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Leaving Tokyo In JAL Business Class To London

Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:30 pm

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GETTING TO THE AIRPORT

In Tokyo I spend my last night in Japan at the Century Southern Tower Hotel in Shinjuku, which is in walking distance of the railway station and actually overlooks the railway tracks.

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Shinjuku is a convenient location because it is one of the few stations in central Tokyo with a direct Narita Express service to the airport (the other stations are Tokyo Station, Shibuya and Shinagawa). Trains from Shinjuku are, however, less frequent than they are from Tokyo Station. The journey from Shinjuku to Narita takes approximately one hour and 25 minutes and costs 3110 Yen, including a seat reservation. There are also standing tickets available for when the Narita Express is fully booked, which cost 510 Yen less. Note though, that even if the train leaves with empty seats after all, holders of a standing ticket may not avail themselves of the empty seats. And the staff actually enforce this policy.

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CHECK-IN

The booking for this flight was made through the British Airways website, the flight was booked as a code-share service with a BA flight number. Subsequently I receive a notification on my BA app once check-in opens 23 hours prior to departure. All things considered though, this is rather pointless. Being only a BA code-share flight operated by JAL, I cannot check-in with my iPhone. Fortunately, I figured this might happen and made a quick phone call to BA once the ticket had been issued to select a seat.

JAL and their Oneworld partners call Narita’s Terminal 2 home. The check-in counters for JAL Business Class are on row K.

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Oneworld status card holders may also check-in at the JAL Global Club counters on row L. The queue there is shorter...

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There is a dedicated Fast Track for Business Class passengers.

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LOUNGE

The southern JAL Sakura lounge is situated near gate 61 and spreads over two floors. Access to the lounge is on the upper level. This is also where JAL has a ‘dining bar’ with restaurant style seating that serves hot and cold dishes. The lounging area is one floor down.

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The lower floor is spacious, with comfortable seats and some really excellent views of the ramp and traffic arriving on runway 34 Right.

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By the way, since my last visit to Tokyo in August the monorail connecting the main terminal with the satellite has been replaced with a covered moving walkway.

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As far as food and drinks are concerned though, all you get on the lower level are Japanese crackers, sweet biscuits and drinks.

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All in all it’s a nice lounge, but strangely it has the feel and vibe of a hotel lobby…

BOARDING

Boarding is scheduled to start at 11:15 for the 11:45 departure. But there appears to be some hold up today while they finish preparing the cabin, so the gate agent makes an announcement to apologize for the ensuing delay.

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Eventually, at 11:18 – I check the time – boarding begins with a staggering, unforgivable delay of three minutes. As one of the gate agents makes his announcement that boarding has commenced, the others (yes, there is a total of four agents processing this flight) bow politely.

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We push back more or less on time. Once the tug has been disconnected and the gear pin removed, the three ground staff who pushed us back give us a nice send off – first the bow and then the wave. It’ just so sophisticated.

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There’s quite a queue for departure today, but it moves quickly and once the Thai Airbus A340-600 ahead of us has finally, miraculously managed to get off the ground, it’s our turn.

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CABIN

The main Business Class cabin on the JAL Boeing B 777-300ER is located right behind the L2 door. There is a further, single row of Business Class located forward of the L2 door, right behind the First Class cabin. The total number of seats in Business Class is 49 on this bird, with seven seats in the forward cabin and 42 in the main cabin.

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The seat is very comfortable and spacious. JAL has obviously also put a lot of effort into making the seat as private as possible:
  • The partitions between seats are quite high. In fact, if you’re sitting by the window you are barely visible from the aisle.

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  • There is a divider between seats as well. Although to be honest I’m not quite sure about the etiquette and protocol regarding this matter. Do I just raise the divider? Should I ask the lady on the aisle seat first? Should I wait for her to make the first move? Fortunately, the lady on the aisle seat is Japanese, so I figure any affront committed on my part could easily be put down to a cultural misunderstanding. So I push the divider to raise the divider, to which the lady nods and says ‘origato’, thank you.

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  • The seats are also slightly staggered.


One thing worth noting is that there is slightly less storage space on the window seats. All the other seats have a small alcove in the side of the seat in which to place small items like a book or a Mac Book Air during the flight. However, this is not the case on the window seats. Personally though, this is just a minor issue. The seat’s strong selling points really are the privacy and direct access to the aisle for every passenger.

IFE

To navigate your way through the IFE, there is a remote control with a large touch screen, which also functions as a track pad to move the arrow around the big screen. Tapping once on the respective icon selects the medium of choice. Theoretically you can also use the remote control to order food throughout the flight, once the main meal service has been completed. On both the outbound and the inbound though, this feature was inoperative.

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The selection of films is somewhat limited and dated (The Devil Wears Prada, Charlie And The Chocolate Factory – need I say more?).

SERVICE

JAL provides every passenger with a thin duvet style blanket and a Tempur pillow, which adjusts to the shape of the head to support the neck. It’s an extremely comfortable pillow. There is also a futon available for every passenger. Slippers are also provided.

JAL does not provide vanity kits in Business Class. But the crew pass through the cabin with a selection of eye shades, ear plugs, dental kits and facial masks during the flight.

A peculiarity of Japanese carriers is the provision of cardigans in Business Class, which are normally distributed before departure. JAL will even allow you to keep the cardigan, whereas ANA actually asks for it back at the end of the flight. In case you were wondering, last year I ‘accidentally’ forgot to give my ANA cardigan back at the end of the flight. Once I got home and realised the mistake, I figured I might as well keep it and give it a good wash before using it again. If you chance to end up with an ANA cardigan too, whatever you do, just don’t wash it! By the time I took it out of the washing machine I think it would probably have been a tight fit even for a four-year old kid with a tremendously slender build! I have yet to experimented with the behaviour of the JAL cardigan in warm water.

THE MEAL

No drinks are served while the aircraft is on the ground. The welcome drink – orange juice or champagne – is served after take-off. This strikes me a bit odd, as shortly after the welcome drinks service, the meal service begins with an amuse bouche and a further drinks service.

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I go for the plum wine.

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There is a choice between a Japanese meal and a Western menu with two choices for the main course. Perhaps just a word of warning at this point: the Japanese food we get on flights to Japan originating in Europe is not quite the same as the Japanese food loaded on flight from Japan back to Europe. The European variety of Japanese is a bit less hardcore, shall we say. Furthermore, Japan Airlines’ take on Western cuisine places the emphasis on using delicacies with a decidedly French flavour. So all things considered, you may end up - like me on today’s flight - in a bit of a quandary. The idea of steamed anglerfish liver, more cod roe or more sashimi – all of which are part of the Japanese meal – isn’t that appealing to me.

Similarly, I’ve never been very fond of foie gras or duck confit – which are on the Western menu – either. Fortunately, JAL has an extensive selection of other meals on offer that you can order throughout the flight, once the main meal service is over, so as not to cause too much of a disruption.

And this is what I do on today’s flight. I just want something simple, so I go for the pasta in tomato sauce and a selection of Japanese cheese with bread. Both dishes are very tasty and hit the spot nicely.

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For dessert I have a delectable creation which is advertised on the menu as ‘Espuma of Coffee & Jean-Paul Hévin’s Macaron Miel‘in. And this really is absolutely divine! Essentially it’s a coffee flan with a base of crunchy biscuit and nuts. Inside the flan are hollow balls of chocolate filled with liquid coffee. On top of the flan is the macaron, which is filled with honey that oozes all over the place the moment you take a bite. And on top of the macaron is a thin sheet of chocolate. Heaven!

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I leave it here for the time being. I'm posting this just under three hours out of London. I shall upload the rest and finish this report after we land.

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Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:20 pm

Thanks for the return trip. You are at this point in holding pattern in East London. I do hope that the rest of the journey have been a good one.  
 
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Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:51 pm

For the second meal I decide to go with the onion and chicken curry with rice. For dessert I have a plate of fresh fruit.

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I spend the rest of the flight looking out the window and admiring that lovely wing and engine. I think I'm in love...!

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ARRIVAL

About 50 minutes out of London the captain comes on the blower to inform us that it’s quite windy in London and that we should expect quite some turbulence on the approach. He also says that we should be arriving in Heathrow at about 15h03. I’m a bit skeptical about this, mainly because by the time we make landfall somewhere over the Thames estuary, we’re still cruising at 25’000 feet. And indeed, eventually we end up doing three or four loops in a holding pattern over London City before we’re finally cleared for the approach.

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Whilst in the holding we even end up flying in formation with a British Airways A 321, a Germanwings A 319 and a PIA B 777-200. It’s quite impressive to watch really. Especially the British Airways A 321 seems so near.

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My first decent air to air picture...

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While we hold the cabin crew pass through the cabin offering cold green tea.

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When eventually we are cleared to land, we’re treated to a beautiful approach, right over the West End, with Big Ben, the Houses of Parliament and Buckingham Palace clearly visible.

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TRANSFER IN HEATHROW

JAL uses Terminal 3 in London Heathrow. Evidently British Airways have dramatically scaled back their operation over the Christmas and New Year period. My flight from Tokyo arrives in Heathrow at 15:30. Even so there are no more connections to Amsterdam today. So I shall be spending the night at the Heathrow Sofitel, which is connected to Terminal 5 via a footbridge. To access the footbridge walk to the north end of the terminal and take the last exit, where there is a lift taking you up to bridge level.

The most convenient way to transfer landside between terminals in Heathrow is to use the Heathrow Express, which is free for transferring passengers. The trains are sufficiently frequent and the journey between Heathrow Central and Heathrow Terminal 5 only takes about five minutes to complete.

You can also transfer airside between Terminals 3 and 5 by using the complimentary shuttle bus, even if you’re planning to exit in Terminal 5. This is the easier option because you won't have to walk so far. The shuttle will drop you off at arrivals in Terminal 5. From there you can either head one floor up to security and departures beyond, or you can simply queue up for immigration on the arrivals level.

All this doesn’t work in the opposite direction though.

MILEAGE

For this flight I collect 160 Avios and 15’555 tier points, but only as long as the flight is booked under the BA code-share. As a JAL flight I would only collect 14’000 tier points.
 
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Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:24 pm

Very nice trip report, with some great pictures - thanks for posting!

I think you have Avios and Tier Points around the wrong way - Avios (formerly Miles) was the 15,555 and you received 160 Tier Points .
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:31 am

Hi Genius12

Quoting Genius12 (Reply 3):
Very nice trip report, with some great pictures - thanks for posting!

Thanks, my pleasure.

Quoting Genius12 (Reply 3):
I think you have Avios and Tier Points around the wrong way - Avios (formerly Miles) was the 15,555 and you received 160 Tier Points .

Oops, thanks for that one too. I'm always confusing those two.

Cheers,
William
 
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:30 am

Hello William!

Very nice report with JAL and an impressive seat in J, too!

I am not a fan of curry, however, I would gladly sample your choice!

Thank you again for a wonderful series of reports connecting Japan!

Bon Voyage,

AirAfreak =]
 
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Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:58 pm

Hi AirAfreak

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the reports. And the curry really was lovely!

Cheers,
William
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:50 am

Hey William, great report there with a lot of fantastic photos.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Note though, that even if the train leaves with empty seats after all, holders of a standing ticket may not avail themselves of the empty seats. And the staff actually enforce this policy.

That is a unbelievable stupid policy. You really wonder what kind of moron came up with this...

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
As far as food and drinks are concerned though, all you get on the lower level are Japanese crackers, sweet biscuits and drinks.

Is food free on the upper level or do you have to pay per meal? This seems quite strange for a lounge, which is connected, but only offers food on one level.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
the three ground staff who pushed us back give us a nice send off – first the bow and then the wave.

Isn't that one of the great things about Japan? The culture, the behavior and respect are really appreciated by me.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
My first decent air to air picture...

Great! I love flying in holdings with other aircraft close by or even on a parallel course in the same holding.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
For the second meal I decide to go with the onion and chicken curry with rice. For dessert I have a plate of fresh fruit.

All the food looked great, wouldn't mind giving JAL a try. ^^


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Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:46 am

Hi William,

Another great report on JAL's nice J product. That suite looks very nice, cozy and personal, well done JAL!
The service also looks nice here, the items on the menu wouldn't have been to my liking either! Nice to see JAL has some other options which you can order  
You sure got into the typical holding pattern at Heathrow, nevertheless the views are nice and your air to air pictures beautiful!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
There are also standing tickets available for when the Narita Express is fully booked, which cost 510 Yen less. Note though, that even if the train leaves with empty seats after all, holders of a standing ticket may not avail themselves of the empty seats. And the staff actually enforce this policy.

hmm, that does sound a bit harsh although understandable!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Evidently British Airways have dramatically scaled back their operation over the Christmas and New Year period. My flight from Tokyo arrives in Heathrow at 15:30. Even so there are no more connections to Amsterdam today

Wow, really? No more flights to AMS after 15:30 (on BA)

cheers,

Brendan
 
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Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:29 am

Hi Carsten

Quoting CARST (Reply 7):
Hey William, great report there with a lot of fantastic photos.

Thank you.

Quoting CARST (Reply 7):
That is a unbelievable stupid policy. You really wonder what kind of moron came up with this...

Well, yeah. But at least it's fair. I think the Japanese are very correct in everything they do.

Quoting CARST (Reply 7):
Is food free on the upper level or do you have to pay per meal? This seems quite strange for a lounge, which is connected, but only offers food on one level.

Food and drinks are for free. I kind of liked the idea of a separate dining area. Made lounging area downstairs seem calm and relaxed.

Quoting CARST (Reply 7):
Isn't that one of the great things about Japan? The culture, the behavior and respect are really appreciated by me.

Yes, that's what I like about Japan too.

Quoting CARST (Reply 7):
Great! I love flying in holdings with other aircraft close by or even on a parallel course in the same holding.

So do I, although on this occasion the planes were so close I wasn't sure if I should be alarmed or not.

Quoting CARST (Reply 7):
All the food looked great, wouldn't mind giving JAL a try. ^^

Well, I can certainly recommend them.

Hi Brendan

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
The service also looks nice here, the items on the menu wouldn't have been to my liking either! Nice to see JAL has some other options which you can order

Am I right in assuming you're not a fish person then?

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
You sure got into the typical holding pattern at Heathrow, nevertheless the views are nice and your air to air pictures beautiful!

Well it was kind of cool, especially to see the aircraft with been holding with coming in behind us, once we were on the ground.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 8):
Wow, really? No more flights to AMS after 15:30 (on BA)

In fact I think I was rebooked about five times in between making the original booking on the website and eventually flying. Every time they'd rebook me for a later flight, that one would end up getting cancelled as well.

Thanks to you both for taking the time to comment.

Cheers,
William
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:43 am

Just found and read this trip report, very good! Thank you.

I've flown only once on a plane so far and that was a short trip from Bristol, England to Sofia, Bulgaria and back. Now that I'm in a well paid job and having just turned 21 last Sunday I'm planning to treat myself to something I've always wanted to do which is 2 weeks in Japan. I've been looking at flights and it's a decision of JAL or BA with JAL being the more appealing of the two. The current routing I have planned at the moment is LHR-HND, and a return of NRT-HEL-LHR, this way I get to fly a JAL 77W and 787, and also a BA A32x.

How did you find the over all experience with JAL? I won't lie I find myself a tad nervous as it's my first long haul flight and I'll be traveling with just a friend who's never flown long haul either.

Sorry for blabbering on!
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:45 pm

Nice report William, thanks for the good advice re: sweater washing!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The selection of films is somewhat limited and dated (The Devil Wears Prada, Charlie And The Chocolate Factory – need I say more?).

If they can't even get some up-to-date films, then IFE is not really worth having.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Furthermore, Japan Airlines’ take on Western cuisine places the emphasis on using delicacies with a decidedly French flavour. So all things considered, you may end up - like me on today’s flight - in a bit of a quandary. The idea of steamed anglerfish liver, more cod roe or more sashimi – all of which are part of the Japanese meal – isn’t that appealing to me.

NH is similar....Western = French. I'd have been stuck on those menu choices as well. Having said that, on my NRT-PVG flight, the Western choice was definitley very Chinese!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
For this flight I collect 160 Avios and 15’555 tier points, but only as long as the flight is booked under the BA code-share. As a JAL flight I would only collect 14’000 tier points.

Whoa! That must be lifetime gold, or something pretty close!
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:27 pm

Hi there

Quoting JoeyTaffy93 (Reply 10):
Just found and read this trip report, very good! Thank you.

Thanks, my pleasure.

Quoting JoeyTaffy93 (Reply 10):
I'm planning to treat myself to something I've always wanted to do which is 2 weeks in Japan.

Good choice! Japan is an easy country to travel around. It's very safe and the transport infrastructure is simply excellent. Just one thing though. I would recommend that you get yourself some literature on Japanese culture ahead of the trip. It won't prevent you from making one mistake after another, but at least it may save you from some of the more offensive stuff you can get up to as a foreigner in Japan if you're not familiar with their customs.

Quoting JoeyTaffy93 (Reply 10):
How did you find the over all experience with JAL? I won't lie I find myself a tad nervous as it's my first long haul flight and I'll be traveling with just a friend who's never flown long haul either.

I enjoyed JAL a lot. The experience is very Japanese, because most Japanese passengers tend to prefer JAL or ANA over BA, I think. Their planes are always in mint condition and very clean. The only drawback perhaps is that the IFE is somewhat limited in choice.

But apart form that, what's there to be nervous about? Just enjoy the ride on the mighty Triple Seven and the experience of visiting a new country and a different culture.

Hi Gabriel

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
Nice report William, thanks for the good advice re: sweater washing!

Pleasure, if only I'd known at the time...

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
If they can't even get some up-to-date films, then IFE is not really worth having.

That's true. I don't really mind as I rarely use the IFE on a plane. But on JAL even I was surprised by the limited selection.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
NH is similar....Western = French. I'd have been stuck on those menu choices as well. Having said that, on my NRT-PVG flight, the Western choice was definitley very Chinese!

Yes, I flew NH C Class to Frankfurt (two years ago I think) and the whole thing certainly had the same French vibe going on, which is okay although usually after I've been in Japan for a while I'm just gagging for something more familiar.

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

Cheers,
William
 
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:18 pm

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 12):
Good choice! Japan is an easy country to travel around. It's very safe and the transport infrastructure is simply excellent. Just one thing though. I would recommend that you get yourself some literature on Japanese culture ahead of the trip. It won't prevent you from making one mistake after another, but at least it may save you from some of the more offensive stuff you can get up to as a foreigner in Japan if you're not familiar with their customs.

Luckily my friend is quite up to speed in that area so hopefully we shan't cause any offense to anyone. I certainly want to make sure I avoid that.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 12):
I enjoyed JAL a lot. The experience is very Japanese, because most Japanese passengers tend to prefer JAL or ANA over BA, I think. Their planes are always in mint condition and very clean. The only drawback perhaps is that the IFE is somewhat limited in choice.

But apart form that, what's there to be nervous about? Just enjoy the ride on the mighty Triple Seven and the experience of visiting a new country and a different culture.

I can live with the IFE options I think as long as I can get on to WiFi.

You're right, no reason to be nervous. Just need to get out there and enjoy it and see the world.
 
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Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:46 pm

That Thai A346 sure is gorgeous. I've got to get on that beauty.
 
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Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:30 pm

Thanks for a very detailed report. Your reports are worth reading

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The southern JAL Sakura lounge is situated near gate 61 and spreads over two floors. Access to the lounge is on the upper level. This is also where JAL has a ‘dining bar’ with restaurant style seating that serves hot and cold dishes. The lounging area is one floor down.

The lounge does indeed look compelling.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The partitions between seats are quite high. In fact, if you’re sitting by the window you are barely visible from the aisle.

The interior looks a bit daft if you ask me

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
My first decent air to air picture...

Nice! I always enjoy the holding patterns when flying in to LHR as its always some interesting aircraft-movements to be spotted outside the window

Thanks again, looking forward to another report  
 
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:21 am

Hi invaders

Quoting invaders (Reply 15):
Thanks for a very detailed report. Your reports are worth reading

My pleasure. And thanks, glad you enjoyed the report.

Quoting invaders (Reply 15):
The lounge does indeed look compelling.

It's certainly a very unique lounge, but comfy enough.

Quoting invaders (Reply 15):
The interior looks a bit daft if you ask me

Admittedly, it may not look attractive, but it's certainly very private and comfortable.

Quoting invaders (Reply 15):
Nice! I always enjoy the holding patterns when flying in to LHR as its always some interesting aircraft-movements to be spotted outside the window

Heathrow is the best. I always prefer flying there to London City, even if the latter is smaller and quicker. But the traffic in Heathrow is just so cool.

Cheers,
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:05 pm

How fortunate to be able to take that excellent air-to-air shots! I really envy you!
Thanks for the excellent TR, I wonder if the so called suites of JAL can be too cramp and too tight? I personally do not like that kind of partition and would prefere a more airly space ambience in the cabin.
I enjoy reading this very much
 
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:29 pm

A very nice and well narrated trip report. Many thanks for sharing.
JAL Business class is very decent though the seat and partition design is maybe too privacy concerned IMO.
Did they give out the menus and amenity kit as well? Maybe I have missed the photos?

Just a quick question, I will be transfer at LHR from Qatar airways flight to AA (T4 to T3 and v.v)
I will be flying business class on both airlines and am holding Thai passport and may require visa to enter landside?
Would I be able to connect airside? I don't wanna mess with the Heathrow express and stuff. It's not fun for me.
Do you have any recommendation?

Many thanks once again.
NET-HKT
 
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Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:03 am

Yes, a nice report, thanks I've never flown JL. To me the J looks like office cubicles, devoid of all personality.
 
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Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:51 am

Hi celestar

Quoting celestar (Reply 17):
How fortunate to be able to take that excellent air-to-air shots! I really envy you!

That was rather cool, although I must confess I was slightly alarmed at the time.

Quoting celestar (Reply 17):
Thanks for the excellent TR,

My pleasure.

Quoting celestar (Reply 17):
I wonder if the so called suites of JAL can be too cramp and too tight? I personally do not like that kind of partition and would prefere a more airly space ambience in the cabin.

Perhaps the pictures don't do the seat justice. It's quite nice and spacious. But I agree, it does look a bit cramped as you enter the cabin.

Quoting celestar (Reply 17):
I enjoy reading this very much

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the report.

Hi nethkt

Quoting nethkt (Reply 18):
A very nice and well narrated trip report. Many thanks for sharing.

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting nethkt (Reply 18):
Did they give out the menus and amenity kit as well? Maybe I have missed the photos?

Menus were distributed but no amenity kit. However, the crew came through the cabin with small baskets with all sorts of amenities.

Quoting nethkt (Reply 18):
Just a quick question, I will be transfer at LHR from Qatar airways flight to AA (T4 to T3 and v.v)
I will be flying business class on both airlines and am holding Thai passport and may require visa to enter landside?
Would I be able to connect airside? I don't wanna mess with the Heathrow express and stuff. It's not fun for me.
Do you have any recommendation?

You can connect airside, even if you're not holding your boarding pass for the onward connection. You can do that when you reach the terminal. However, that won't work if you've got checked luggage.

Hi Pellegrine

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 19):
Yes, a nice report, thanks I've never flown JL. To me the J looks like office cubicles, devoid of all personality.

Thank you. You don't have a cubicle feel when you're in the seat, but the cabin does look a bit like an open office when you're standing in it.

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to comment.

Cheers,
William
 
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RE: Leaving Tokyo In JAL Business Class To London

Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:19 am

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 20):
You can connect airside, even if you're not holding your boarding pass for the onward connection. You can do that when you reach the terminal. However, that won't work if you've got checked luggage.

Thank you for the quick answer. My luggage will be through checked from BKK(-DOH-LHR-ORD).
So I think I can do airside transit and check-in at AA transit counter T3? And show the agent my luggage tags upon check-in?

Brgds,
NET-HKT
 
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RE: Leaving Tokyo In JAL Business Class To London

Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:10 pm

Hi NET-HKT

Quoting nethkt (Reply 21):
So I think I can do airside transit and check-in at AA transit counter T3? And show the agent my luggage tags upon check-in?

Yes, if your luggage is checked through to the final destination you can just transfer airside to T3 and get the boarding pass there. And even if the counters aren't open yet you still have access to the transit area with the shops and all.

Cheers,
William

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