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LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:55 pm

2014-02 South Africa - Flights


Route, courtesy of www.gcmap.com

Background

Late in 2013, my wife and I were considering when to take our next trip to South Africa to visit the family. As it happened, there was an error fare giving a very good price (about £300, departing Dublin, arriving Paris, via Seychelles, on Etihad - my brother in law and wife took advantage of this for a trip a few weeks later). After some consideration, we decided against this, mainly due to the numerous connections that the children would be subjected to. Given that we were now interested in booking something for the February half term, we looked on more direct routes and found a good price on Lufthansa, £430 each to Johannesburg. We realised that now in the UK there are fines for parents who take their children out of school for a holiday, so the plan was that my wife and daughter would fly out one weekend, with my son Matthew and I staying at home until the following Thursday, when we would fly out to join them. We'd spend the week together, and all fly back the following weekend. Coincidently, Matthew was "ill" on the Thursday and Friday, so he couldn't attend school.

The day before my wife and daughter's departure, we drove to London to my wife's brother's house, and stayed the night with them, and the following day we drive to Heathrow. The travellers departed, and Matthew and I went to Myrtle Ave to watch planes for a while. We lasted about 5 minutes before I was told it was too cold, and we went to McDonalds for lunch, before heading back to Norwich.

Date: 13/02/2014
Flight: LH911
Route: LHR-FRA
Aircraft: D-AISG

The day to depart was upon us, the first time I would fly alone with my son. We left home in the morning, had lunch at the KFC at South Mimms services, and arrived at the Long Stay in good time. I'd booked this during a Winter Off-Peak sale, so parking for 10 days cost only about £30, considerably less than the regular price of £22 per day. The shuttle bus to Terminal 1 took a few minutes to arrive, but as we were waiting under the approach path it was ok   Bag drop off was easy and painless after I'd checked in online, and we were through security, despite taking some time as I had my camera, video camera, two smartphones and two Android tablets, with all their associated cables and chargers.

First stop after security was to visit the play area. This is an enclosed area, actually two areas depending on age, with a full time staff member checking children in and out of the only entrance, with some seats for parents. A very good idea!


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Play area

We then had a look along the whole terminal, but the only window I could see was a single one in Cafe Nero, which was already taken. We had a juice each anyway, with half a view.

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Cafe Nero

Finally our boarding gate appeared on the FIDS, so we could make our way down the pier to the holding area. We were invited to board first, with the premium passengers, presumably because of Matthew's age. He was very well behaved in the holding area, playing a game on one of the tablets.

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Out of the window at our plane

The crew welcomed us, and gave Matthew a colouring and puzzle book and pencils, and we made our way to our seats. Matthew had the window, and I the middle.

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Matthew doing the puzzles. He'd completed the book in about 10 minutes, though to be fair it was aimed at younger children.

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View from the window

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Plenty of legroom

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Actually, not so much!

The taxi to the active runway, 27R, was surprisingly quick, and the take off was like a rocket. We climbed and turned around to the left, to head towards the European mainland. The crew readied the service, and distributed the snack. As with my last Lufthansa flight, they gave out the food to everyone, before starting again with the drinks. This time we were given a chicken and feta sandwich.

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The sandwich

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What is a Lufthansa flight without a Warsteiner?

Matthew didn't want his sandwich, so I kept it for later. (It was eventually eaten the next day)

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Matthew chose juice

The short flight was drawing to a close by now, and it was dark outside. The captain turned on the seatbelt lights, and the cabin lights were dimmed. Of course, Matthew chose this time to let me know that he needed a wee. Of course, we couldn't do anything except hold on and try distraction, so we watched everything outside the window, lights, cars on the roads, buildings and other aeroplanes once we'd touched down. We landed on the new runway and began the long taxi to the stand. At least we were on a gate position. As soon as the seatbelt lights were extinguished, we got up and made our way through the throngs of people in the aisle to the rear toilet to relieve Matthew's bladder, and then disembarked as pretty much everyone had already left the aircraft.

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Matt posing in front of our plane

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Our plane

We followed the signs for our next gate, it was one of the Z gates so we had to take the little train along. After getting off this, we walked for what seemed like ages along the Z-gate corridor, until we found a little play area, where Matt spent some enjoyable minutes climbing and generally letting off steam.

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Play area

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View out of the play area window

After some time playing, we went into the bathroom and Matt changed into his pjamas "onesie" - makes it so much easier on board.

Date: 13/02/2014
Flight: LH572
Route: FRA-JNB
Aircraft: D-AIME

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Our aircraft at gate

Boarding was easy, and we were invited to be amongst the first to board, as Matt was young enough. We had to make our way all the way down the aircraft to the very back - the penultimate row. We settled in for the long journey. I explained to Matt how the TV worked, I think this was his highlight - unlimited TV watching!

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Matt watching cartoons on the TV

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Matt's onesie, and Angel Bear. Plenty of legroom!

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Safety card

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View forward on boarding

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Across the wide body

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One of the three external cameras you could choose to view

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Out of the window - by now it was raining

Eventually boarding was complete, and doors closed (I assume, as we were too far away to see). Pushback was slow, and we eventually rumpled away to take off on the perpendicular runway (I forget its designation). All this time Matt was engrossed in the cartoons, even though there were only 2x 90 minute collections and a movie - Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs 2 - that he wanted to watch.

Soon it was dinner time, and Matt's children's meal arrived first, as one of the special meals. Not being too hungry, and also quite fussy (as I was at his age) he only ate the bread roll and drank the juice. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture, but you can see the edge of his, next to mine - which was surprisingly tasty, chicken in mushroom sauce with rice and peas, a salad, bread, and an apple cake.

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Meal pic

Eventually around 1am (midnight UK time) Matt went to sleep - very late, but as he was tired he slept well enough in the seat. He was only woken by the breakfast service, again his was first.

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Children's breakfast

The children's breakfast consisted of a pancake with fruit and jam, a roll with Nutella, and a strawberry yoghurt mousse in the shape of a butterfly with waffle wings and Smarties. Matt only ate the Smarties. I'd told him before about hot days and on aeroplanes, you must drink lots, so he did drink his juice. The crew kindly brought a cup of milk as well for him. My breakfast was ok, omelette with potatoes, spinach and a sausage.

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Airborne over Africa

After clearing away the breakfast things, there was just a short while until descent started. Matt watching the same cartoons again. There was a smooth landing, and we taxied to the gate for disembarking. This is where the Whalejet fails - it was a good 20 minutes before we at the back even started moving to leave the aircraft. Naturally small bladders were suffering, so we found respite in a WC before heading to passport control.

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Big engines

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Our plane

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Matt looking at our plane

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On our way to the exit

As Matt is a dual national, we could use the South Africans passport queue, which was smaller and moved quicker than the International Visitors one. Our bags arrived, and we made our way out, to the Gautrain station. More details can be found here: http://www.signol.blogspot.co.uk/201...03/2014-02-south-africa-visit.html

Date: 17/02/2014
Flight: MN623
Route: JNB-DUR
Aircraft: ZS-ZWO

After a few pleasant days in Gauteng, it was time to head down towards Durban. This flight we would all be travelling together, myself, Tammy, Matthew, Amy, Granny and Grandpa. The cheapest by some margin was Kulula, so it was booked. For those that don't know, Kulula is a brand owned by Comair, who also operate as a British Airways franchise - they don't fly under their own name. Kulula is the LCC brand, with BOB and extra fees for selecting seats, though at ZAR35 (GBP2 per seat) this was a no brainer! Hold luggage is included, however they are more strict about the 20kg limit than BA.

There wasn't enough room for everyone in the car, so Tammy and Grandpa took the Gautrain, meeting the rest of us at the airport. After a quick lunch of Nandos, we checked in easily and passed security in time to join the boarding line. We had 2 rows of 3, window, middle and aisle, in front of each other.

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The BOB menu

The prices for the buy on board options were very cheap, especially from a European perspective, when you consider the exchange rate of ZAR18 per GBP (ZAR15 per EUR).

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Matt looking at the safety card

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Looking forward

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Obligatory legroom shot

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Out of the window

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Amy with her lollipop for takeoff, under strict instruction not to suck it until we got to the runway

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Coy Amy

Not much can really be said about the flight itself. It was short, under an hour, and cloudy, so no views. The crew did a BOB run in the short cruise, where we bought some juice and chocolate eggs. Landing was smooth, and we soon arrived into King Shaka International Airport.

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DUR arrivals

After a week in Durban with Granny and Grandpa, it was time for us to return to the UK. See the other blog post (link above) for more pictures. This time we would fly Mango, the LCC brand owned by South African Airways, up to Johannesburg, before continuing on Lufthansa.

Date: 21/02/2014
Flight: JE248
Route: DUR-JNB
Aircraft: ZS-SJG

On the way to the airport, Tammy and Granny took out hire car to try and find a part for a sewing machine, and Grandpa took myself and the children straight to the airport. We were delayed in the roadworks at the new junction of the N2 and M19 Umgeni Rd, though as we'd left in plenty of time we still had 90 minutes before departure. Though we still waited for Tammy and Granny! They eventually arrived with an hour before departure, so we headed straight to the bag drop, said our goodbyes, and passed through security.

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DUR departures

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DUR FIDS

By this time boarding was well under way, and it was a full flight. A stewardess was asking people to gate check all hand luggage, but I pleaded my case that our soft bag was squashable, and also had the children's toys and books in. I was allowed to keep it, as long as it would fit (in any case, it could go under one of the chilren's seats).

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Hello Amy!

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Matt reading the safety card again

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Forward view on boarding

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Gate neighbours

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We were right at the back of the plane

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Note the WiFi dome on the fuselage roof and advert on the engine

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The smallest legroom of any South African airline, not helped with the sippee cup!

Another easy flight, again short. Take off was powerful, the children fine with their lollipops. Another overcast day meant there were no views of the Drakensberg mountains today.

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Cloudy

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Starting the service

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We brought our own IFE for the children

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BOB menu

When the stewardess arrived at our row, I asked what fruit juice they had. "Mango of course!" I bought a couple for the children.

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Drinking fresh mango juice

We had to circle a couple of times before landing. Then followed a bizarre occurrence. We taxied to a remote stand opposite the International terminal, and parked. Steps were brought, the doors opened, and we were allowed to disembark. But there were no busses, so everyone just milled around outside the plane on the tarmac. There were no problems taking pictures!

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Disembarking

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Milling around

After about 10 minutes, 3 busses arrived to take everyone to the domestic arrivals.

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Everyone on the busses

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On the bus

All our luggage arrived, despite the short time between checkin and departure, and we headed out. I'd arranged to meet up with Léonard, aka EastAfSpotter, who was on holiday in southern Africa, overnighting in Johannesburg before heading on to Cape Town in the morning.

Date: 21/02/2014
Flight: LH573
Route: JNB-FRA
Aircraft: D-AIMA

I couldn't see Léonard as we left the domestic arrivals, but we'd said we'd have a bite to eat at the Spur on the mezzanine level. Just walking along someone asked if I was Rob - great to finally meet you Léonard! We headed first of all to the Lufthansa desks to check in, which was a relatively painless operation, despite the fact that we were travelling on two separate tickets. At least we had checked in online the previous day, so we knew we had our seats. No issues like with Air France a couple of years ago! We then all went to the Spur and ate, chatting and stopping the children from choking each other. After a pleasant hour or so, we bade farewell to Léonard, and went through security to find our gate.

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Tammy and the children waiting

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Coutesy of Léonard, aka EastAfSpotter

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Getting ready to board

Premium passengers, and families with young children were invited to board first, which we did. We were near the back of the plane. Given the two tired children, we were sitting in two rows, with a stranger on the aisle in front, and by the window behind.

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One of the three cameras

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Seats

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Matthew already engrossed in the TV

Boarding complete, we pushed back and taxiied out. Naturally, at this point, Matt declares he needed a wee, despite using the facility in the terminal immediately before boarding. Sorry, I tell him, there's nothing we can do until the seatbelt light goes out. We take off, and being a lumbering Airbus A380, and a hot and high JNB, we climb very slowly. Adding to the problem, some light turbulence starts. All the while I'm told Matt is on the verge of an accident. I then did the only thing possible. Using a blanket for modesty, I slipped a nappy onto him, which then caused enormous relief all round. A few minutes later, the turbulence ended, and the crew started the service round.

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Snacks and Warsteiner

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Evening meal

I forget what the meal or options were, or the children's option. It looks like chicken from the photo.

The night passed peacefully, Matt and Amy spending ages watching their own TVs before drifting off to sleep, the same for myself and Tammy. Before landing, breakfast was distributed - but I was tired and groggy, and forgot to photograph it. I recall it not being very substantial, as after we landed, we headed to McDo for a topup breakfast.

After landing, we had to take the little train from the Z gates to the central area, and clear security again. Despite there being large queues, there was a system whereby families could use a different security point round the corner, which was closed off by a glass wall. This was very helpful, and we cleared quickly, and went to find McDo to sit and have a hot drink.

Date: 22/02/2014
Flight: LH902
Route: FRA-LHR
Aircraft: D-AIZZ

After locating the gate for our next flight, on to Heathrow, I noticed the Air India Boeing 787 at a nearby gate.

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AI 787

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Amy watching the tarmac action

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Amy still watching

When we finally boarded, I noticed that we had one of the newest in the LH fleet, fitted with sharklets, only 4 months old at this point.

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Wing with sharklets

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New seats

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Legroom

The flight was uneventful. Breakfast was a granola cereal with a plain yoghurt, which I kept and ate later at home. We had to hold over north-east London for a while, and at one point I spotted 5 other aircraft in the air, in view, at the same time (including one having just taken off from LCY). Landing was smooth, and we were soon outside with our luggage on the shuttle bus back to the long term car park to drive home.

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Lufthansa breakfast

Conclusion. Lufthansa are good, and I wouldn't hesitate to fly them again. It was a shame to have to drive to London for the flight though, but on this occasion the price was so much better than flying from NWI. FRA as a connecting airport was ok, better than CDG but not as good as AMS.
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:22 pm

Great report, so many memories! Looks like you encountered some decent playgrounds along the way - aren't they great for burning off a kid's energy! And tablets are another fantastic accessory. We got in trouble for not taking ours last trip in the hope that Alex would pay more attention to the outside world.

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
We realised that now in the UK there are fines for parents who take their children out of school for a holiday

Matt is in school already? It's so cruel to punish families like that. Kids often a lot more travelling than sitting in a classroom and fares are prohibitive around school holidays. But then I'm sure most ministers and policy makers probably went to schools with trips to ski resorts and their parents flew them business class...

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
The children's breakfast consisted of a pancake with fruit and jam, a roll with Nutella, and a strawberry yoghurt mousse in the shape of a butterfly with waffle wings and Smarties.

I'd forgotten you can order special meals for kids - might have been handy last flight with Qantas. Then again, the last time we ordered a kids meal he preferred ours...
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:51 pm

Darling little children  
 
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:17 pm

Hi,
A great trip report here. Seems like you all had a brilliant time!

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
It's so cruel to punish families like that

I agree with you here. It's only quite new, since September 2013. The only way to avoid it is if it is an 'exceptional circumstance' (they don't' say what they are unsurprisingly!). My aunt got a fine for taking her children out of school 1 day before the start of the holidays, they are that strict!

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
and at one point I spotted 5 other aircraft

Nice! The joys of flying over London  .

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
We brought our own IFE for the children

An essential piece of hand luggage nowadays  . I can never travel without my tablet and laptop, no matter where I go, how short the flight is I have to have them with me!

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
New seats

I've seen quite a lot of TR's on here recently with new LH seats with safety cards still in wallets etc. Are LH doing a fleet replacement scheme or something?

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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:35 pm

Hi Robin, an enjoyable read. LH seem pretty average here, though nice to hear you had good crew.
Interesting parts on Mango & Kulula as well.
Overall, a lovely time had it seems. I do want to visit SA and may consider LH as my carrier.
Thanks for sharing, Adam
 
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:21 am

Hello Robin,

Very nice TR including nice pics on interesting carriers and aircrafts.
LH did a good job with priority boarding, kids pack, kid meals served first... if the price is attractive too, then it's a win-win situation.
It's useful to have a comparison between those two lcc on this domestic sector. Both products are fine and it looks like the BOB is cheaper with Mango, moreover you can connect to the wifi inflight. Do you remember the fares on both airlines?

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
Plenty of legroom
Quoting signol (Thread starter):
Actually, not so much!

LOL

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
Matt watching the same cartoons again.

Children seem to like repetition, I think it's how they learn, so they cling to what is familiar... even us, adults do with some programmes, airlines... etc etc  .

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
As Matt is a dual national, we could use the South Africans passport queue, which was smaller and moved quicker than the International Visitors one.

Excellent benefit for you!

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
though at ZAR35 (GBP2 per seat) this was a no brainer! Hold luggage is included.

Very true, and quiet unusual for a low cost airline.

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
I was allowed to keep it, as long as it would fit

A kind gesture from the staff   !

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
When the stewardess arrived at our row, I asked what fruit juice they had. "Mango of course!"

So obvious haha!

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
We taxied to a remote stand opposite the International terminal, and parked. Steps were brought, the doors opened, and we were allowed to disembark. But there were no busses, so everyone just milled around outside the plane on the tarmac.

How strange, i guess in Europe they would keep the door closed and everybody inside.

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
great to finally meet you Léonard!

So do i, and once again thank you very much Rob for the lovely meal at Spur   .

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
Despite there being large queues, there was a system whereby families could use a different security point round the corner, which was closed off by a glass wall. This was very helpful,

Great feature!

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
I noticed that we had one of the newest in the LH fleet, fitted with sharklets, only 4 months old at this point.

Very lucky to log a new plane.


Thank you very much for sharing, and looking forward to reading more from you  
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:51 pm

Hi, R.,

a really good read about you´re travel with kids experiences. And it seems they are well educated travellers!.
LH looks like ok and also the domestics, interesting to follow.

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
Matt reading the safety card again

It seems he´s on the right way for a good A.net future.
Pilot´s school is allowed from age 14, at least in Germany!

Greetings,
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:35 pm

Loved this TR! Highly enjoyed it, and that Warsteiner looks great!
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:32 pm

Hey Robin  

Great report. A fun Family TR really enjoyed it.

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
Matthew and I went to Myrtle Ave to watch planes for a while. We lasted about 5 minutes before I was told it was too cold, and we went to McDonalds for lunch, before heading back to Norwich.

Still in training.   Next time maybe bribe with a Happy Meal eating it Al Fresco by the runway  

LH food looks better than I thought. I have not flown on them for a while last time was FRA-MIA on the 380 which I enjoyed.

Food was quite decent too.


Regards

Philip  
 
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:22 pm

Hi there Robin. Nice report from LH there. I wouldn't mind giving them a go long haul, but they're in the wrong alliance so it doesn't make sense to me unless I fly in J. Having said that if the price is right...

Also the two South African carriers look good enough too on the short hops.
 
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:51 pm

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies!

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
Great report, so many memories!

Thanks allrite! Yes, they do grow up so fast!

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
Matt is in school already?

Yes, he's been at school for a full year now, starting his second year in September.

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
Kids often a lot more travelling than sitting in a classroom and fares are prohibitive around school holidays

I know. I really think they should differentiate between a bucket and spade holiday to Benidorm and visiting family and other "educational" trips.

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 2):
Darling little children

Thanks bobloblaw!

Quoting regaviation (Reply 3):
The only way to avoid it is if it is an 'exceptional circumstance' (they don't' say what they are unsurprisingly!). My aunt got a fine for taking her children out of school 1 day before the start of the holidays, they are that strict!

Another family in Matthew's school had a family wedding in South Africa - that was allowed, for a 3 week holiday. The family don't even live there, they just chose it as a cheap wedding holiday destination with good weather and English speaking!

Quoting regaviation (Reply 3):
An essential piece of hand luggage nowadays

Absolutely!

Quoting regaviation (Reply 3):
Are LH doing a fleet replacement scheme or something?

I believe so.

Quoting ab486 (Reply 4):
an enjoyable read

Thanks Adam!

Quoting ab486 (Reply 4):
I do want to visit SA and may consider LH as my carrier

Absolutely do visit SA. Lufthansa are a reasonable carrier, in Y, probably average. But I've yet to fly any of the middle eastern ones.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Very nice TR including nice pics on interesting carriers and aircrafts.

Thanks Léonard!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Both products are fine and it looks like the BOB is cheaper with Mango, moreover you can connect to the wifi inflight. Do you remember the fares on both airlines?

Kulula cost ZAR 532, and Mango was ZAR 888 - but Kulula was more expensive than Mango on that day.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Children seem to like repetition, I think it's how they learn, so they cling to what is familiar... even us, adults do with some programmes, airlines... etc etc

Indeed!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
How strange, i guess in Europe they would keep the door closed and everybody inside.

I'm sure. It did seem strange, nearly 200 people milling around on the tarmac!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Thank you very much for sharing, and looking forward to reading more from you

Thanks!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
a really good read about you´re travel with kids experiences.

Thanks Markus!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
It seems he´s on the right way for a good A.net future.

Hopefully so!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
Pilot´s school is allowed from age 14, at least in Germany!

That would be great, but probably too expensive for us. Especially as I'd want a PPL before I pay for my son to have one!

Quoting JFKMan (Reply 7):

Loved this TR! Highly enjoyed it, and that Warsteiner looks great!

Thanks JFKMan! It is nice, especially to have a glass bottle on board!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Great report. A fun Family TR really enjoyed it.

Thanks Philip! Glad you enjoyed it.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Next time maybe bribe with a Happy Meal eating it Al Fresco by the runway

Ha, I might have to try that next time  
Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
LH food looks better than I thought

It was ok. Average for Y.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
Nice report from LH there.

Thanks James.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
but they're in the wrong alliance so it doesn't make sense to me unless I fly in J

Ha. Personally, I would give the points a value, and if the fare is cheaper (taking into account the points return) then it's worth it. At the time having no status on any alliance, it was purely a cost matter, and GBP430 for a return was a great price. Now I have *G on A3 would be even better to fly LH, but I think our next trip will almost certainly be on KL again. If only for a Flying Blue status match offer  

Thanks all for your kind words!

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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:00 pm

Hi Robin,

Great report you made here on your trip to South Africa. Looks like you had an enjoyable set of flights, very interesting to follow both the LCC in SA as well. Which one would you rate better, Kulula or Mango?
Your children look adorable!

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
We realised that now in the UK there are fines for parents who take their children out of school for a holiday

Really? Never heard of that before..

Thanks for sharing!

cheers,

Brendan
 
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:01 pm

Hi Signol,

nice report, good to see you had a pleasant journey on LH.

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
What is a Lufthansa flight without a Warsteiner?

A better one...  

Quoting signol (Thread starter):
next to mine - which was surprisingly tasty, chicken in mushroom sauce with rice and peas, a salad, bread, and an apple cake.
Quoting signol (Thread starter):
The children's breakfast consisted of a pancake with fruit and jam, a roll with Nutella, and a strawberry yoghurt mousse in the shape of a butterfly with waffle wings and Smarties.

All these meal look quite good.


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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:41 pm

Hello Robin,

Great report! Nice to read about LH's service to South Africa. Looks like a decent product (also for the kids) and it seemed like you had an enjoyable trip. Thanks for sharing!
 
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RE: LH To South Africa, MN, JE

Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:21 pm

Thanks for the continued comments!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Great report you made here on your trip to South Africa

Thanks Brendan

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Which one would you rate better, Kulula or Mango?

Both are good, though basic LCC service. Both crews were cheerful, but Kulula had slightly more legroom!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 11):
Your children look adorable!

Thanks   All from my wife!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
nice report, good to see you had a pleasant journey on LH.

Thanks PlaneHunter!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
All these meal look quite good.

They tasted pretty good too. Obviously not restaurant quality but certainly for a plane.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 13):
Great report! Nice to read about LH's service to South Africa

Thanks Robert!

signol
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