey, good to follow all that comments.

@Suryo:

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 1):
Thank you very much for sharing this experience, Markus! Embraer is still appearing on my wish-list. I hope I can fly this beauty soon!

Thank you.

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 1):
I like the airport logo's on your TR! Really original!
And certainly look forward to your experience with QR!

More thanx and the QR story is ready to finish here.

@PH:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
very interesting report with nice pictures from Venice. The ERJ135 is still missing in my log, not easy to get.

Thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
That's a really tight connection. Have you ever missed a flight because of that?

Yes, but thankfully only on very limited occasions.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Yes, it's always good to know it's there.

A 100% agreement.

@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
Thanks for this report about a nice little daytrip. Those pictures of Venice were good - I've always regarded that place as too touristic for me, but maybe I should change my mind and give it a try.

Thank you and VCE during tourist season, no way for me, but in late autumn or winter
it´s a recommendable target.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
I guess to complete the series I'd need still to log a 140, but that's only possible with American Eagle...

Hey, good idea, me too.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
The Venice airport looks very busy, I never thought there's so much traffic there.

Also, here too.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
Oh yes, I remember Windjet very well. Not my favorite airline, definitely. Although I do owe them a thank you for pushing the fares down on some domestic Italian routes which I booked for next year (but not on them!).

I´am looking for that stories, you know.

@Christoph:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 4):
Very nice report once again. Congratulations to your first Emb135-flight - a really rare type of aircraft indeed. I know that Emb135 as well as Emb145 are used on STR-LYS by Air France. So did you really know in advance that it would be an Emb135 on your particular flight? It would have been a pity ending up on an Emb145 instead...

Thank you and indeed, the flight was shifted several times between the E145 and the E135.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 4):
I can only agree - getting into the City of Venice is always amazing, no matter if you arrive by train, bus or boat. And the city is much nicer in autumn or winter than in summer when there are masses of tourists around.

Absolutely my opinion.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 4):
Fantastic view!

Thank you.

@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Oh, now I got it. It's actually TRN - I thought you'd be flying a more northernly route

Thank you for checking it finally.

@Eric:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 6):
once again congrats with this good routing. The Emb170 is for sure a nice one, good picture above the Alps!
Emb135; flown this myself on AF-Regional too, CFE-AMS. It was not my most comfortable experience, a bit shaky all ride long, but nevertheless I enjoyed it.

Thank you and also here not the most comfortable ride.

@Dave:

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 7):
Once again another interesting TR

Thank you.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 7):
Are there any airliners left on your "to do" list?

For sure, a lof of targets to go.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 7):
Is the Lyon service always a ERJ135 or does it depend on loadings?

The flight was shifted between the E135 and the E145 according to the loads.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 7):
It's so sad to see the Alpi Eagles Fk100's & the MyAir CRJ's parked up. Were all the Fk100's parked up there or have some already departed for new homes?

No idea, but also in Bari during my latest ride I saw both airlines parked.

@Mark:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Another real interesting routing with a great choice of airplanes!

Thank you.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
- Just how many flights is that bird going to have with an inop toilet?

It seems more than we know.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Did Mrs FLIEGER67 know you were off to VCE? - If I went, I think Mrds BA319131 would want to come.

Well, Mrs. Flieger is always well informed.
But a daytrip, no way to go together.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Looking forward to your QR expereince, I have 4 flights booked with them next year!

Hey, good to know.

@Andrew:

Quoting Shamrock321 (Reply 9):
Another good report thanks.

Thank you.

@Debonair:

Quoting Debonair (Reply 10):
LUV IT! Last time I heard this was on a 2:20hrs flight from HAM to PMI on germanwings- all 3 lavs were down.

Interesting, 2.20 hrs on a typical PMI ride without lav, that sounds like great fun in the plane.

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:35 pm

Hi Markus!

Great report with fantastic pistures of Venice! I was there 20 years ago but it still looks the same, amazing city.

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:50 am

Hi Markus,
Very nice report . Love the E170 the best , its one of my favourite A/C as you know. I need to get some more flights under my belt on it.

Nice photos of Venice also.

Regards

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:07 pm

Hey, Lars and Phil
and thanx for you´re replies.

@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Great report with fantastic pistures of Venice! I was there 20 years ago but it still looks the same, amazing city.

Maybe time to go again?.

@Phil:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Love the E170 the best , its one of my favourite A/C as you know. I need to get some more flights under my belt on it.

Here too, from the newer types actually my favourite.

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:43 pm

Hi Markus,

Another successful trip for your log. It was a good job you could use your miles for the AF legs, fares of 250E are just crazy.

An unusal story with the inop toilet! It's not something you read about everyday, yet I think the solution was fair to all involved. Glad you were able to catch the rare E135 - although i think soon you'll have flown most of the aircraft types flying around Europe at present!!

Venice certainly is a special place. You had lovely weather and I liked your option of taking the train and not the boat into the centre. The pictures from above after take off are just stunning.

I too was somewhat surprised to see EK at VCE. Bet it was a nice sight.

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:45 am

Hi Markus
The Embraer E135 look so cute  Smile
And again great trip report!

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:15 pm

Hey, good to follow more comments.

@Hannah:

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):
Another successful trip for your log. It was a good job you could use your miles for the AF legs, fares of 250E are just crazy.

Thank you and the fare on that route is definitely too high.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):
An unusal story with the inop toilet! It's not something you read about everyday, yet I think the solution was fair to all involved. Glad you were able to catch the rare E135 - although i think soon you'll have flown most of the aircraft types flying around Europe at present!!

No way with the aircraft types, still a lot to do!.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):
Venice certainly is a special place. You had lovely weather and I liked your option of taking the train and not the boat into the centre. The pictures from above after take off are just stunning.

Venice with nice weather and not that much tourists, for sure a good combination.

@Egil:

Quoting Egilsml (Reply 16):
The Embraer E135 look so cute
And again great trip report!

Thank you.

Greetings,
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:00 am

Great TR

Congrats on adding another type to your log. How many different types have you flown on?

Venice looks fantastic.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
No flightlevel info.

Doesn't X3 give that info on their drop down TVs?



Thank you for sharing

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:58 pm

Hi Markus,

again a nice TR from your hand. I've been to Venice 17 or 18 years ago by bus. I think I should refresh my memories and go there by plane someday.

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:45 pm

Hey, nice to follow more comments.

@Gabriel:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 18):
Great TR

Congrats on adding another type to your log. How many different types have you flown on?

Venice looks fantastic.

Thank you. I´ve never counted it this way, but I should do so, nevertheless a lot more to go.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 18):
Doesn't X3 give that info on their drop down TVs?

Well, the system shows the detail´s, but in this case, the map disappeared short after my picture and was switched to the boring vid stuff.


@ Stefan:

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 19):
again a nice TR from your hand. I've been to Venice 17 or 18 years ago by bus. I think I should refresh my memories and go there by plane someday.

Thank you. Recommendable during low season, no way during high season.

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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:20 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The Embraer E 135 comes to my mind, the AFAIK smallest jet airliner in commercial airline service nowadays.

Actually, it isn't. The Do328Jet is about 16 feet shorter, and the Yak 40 takes the prize at 66 feet long - 20 feet shorter than the ERJ-135.
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RE: The One And Only Lav Inop: VCE On The E135

Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:25 pm

@Chris:

Thanx a lot for your information.
While the Yak was in mind, but I wasn´t sure if it is still in scheduled pax service,
the FRJ is definitely a good target to correct my list.

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