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Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:24 pm



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Intro
In early 2013, my wife and I decided to go on vacation to Miami Beach. The second half of October was our travel period of choice, just after the hurricane season. In order to ensure a relaxed outward journey, we burned some miles and booked Nuremberg-Zurich-Miami in Swiss' Business Class. I had already tried the carrier's great long-haul Business Class product on the A340-300, but not yet on the A330-300. The connecting flight would be operated by Augsburg Airways, just eleven days before its shutdown.

Homeward bound, we added a one-day stopover in Boston. Alitalia offered attractive one-way Economy Class fares and we decided to fly Boston-Rome-Munich (long-haul sector operated by an A330-200), complemented by Munich-Nuremberg on Lufthansa CityLine. Delta was the carrier of choice for the journey from Florida to Boston - mostly because it would operate the ever-exciting 757-200 on the Fort Lauderdale-Atlanta and Atlanta-Boston sectors. Flights from Miami were also more expensive.

Finally, we decided to make a daytrip to the Bahamas during our stay in Florida. Both Nassau and Freeport seemed to be attractive destinations - but in the end we booked Fort Lauderdale-Freeport-Fort Lauderdale because flying times were simply better and I would get two new airlines instead of one: Bahamasair and Silver Airways. All flights on the map:

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Part III of my latest trip report series will feature the return journey on Delta and Alitalia as well as the short visit to Boston. Parts I & II can be found here: Swiss A330 To Sunshine State: ZRH-MIA In Business (by PlaneHunter Apr 21 2014 in Trip Reports) Freeport Just For Fun: Bahamasair & Silver Airways (by PlaneHunter Jun 15 2014 in Trip Reports)

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:26 pm

Wednesday, October 2013
Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - Atlanta (ATL)
Delta Air Lines DL2326
Scheduled times: 09:00-10:48
Actual times: 08:59-10:40
Flight duration: 01:19 (hrs)
Distance: 581 miles
Economy Class, seat 40B

Boeing 757-251
N552NW (s/n 975)
First delivered to Northwest Airlines in 07/2001


1st flight on N552NW
11th 757-200 flight
14th 757 flight



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After a relaxing week in Miami Beach and Sunny Isles, it was time to say goodbye to Florida. Traffic was rather low in the early morning, so the taxi dropped us off at the terminal earlier than expected, more than two hours before departure. There were plenty of check-in kiosks and staffed counters, so we could go airside soon.

Most windows in the gate area were fogged up, so both spotting and taking pictures were rather difficult. Here's the best shot of the plane I could get:


Our plane was former Northwest N552NW, equipped with winglets - one of 133 active frames in the world's largest 757-200 fleet.

I'm not a fan of leather seats, but those were okay for the short hop:



Legroom was acceptable, too:



Delta has eight different 757-200 configurations - version N is one of them:



Inflight magazine...



...including buy-on-board options...



...and a very detailed fleet information page:



Boeing 767-400ER standing out from the crowd:



Impressive route map:



There were no PTVs, but the plane was equipped with Wi-Fi...



...and it was indeed working (picture taken later during the flight):



Nice day for flying - I could only agree with the captain's statement in his pre-departure announcement:



We left the gate one minute ahead of schedule and soon met a Bahamasair 737-500 - it would look so much better in the carrier's old livery:



Goodbye, Florida!





The cabin was packed on this morning flight to Delta's mega hub:



Biscuits and drinks were served...


...and Delta's support for the Breast Cancer Research Foundation was not only apparent on the napkin - the flight attendants even wore pink uniform pieces.

On approach:



We touched the ground after a flying time of 1 hour and 19 minutes...



...and arrived at the gate 8 minutes ahead of schedule. Finally I could take a decent picture of the bird:



What to do at ATL? Spotting, of course! I found a nice location where I could see numerous aircraft taxiing in and out. Cool 757 climbout:





Wednesday, October 2013
Atlanta (ATL) - Boston (BOS)
Delta Air Lines DL2288
Scheduled times: 12:27-14:55
Actual times: 12:43-14:55
Flight duration: 01:44 (hrs)
Distance: 946 miles
Economy Class, seat 43F

Boeing 757-232
N683DA (s/n 533)
Delivered in 03/1993


1st flight on N683DA
12th 757-200 flight
15th 757 flight



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Our Boston-bound plane turned out to be N683DA, an original Delta bird without winglets:





Pretty similar interior, same seats without PTVs:



Slightly different safety card:



Shortly after boarding had been completed, the captain made an announcement and referred to a problem with a "fuel xxx" - I didn't understand the sentence completely. Then a mechanic showed up under the wing and started working:



Fortunately, the problem could get fixed within a short while and we left the gate just 16 minutes behind schedule. The MD-90 looks really cool from behind, doesn't it?



We took off after a relatively quick taxi process and passed the Renaissance Airport Hotel which is excellent for spotting:



Here's the AirTran camp - a brand which will be gone soon, unfortunately:



Great views of downtown Atlanta during climbout:







Peanuts were offered on this afternoon flight - and I had the first ginger ale of the day:



I wasn't hungry, but I wanted to buy something out of curiosity. Here's what they had on offer:







Finally, I decided to order a snack box for $7:



It contained a nice mix of items, but I can tell that the American Nutella version cannot match the German one...



Another packed cabin, but this time equipped with overhead screens:



The weather didn't look good at all around Boston...





Star Alliance, Skyteam and Oneworld lined up next to each other:



Despite the initial delay, we arrived at the gate exactly on time:


Before disembarking, we could see our checked luggage being unloaded...but later at the carousel, only my wife's suitcase would show up. After all other passengers had left, I put my boarding pass under a dedicated scanner in the arrival hall and according to the system, my suitcase had been delivered to the carousel. So what the heck had happened?  Confused

We went to the nearby Delta office, spoke up and the friendly lady told us that someone else may have picked up my suitcase accidentally. "That happens every day", she explained and asked me to file a report. Of course I was really pissed now - but what can you do? The lady was quite optimistic that the case would be brought back on the same day and she promised that it would be delivered straight to our hotel...well, I must admit that I wasn't too optimistic.  embarrassed 

Then we went to the Hilton hotel which is connected directly to the airport. Even though it belongs to the most expensive hotels we have ever booked, the room was very disappointing - tasteless and worn. Definitely the worst Hilton room I have ever stayed in:


Due to the disappearance of my suitcase, I wasn't in good mood on that late afternoon. After walking around at the airport for a while and having dinner, we returned to the hotel where the receptionist surprised me with good news: My suitcase had meanwhile showed up again and had already been delivered! That's what I call a happy end!  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:27 pm

Beautiful Boston
On the next morning, we took the hotel shuttle to the nearby water taxi dock. The weather had turned beautiful over night and Boston's skyline looked amazing from there:



10 minutes later, we were approaching Rowes Wharf:





It was still rather quiet in that part of the city:



Lovely colors, lovely scenery:









We decided to have breakfast at Quincy Market where you can find lots of good stuff:



Half an hour later, we continued walking around in the morning sun:









What's going on over there at BOS? No worries, firefighters conducting training exercise:



By noon, we returned to the dock near our hotel. I can only recommend Rowes Wharf Water Taxi:



The Hilton looks really nice from outside...



...and the same can be said about the lobby:



View from our room:



At least I could spot one registration from there, JAL's Dreamliner JA828J:



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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:29 pm

Thursday, October 2013
Boston (BOS) - Rome (FCO)
Alitalia AZ615
Scheduled times: 17:10-07:10
Actual times: 17:00-06:59
Flight duration: 07:14 (hrs)
Distance: 4093 miles
Economy Class, seat 35C

Airbus A330-202
EI-EJM (MSN 1308), named "Giovanni Battista Tiepolo"
Delivered in 05/2012


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We left the hotel in the early afternoon and went straight to the Alitalia check-in desks at Terminal E. Despite our low fare, we were offered an upgrade to the carrier's lie-flat Magnifica Class ($500 per person) or Classica Plus Premium Economy ($250 per person) on the transatlantic leg. However, we weren't in a spending mood and declined. The flight would only take some 7 hours and we would have a two-seater (pre-reserved free of charge after booking) - these prospects simply weren't bad enough.  Wink

After receiving our boarding passes, we went back to a staircase in the connecting passage between Terminals B and C. The location is great for spotting - hardly anybody needs to pass there, so you can use binoculars without worries:





There were long lines at security, but we had returned early enough. The gate area was very cramped, but the situation got better when Lufthansa commenced boarding for its 747-400 flight to Frankfurt. Alitalia had sent EI-EJM, one of the newer birds in the 12-strong A330-200 fleet:


By the way, I had never been worried that we would get one of the two ex-Air One aircraft which weren't yet equipped with new seats and PTVs back then. According to Flightradar24, AZ had never sent these planes to Boston, but only to Chicago and Toronto. And it seems the situation hasn't changed by now.

During boarding, I was positively surprised that the gate agent added my last name after scanning the boarding pass and thanking me. Several flight attendants provided a friendly welcome on board, speaking Italian.

The seats were fine initially...


...but my back would start hurting only a few hours later.

Seat backs equipped with video screen, USB port and coat hook:



Legroom (31 to 32 inches according to Seat Guru) wasn't generous, but acceptable for a 7 hour flight:



I can only wonder why Alitalia put the IFE boxes for both seats under the window seat:



The extra-legroom three-seaters in rows 34 and 35 would be used for crew rest purposes:





Handset:



Headphones:



Safety card:



Alitalia's Ulisse inflight magazine:



I couldn't find any obvious mistakes here...



...actually I was very surprised that they even mentioned the remaining A330 in Air One colors:



I know what a low-cost carrier is - but what is a "smart carrier"?



What would a seat pocket on an Italian aircraft be without a shopping guide?



British Airways 747-400 shining in the late afternoon sun:



We left the gate 10 minutes ahead of schedule and passed various business jets:



Front camera view:



AZ615 cleared for takeoff:



Great views of Boston shortly after liftoff:





How about some backyard spying?  Wink



What a lovely scenery:



Tasty rosemary crackers were offered along with drinks after a while. Other than on a JFK-FCO flight back in 2008, ginger ale was not available, so I ordered orange juice which is actually a rather tasty blood orange juice on Alitalia:



"Would you like beef or pasta?", a friendly flight attendant asked me during dinner service. I decided to try the former, but this is what I got surprisingly - definitely chicken:



My wife ordered pasta and did get pasta:


Anyway, we liked our meals both in terms of quality and quantity. Chicken breast, vegetables, sauce, potato salad and potato casserole, lasagna and cheese cake were really tasty. Definitely no deterioration since 2008. Well done, Alitalia!  thumbsup 

After dinner, it was time for a short walk. Most seats were occupied in the rear section:



Large-sized mirror enlarging the lavatory - not a bad idea and definitely worth a picture:



After dinner service had been completed, several flight attendants started occupying the crew rest area next to me and closed the curtain:


However, it was hard for me to get some rest because flight attendants kept moving in and out, kept opening and closing overhead bins and kept chatting behind their curtain...that was really disturbing, just like numerous passengers who kept passing all the time. Fortunately, it got better after an hour or so.

Alitalia's audio/video on-demand entertainment system offers a decent range of options. Main menu:



That was all I needed:







Due to the lack of drink rounds during the night, I kept visiting the galley where a kind of self-service bar had been set up:



Shortly after reaching continental Europe...



...the flight attendants sprung into action again and served a small breakfast:


While the biscuits were fine, I didn't like the non-fat yogurt and the dust-dry pastry. And unfortunately, Alitalia's coffee didn't taste as good as in earlier times either.

It was still pitch dark when we touched down at FCO at 06:31 in the morning after a flying time of 7 hours and 14 minutes. After taxiing for 4 minutes, the plane stopped in the middle of nowhere - at least that's what it looked like. It was pretty clear that we hadn't reached a parking position yet. Simply nothing happened for a while and I was wondering whether staff at FCO had started a sudden strike. The flight deck kept quiet (just like during the whole flight) and there was just a short announcement by the purser, asking passengers to remain seated. Finally, at 06:51 we started moving again and stopped at a gate position at 06:59. During disembarking I asked the purser about the stop and he replied that our gate position hadn't been available. Well, who knows...



Friday, October 2013
Rome (FCO) - Munich (MUC)
Alitalia AZ432
Scheduled times: 09:15-10:50
Actual times: 09:41-11:17
Flight duration: 01:16 (hrs)
Distance: 453 miles
Economy Class, seat 30A

Airbus A320-216
EI-DSJ (MSN 3295), named "Ignazio Silone"
First delivered to Air One in 11/2007


1st flight on EI-DSJ
50th A320-200 flight
97th A32X flight



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Transferring at Fiumicino Airport was not bad in general, but many areas are run down. It would also be a good idea to clean the windows in the gate area:



The letters on the tail indicated that we would fly on ex-Air One EI-DSJ, one of 50 A320s in the fleet:



Boarding commenced on time and friendly flight attendants welcomed us in the cabin. The leather seats were worn, but still comfortable enough:



PTVs were once installed on this bird, but they are unused and therefore just dead weight in these days:



While my screen remained black, my wife had to tolerate a constant flickering:



Legroom was absolutely sufficient:



Safety card:



Alitalia A321-100 parked next to us:



Boarding had been completed quickly, but the captain soon announced a delay of unknown duration, referring to air traffic control restrictions. I asked a flight attendant for further details and she told me that there were restrictions due to fog at Munich. Definitely bad news considering that we had to catch a connecting flight to Nuremberg, booked independently from our Alitalia flights.  thumbsdown 

Finally, we could leave the gate earlier than expected, only 26 minutes behind schedule, and taxied to the runway without further interruptions:



Nice scenery shortly after takeoff:



Back in 2008, I had received a tasty cake on AZ432, but those biscuits weren't bad either:



Flying over the Alps in clear skies is always a pleasure:







I also enjoyed the approach straight over Munich:



Olympic Park:



Very low clouds near the airport:






We finally arrived at the gate 27 minutes behind schedule which wasn't bad at all. Once we had our luggage, we went to Terminal 2 and quickly found out that there were hardly any delays and our flight to Nuremberg would depart on time. Lufthansa CityLine CRJ900 D-ACKB operated the last sector of our journey, flying time just 21 minutes. By the way, while Economy Class passengers could grab a chocolate bar during boarding, Business Class passengers even received a tray during the flight.

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:32 pm

Conclusion
Both hops on Delta were standard domestic flights with average crews, average seating comfort and average catering, but riding on the Boeing 757 was a pleasure as usual. PTVs would have been nice, but they're not essential on such short flights.

Alitalia had left a good impression on a long-haul journey in 2008 and I also rate this recent journey positively. Flight attendants and ground staff members were friendly and helpful, catering was decent (apart from the breakfast) and entertainment options were satisfying. However, seating comfort was not sufficient on the long-haul sector and I wouldn't want to spend 10 hours or more in such a seat. Let's wait and see how Alitalia's product will change under assistance of Etihad Airways.


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:28 pm

Excellent TR PH as usual,

Nice pictures of the Boston where you had a great weather, a lot of relevant informations provided and good choice for a Skyteam combo!
According to your report, I found AZ product at a decent level, meals look appetizing and it's nice from AZ to offer two types of "pasta"...   .
Too bad that as Italia's flag carrier, AZ's coffee tasted bland.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
We went to the nearby Delta office, spoke up and the friendly lady told us that someone else may have picked up my suitcase accidentally. "That happens every day", she explained and asked me to file a report. Of course I was really pissed now - but what can you do? The lady was quite optimistic that the case would be brought back on the same day and she promised that it would be delivered straight to our hotel...well, I must admit that I wasn't too optimistic.

Oh no!
Thankfully you got it promptly afterwards   . A good system in some countries in Africa (and probably elsewhere) is when airport staffs check passengers leaving the bagage reclaim hall to match the name on the bag with the tag on the ticket!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
so you can use binoculars without worries:

Is it really a suspicious behaviour to use them in an airport in the US?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
However, it was hard for me to get some rest because flight attendants kept moving in and out, kept opening and closing overhead bins and kept chatting behind their curtain...that was really disturbing, just like numerous passengers who kept passing all the time.

Thanks for advising against sitting from row 32 or 33 (?) onwards    .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
It would also be a good idea to clean the windows in the gate area:

Very true, i thought the exactly same when i transited through FCO in 2012!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Let's wait and see how Alitalia's product will change under assistance of Etihad Airways.

For sure AZ will benefit from it, how long, do you think, will it take?


Thank you very much for sharing the return leg, with some stunning shots of the Alps!
Looking forward to more  
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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:14 pm

Hello Udo,

what a long way home!
If you're looking for a really bad Hilton, i would recommend the Hilton Anchorage  
Nice to see that you enjoyed your Alitalia flight. During all these error fare times I had the pleasure to fly to Osaka and back on Alitalia and it really was a good flight, it was indeed a pleasure. I also found the crew rest quite a pity, actually I felt sorry for the crew flying over 12 hours that they need to rest there, while other airlines have proper sleeping areas, where you can really retreat. Other than that Alitalia is definitely an ok carrier longhaul. I also used them between FCO and Abu Dhabi and found the A330 really good.
Rome itself has quite long Schengen to Nonschengen connections. But the airport is not that bad in my opinion, as a lot of people say. The only thing that really gets crowded is the passport control, especially for non european passport holders....
 
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:09 pm

Awesome report, PlaneHunter! Glad to see you flew out of FLL again. Due to the presence of NK, B6, F9, G4, WN, and the crumbs of FL, legacy prices out of FLL are always shockingly low, even in First Class. For example, FLL-ATL-BOS-JFK-DTW-FLL can sometimes be had, all in First Class, for under $700...

Other than FLL, us South Floridians have PBI and MIA...PBI is quite far from FLL, sometimes not even worth the savings gained from flying out of Palm Beach, but also very nice--mall in the airport and check in puttings greens! MIA is a nice airport as well, but prices are high on non-AA carriers...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):

Most windows in the gate area were fogged up, so both spotting and taking pictures were rather difficult. Here's the best shot of the plane I could get:

Despite the warmth outside, a lot of people prefer their air conditioned rooms here to be frosty cold not only in the summer but also sometimes in the more chilly months of the year...I suspect the fog is produced when the cold glass meets the outside hot and humid air.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):

Delta has eight different 757-200 configurations - version N is one of them:

I've always wondered why Delta doesn't just consolidate the 757 fleet into one common subtype, but then again I've read that Delta is going to be retiring some of the oldest examples of the 752 and therefore, refreshing the cabins would be pointless...I believe version X is the one with PTVs.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):

...including buy-on-board options...

"Travel Treats" used to include a mini-deck of Delta-embossed playing cards, I wonder if they still do....?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):

Biscuits and drinks were served...

Unfortunately, you won't be served much more up in First Class, having done this route many times (mostly in F) you'll get a few rounds of the snack basket. Also, you'll have to physically ask the Y F/As if you want to utilize the BOB.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Here's the AirTran camp - a brand which will be gone soon, unfortunately:

  
Well, atleast I did catch one flight on them in J--N965AT was my only flight, solely to add AirTran FL to my log: AirTran Business Class Delta F FLL-ATL-CLE-ATL-FLL (by LPDAL Mar 10 2014 in Trip Reports)

Thanks again!

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:20 am

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Excellent TR PH as usual,

Hi Léonard, many thanks for your nice comments! Good to hear you liked it.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Nice pictures of the Boston where you had a great weather

We were lucky!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
According to your report, I found AZ product at a decent level, meals look appetizing and it's nice from AZ to offer two types of "pasta"..

Yes, there wasn't a major fault.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Too bad that as Italia's flag carrier, AZ's coffee tasted bland.

Must be disgusting for many Italians who are used to good coffee. AZ still had a good one in 2008.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Thankfully you got it promptly afterwards

  

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
A good system in some countries in Africa (and probably elsewhere) is when airport staffs check passengers leaving the bagage reclaim hall to match the name on the bag with the tag on the ticket!

Yes, too bad it doesn't exist everywhere around the globe. Believe it nor not, on another trip in March this year it happened again. Someone took my suitcase at MUC and left. I got it back in the end, but it was still very annoying. Details to follow in part II of my new series.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):

Is it really a suspicious behaviour to use them in an airport in the US?

Yes, there are enough people who rate binoculars suspicious. I have experienced that several times since 9/11.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Thanks for advising against sitting from row 32 or 33 (?) onwards

Row 32 should still be fine.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Very true, i thought the exactly same when i transited through FCO in 2012!

Who knows if these windows will ever be cleaned...well, maybe after some complaints by Etihad executives.  

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
For sure AZ will benefit from it, how long, do you think, will it take?

You never know. It will be interesting to see how other carriers and the EU will react to that deal.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Thank you very much for sharing the return leg, with some stunning shots of the Alps!

Thanks again!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 5):
Looking forward to more

I have started working on the next one...

Quoting reifel (Reply 6):
what a long way home!

Hi Reifel, thanks for your feedback! Yes, we made some stops, but it wasn't too bad with the stay at BOS.

Quoting reifel (Reply 6):
If you're looking for a really bad Hilton, i would recommend the Hilton Anchorage

Good to know! What exactly was so bad?

Quoting reifel (Reply 6):
Nice to see that you enjoyed your Alitalia flight. During all these error fare times I had the pleasure to fly to Osaka and back on Alitalia and it really was a good flight, it was indeed a pleasure.

Yes, I remember that hardly anyone of the "error fare travellers" complained about the product.

Quoting reifel (Reply 6):
I also found the crew rest quite a pity, actually I felt sorry for the crew flying over 12 hours that they need to rest there, while other airlines have proper sleeping areas, where you can really retreat.

I can only agree!

Quoting reifel (Reply 6):
Rome itself has quite long Schengen to Nonschengen connections. But the airport is not that bad in my opinion, as a lot of people say. The only thing that really gets crowded is the passport control, especially for non european passport holders....

There weren't any long lines back then, fortunately.

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
Awesome report, PlaneHunter!

Hi Colby, thank you very much! Good to know you enjoyed it.

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
Glad to see you flew out of FLL again. Due to the presence of NK, B6, F9, G4, WN, and the crumbs of FL, legacy prices out of FLL are always shockingly low, even in First Class. For example, FLL-ATL-BOS-JFK-DTW-FLL can sometimes be had, all in First Class, for under $700...

That's not bad indeed.

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
PBI is quite far from FLL, sometimes not even worth the savings gained from flying out of Palm Beach, but also very nice--mall in the airport and check in puttings greens

In have only been there for spotting by car, never landed/departed. How are the fares?

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
I suspect the fog is produced when the cold glass meets the outside hot and humid air.

   It had rained a lot during the night.

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
I've always wondered why Delta doesn't just consolidate the 757 fleet into one common subtype, but then again I've read that Delta is going to be retiring some of the oldest examples of the 752 and therefore, refreshing the cabins would be pointless...I believe version X is the one with PTVs.

Yes, the older frames will be retired in the near future, so not worth the effort.

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
"Travel Treats" used to include a mini-deck of Delta-embossed playing cards, I wonder if they still do....?

Interesting.

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
Unfortunately, you won't be served much more up in First Class, having done this route many times (mostly in F) you'll get a few rounds of the snack basket. Also, you'll have to physically ask the Y F/As if you want to utilize the BOB.

That's really disappointing - they could at least offer a proper breakfast or a sandwich plus salad on a 1:30 hrs flight.

Quoting lpdal (Reply 7):
Well, atleast I did catch one flight on them in J--N965AT was my only flight, solely to add AirTran FL to my log:

I flew FL once some years ago, I'm really glad about it. Will have a look at your report later.


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:29 am

Hello PH, very nice to see another story of yours, high quality as expected   Well, what’s better than 1 B757 flight? 2 B757 flights! Luckily you didn’t get the same frame twice but you did manage to get a wingletted and a non-wingletted one    Also AZ left a good impression on their A332 and Boston looked very nice in the late Oct sunshine.

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one of 133 active frames in the world's largest 757-200 fleet.

An impressive number, even more so if you see that the B757 is virutally extinct in Europe - aside from some charter airlines like Thomson, Condor,... Also not surprising given DL has about the largest aircraft fleet of any airline.

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Impressive route map

Impressive but messy as well...

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but the plane was equipped with Wi-Fi

A good thing. Did you use it and more importantly, was it free? (probably not...)

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he MD-90 looks really cool from behind, doesn't it?

It does!

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My suitcase had meanwhile showed up again and had already been delivered!

Ah, that’s good, there’s nothing more annoying when on a holiday. And sadly, these things happen quite often.

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By the way, I had never been worried that we would get one of the two ex-Air One aircraft which weren't yet equipped with new seats and PTVs back then. According to Flightradar24, AZ had never sent these planes to Boston, but only to Chicago and Toronto. And it seems the situation hasn't changed by now.

It’s important to do your research! Same here  

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I can only wonder why Alitalia put the IFE boxes for both seats under the window seat

Not 1 but 2 IFE boxes  Wow! No, the window seat is not to be preferred on a long journey...

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so I ordered orange juice which is actually a rather tasty blood orange juice on Alitalia

I remember that from my trip to NRT this was indeed a tasty drink.

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lasagna

A popular item it seems as we got this also 2 years ago on our way to Tokyo.

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my wife had to tolerate a constant flickering

How annoying!

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:51 am

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Hello PH, very nice to see another story of yours, high quality as expected

Hi Nils, thanks a lot for your comments! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Well, what’s better than 1 B757 flight? 2 B757 flights!

Absolutely!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Luckily you didn’t get the same frame twice but you did manage to get a wingletted and a non-wingletted one

Exactly, and an ex-NWA one and an original DL one. Would have been really bad to get the same frame twice.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Also AZ left a good impression on their A332 and Boston looked very nice in the late Oct sunshine.

Boston was nice indeed, but it's a very expensive city.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
An impressive number, even more so if you see that the B757 is virutally extinct in Europe - aside from some charter airlines like Thomson, Condor,...

Icelandair is another 757 fan and present at many European airports. But there aren't many others left. In the US, the number of active passenger planes will keep shrinking, too. At least the 757s will be popular as freighters for a long time.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
A good thing. Did you use it and more importantly, was it free? (probably not...)

No, it wasn't free of charge. I just logged onto the intro page.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Ah, that’s good, there’s nothing more annoying when on a holiday. And sadly, these things happen quite often.

Yes, happened to me again in March this year - at MUC!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
It’s important to do your research! Same here

  

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Not 1 but 2 IFE boxes Wow! No, the window seat is not to be preferred on a long journey...

Definitely not.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
I remember that from my trip to NRT this was indeed a tasty drink.

And it's a quite rare drink in the skies.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
A popular item it seems as we got this also 2 years ago on our way to Tokyo.

Standard on AZ it seems.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
How annoying!

  


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:03 am

Wow the dinner you got on AZ looks a lot better than what I got on SWISS or what UNITED / AA serve.
 
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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:23 am

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 11):
Wow the dinner you got on AZ looks a lot better than what I got on SWISS or what UNITED / AA serve.

The meals were indeed very good.


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:32 am

Hi Planehunter!

Thanks for another excellent report with excellent pictures !

Flights on DL look okay; fairly short but nice.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
and a very detailed fleet information page:

Looks nice !

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Finally, I decided to order a snack box for $7:

Looks like a lot things and great variety for $7.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Due to the disappearance of my suitcase, I wasn't in good mood on that late afternoon. After walking around at the airport for a while and having dinner, we returned to the hotel where the receptionist surprised me with good news: My suitcase had meanwhile showed up again and had already been delivered! That's what I call a happy end!   

Glad you got it back so soon. The ramp people must have off-loaded the bag but someone forgot to drop the bag on the carrousel.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
On the next morning, we took the hotel shuttle to the nearby water taxi dock. The weather had turned beautiful over night and Boston's skyline looked amazing from there:

Great and scenic way to get to town !

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
View from our room:

Very impressive from a spotter's point of view…..

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
The seats were fine initially...

The seats actually look uncomfortable; too bad that was also the case.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
I can only wonder why Alitalia put the IFE boxes for both seats under the window seat:

Strange

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Front camera view:

Nice with the camera view!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Tasty rosemary crackers were offered along with drinks after a while. Other than on a JFK-FCO flight back in 2008, ginger ale was not available, so I ordered orange juice which is actually a rather tasty blood orange juice on Alitalia:

Very nice drink service! I had the same when I flew LAX-FCO about two years ago.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
"Would you like beef or pasta?"

Both meals look very good but I always stay away from pasta since it rarely taste great when heated up like on an airplane.

Thanks again for this great report and looking forward to the next report!

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:40 am

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Homeward bound, we added a one-day stopover in Boston. Alitalia offered attractive one-way Economy Class fares and we decided to fly Boston-Rome-Munich (long-haul sector operated by an A330-200), complemented by Munich-Nuremberg on Lufthansa CityLine. Delta was the carrier of choice for the journey from Florida to Boston - mostly because it would operate the ever-exciting 757-200 on the Fort Lauderdale-Atlanta and Atlanta-Boston sectors. Flights from Miami were also more expensive.

Great routing for a trip home, however the cabin of those 752-planes to Delta looks like they are lost in the 90s. But maybe thats why they are so popular, who knows?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Then we went to the Hilton hotel which is connected directly to the airport. Even though it belongs to the most expensive hotels we have ever booked, the room was very disappointing - tasteless and worn. Definitely the worst Hilton room I have ever stayed in:

I feel that the same is thru for the two Hilton hotels I've used at CPH and LGW. They are(like those delta-planes), lost in the 90s too. Worn down, smelly carpet and a not so nice looking rooms.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Transferring at Fiumicino Airport was not bad in general, but many areas are run down. It would also be a good idea to clean the windows in the gate area:

Indeed, seems like you have travelled back some 20 years in your report.

Anyway, a great and detailed report as usual with lots of good quality pics. Keep em coming  

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:54 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Thanks for another excellent report with excellent pictures !

Hi Lars, thanks a lot for your nice feedback!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Flights on DL look okay; fairly short but nice.

  

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Looks like a lot things and great variety for $7.

Yes, no reason to complain.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Glad you got it back so soon. The ramp people must have off-loaded the bag but someone forgot to drop the bag on the carrousel.

The bag had passed the carousel scanner, so it must have been there. Most likely another passenger took it away. But who knows.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Great and scenic way to get to town !

And very windy...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Very impressive from a spotter's point of view…..

Unfortunately, I couldn't see any more planes in that corner.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Nice with the camera view!

Still not as nice as a tail camera.  

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):

Both meals look very good but I always stay away from pasta since it rarely taste great when heated up like on an airplane.

Exactly my thinking - but it tasted good this time.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Thanks again for this great report and looking forward to the next report!

Thanks again!

Quoting invaders (Reply 14):
Anyway, a great and detailed report as usual with lots of good quality pics. Keep em coming

Hi O, thanks for your comments! Good to hear you liked it.

Quoting invaders (Reply 14):
Great routing for a trip home, however the cabin of those 752-planes to Delta looks like they are lost in the 90s. But maybe thats why they are so popular, who knows?

I don't mind about the old-style cabins - takeoff power is what counts.  

Quoting invaders (Reply 14):
I feel that the same is thru for the two Hilton hotels I've used at CPH and LGW. They are(like those delta-planes), lost in the 90s too. Worn down, smelly carpet and a not so nice looking rooms.

Good to know. Quite disappointing to see what's sold as Hilton in these days. The one at Mexico City Airport isn't nice either.

Quoting invaders (Reply 14):
Indeed, seems like you have travelled back some 20 years in your report.

Somehow, yes!


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:32 pm

Hi PH!

Nice report, I really enjoyed it! Didn't know that DL still perates 757s with such old seats, but I think it looks different, but also nice for a short hop.
About Alitalia I am really impressed, people always told me not fly AZ, but espacially the Long haul sector looked really good, also the catering seems to be quite nice.
Also Boston looks quite good, I had a transfer there 2 years ago, but I sadly did not visit the City, maybe next time.

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:42 pm

Quoting emek96 (Reply 16):
Nice report, I really enjoyed it!

Hi Elias, thank you for leaving a reply! Good to hear from you.

Quoting emek96 (Reply 16):
Didn't know that DL still perates 757s with such old seats, but I think it looks different, but also nice for a short hop.

Still many planes with old cabins in service, but they are fine for such short sectors.

Quoting emek96 (Reply 16):
About Alitalia I am really impressed, people always told me not fly AZ, but espacially the Long haul sector looked really good, also the catering seems to be quite nice.

The product itself is really competitive, but strikes may affect you more often than on other carriers. And in the weeks before our trip, there was a cash crisis...but we weren't seriously concerned because our tickets had been issued by Delta, fortunately.  

Quoting emek96 (Reply 16):
Also Boston looks quite good, I had a transfer there 2 years ago, but I sadly did not visit the City, maybe next time.

The city is worth a visit, but it's very expensive.


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:24 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Good to know! What exactly was so bad?

Hi PH,
It was just extremely old, no maintenance, small room, dust covers everywhere, old style window with noise coming from outside.... And rocket high pricing.
 
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:29 pm

Quoting reifel (Reply 18):
It was just extremely old, no maintenance, small room, dust covers everywhere, old style window with noise coming from outside.... And rocket high pricing.

Hi again! Thanks, that sounds terrible. I'm wondering why this is tolerated by Hilton.


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:47 am

Great to see a report from you, PH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Our plane was former Northwest N552NW, equipped with winglets - one of 133 active frames in the world's largest 757-200 fleet.

As a Silver Medallion frequent traveler with DL out of MSP, I'm used to these old NWA birds. I'd take a 757 over a MD-90 or A320 any day though ...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
During boarding, I was positively surprised that the gate agent added my last name after scanning the boarding pass and thanking me. Several flight attendants provided a friendly welcome on board, speaking Italian.

Really nice touch when this happens!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, it was hard for me to get some rest because flight attendants kept moving in and out, kept opening and closing overhead bins and kept chatting behind their curtain...that was really disturbing, just like numerous passengers who kept passing all the time. Fortunately, it got better after an hour or so.

That's frustrating. When my wife and I flew SAS a few years ago we were near the galley, and were unable to sleep with the constant laughing coming from behind the curtain. I had to finally go and ask if they could be a bit quieter ... after all the entire cabin was dark at this point.

Looks like you had some awesome weather. Boston is a fun city, and great to be there when it's so nice. Alitalia looks to offer a good Y product as well, and food appears to be tasty.

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:27 am

PH, that was a good read of your transatlantic crossing and some Delta hops...

DL looks very fine to me, good to score some 757's, most beautiful narrowbody airliner in the world imho!!
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Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We went to the nearby Delta office, spoke up and the friendly lady told us that someone else may have picked up my suitcase accidentally. "That happens every day", she explained and asked me to file a report. Of course I was really pissed now - but what can you do? The lady was quite optimistic that the case would be brought back on the same day and she promised that it would be delivered straight to our hotel...well, I must admit that I wasn't too optimistic.  

Oops.. "That happens every day"; welcome to America? I think she tried to get a smile on your face by that comment, but it's not suitable for the average passenger I think   Well, I wouldn't be happy at all...

In Indonesia, you cannot leave most airports without staff checking your baggage slip with the tag on your suitcase. It does take an extra 30 seconds to get away from the airport, but basically it is not a bad idea at all. And it creates some jobs again  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I wasn't in good mood on that late afternoon. After walking around at the airport for a while and having dinner, we returned to the hotel where the receptionist surprised me with good news: My suitcase had meanwhile showed up again and had already been delivered!

Well well... , truly great and fast follow up by DL and service how it should be!   

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I ordered orange juice which is actually a rather tasty blood orange juice on Alitalia:

I love the bloodorange juice on AZ! Best orange in the sky

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the flight attendants sprung into action again and served a small breakfast:

Not much, but the cookies are really tasty! JL used to serve those cookies as well  

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:23 pm

Thanks for the report!
I have an upcoming flight on AZ's 332, ORD-FCO. As you pointed out, this route is usually operated by the high-density former Air-One birds. My flight is supposed to be on one of those, but FR24 shows that it has been operated by one of the newer birds on most Sundays recently. I'm flying on a Sunday, so I wonder which one I'll get...
 
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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:09 pm

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
Great to see a report from you, PH!

Hi Matthew, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
As a Silver Medallion frequent traveler with DL out of MSP, I'm used to these old NWA birds. I'd take a 757 over a MD-90 or A320 any day though ...

I can only agree!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
Really nice touch when this happens!

  

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
That's frustrating. When my wife and I flew SAS a few years ago we were near the galley, and were unable to sleep with the constant laughing coming from behind the curtain. I had to finally go and ask if they could be a bit quieter ... after all the entire cabin was dark at this point.

The FAs should know better - good decision to speak up.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
Looks like you had some awesome weather. Boston is a fun city, and great to be there when it's so nice.

It was a bit cool, but still very nice.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 20):
Alitalia looks to offer a good Y product as well, and food appears to be tasty.

  

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
PH, that was a good read of your transatlantic crossing and some Delta hops...

Hi Eric, thanks for your comments! Good to hear from you.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
DL looks very fine to me, good to score some 757's, most beautiful narrowbody airliner in the world imho!!

So true!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
I should visit the US more to fly around a bit

Sure, why not? How about a short visit to LAX in October? The777Man and I will be out for spotting a few times.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
Oops.. "That happens every day"; welcome to America? I think she tried to get a smile on your face by that comment, but it's not suitable for the average passenger I think Well, I wouldn't be happy at all...

It didn't sound negative in that moment. She was trying to turn me more optimistic. Btw - when I returned from my next US trip in March this year, someone took away my suitcase from the belt at MUC. Got it back in the end, but you really have to wonder about some people. I will go into detail in my next series.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
In Indonesia, you cannot leave most airports without staff checking your baggage slip with the tag on your suitcase. It does take an extra 30 seconds to get away from the airport, but basically it is not a bad idea at all. And it creates some jobs again

That would make sense all over the world...but would be rated too expensive Europe and the US.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
Well well... , truly great and fast follow up by DL and service how it should be!

Absolutely!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
I love the bloodorange juice on AZ! Best orange in the sky

It's not as sweet as other juices, that's why I like it.

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 22):
Thanks for the report!

Thanks for commenting, redzeppelin!

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 22):
I have an upcoming flight on AZ's 332, ORD-FCO. As you pointed out, this route is usually operated by the high-density former Air-One birds. My flight is supposed to be on one of those, but FR24 shows that it has been operated by one of the newer birds on most Sundays recently. I'm flying on a Sunday, so I wonder which one I'll get...

It's hard to find out whether these planes have meanwhile been refurbished. At least they were repainted, one of them even wears Skyteam colors. I certainly hope you'll get a new cabin!


PH

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:51 am

Hi Udo,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

In have only been there for spotting by car, never landed/departed. How are the fares?

Fares are higher than FLL due to the proximity of FLL and ops at that airport itself, but PBI is much, much more posh than FLL despite the smaller size of the location. This was in part due to the city of Palm Beach doing whatever it was necessary to lure passengers to the airport. Looks like the project has paid off well:

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Checkin area

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They turned the downstairs pre-TSA/Airport Security area into a faux Floridian "village" housing Florida-themed shops.

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Putting green

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):

That's really disappointing - they could at least offer a proper breakfast or a sandwich plus salad on a 1:30 hrs flight.

Nope--here's the extent of what you'll be getting upfront on the same FLL-ATL flight   :

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:22 pm

Hey great report  

Nice to see AZ and how they are these days. Not too many reports on them recently.

The meals looked better than I expected just a shame about the IFE boxes. Nice pics of Boston, love that city.  

On the second flight you would have thought they would put on the moving map rather than just flickering screens. It would be much appreciated by many Im sure.

It certainly will be interesting to see how their product develops under EY , lets hope its positive.


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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:22 pm

Hi PH,

Great read and pictures, glad I found the time to give it a read.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Most windows in the gate area were fogged up, so both spotting and taking pictures were rather difficult. Here's the best shot of the plane I could get:

- Yikes, not easy to view outside.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We took off after a relatively quick taxi process and passed the Renaissance Airport Hotel which is excellent for spotting:

- Oh yes, spent a few days spotting there a few years back, must find an excuse to stay there again.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I wasn't hungry, but I wanted to buy something out of curiosity. Here's what they had on offer:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I decided to order a snack box for $7:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
It contained a nice mix of items, but I can tell that the American Nutella version cannot match the German one...

- Hmm, nothing looks that healthy there....

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Due to the disappearance of my suitcase, I wasn't in good mood on that late afternoon. After walking around at the airport for a while and having dinner, we returned to the hotel where the receptionist surprised me with good news: My suitcase had meanwhile showed up again and had already been delivered! That's what I call a happy end!

- Result!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
33rd A330 flight

- 33rd, very impressive!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Despite our low fare, we were offered an upgrade to the carrier's lie-flat Magnifica Class ($500 per person) or Classica Plus Premium Economy ($250 per person) on the transatlantic leg

- $500 for JCL, what a steal!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
"Would you like beef or pasta?", a friendly flight attendant asked me during dinner service. I decided to try the former, but this is what I got surprisingly - definitely chicken:

- Looks pretty decent offering, much better looking than other Y class meal's I have seen of late.

Cheers

Mark
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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:59 pm

Hello PH,

Great report as always! Good performance by DL I'd say, still the best domestic carrier amongst the legacies in the US in my book. AZ seems pretty decent as well too, they get same bashing here at A.net but they them seem on par with other European airlines. Nice shots of Boston as well, looks like you picked a great season to visit!
 
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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:51 pm

Hi PH!

Another great report you made here with many nice pictures!
Looks like you had 2 standard flights on DL, always nice to catch some 757s on such short hops. DL is always my preferred carrier when flying domestic in the US  
Alitalia actually looks better than I expected. Both meals look quite tasty and the crew don't sound too bad either! That breakfast looks like a joke though.
You made some very beautiful pictures of Boston, I'm a huge fan myself. Boston is definitely one of my favorite US cities  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
and a very detailed fleet information page

No mistakes there  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
The MD-90 looks really cool from behind, doesn't it?

Very sexy  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
but I can tell that the American Nutella version cannot match the German one...

That's for sure!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Then we went to the Hilton hotel which is connected directly to the airport. Even though it belongs to the most expensive hotels we have ever booked, the room was very disappointing - tasteless and worn.

I find many Hiltons I have visited to be below par, especially considering the premium price you pay for it!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
After receiving our boarding passes, we went back to a staircase in the connecting passage between Terminals B and C. The location is great for spotting - hardly anybody needs to pass there, so you can use binoculars without worries

Didn't know of that place, will keep it in mind!

Thanks as always for sharing!

cheers,

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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:58 pm

Hey PH. I think this one slipped under the radar, glad to have caught it! Alitalia has been sending the gorgeous Sky Team liveried aircraft to YYZ and it's always a pleasure to see it!

Alitalia seems good, live camera views, good food, IFE, what more can one want in Y! Now that curtained off area in the middle of the aircraft makes more sense than in the window seats. This closed off area matches the galleys in the middle of the aircraft and does not suddenly break the harmony within the cabin. Sorry to hear that the crews were chatty.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had the first ginger ale of the day:

Cheers!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
American Nutella version cannot match the German one...

PH approved  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Lovely colors, lovely scenery:

The fall colours are always the best! I wonder if the Japanese Charter flights will be making their appearance this year with plane loads of tourist, going to photograph the fall colours.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Great views of Boston shortly after liftoff:

Magnificent views.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
definitely worth a picture:

Ah and so we get to see more and more of PH on this series of reports!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Alitalia had left a good impression on a long-haul journey in 2008 and I also rate this recent journey positively. Flight attendants and ground staff members were friendly and helpful, catering was decent (apart from the breakfast) and entertainment options were satisfying. However, seating comfort was not sufficient on the long-haul sector and I wouldn't want to spend 10 hours or more in such a seat. Let's wait and see how Alitalia's product will change under assistance of Etihad Airways.

I am sure they will be in good hands with EY!! When do you plan to fly Etihad Airways?
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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:27 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Must be disgusting for many Italians who are used to good coffee. AZ still had a good one in 2008.

Hope for them it's only temporary.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Yes, too bad it doesn't exist everywhere around the globe. Believe it nor not, on another trip in March this year it happened again. Someone took my suitcase at MUC and left. I got it back in the end, but it was still very annoying. Details to follow in part II of my new series.

Jeez you are unlucky, i've noticed that now people who carry suitcase with a generic color, put a patterned ribbon or fabric to recognize it. Is the series where you flew first class ?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Yes, there are enough people who rate binoculars suspicious. I have experienced that several times since 9/11.

How silly, why can't you watch metalic birds peacefully  ???

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Row 32 should still be fine.

Thanks for the further precision !
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RE: Delta 757 Hops, Beautiful Boston & Alitalia A330

Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:56 am

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 24):
Fares are higher than FLL due to the proximity of FLL and ops at that airport itself, but PBI is much, much more posh than FLL despite the smaller size of the location. This was in part due to the city of Palm Beach doing whatever it was necessary to lure passengers to the airport. Looks like the project has paid off well:

Hi Colby, thanks for the additional pieces of information and the pictures. PBI looks great, should fly there one day.

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 24):
Nope--here's the extent of what you'll be getting upfront on the same FLL-ATL flight

Really disappointing!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 25):
Hey great report

Hi Philip, thanks for your comments!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 25):
Nice to see AZ and how they are these days. Not too many reports on them recently.

Yes, despite the fact that many people used their error fares.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 25):
Nice pics of Boston, love that city.

Thanks!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 25):
On the second flight you would have thought they would put on the moving map rather than just flickering screens. It would be much appreciated by many Im sure.

Absolutely, yes.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 25):
It certainly will be interesting to see how their product develops under EY , lets hope its positive.

That will be interesting. But I'm skeptical of the continuing financial support for loss-making carriers.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 26):
Great read and pictures, glad I found the time to give it a read.

Hi Mark, thanks a lot, good to hear from you!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 26):
Oh yes, spent a few days spotting there a few years back, must find an excuse to stay there again.

I'm sure you will!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 26):
Hmm, nothing looks that healthy there....

No. But what did you expect?  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 26):

- 33rd, very impressive!

Yes, had the A330 many times. Certainly one of my favorites.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 26):
- $500 for JCL, what a steal!

The offer wasn't bad, that's true.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 26):
- Looks pretty decent offering, much better looking than other Y class meal's I have seen of late.

I have never seen a bad AZ meal.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 27):
Great report as always!

Thank you, Robert!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 27):
Good performance by DL I'd say, still the best domestic carrier amongst the legacies in the US in my book.

It certainly belongs to the best over there.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 27):
AZ seems pretty decent as well too, they get same bashing here at A.net but they them seem on par with other European airlines.

As long as you make it into the plane without any strikes, AZ is indeed fine. Our tickets had been issued by DL, so we were on the safe side.  

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 27):
Nice shots of Boston as well, looks like you picked a great season to visit!

Yes, would like to go there again to see more of New England.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
Another great report you made here with many nice pictures!

Hi Brendan, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
Looks like you had 2 standard flights on DL, always nice to catch some 757s on such short hops.

  

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
Alitalia actually looks better than I expected. Both meals look quite tasty and the crew don't sound too bad either! That breakfast looks like a joke though.

AZ was indeed better than expected.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
You made some very beautiful pictures of Boston, I'm a huge fan myself. Boston is definitely one of my favorite US cities

I definitely want to go there again.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
No mistakes there

Not this time...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
Very sexy

  

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
I find many Hiltons I have visited to be below par, especially considering the premium price you pay for it!

Times have changed, unfortunately. In former times, you could rely on Hilton quality.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
Hey PH. I think this one slipped under the radar, glad to have caught it!

Hi flightsimboy, good to hear from you! I'm glad you found the report.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
Alitalia has been sending the gorgeous Sky Team liveried aircraft to YYZ and it's always a pleasure to see it!

I can only agree.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
Alitalia seems good, live camera views, good food, IFE, what more can one want in Y!

Better seating comfort!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):

Cheers!!
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
PH approved
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
The fall colours are always the best!

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
Magnificent views.

Yes, pure luck it was.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
Ah and so we get to see more and more of PH on this series of reports!

Don't expect to see more...  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
I am sure they will be in good hands with EY!! When do you plan to fly Etihad Airways?

I flew EY back in 2005 when it was still small and widely unknown. Got the first factory fresh A332 on the FRA-AUH-FRA sectors.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 30):
Hope for them it's only temporary.

Hi again, Léonard. That's what I hope, too.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 30):
Jeez you are unlucky, i've noticed that now people who carry suitcase with a generic color, put a patterned ribbon or fabric to recognize it. Is the series where you flew first class ?

I have learned my lesson. Yes, it happened after returning from the US.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 30):
How silly, why can't you watch metalic birds peacefully

Good question...


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