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Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:34 pm




Previous part of this trips’ trip report here: Aloha! The United Way - B777-200 and B737-900


Thanks to gcmaps, our criss-cross trip route
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This part of the Trip report
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Stats (Since 2010, when I‘ve been maintaining my flight reports):

First time on Delta.
3rd and 4th time on B767-300


Delta DL 612: HNL - LAX
Flight Reg: N156DL ; Ex Gulf Air - A4O-GR, delivered to DL on Jul 97; Built 1991
Boeing B767-300
Seat 17D
Departure time 12:04 (Actual 12:25)
Arrival 20:39 (Actual 20:25)
26 July 2014



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Background and Booking process

After 3 days in Honolulu, it was now time to leave to the Big Apple. We were supposed to fly on the direct HA service to JFK, but the flight was full. Hence had to book ourselves on the DL flight to JFK via LAX. Nevertheless, a new airline that I could try.

After the tickets were booked, we could preselect seats for the LAXJFK sector but not HNLLAX sector, as the flight seemed full, so would be taking a chance during check in.

Looking forward to the 767 as the seat configuration looks great in economy.

Once again Delta’s website was very easy to navigate and the website looks like a lot of thought had gone into designing the website.

Realised that there was a charge for check in baggage’s that we will have to pay either at the counter or during online check in. AAArrgh!

I just don’t get this concept – in the US, all flag carriers charge for check in baggage, whereas LCC (SouthWest, JetBlue) let us check in one baggage for free. What is going on here? Nevertheless, since it is my first time on a Delta flight, looking forward to the flight to New York.

Day before flight – Online check in

Checked in online the previous evening using mobile check in facilities and it worked a charm. Easy and efficient, and was checked in in less than 10 minutes. Both flight seemed full as we were unable to change seats, in the end settled for what we got.

Day of Flight

On the day of the flight the journey our hotel to the airport was pain free and was at the terminal within half and hour.

As soon as you enter the terminal the bright orange Muriel on the walls hit you. Reminds you that you are in Hawaii. Speaking to the friendly check in assistant, she confirms that the Muriel depicted lava from the volcanoes. Fantastic.

Lava theme at HNL
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Check in was smooth and quick. Security took around 15 min. And as normal, I was chosen for a ‘Random’ search, Again.  

Once airside, Honolulu airport is a completely different place to be. Very airy, and superb for those close up aircraft pictures.

A Host of Korean, JAL’s amongst Delta’s and Hawaiian.

Plane spotting at HNLAS B737-900, UA, DL and JAL
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AS – Proudly all Boeing
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Didn’t know that Korean had such a major presence at HNL. Is it so, or did any of their aircrafts go tech?
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Beautiful HA tailfins – B767-300 in the foreground
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Japan Airlines triple
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Stopped by a bar to grab a drink. Awesome bloody Mary.

Boarding was slightly delayed which subsequently delayed our flight by around 20 minutes. However, the captain announced that it would be a smooth ride into LAX today and we should be able to make it on time.

Before boarding I checked the flight reg. and noticed it was a 23 year old aircraft, but upon boarding, it didn’t show its age at all. Very clean, neat, and crisp – really well maintained, seems to be.

Our ride to LAXDL N156DL – B767-300 – The oldest aircraft I’ve flown in – 22 years and 7 months at the time of flying it
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Boarding gate at HNL
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We were in the middle row and we settled well into our seats.

First impression of Delta was that they seemed to have very well maintained aircrafts, akin to United. The 767 is definitely one of the best Y cabins around. Only one slight drawback would perhaps be the lack of overhead storage space due to small size of the overhead bins. On the flip side, this makes the cabin looks very airy and spacious.

On board DL612 to LAX – B767-300
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View of the cabin – not too shabby for a 22 year old aircraft.
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Would like to comment on the safety video of DL – Smart and a perfect mix of being serious and some fun bits added in. Not As good as Ait New Zealand, but definitely up there as one of the better and more interesting safety videos.
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Speaking to the FA, he reckoned that the refurbishment happened a couple of years ago.

AVOD was fantastic. Love the touch screen controls for lights, FA, etc.

AVOD was free if you had your own headphones, or else it’s a $4 charge for it. Great selection of movies, TV and music (they even had Tiesto, being a house fan, I was quietly surprised)
Free snacks (peanuts, pretzels) and soft drinks. Alcohol and hot food charged for. Just stuck to snacks on this flight.

Watched Wadjda. Had heard about it and it was such a great movie. Very well made and struck a chord with me, having spent my child hood in Kuwait (movie was based in Saudi Arabia).

Fantastic AVOD on DL – PIP available! First time I see this on board.
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Full marks to the touch screen AVOD on DL. Everything just worked as it should, perfectly well, very responsive unit.
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Thoroughly enjoyed this movie on board. Struck a chord with me as I’ve been living very close to Saudi, for the best part of 18 years of my childhood. Such a well-made movie.
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Another reason why I loved the AVOD on DL. I usually never bother with listening to the music on board, but Tiesto! Incredible! One of the biggest fan of EDM and having Tiesto on board just made my evening.
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Seats – wide, spacious. Nothing like a 2-3-2 on Y, on the 767. Looking forward to the LAX-JFK sector too.

FA – In my opinion, not as good as United, but definitely passable. Numerous drinks (water) rounds. Did their job well, but nothing over it. On the whole very good, but they slightly lacked the edge of having a personal touch, that United FA demonstrated. This could be a one off either ways, but overall both the set of crews were very good.

The toilets on the 767 is great too. Very spacious, and definitely one of the largest sizes I’ve seen on board.

F&B on board
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The rest of the flight was uneventful in the nicest possible way. Landed on time at a busy LAX and we were parked by United’s terminal (T6) as T5 seemed to be full.


Almost back to LAX
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Delta DL 1262 : LAX - JFK
Flight Reg: N194DN ; delivered Sep 1997
Boeing B767-300
Seat 25G
Departure time 22:30 (Actual 23:10)
Arrival 06:50 (Actual 07:05)
26 July 2014


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Back in LAX – back to mass departures; 6 screens and counting!
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Delta terminal was chok-a-clock hence needed to park in United’s terminal (T5) and we had to walk to Delta (T6) four connection to JFK
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Made our way into T5 (delta) and settled in to have dinner at one of the numerous dinners at the terminal.

Flight seemed to be on time and boarding commenced as scheduled.

Boarding gate at T6
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Slick! Even got a USB Charger. I later realised its prevalent in most of the US airports.
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Our ride to JFKDL N194DN – Another B767-300
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Once on board, it was apparent that this 767 had a slightly different configuration.

The flight from HNL to LAX, had a common economy class which also included economy plus.
Whereas on DL 1262, it had a separate economy plus section which meant lesser seats in total, perhaps their trans-con configuration.

On-board DL1262 to JFKDL B767-300
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Few noticeable differences between the two sectors:

1. Wi-Fi available in 1262. Not in 612.

2. Headsets free on 1262. But not 612. Strange.

3. All the movies were not free on this flight compared to 612. So that's the catch. But they still did have quite a few complementary movies, just not the new releases.

F&B on board DL 1262
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This time around we got the two seats by the window. This was our night time ‘Catch some sleep’ flight and this flight helped us do exactly that. Slept through the entire flight and the next thing I knew, we were descending and 20 minutes away from JFK.

Once again a great service from Delta. Not much more I can comment on this flight except that it was Comfortable, turbulent free, good interior temperature and on the whole a hassle free flight.

Verdict

First time on Delta and really enjoyed it.

Positives for me were the 767’s, immaculate condition of the aircrafts, spacious toilets, great seats, one of the most modern AVOD systems, above average crew – some of the big positives.

On the flip side – Payment for baggage’s not available during ticket booking... WHY? Why not enable the passengers to pay upon booking ticket, would that classify their service as a LCC? Could also improve on their food offering.

To end on a positive, if given a chance, I would definitely fly Delta again.

New York, New York
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….Still to come jetBlue service from BUF to LAS via BOS… Stay tuned…until then, safe and happy flying, Adios.!

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Plane spotting at JFK.
El-Al B747-400. Have they replaced the SP on this route?
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AI – B777-300 VT-ALU in the background
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JFK T5
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RE: Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:09 pm

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):

Didn’t know that Korean had such a major presence at HNL. Is it so, or did any of their aircrafts go tech?

Normally 3 flights a day. 2 to ICN and one to NRT. Hawaii has grown as a tourist destination for people from Korea. The change in the requirements for tourist visas helped grow the market.

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):

On the flip side – Payment for baggage’s not available during ticket booking... WHY? Why not enable the passengers to pay upon booking ticket, would that classify their service as a LCC? Could also improve on their food offering.

The definition of LCC in the United States has changed over the past 10 years and is different than in Europe. I would say that there are only 3 real low cost carriers (sometimes referred to as ULCC) in the United States: Allegiant, Spirit and Frontier. The rest are either regional or international airlines. Virgin America, Alaska, JetBlue and Southwest are not really that low cost. Their fares are not necessarily lower than the larger airlines. Each has some unique offerings such as Southwest not having change fees and lower baggage fees, but their tickets cannot always be booked through travel agents, no seat assignments and no first class. Alaska and Virgin are almost are very similar to the large 3 airlines. In general, the 3 international network airlines have dropped their fares and increased their fees so that they compete evenly on cost with the smaller regional airlines. I would not really classify any of them an LCC any more. The concept has changed from what it was in the 1990s when Southwest exploded.
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RE: Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:35 pm

Cool report, thanks! I haven't had a chance to try DL's refurbished 767, but they look really great. I flew this route with their intl. config 757 (ex TWA) and 767 seems more comfortable overall. Unfortunately, DL is the only airline flying 767s transcons now, even though AA's new 321 are very nice too and UA PS service is not bad either

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):
El-Al B747-400. Have they replaced the SP on this route

LY never had SPs (are you mixing them up with IR?) ... those 744s have been flying to JFK since LY received them in 1994.
 
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RE: Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:18 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 1):
Normally 3 flights a day.

Thanks for the info Roseflyer. nevertheless, i am still surprised. I would've thought that HA would have wanted to also have a share of the pie, or do they already fly that route?

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 1):
The definition of LCC in the United States has

Fantastic! didn't know that. Things starting to make more sense now. I kept comparing them with the EU LCC's and was completely confused while i was in the US.

Quoting ilyag (Reply 2):
Cool report, thanks

Pleasure.

Quoting ilyag (Reply 2):
LY never had SPs

D'Oh! Off course. i was thinking of IR. At least i got one thing right - my user name (newbief1yer), I proved it.  
 
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RE: Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:17 pm

Thanks for the report!

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):
After the tickets were booked, we could preselect seats for the LAXJFK sector but not HNLLAX sector, as the flight seemed full, so would be taking a chance during check in.

DL holds some preferred seats for elite FFs, and they will appear occupied to others during seat selection. This is probably what happened--the flight wasn't full, it just looked that way.

Quoting newbief1yer (Thread starter):
Only one slight drawback would perhaps be the lack of overhead storage space due to small size of the overhead bins.

And you even got a refurbished cabin with larger bins. The old 767 bins were even more limited.
 
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RE: Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:58 pm

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 4):
DL holds some preferred seats for elite FFs, and they will appear occupied to others during seat selection

Ah, Yes. I thought about this. I guess it is similar with UA too.

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 4):
And you even got a refurbished cabin with larger bins. The old 767 bins were even more limited

It was just the middle row bins that were small. I cant imagine how much smaller it could've been, with the cabin bags quite large these days.
 
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RE: Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:56 pm

Hi !

Another nice report with nice pictures !

DL looks nice and the 767 is hard to beat when it comes to avoid bad seats! Only on middle seat per row and still a fairly roomy cabin.

Service looks okay and good that you were able to get some sleep on the flight to JFK.

Looking forward to your next report!

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RE: Mahalo Hawaii, Hello NYC - DL B767-300

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:07 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
Hi !
Another nice report with nice pictures !

Thanks The777Man. Just trying to learn from the expert  

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