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#2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:54 pm

#2, Lufthansa First Class Minsk to Buenos Aires



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Hello!

Welcome to a part two of my trip to Belarus and Latin America. This report covers my Lufthansa flights from Minsk to Buenos Aires. I’d cashed in a fair few of my generally useless LH Miles & More miles for this leg of the trip. I’d read that a lot of people hoping to get a LH First Class seat struggled to find availability, mainly as they use non-LH miles, and LH fiercely guards their premium mileage capacity. However, possibly as I was spending LH miles, I had no problem finding a seat on the date I wanted around four months before the flight.

I was very happy to be able to get these flights. The MSQ-FRA flight as it was the Embraer jet, my favourite shorthual aircraft. The FRA-EZE for a number of reasons:
1) A ride on the upper deck of the 747
2) Being able to use the renowned First Class lounges and terminal in FRA, along with chauffeur driven transfers
3) Enjoying the only First Class with a proper seat and a proper full flat bed
4) The FRA-EZE, at 7132 miles, clocked in at a comfortable +13 hours, and with an evening departure, and morning arrival, I’d be able to properly enjoy a dinner, long rest, then breakfast, rather than having a hurried nap

The flights I took on my trip



BA J LHR-WAW A320
LH J MSQ-FRA E190
LH F FRA-EZE B744
AR Y MVD-AEP E190
AR Y AEP-ASU B73G
AR Y IGR-EZE B738
AR Y EZE-CUN A343
9N Y PLJ-MYF C208
40 Y CTM-MEX A320
LH J MEX-FRA B748i
LH J FRA-LCY E190

The entire route


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My route from MSQ to EZE today, courtesy of GC Mapper


Onto the Report



I decided to take the airport bus from downtown Minsk out to the airport. I’d read mixed things about MSQ. The airport website lauded the renovated part of the terminal which had just been completed ahead of the ice hockey championships. It seemed, however, that the new part was reserved for Belavia flights only. The rest of the terminal was very oddly laid out. Each airline was assigned a gate, a pair of which had its own security, check in, immigration and duty free & lounge. Despite the airport being quite large given the number of flights, the actual usable space was completely inadequate.

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FIDS
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Within an hour, there were three flights using the Gate 5/6 area, OS to VIE, EY to AUH, and LH to FRA. As the OS passengers were still checking in, the FRA passengers were told to wait until 2 hours before departure. As I still had a good 30 minutes, I thought I’d go outside and check out the collection of Soviet aircraft parked nearby.

I was unsure if the aircraft were “secret” or part of a photo-friendly spotters area. As such, I was a bit cautious with photos. As I still had my suitcase, and there was no path, I just walked down the main road from the terminal!
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At T-2 hours, I headed back to the terminal, and got to the security line just as they announcement that FRA passengers could check in (there is a passengers only security check before check in). Once through, there was a mass of people with a vague semblance of queue for a 5 desks. Sadly, the queue I chose (which was apparently going to say FRA Business) had issues, and never opened. After five minutes queuing with no progress, I asked a member of floating OS ground crew if there was a line for First Class passengers. Thankfully, this had the desired effect, and I was brought to the front of one of the lines with an “Excuse me, this is a first class passenger”. A little embarrassing, but better than waiting in a non-moving queue forever.



Both my boarding passes were printed, and my bags tagged through to EZE. Immigration was fairly quick, as was the second security check. There didn’t seem to be much happening airside, so I headed to the contract lounge.

Belavia and Etihad on the ramp
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The lounge was not flashy, but had a better range of stock than I had imagined, and long with some very friendly staff.
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There was a choice of sparkling waters (a definite plus), and lots of various snacks and nibbles (there was fruit, sandwiches, cheese, salad etc in the fridge).
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I used the last of my Belarussian Roubles on the Belarus fridge magnet. There was a handy little shop in the lounge selling trinkets. There was a bowl full of chocolate bars and chewing gum, which was part of the free lounge offerings.
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The varied selection of beer


Our Embraer ready for boarding


There was an unspecified delay in boarding. I was finally on-board just 5 minutes before our STD. There was no priority boarding, just a free for all.


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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:55 pm

May 2014
Minsk (MSQ) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Lufthansa LH 1487
Scheduled: 1440-1605 (2h25m)
Actual: 1457-1602 (2h05m)
Embraer E190 D-AECA
Business Class

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I was welcomed on board, and found my way to my seat in row two.
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There are these pre-installed mini tables in Business Class, making the 2x2 seating into 1x1. It’s a nice idea, but the tables themselves are a waste of time. They are stuck at a slant, so you can’t actually a full glass on them without a significant risk of spillage. The table also takes up a load of space that you might conceivably use to store a winter coat, or shopping bag.
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The plane gradually fills up, with 8 of the 10 business seats being taken, although thankfully no one in front or across from me, so it feels very private.

A little behind schedule, we push back, and the safety demo is done.
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Not much but Belavia around this afternoon
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The MSQ terminal
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Belavia flew this aircraft on a one off MSQ-WAW flight a few weeks after I passed through. I think quite a few a.netters were onboard.
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Obviously there is no traffic to hold for, so off we go
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The sun of earlier is mostly gone, with the typical afternoon thunderstorms moving in
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Above the clouds
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Lunch starts with a drink and cashew nuts. I go with a G&T and sparkling water
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There is no choice of lunch, and there is only a cold plate. BA would offer one hot and one cold choice on a summer flight of this duration, so I think LH could try a little harder. They do include a menu though.
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This is asparagus season apparently, a theme that continues into the Frankfurt lounges. In the UK nearly all the asparagus you buy is green, so seeing these funnily shaped white things served in business class is interesting. Thankfully, they taste quite ok. The dessert and bread are good too.
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In keep in LH’s support of the Deutscher Fußball team, there is a Fanhansa chocolate too
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After lunch, there was a further drinks run. I asked for a couple of diet cokes, but only got one
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Safety card
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On my trip back from the facilities (which are really quite tiny in the front) I picked up a further coke
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Approach to Frankfurt
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A small packet of sweets was handed out before the crew were asked to take their seats for landing


A CZ A330 on a parallel approach
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Welcome to Germany
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As expected, we were assigned a remote stand. One of the benefits of connecting in First is that remote gate arrivals and departures are assigned private transfers. These vary depending on the number of passengers, but include Mercedes and Porsches. In my excitement, I didn’t take a photo of the car, but I think it was a Porsche Cayenne. I was the only connecting F passenger, so got the car to myself.
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The driver helped my put my hand baggage in the boot, then we set off, before even most of the business class passengers were even off the plane.
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Some tarmac scenes
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An interesting view of the control tower through the oversized sunroof
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The driver dropped me off the arrivals and transfers area. They’re not allowed to drive you to the First Class Terminal (FCT). At this stage I had six hours before my EZE flight. I decided not to go into Frankfurt town, but to check out the First lounges in the main terminal, before heading over to the FCT. Unfortunately, it was a bit late in the day to go up to the viewing deck.
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After clearing security and immigration, I found my way to the Schengen First Class lounge. I was welcomed to the lounge, and immediately told that I would be better off using the non-Schengen one. I said I was happy to check out a few lounges given my long layover, and they said that that was fine, and to enjoy my stay.

Of all the lounges in the world, this, along with the basically identical FCT, was the one that I was most looking forward to. Upon first glance, things looked good. There were barely half a dozen other people in the lounge, so there was plenty of space to spread out in the very comfortable seating.
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It didn’t take long, however, for me to realise a fairly major issue, and something that would reoccur throughout my 5-odd hour stay in both the FCL and FCT….nearly everything was waiter service, and there were just not enough staff. The FCL really put the wait into waiter. Not very first class.

On all of the tables was a drinks menu, with possibly the most extensive list of drinks I’ve seen anywhere. It just went on and on. Nearly everything was fancy and expensive. There was a choice of 7 champagnes, 20 gins, 25 vodkas, 31 rums, and 141 whiskeys!! (as well as plenty of other nice things). One interesting choice I noticed was that the only cider on offer was Strongbow, which in the UK at least, is definitely one of the cheaper and less fancy brands. Certainly any cider drinkers that are flying in First Class would be expecting a nicer tipple than that. There was also no nice craft beers on the menu; it was mostly bland, mass produced lagers.


Here’s a sample from the champagne page….quite impressive!
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However, an immense menu is of limited use when the bar is unattended, and the (seemingly) only waiter on duty has gone AWOL.
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The one thing that I could see on offer than you could just pick up was one of the many artisanal waters from around the world.

I got myself a Voss. Of course, I had to go hunting for a glass (I found a self service bar in the smoking room which had glasses) as there were none on the main bar.


After ten minutes wondering if the FCL was actually just an area of comfy sofas, and warm bottles of international water, I went over to the dining area. There was an extensive buffet laid out, but also a menu on all of the tables with a selection of freshly-made items to be ordered.
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A selection of buffet items


And fresh from the kitchen items. I went with the prawn linguine when the waiter finally appeared.


Simple, and moreishly delicious. They didn’t scrimp on the shrimp!
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I also helped myself to a few of the buffet items as well. Smoked salmon, more prawns, and some green asparagus.
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And a nice chocolate mousse.
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Tasty food, even if the atmosphere is a little dull and clinical. The waiter wasn’t very friendly.

Next up, time for a bath. A little oasis in a busy airport.
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Nice amenities
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And the famous LH duck
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Feeling very refreshed, and with another 3 ½ hours to go before boarding, I thought I’d get a few more drinks, and sit by the windows. Sadly, the views were very limited.

By this time, I was the only passenger in the lounge. The same guy was on drinks duty, and still as reticent as ever to smile.
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A rum and coke, and some Welsh spring water. I was a little sad to see that there was no (tasty Georgian) Borjomi water on offer. Judging by the amount of dust on the bottles, the water bar wasn’t quite as popular with the other passengers as it was for me. The default water served in the restaurant area is Voss, so perhaps that’s all anyone drinks? Or maybe the average suited businessman gets much better service, so there is no need for them to walk over to the water bar and choose a colourful bottle?
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With 3 hours to go before boarding, I head off into the real world. The wonderfully old school FIDS flipboard.
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I decide to check the seat map on an autocheck-in machine to gauge loads on the flight. It seems there is just one other passengers in F tonight. I print out another boarding pass. It’s on flimsy paper, so I go over to the F desk to get it reprinted on proper stock. The guy there is very friendly, and gives me a nice red ticket holder, and then directions to the FCT.


The walk over to the First Class Terminal is a short, although not particularly scenic one.
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:56 pm

The Lufthansa First Class Terminal



After taking the lift up to the welcome area, I’m greeted by one of the three ladies sitting by the front desk. I’m asked for my boarding pass and passport, which are kept by them. I’m asked if I have been to the FCT before (“no”) and if I would like a quick tour (“yes”).

Security is super quick, and I’m shortly given a quick tour of the FCT, which is fairly similar in size and amenities to the FCL. It must be a real hassle for these “First Class Assistants”, having to go through security numerous times each day.

I was asked if there was anything she could help with before she headed back to the welcome area. I asked where the printers were, as I needed to print a few document out.

“There aren’t any in the FCT. People find them too noisy”. (Huh? Too noisy? Never heard of a room with a door?)

Thankfully, she was very helpful, and after a bit of messing around on various computers, and emailing various documents, I was handed a wodge of paper. Excellent, even if the paper was a curious shade of yellow.

With the printing finished, I went to find a table. I then twiddled my thumbs to see if one of the few wait staff would come over. They didn’t. A few minutes after I sat down, a pair of Japanese businessmen went to sit on a sofa on the other side of my section. Within seconds, a waiter appeared, took their drinks orders, and then was soon back with the drinks. Clearly, customer profiling is alive and well in the FCT. Wear a suit, look old & distinguished, or don’t expect to be treated like a paying customer.

I got up, and went to get a bottle of water.


The wifi was free and fairly fast, so I passed the time online. I think my preconceived impression that this lounge would be amazing were rather misguided. There was excellent catering, yes, but its’ really quite underwhelming in most other ways.

As I clearly wasn’t going to be offered a drink anytime soon, I thought I’d go to the bar and get one (well, I thought I’d better get two to save another journey). The Veuve Cliquot Rose…quite tasty.


The FIDS are personalised to the people who happen to be in the FCT
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After a bit, I went to check out the FCT restaurant. The menu was the same as in the FCL. It was quite busy, and the only empty table was still uncleared from the last occupier. I sat down, and waited. I waited a bit longer, and then a bit longer again, as the two waiters kept walking past me and ignoring me. Finally I went up to the buffet, got myself a few things, and a bottle of water from the water bar. I finally flagged down a waiter to get a glass for my water, and he quickly cleared the table once it became obvious that the mess was not mine.

With my little snack done, I went back to the lounging area. I stopped by the bar to get a G&T. The bar tender was clearly quite stressed, especially when I asked what different tonics she had. A good gin deserves better than the standard Schweppes tonic. I went for a Botanist by Bruichladdich gin & a Fentimens tonic. Delicious!
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After another few G&Ts, the same agent that welcomed me into the lounge can and found me to say that the flight was now boarding.


She asked me how I thought the lounge was. When I said that the catering was great, but the service was atrocious, she said she was sorry, and would feed this back….

Before I was assigned a car, I was shown to the immigration desk, where I was stamped out of Germany.

After a few more minutes, I was told that my car was here. It was another Porsche Cayenne – sorry, I didn’t get a photo.

The door leading out to the cars


Some views from the back seat
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We parked underneath the airbridges – it was pretty cool to be stood on the ramp next to a B744.
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The driver escorted me to a door into the terminal, where we took a lift up to the jetbridge level. It looked like everyone had already boarded as there were just a few members of staff floating around. My chauffeur bid me adieu, and I walked off down the bridge to the plane.
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:56 pm

May 2014
Frankfurt (FRA) – Buenos Aires (EZE)
Lufthansa LH 510
Scheduled: 2205-0700 (13h55m)
Actual: 2233-0650 (13h17m)
Boeing 747-400 D-ABVT
First Class

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And First Class on the upper deck, courtesy of Sam Chui who flew the same plane as me to Dubai

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There was no one standing at door 1L when I boarded. The 747s haven’t been updated with the new business seat yet, so they had the same 2006-era vintage slopey seats in the nose. I flew one of these newly updated planes back then FRA-AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG, and the subject of my first TR.

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SAS and Lufthansa Business Class, LHR-OSL-FRA-FRA, B73G and B744

I made my way up stairs where I was greeted at the top by the two excellent first class crew. After the depressingly apathetic staff in the First Class lounges, it was a relief to know that I didn’t get dud cabin crew as well.

First impressions of LH’s first class cabin….wonderful! So spacious! Having just eight passengers seats on the upper deck is just so decadent, when other airlines cram as many as 84 squished passengers (NH domestic versions) upstairs. Most other airlines put business upstairs though. Both BA and UA fit 20 passengers up there. Once boarding was completed, there would be just two of us tonight, nearly a private flight! Despite the seats not being EK/SQ style private suites, with just one other passenger, I felt like I had the place to myself. On a full flight, things might not been so serene and quiet.
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Yes, a proper bed AND a seat
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Nice sized TV
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Once I was sat down, I was offered a choice of drinks (I go with some sparkling water and a glass of Tattinger), some macadamia nuts, pyjamas, slippers, and a wash kit.


The wash bag doubled as a quite nice tablet cover. The contents were ok – nothing amazing.
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Tonight’s menu was also handed out. I was quite sad to see that the delicious Laurent-Perrier Grand Siècle was not onboard. Champagnes:
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Dinner


Breakfast


One issue with the seat layout, especially with the upper deck curve, is that viewing out the window is pretty hard. Luckily this was an all-darkness overnight flight, so I wasn’t going to be missing many views.
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The safety demo is done, and we push back on Lufthansa’s longest segment, 7132 miles to Argentina.
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Some blurry map photos
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Once the seatbelt signs came off, the crew sprang into action. More drinks, this time the Vueve Cliquot, and some water.
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Wolf of Wall Street is tonight’s film
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Some tasty balik salmon is served before dinner
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The table is then set
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Bread is offered


And then comes the caviar
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Yum
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Next come the appetisers, served on a little tray with space for three dishes. I select the lobster and the chicken (poulard). The f/a tries to woo me into taking a third appetiser, but I decline. After all my snacking in the lounge, I’m already dangerously full.
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The lobster
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I’m undecided about which main to go for. After a quick discussion with the f/a, I go with the monkfish with chervil bulgar and fennel. Not a choice that I’d normally go for, but I’m glad I did. It was delicious.
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Over the course of the meal, I try a few of the wines – there is some nice stuff loaded!
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To finish, I go with the sorbet, lychee and hibiscus infusion. Fancy, but a great way to finish.
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I’m too stuffed for cheese, and accept just one post dinner chocolate, along with some peppermint tea.
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By the time dinner is over, we’re well on our way West. The next landfall will be over Brazil.
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Feeling very satisfied from dinner, I brush my teeth, change into the pjs, and climb into bed. The washrooms aren’t massive, but both have a window, and are well equipped with various amenities. Obviously, with a ratio of 1 washroom per passenger, there is no wait.

The bed is wonderful. The cabin is dark and cool. I drift off with no problem. Being right under the curve in the fuselage, it’s very cozy lying in bed. In what is definitely a record for me, I manage a full nine hour sleep.

I wake up with 90 minutes left to run to EZE.
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As I head down to the washroom, one of the f/as ask if I’m ready for breakfast (“yes I am!”). I start with freshly squeezed OJ
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A croissant with nutella
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Cornflakes, a fruit plate and a hot chocolate
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Next I’m offered a range of cold dishes. I decline the cheese, and go with the prawn and salmon dish.
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Finally, I’m asked if I’d like some bacon and eggs. Another course? Why the hell not! I also go with a pot of mint tea.
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Another fantastic meal! Sadly, Buenos Aries is fast approaching. I get changed back out of my pjs (into my winter clothes…why am I here in the winter?!), and the cabin is slowly prepared for landing.
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A few minutes early, and we land in a damp and drizzly Ezeiza Airport.
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An Aerolineas Argentinas A340 is parked next to us. I’ll fly one of these up to Cancun a few weeks later.
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Sadly it’s time to get off. I could have quite happily stayed onboard for another few hours eating and drinking. It’s a shame the tag to SCL was discontinued. I can honestly say, I’ve never got off a longhual flight more satisfied, satiated and rested. I felt ready for my first Latin day!
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I say my goodbyes to the excellent crew, and then descended to the main deck when door 2L is just being opened. At the end of the jetbridge is a member of ground crew with a board with my name on. She introduces herself, and says she will be helping me though the airport. To be honest, her role is fairly redundant. There is no queue at immigration, and she isn’t needed at the baggage carousel. Where she might have been able to help, however, is at the giant queue for customs. Sadly, this isn’t within her remit, so I end up joining the back of the 20 minute queue to get my bag x-rayed.


Arrivals board
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So, what did I think?



Lufthansa were a bit of a mixed bag today. Check in in MSQ was a mess. Business on the Embraer to FRA was ok, although the catering could have been a bit more interesting.

The catering staff in First Class lounges were, quite frankly, awful. There is no point in having all this wonderful stuff on offer if the few staff you do have working are either too lazy or too busy to serve you. If you don’t want to offer decent service, then please, make it easy to serve yourself. That said, the range of food and drink on offer were outstanding.

The chauffeur service in FRA was a nice thing to offer. And of course, the actual flight in First was excellent. The staff were great, food was great, and the bed….extraordinary! No seat-that-turns-into-a-bed can complete. It’s such a shame that the dwindling 747-400 fleet is the only aircraft to offer this type of First. Try it now before it too late!


The next report will cover my stay in Buenos Aires, and my Aerolíneas Argentinas flights from Montevideo to Asuncion via Buenos Aires’ downtown airport


As always, all comments and questions welcome, and thanks for reading about my latest trip!



Some of my other TRs:



#1, BA LHR-WAW In J & IIHF Belarussian Ice Hockey
Panama 3! Jumbo Transatlantic - UA/LH/KL To London
Panama 2! Air Panama Islander to the Caribbean Sea
Panama! Country #100! KL & UA LHR-AMS-EWR-IAH-PTY
Burmese Days 4: Back to London in Saudia Business Class
Burmese Days 3: Around Burma with Air KBZ
Burmese Days 2: Malaysia Airlines KUL-RGN
Burmese Days 1: BA & SV LHR-FCO-RUH-KUL & T2 Pics
LAN 787 in Business MAD-FRA, and some hops around Germany on AB
#8: Finnair back to London. PEK-HEL-LHR A330 & A321
#7: Air Koryo. Flying the IL76, Tu154, & Tu204 back to Beijing
#6: Air Koryo. Flying the Tu134, An24, An148 & IL62
#5: Air Koryo takes me North. Tu 204 & IL 18 to Pyongyang and Mt Paeku
#4: Kungfu China. FM SHA-CGO & MU LYA-PEK
#3: JAL Osaka-Shanghai, & The Chinese Bullet Train
#2: ANA & Peach. B747-400D HND-CTS-KIX + Hokkaido trains
#1: The Reindeer Route to Tokyo. AY 320 & JL 787
Jetstreaming to Anglesey with Citywing CWL-VLY-CWL
The Norwegian 787 Dreamtour – LGW-OSL-LGW
East Meets West with Cityjet. Inaugural LCY-DRS, NUE-LCY
Auf Wiedersehen FTL! LH/LO/OS LHR-DUS-WAW-VIE-LHR
Off to Zimbabwe, Part 3: Etihad JNB-AUH-LHR
Off to Zimbabwe, Part 2. BA/Comair, JNB-HRE, LVI-JNB
Off to Zimbabwe, Part 1. EI & EY, BHX-DUB-MAN-AUH-JNB
La Dolce Vita with Alitalia, Part 3, BDS-LIN-LHR
La Dolce Vita with Alitalia, Part 2. MXP-NRT-FCO-BRI
La Dolce Vita with Alitalia, Part 1. LHR-FCO-GOA
Dubrovnik with British Airways. Club on the B734
Autumn Asia Part 10: Take me home Saudia! DEL-RUH-LHR B777
Autumn Asia Part 9: Air India 787. Calcutta - Delhi
Autumn Asia Part 8: United Airways DAC-ZYL, Jet Airways DAC-CCU
Autumn Asia Part 7: Going Beyond Expectations. MH KUL-DAC on the A330
Autumn Asia Part 6: Silk Air and Firefly around the Malay Peninsula. SIN-LGK-SZB
Autumn Asia Part 5: Fine Dining on Scoot. TPE-SIN on the 777
Autumn Asia Part 4: First with Cathay Pacific: AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG-TPE F on the B744
Autumn Asia Part 3: Around China with KN, MU & CN
Autumn Asia Part 2: JALing it to Beijing. JL HND-PEK 772 Business
Autumn Asia Part 1: Limoncello with Alitalia. BA/AZ LHR-MXP-FCO-NRT
Va BeNe with Cityjet. RTM-LCY Fokker 50
Truly Great Britain: FlyBE EDI-IOM on Saab 340 & BA IOM-LCY on Saab 2000
Cyprus with Aegean. Business on the A321, LHR-LCA-LHR
Scotland In A Day: FlyBE GLA-BHD-LGW. DH8 & E190
Tegel A.Net Meet. SN LHR-BRU-TXL, LH TXL-BHX
Bye Bye Baby: easyJet LTN-BFS, bmi Baby BHD-BHX
Air One and Alitalia to Sicily – LGW-MXP-PMO-LIN-LHR
Part 12: Sun Air of Scandinavia & BA, DUS-BLL-MAN-LHR on the J31, D328 and A320
Part 11: Thai Airways BKK-FRA, B77W First Class & LH FRA-DUS Business
Part 10: Thai Airways Kathmandu-Bangkok, B772 Business Class
Part 9: Yeti Airlines “Everest Express” on the J41
Part 8: Biman Bangladesh A310 Dhaka-Kathmandu
Part 7: United Airways ATR Dhaka-Cox’s Bazar & Regent Airways Dash Chittagong-Dhaka
Part 6: Biman Bangladesh DC10 Calcutta-Dhaka
Part 5: SpiceJet B739 & Jet Konnect B738 Calcutta-Bagdogra rtn, with Darjeeling
Part 4: Singapore Airlines A330 Business Class Singapore-Calcutta
Part 3: Sriwijiaya Airlines & Lion Air Boeing 737-900ER Banda Aceh-Medan-Jakarta-Singapore
Part 2: Valuair/Jetstar Asia SIN-MES and Garuda MES-BTJ
Part 1: U2 LTN-BCN, SQ BCN-SIN 77W Business
Africa Part 7: British Airways Club Europe B767, LCA-LHR
Africa Part 6: LX ZRH-ATH, A3 ATH-LCA. A Greek Tragedy
Africa Part 5: Dar es Salaam – Nairobi – Zurich with Swiss First
Africa Part 4: Fly 540 DAR-ZNZ in Y, and Zanzibar photos
Africa Part 3: ET KGL-EBB-ADD-DAR-ZNZ, A to Z with Ethiopian Airlines in C
Africa Part 2: SN BRU-BJM, SA BJM-KGL, Business to Burundi and Rwanda
Africa Part 1: BD LHR-CMN, TP CMN-LIS, SN LIS-BRU in Y and C
A.net meeting in snowy Tallinn. U2/FR STN-TLL-LTN
easyJet and bmi up to Aberdeen, LTN-ABZ-LHR
The Costa del Sol with British Airways. LGW-AGP-LCY
Mysterious Moldova (and Transnistria). Lufthansa LHR-MUC-KIV
BA to the Austrian Alps. LHR-MUC, INN-LGW
I can't get no Jetisfaction: LH LGW-FRA inaugural
Colombia Part 4: Colombia to London via FRA/MUC/HEL on LH & BA
Colombia Part 3: Colombia with Avianca (AV). SMR-BOG-MDE-BOG
Colombia Part 2: Colombia with Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG
Colombia Part 1: London to Colombia via ARN/MUC/FRA on BA & LH
USA and Mexico Part 4, British Airways Mexico City – London, World Traveller Plus
USA and Mexico Part 3: Around Mexico with Aereo Calafia Cessna 208B & Viva Aerobus B733
USA and Mexico Part 2: Sightseeing tour of SAN, and AA San Diego - LA – Dallas - San Jose Cabo
USA and Mexico Part 1: easyJet Luton to Paris, and BA Paris to San Diego via LHR in World Traveller Plus
British Airways to Scandinavia (LHR-CPH,GOT-LHR)
Where’s my bag? British Airways, Milan to London
What airline am I flying again? Bmi/Lufthansa Italia LHR-MXP
Albania and Macedonia: Austrian LHR-VIE-TIA, Macedonian Airlines SKP-ZRH, Swiss ZRH-LCY
Part 1, Lufthansa London-Munich-Frankfurt-Nanjing, Economy Class A321 and A343
Part 2, Cathay Pacific Shanghai to Tokyo via Hong Kong, Business Class A330 and B747-400
Part 3, ANA Boeing B767 Tokyo to Shanghai, & Air China Airbus A340 Shanghai to Beijing, Business Class
Part 4: Chinese domestics, inc. Joy Air Xi’an MA60, Tianjin Airlines ERJ, and China Express Airways CRJ
Part 5: Lufthansa Beijing-Frankfurt-London City, Economy Class A388 and E90
5 Countries, 5 Flights, 5 Days, with Ryanair (FR)
bmiFriday: Welcome to Sunny Norway, London to Bergen, A319)
Royal Jordanian, London to Aqaba via Amman. A330 and A320
Royal Jordanian, Amman to London, A330
London City to Antwerp with Cityjet and the Fokker 50
Croatian Airlines, LHR-ZAG,PUY-ZAD-ZAG-LHR, A319 and Dash 8
British Airways, Iberia & Binter to Tenerife and Gran Canaria, LHR-MAD-TFN-LPA-MAD-LHR, A320,ATR, A321
British Airways, London To Amsterdam, LGW-AMS-LHR, B737 & A321
British Airways up to a snowy Glasgow, with a change of flights and delay, LHR-GLA-LCY A321 and E90
Turkish Airlines Business Class from London to Istanbul. From Terrible To Fantastic
Turkish Airlines Business Class from Istanbul to Batumi (Georgia). Not again!
bmi Business Class, Tbilisi to London via Azerbaijan
Tallinn to London, with Estonian Air and BA, via ARN
Cuba! BA/IB London-Madrid-Havana, Business Class
Aerocarribean, Baracoa to Havana
Asia Trip, Pt 1: Qatar Airways Business Class (LHR-DOH-ICN)
Asia Trip, Pt 2: China Southern and Hainan Airlines (A321/A346)
Asia Trip, Pt 3: Malaysia Airlines, Hong Kong to Penang
Asia Trip, Pt 4: Qatar Airways Economy (AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG-DOH-LHR)
A weekend in Transylvania with Blue Air (LTN-SBZ)
Helsinki for the weekend on BA and KF
Easter in Ukraine with Austrian
UAE and Oman with BA and Air Arabia. Y & Y+
AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG-LHR-AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG Air New Zealand, Premium Economy and Economy
US Airways LGW-DCA-MSP-LGA-LGW
London Heathrow - Zurich - Venice on Swiss Business for the weekend
Chasing the Eclipse on China Eastern
Taiwan: EVA Air (AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG-TPE rtn), UNI Airways (TSA-HCN), Daily Air (TTT-KYD rtn)
UA AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG-SIN-AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG Y Class, SQ KUL-SIN C Class
Bangkok to Beijing, Egyptair Business Class
Air China Beijing to Harbin, B777 Economy outbound, A330 First Class return
Tiger Airways, Singapore to Darwin return
A selection of Chinese Domestics; China Eastern, Air China and Shenzhen Airlines
Hong Kong to London on Singapore Airlines (744/380/77W)
Qatar Airways Beijing-Doha-London Heathrow (A330/A340)
Air China First Class. Beijing-Guilin via Xi’an
Armenia with Austrian Airlines. LHR-VIE-EVN
Round Asia Trip. URC-HTN,OSS-FRU,ALA-URC-LHW-KMG-JHG-KMG-SYX,HAK-NKG-PEK-NRT-LHR,
Hainan Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Lucky Air, ANA, Economy and Business Class.

SAS and Lufthansa Business Class, LHR-OSL-FRA-FRA, B73G and B744
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:36 pm

How is Minsk? The countryside looks beautiful.

I want to go to Chetumal. How was it? Thanks.
 
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:44 pm

Hi!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
How is Minsk? The countryside looks beautiful.

Minsk was great. Did you see the previous report? Lots of Belarus photos:
#1, BA LHR-WAW In J & Iihf Belarussian Ice Hockey (by gabrielchew Jun 29 2014 in Trip Reports)

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
I want to go to Chetumal. How was it? Thanks.

I passed through Chetumal twice, but didn't stop sadly. The airport is nice and compact! I gather there are much nice places to spend time than Chetumal.
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:49 pm

Hi Gabriel,

Great report!! Lufthansa F looks great as always. Unfortunately, something I won't experience for awhile unlesss I win the Florida lottery...Until then I'm going to be stuck on domestic First routes in America...

Looked up the Star Awards on UA for LH F MIA-FRA-MIA. First Class is around 340,000 miles R/T and Business Class is about 300,000. Very expensive...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):

And the famous LH duck

Did you keep a few?  

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:53 pm

Great TR! I find Lufthansa first class amazing, flew with them in 2012 in route to England. Enjoy Argentina!

Greetings, joaco
 
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:37 pm

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 6):

Great report!!

Thanks!

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 6):
Lufthansa F looks great as always.

Yup, great in the air, patchy on the ground

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 6):
Unfortunately, something I won't experience for awhile unlesss I win the Florida lottery...Until then I'm going to be stuck on domestic First routes in America...

Well, you can cross your fingers!

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 6):
Looked up the Star Awards on UA for LH F MIA-FRA-MIA. First Class is around 340,000 miles R/T and Business Class is about 300,000. Very expensive...

Pricey, especially as it's so hard to find seats for non-LH members. That J price seems way too much.

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 6):
Did you keep a few?

Ha, I kept 1!

Quoting joacocifuentes (Reply 7):
Great TR!

Thanks!

Quoting joacocifuentes (Reply 7):
I find Lufthansa first class amazing, flew with them in 2012 in route to England. Enjoy Argentina!

Thanks Jocao! I loved Argentina
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:27 pm

Hey Gabriel:

Always enjoy reading your reports though I rarely reply.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
and the bed….extraordinary! No seat-that-turns-into-a-bed can complete. It’s such a shame that the dwindling 747-400 fleet is the only aircraft to offer this type of First. Try it now before it too late!

This I agree 100%!

Cheers!

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:57 am

Hi Gabriel,

Another great report from you!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
4) The FRA-EZE, at 7132 miles, clocked in at a comfortable +13 hours, and with an evening departure, and morning arrival, I’d be able to properly enjoy a dinner, long rest, then breakfast, rather than having a hurried nap

Lucky to get it on a route this long! Looked like a great flight you had upstairs.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
There is no choice of lunch, and there is only a cold plate. BA would offer one hot and one cold choice on a summer flight of this duration, so I think LH could try a little harder. They do include a menu though.

Yeah, that does look a bit meager for a 2 hour flight at lunch time. Surprising as their F food looks really plentiful!

Sorry to hear about the lounge experience. It's always surprising when an airline has so many good things going for them, and then simple customer service in a lounge can be so lacking.

Looking forward to the next part.

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:34 am

Hi Gabriel,

An excellent report from you. What an incredible amount of liquids you consumed. I'm loathe to believe you walked off that plane without a shadow of a hangover!

Dismal service in the lounges, but all should have been forgotten after the excellent flight. Wolf of Wall Street is an ironic choice... I personally hope you had no quelludes up your arse for that segment. It's a great scene when he is restrained on the flight.

Fast track that late at report, as I've just touched down in Asuncion!

Ciao!

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:00 am

What a great flight you had on that beautiful Queen to EZE

LH looks to be the new European standard.

Was most of the flight smooth or did you experience CAT flying through the Southern Atlantic?

I know you mentioned you slept 9 hours.

Thanks again for sharing

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:15 am

Hi Gabriel -

Thanks for putting this together. The transfer experience in FRA at the FCL and FCT is disheartening to read, from your perspective. I was hoping for a more favorable outcome. Alas, why bother?

However, the experience on LH F on the 744 seems to have MORE than made up for it, amply. 9 hours of sleep is a record!

On that note, I am considering flying F in BA in January, either on the 744 LHR-DFW or 388 LHR-IAD. Do you have any recos? feel free to PM me or msg me on Facebook if you have any insights.

Also, looking forward to the next installment to see how much you enjoyed BAires!

Great work, per usual!

Best,

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:50 am

Hi, I enjoy reading your report as always. Apart from amazing seats, I also find LH First Class Terminal/Lounge at FRA exceptional (except the fact that there weren't enough staff to attend when you were there nor friendly service). Out of your experience, is there any other lounge or airport experience that can compete with LH's F?
 
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:56 am

Hi Gabriel,

very nice report, I had been looking forward to this one!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):

There are these pre-installed mini tables in Business Class, making the 2x2 seating into 1x1. It’s a nice idea, but the tables themselves are a waste of time.

Definitely better than the ridiculous 2-2 C Class seating on KLM.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
In my excitement, I didn’t take a photo of the car, but I think it was a Porsche Cayenne.

That's what I got, too. Actually had requested that one.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And the famous LH duck

Only one?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The walk over to the First Class Terminal is a short, although not particularly scenic one.

It was built rather late and it had to fit there, one cannot get everything.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
With the printing finished, I went to find a table. I then twiddled my thumbs to see if one of the few wait staff would come over. They didn’t. A few minutes after I sat down, a pair of Japanese businessmen went to sit on a sofa on the other side of my section. Within seconds, a waiter appeared, took their drinks orders, and then was soon back with the drinks. Clearly, customer profiling is alive and well in the FCT. Wear a suit, look old & distinguished, or don’t expect to be treated like a paying customer.

I cannot confirm that. As soon as we appeared in the restaurant area, a very friendly waiter welcomed us and asked us for the table preference. We were served water and champagne within a few moments. We even had to stop the refill efforts at one point. Absolutely execellent treatment - and no, we didn't wear suits. Other people around didn't either, including a family with teenagers. Everyone was served well.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As I clearly wasn’t going to be offered a drink anytime soon, I thought I’d go to the bar and get one (well, I thought I’d better get two to save another journey). The Veuve Cliquot Rose…quite tasty.

That's a good one, yes.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
On a full flight, things might not been so serene and quiet.

F was full on our flight and it was still serence and quiet. We had the last row and most other pax didn't pass as they kept using the forward lavatory. Very private cabin, even with 8 pax.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The wash bag doubled as a quite nice tablet cover. The contents were ok – nothing amazing.

The Bogner amenity kit didn't impress me either, but I liked the light and comfy pyjama.


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Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:33 am

Hi Gabriel !

Very nice report with very nice pictures !

Great that the blocked the seat in Business from MSQ and the meal looks okay for a regional jet on a flight for two hours.

Very bad in the First class lounge in Frankfurt! They seemed to have failed in so many ways on your visit. Very bad !

On board, it's very impressive ! The bed next to the seat is very nice but it would be annoying to be far from the window during a day flight. I haven't been on the upper deck on a flight in a long time, but I recall you can feel the incline of the wall when you are seated at the window and I think First Class is best in the nose of a 747 rather than on the upper deck.

Meals look amazing!

The CZ aircraft on approach to FRA is a 777 and not a 330, from looking at the wheels.

Very much looking forward to your next report !

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:48 am

Thanks everyone for your comments!

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 9):

Always enjoy reading your reports

Thanks for reading Colin. Glad you enjoyed it

Quoting 767747 (Reply 10):
Another great report from you!

Thanks Matthew

Quoting 767747 (Reply 10):
Lucky to get it on a route this long! Looked like a great flight you had upstairs.

yes, it worked out well, espevcially as this flight used to be a daytime one

Quoting 767747 (Reply 10):
Sorry to hear about the lounge experience. It's always surprising when an airline has so many good things going for them, and then simple customer service in a lounge can be so lacking.

Yes, it was a huge shame. Still, you can't always have everything

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 11):

An excellent report from you.

Thanks Luke

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 11):
What an incredible amount of liquids you consumed. I'm loathe to believe you walked off that plane without a shadow of a hangover!

Ha, it's amazing what a good night could do. I did only realise whilst writing this report that I didn't have a champagne breakfast....maybe I wasb't feeling it!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 11):

Dismal service in the lounges, but all should have been forgotten after the excellent flight.

Well, the FCT is an integral part of LH F!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 11):
Wolf of Wall Street is an ironic choice... I personally hope you had no quelludes up your arse for that segment. It's a great scene when he is restrained on the flight.

Ha, i'm good boy and would never do any of that stuff!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 11):
Fast track that late at report, as I've just touched down in Asuncion!

Hmm, I doubt it'll be out before you've left, especially at the speed you travel

Quoting Womack17 (Reply 12):
What a great flight you had on that beautiful Queen to EZE

Yes, it was divine!

Quoting Womack17 (Reply 12):
Was most of the flight smooth or did you experience CAT flying through the Southern Atlantic?

There were a few jolts...nothing major that I recall.

Quoting irishayes (Reply 13):

Thanks for putting this together.

No problem!

Quoting irishayes (Reply 13):
The transfer experience in FRA at the FCL and FCT is disheartening to read, from your perspective. I was hoping for a more favorable outcome. Alas, why bother?

Well, it seems YMMV in those lounges

Quoting irishayes (Reply 13):
However, the experience on LH F on the 744 seems to have MORE than made up for it, amply. 9 hours of sleep is a record!

Yes, it was fantastic. Such a change from my LH 744 flight back from EWR in Y!

Quoting irishayes (Reply 13):
On that note, I am considering flying F in BA in January, either on the 744 LHR-DFW or 388 LHR-IAD. Do you have any recos? feel free to PM me or msg me on Facebook if you have any insights.

Sorry, i've not flown BA in F. From what i've read, the crew are much more hit and miss (great if you get a good crew though). People are also polarised over the seats. Some love them, others find them quite small (especially compared to the giant LH offerings).

Quoting hirofumi (Reply 14):
Hi, I enjoy reading your report as always.

Thanks!

Quoting hirofumi (Reply 14):
Out of your experience, is there any other lounge or airport experience that can compete with LH's F?

Hmmm. The TG lounge in BKK is very nice. Good food, and F pax can get a 1 hour massage there in the spa. I've not been in many other loiunges that were particulalrly amazing. The F&B choices in the contract lounge in DXB were amazing though, although the lounge itself was pretty awful with distugusting toilets.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
very nice report, I had been looking forward to this one!

Thanks Udo

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
Definitely better than the ridiculous 2-2 C Class seating on KLM.

Same as BA...2x2 seating on theirs as well

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
Only one?

Yes, only one

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
I cannot confirm that. As soon as we appeared in the restaurant area, a very friendly waiter welcomed us and asked us for the table preference. We were served water and champagne within a few moments. We even had to stop the refill efforts at one point. Absolutely execellent treatment - and no, we didn't wear suits. Other people around didn't either, including a family with teenagers. Everyone was served well.

So it seems I had bad staff in both FCL and FCT...quite unlikely. GOod to hear it's not always like that

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
F was full on our flight and it was still serence and quiet. We had the last row and most other pax didn't pass as they kept using the forward lavatory. Very private cabin, even with 8 pax.

Good to hear

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
Very nice report with very nice pictures !

Thanks!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
Very bad in the First class lounge in Frankfurt! They seemed to have failed in so many ways on your visit. Very bad !

yes, not their finest moment

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
On board, it's very impressive ! The bed next to the seat is very nice but it would be annoying to be far from the window during a day flight.

What's better than looking out the window from your bed! Beats a seat!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
I haven't been on the upper deck on a flight in a long time, but I recall you can feel the incline of the wall when you are seated at the window and I think First Class is best in the nose of a 747 rather than on the upper deck.

I didn't notice any incline...I love sitting in the ose too, but the 748 F cabin isn't a patch on the 744 one

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
Meals look amazing!

They were!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
The CZ aircraft on approach to FRA is a 777 and not a 330, from looking at the wheels.

Oh, maybe it was! I didn't think they used the 777 on European routes
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:48 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 17):
Oh, maybe it was! I didn't think they used the 777 on European routes

They use 777Fs to FRA and AMS.

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:52 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 18):
They use 777Fs to FRA and AMS.

Ah, that'll be it! Thanks for the info
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:10 pm

Hey Gabriel.

Yet another awesome and well detailed report.

Looks like LH offers a solid product in F, the FCT looks nice and it must be pretty cool to be driven to your aircraft in a Porsche 

As for the flight, wow... that bed is all I need for the long haul! sure the 14-odd hour flight must feel like nothing in there... unlike the poor souls in the back.

Looking forward to the other parts

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:40 pm

Hello Gabriel,

Great report! Very well written and nice attention to all the little details. Very cool to read about your First class experience. I agree that the feeder flight and the lounge might be somewhat underwhelming, but the on board experience for sure must have made up for that! And the car transfer is pretty cool too I reckon. Thanks for sharing!
 
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:05 pm

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 20):
Yet another awesome and well detailed report.

Thank you!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 20):
Looks like LH offers a solid product in F, the FCT looks nice and it must be pretty cool to be driven to your aircraft in a Porsche

Yes, the chauffeur service was great

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 20):
As for the flight, wow... that bed is all I need for the long haul! sure the 14-odd hour flight must feel like nothing in there... unlike the poor souls in the back.

Yeah, I can't imagine it was wonderful for those in the back.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 21):

Great report

Thanks Robert

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 21):
Very cool to read about your First class experience. I agree that the feeder flight and the lounge might be somewhat underwhelming, but the on board experience for sure must have made up for that! And the car transfer is pretty cool too I reckon

The flight did make up for the lounge!
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:30 pm

Loved the report Gabriel. If only I had the money! Aha.
 
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:18 pm

Quoting JoeyTaffy93 (Reply 23):
Loved the report Gabriel.

Thanks Joey!

Quoting JoeyTaffy93 (Reply 23):
If only I had the money! Aha.

Money? It's all about the airmiles!
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:23 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 24):
Money? It's all about the airmiles!

Which you accumulate through flying?   Aha.
 
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:36 pm

Quoting JoeyTaffy93 (Reply 25):
Which you accumulate through flying? Aha.

Some of, although lots through credit cards as well. There are some good deals out there.
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:19 am

Thanks Gabriel for this peek in to LH's First Class and it's terminal at FRA. really enjoyed it.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The door leading out to the cars

I see the LH likes to have some S-Class MB's taking people around. Can you remember the exact model? I would say that they don't need the S500's so my bet is on the S250 CDI and S400 CDI Hybrid. Can't wait for part #3.

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Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:42 am

Quoting teme82 (Reply 27):
Thanks Gabriel for this peek in to LH's First Class and it's terminal at FRA. really enjoyed it.

Thanks, glad you liked it

Quoting teme82 (Reply 27):
I see the LH likes to have some S-Class MB's taking people around. Can you remember the exact model? I would say that they don't need the S500's so my bet is on the S250 CDI and S400 CDI Hybrid. Can't wait for part #3.

No idea on the model, sorry.
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:21 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 28):
No idea on the model, sorry.

No worries. So how was the ride in the Porsche? It should have flat six engine so not so much vibration from the engine.  
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:38 pm

Hi Gabriel,
Great report as always. Isn't it funny how on long flights if you sit in Y you can't wait to get out and if your sit in F you want to stay a few more hours?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The rest of the terminal was very oddly laid out. Each airline was assigned a gate, a pair of which had its own security, check in, immigration and duty free & lounge

Probably the left over procedure from the soviet ear when everyone was strip-searched before they were allowed to board.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Belavia and Etihad on the ramp

What equipment is Etihad using - a A320? Wonder who flies there with them.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Belavia flew this aircraft on a one off MSQ-WAW flight a few weeks after I passed through

Interesting, I thought those were taken out of regular service and were used on some charter flights.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
The table also takes up a load of space that you might conceivably use to store a winter coat, or shopping bag

I never understood the logic behind those tables.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Next up, time for a bath. A little oasis in a busy airport

Those are always a nice break and they even gave you a rubber duck.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
it was pretty cool to be stood on the ramp next to a B744.

Yes, you see the giant size when you step next to one of those.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
It’s a shame the tag to SCL was discontinued

I took that years ago and there were maybe 40 people on board. At that time they used A340.

The food looks so tasty, I think they would have to tow me out of my seat after all that food.
 
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:42 pm

Hi Gabriel. Good to see you're insight into LH first class.

Interesting to see that LH block the adjacent seat off in J, even on the E-Jets. BA could learn something there.

Shame about the lounge in FRA. I found the premium terminal in DOH was a similar experience - I'd built it up so much in my mind, that in reality it was a bit underwhelming. Shame about the staff too.

At least the on board service looks decent enough. Nice long flight to experience it on too. The one complaint about my trip where a lot of it was done in J was that all of the flights were around 7 hours or so, therefore not enough time to get a decent amount of time to sleep, eat and savour the experience!

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Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:04 pm

Wow
Very lucky man, i guess you flew hard beforehand to be able to enjoy the finest of LH.
I'm not sure to see the difference between the FCL and the FCT, maybe the eligibility of the access?
I would have done the same thing inflight and tried almost every meal until the morning lol.
A bed and seat is an original concept looking very comfortable. It's good to read that cabin crew looked after you properly, unlike in the so called sanctuary on the ground.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
I’m asked for my boarding pass and passport, which are kept by them.

humm, do you know why?

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Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:34 am

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 26):
Some of, although lots through credit cards as well. There are some good deals out there.

I'll keep my eyes open then.
 
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:23 am

Thanks everyone for the comments!

Quoting teme82 (Reply 29):
No worries. So how was the ride in the Porsche? It should have flat six engine so not so much vibration from the engine.

The ride was very smooth!

Quoting WROORD (Reply 30):

Great report as always.

Thanks!

Quoting WROORD (Reply 30):
Isn't it funny how on long flights if you sit in Y you can't wait to get out and if your sit in F you want to stay a few more hours?

Yes, i't strange that!

Quoting WROORD (Reply 30):
Probably the left over procedure from the soviet ear when everyone was strip-searched before they were allowed to board.

It's amazing how many airports have been designed without the passenger in mind.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 30):
What equipment is Etihad using - a A320? Wonder who flies there with them.

Well, it's one of the few longhual/connecting options into the country. I'm sure they have more than enough people to fill a less than daily A320

Quoting WROORD (Reply 30):
Interesting, I thought those were taken out of regular service and were used on some charter flights.

It was a one off charter

Quoting WROORD (Reply 30):
Yes, you see the giant size when you step next to one of those.

I've just got to get a remote boarding with an A380 next

Quoting WROORD (Reply 30):
The food looks so tasty, I think they would have to tow me out of my seat after all that food.

The food was excellent. THat's why they give you a bed, and have an escort handy on arrival

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
Hi Gabriel. Good to see you're insight into LH first class.

Hope it was a good insight!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
Interesting to see that LH block the adjacent seat off in J, even on the E-Jets. BA could learn something there.

Yeah, BA should definately block them (although without the silly tables)

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
Shame about the lounge in FRA. I found the premium terminal in DOH was a similar experience - I'd built it up so much in my mind, that in reality it was a bit underwhelming. Shame about the staff too.

I thought the service in the QR F section was awful

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
At least the on board service looks decent enough. Nice long flight to experience it on too. The one complaint about my trip where a lot of it was done in J was that all of the flights were around 7 hours or so, therefore not enough time to get a decent amount of time to sleep, eat and savour the experience!

You do need a +10 flight to get the most out of it, especially if it's a night flight

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 32):
Very lucky man, i guess you flew hard beforehand to be able to enjoy the finest of LH.

Yup, many years of flying Y to China!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 32):
I'm not sure to see the difference between the FCL and the FCT, maybe the eligibility of the access?
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 32):
A bed and seat is an original concept looking very comfortable. It's good to read that cabin crew looked after you properly, unlike in the so called sanctuary on the ground.

Yup, the bed and seat were great. The ultimate F seat

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 32):
humm, do you know why?

So they can come and collect you at the right time
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Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:40 am

Hey Gabriel  

Another nice part of your trip. Interesting observations on the LH product. With regards to the LH F Lounge I have heard similar reports about slow waiter service which is a shame as there is nothing worse when you have to wait for what is supposed to be a premium/exclusive service. Maybe they need to offer a self service Champagne bar and another bar. The Champagne list was quite impressive and I would be quite happy with the offerings. Glad you got to sample some  

The onboard F Class cabin is pretty decent and quite acceptable on a flight length such as EZE.

Look forward to the rest of your series.

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Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:40 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 35):

Another nice part of your trip

Thanks Phil!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 35):
With regards to the LH F Lounge I have heard similar reports about slow waiter service which is a shame as there is nothing worse when you have to wait for what is supposed to be a premium/exclusive service. Maybe they need to offer a self service Champagne bar and another bar

A self service bar would be an excellent idea. It should be suggested to them! I guess it doesn't seem "premium", but then again, neither is waiting forever to be served.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 35):
The onboard F Class cabin is pretty decent and quite acceptable on a flight length such as EZE.

Yes, perfect quality and quality of food down to EZE.
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Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:24 pm

Hi Gabriel

Nice report. I thoroughly enjoyed your experience, EZE is the longest LH 744 route, so congrats on choosing that one on your way to S America in style  

What camera do you use to take picture? I noticed quite many blur shot were there. Not intend to be seen as criticism here, but since you go out a long way travelling around the globe, it would be great to savour all the memory with some great shots down the line.

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Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:36 am

Quoting N178UA (Reply 37):

Nice report

Thanks Sam!

Quoting N178UA (Reply 37):
I thoroughly enjoyed your experience, EZE is the longest LH 744 route, so congrats on choosing that one on your way to S America in style

Yeah, i'm glad such a long route had the 744 on it, with award seats on the right date

Quoting N178UA (Reply 37):
What camera do you use to take picture? I noticed quite many blur shot were there. Not intend to be seen as criticism here, but since you go out a long way travelling around the globe, it would be great to savour all the memory with some great shots down the line.

I know! My proper camera was broken, and so I went with a less than wonderful one (although it's also an underwater camera that worked out well in Belize). My proper camera is now back, so hopefully my next series of reports will be a bit better!

Quoting N178UA (Reply 37):
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:00 pm

Nice read and pictures Gabriel,

Glad I found the time to read it!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I had no problem finding a seat on the date I wanted around four months before the flight.

- Lucky!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The airport website lauded the renovated part of the terminal which had just been completed ahead of the ice hockey championships. It seemed, however, that the new part was reserved for Belavia flights only. The rest of the terminal was very oddly laid out

- It is an odd terminal but at least the views of the ramp are pretty good.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As I still had a good 30 minutes, I thought I’d go outside and check out the collection of Soviet aircraft parked nearby.

I was unsure if the aircraft were “secret” or part of a photo-friendly spotters area. As such, I was a bit cautious with photos. As I still had my suitcase, and there was no path, I just walked down the main road from the terminal!

- Oh there are no issues, when I was there there were quite a number of people parked up taking pictures.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I chose (which was apparently going to say FRA Business) had issues, and never opened.

- Had the same issue with LOT.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Belavia flew this aircraft on a one off MSQ-WAW flight a few weeks after I passed through. I think quite a few a.netters were onboard.

- Oh yes, quite a number of us  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
This is asparagus season apparently, a theme that continues into the Frankfurt lounges. In the UK nearly all the asparagus you buy is green, so seeing these funnily shaped white things served in business class is interesting. Thankfully, they taste quite ok. The dessert and bread are good too.

- Looks rather ill when white.......

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A CZ A330 on a parallel approach

- More like a CZ 77F as they don't fly pax flights to FRA.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The FIDS are personalised to the people who happen to be in the FCT

- Good idea.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
After a bit, I went to check out the FCT restaurant. The menu was the same as in the FCL. It was quite busy, and the only empty table was still uncleared from the last occupier. I sat down, and waited. I waited a bit longer, and then a bit longer again, as the two waiters kept walking past me and ignoring me. Finally I went up to the buffet, got myself a few things, and a bottle of water from the water bar. I finally flagged down a waiter to get a glass for my water, and he quickly cleared the table once it became obvious that the mess was not mine.

- Lounge service sounds pretty poor, you obviously need to be in a suit to get service, poor!

Flight sounded superb, I doubt I'll ever experience LH 'F' but it sure looks nice.

Cheers

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:13 am

Thanks for an excellent write-up. As much as I deride LH J, I adore the FCL on them  . EZE is a great route to try their 744 which I think is their best config in F.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It didn’t take long, however, for me to realise a fairly major issue, and something that would reoccur throughout my 5-odd hour stay in both the FCL and FCT….nearly everything was waiter service, and there were just not enough staff. The FCL really put the wait into waiter. Not very first class.

= This is surprising to me. I have had only great service in FCT, and so am amazed this happened to you ... and I rarely wear a suit when I travel. Oh well ... maybe, another time?

Saludos,
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:42 am

Gabs,

Nice one Gabs! At least this was a trip where you didn’t suffer from dehydration, the amount of fluids - alcoholic or not - that you devoured was really overwhelming   Sadly that cannot be said from the FCT at FRA, you do have a point about the staff but I guess this kind of facility and the people who use it (aka the suits) demand to be served I guess? Luckily, the flight itself was much better!

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“Excuse me, this is a first class passenger”

Ooh, you must have had a few cold looks I guess  

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The MSQ terminal

Reminds me of TXL.

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I go with a G&T

Of course!

Quote:
The FCL really put the wait into waiter.

Not good. And it was not that they didn’t notice you? Guess you weren’t dressed accordingly?

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It must be a real hassle for these “First Class Assistants”, having to go through security numerous times each day.

Well, that’s what the customer pays for, ain’t it?

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When I said that the catering was great, but the service was atrocious, she said she was sorry, and would feed this back….

Good to see you told her your opinion and didn’t beat about the bush.

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Yes, a proper bed AND a seat

Wow, a seat and a bed, awesome! I’m clearly not up to date with those high class options!

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I manage a full nine hour sleep.

Congrats, you made good use of the amenities.

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:30 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 39):
Nice read and pictures Gabriel,

Thanks Mark

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 39):
- Oh there are no issues, when I was there there were quite a number of people parked up taking pictures.

Shame I didn't know, or else I'd have been a little more relaxed!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 39):
- Looks rather ill when white.......

Very ill!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 39):
- Lounge service sounds pretty poor, you obviously need to be in a suit to get service, poor!

Yup, wasn't the best. I don't like wearing suits!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 40):
Thanks for an excellent write-up.

Thanks Alex

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 40):
As much as I deride LH J, I adore the FCL on them . EZE is a great route to try their 744 which I think is their best config in F.

Indeed, a great route to try out the bed/seat combo

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 40):
= This is surprising to me. I have had only great service in FCT, and so am amazed this happened to you ... and I rarely wear a suit when I travel. Oh well ... maybe, another time?

Hopefully the next time, service will be First Class....

Quoting sultanils (Reply 41):

Nice one Gabs!

Thanks Nils!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 41):
At least this was a trip where you didn’t suffer from dehydration, the amount of fluids - alcoholic or not - that you devoured was really overwhelming

Ha, I know, lots to drink

Quoting sultanils (Reply 41):
Luckily, the flight itself was much better!

Yu[

Quoting sultanils (Reply 41):
Ooh, you must have had a few cold looks I guess

I think so

Quoting sultanils (Reply 41):
Not good. And it was not that they didn’t notice you? Guess you weren’t dressed accordingly?

I guess not. But it shoudn't be like that anyway. You pay, so you should get the service.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 41):
Wow, a seat and a bed, awesome! I’m clearly not up to date with those high class options!

It was wonderful!
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:59 am

Hi Gabriel!

Great report! I spent at least 1 hour on it to read everthing and to see all the pics!

LH Business not seems to be very good, the (cold) meal on your flight to FRA looks good but for a 2+ hours flight the meal is rather small IMO. I recently flew on MH on a 1h30 flight in Business and they offered full meal service.

Well, but the F is really impressive compared to their C, no question! Also the F lounge looks great, espacially the bar, I think thats quite unique in the world of airline lounges.

But the service on the flight looks even better than the service in the Lounge, having a bed AND a seat for yourself must be great, especially on a flight of 12+ hours!

Thanks for this nice report again,

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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:24 pm

Hi Gabriel,

What a fantastic report you made here, really enjoyed it!
Shame to see your trip started so chaotic with the check-in experience in Minsk.
Your J flight looks OK, although I agree it is nice to have 2 options on such a flight. Love the Embraers however!
Your F flight looks amazing! From the delicious looking food to the great crew. That cabin looks so nice, warm and cozy. The bed is a definite plus, I can see how you were able to sleep 9 hours in there 
The only real downside is the awful service in the FCL & FCT. Hopefully it was just a one off experience..

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was very happy to be able to get these flights. The MSQ-FRA flight as it was the Embraer jet, my favourite shorthual aircraft. The FRA-EZE for a number of reasons:
1) A ride on the upper deck of the 747
2) Being able to use the renowned First Class lounges and terminal in FRA, along with chauffeur driven transfers
3) Enjoying the only First Class with a proper seat and a proper full flat bed
4) The FRA-EZE, at 7132 miles, clocked in at a comfortable +13 hours, and with an evening departure, and morning arrival, I’d be able to properly enjoy a dinner, long rest, then breakfast, rather than having a hurried nap

All very good reasons!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was unsure if the aircraft were “secret” or part of a photo-friendly spotters area. As such, I was a bit cautious with photos. As I still had my suitcase, and there was no path, I just walked down the main road from the terminal!

Amazing to see those planes right in front of the airport!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It didn’t take long, however, for me to realise a fairly major issue, and something that would reoccur throughout my 5-odd hour stay in both the FCL and FCT….nearly everything was waiter service, and there were just not enough staff. The FCL really put the wait into waiter. Not very first class.

Such a shame..

Thanks for sharing this great report!

cheers,

Brendan
 
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RE: #2, Lufthansa First Class - Minsk To Buenos Aires

Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:56 pm

Quoting emek96 (Reply 43):

Great report!

Thanks Elias!!

Quoting emek96 (Reply 43):
I spent at least 1 hour on it to read everthing and to see all the pics!

Ha, well, there were quite a few photos

Quoting emek96 (Reply 43):
LH Business not seems to be very good, the (cold) meal on your flight to FRA looks good but for a 2+ hours flight the meal is rather small IMO. I recently flew on MH on a 1h30 flight in Business and they offered full meal service.

That's what I thought - a bit milimalist for a 2 hour flight

Quoting emek96 (Reply 43):
But the service on the flight looks even better than the service in the Lounge, having a bed AND a seat for yourself must be great, especially on a flight of 12+ hours!

Yup, it was pretty excellent.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 44):
What a fantastic report you made here, really enjoyed it!

Thanks Brendan

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 44):
Your J flight looks OK, although I agree it is nice to have 2 options on such a flight. Love the Embraers however!

I love the Ejets too

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 44):
Your F flight looks amazing! From the delicious looking food to the great crew. That cabin looks so nice, warm and cozy. The bed is a definite plus, I can see how you were able to sleep 9 hours in there

It really was a wonderful flight

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 44):
The only real downside is the awful service in the FCL & FCT. Hopefully it was just a one off experience..

I know, I hope it was an anomoly

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 44):
Thanks for sharing this great report!

Thanks for reading and commenting Brendan
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